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TSChesterina
post Jan 12 2020, 05:57 PM, updated 6y ago

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Hi,

I'm planning to run an online e-commerce platform to sell alcoholic beverages, with home delivery. My products will be canned / bottled. No hard liquor, mostly beer and high quality branded native brews e.g. Sarawakian tuak, toddy etc.

I won't have a physical location for the time being, but I'm based in Selangor. That means, my business will run from my residential address (which I own) i.e. Admin, packaging etc. but no commercial consumption.

These are my questions:

1. How do I go about applying for a liquor license in the case of an online e-commerce site w/o physical store in Selangor? How much would it cost?

2. Does the trading of native alcoholic beverages e.g. tuak / toddy fall under the same license or no license is required at all?

3. Will there be any issues with running the business (strictly administrative) from my private residence?

Appreciate the help! notworthy.gif

Edit: added more context.

This post has been edited by Chesterina: Jan 12 2020, 10:43 PM
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post Jan 12 2020, 06:01 PM

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some old threads on this almost similar topic....

https://www.google.com/search?q=selling+alc...iw=1920&bih=967

hope you can get some info from there while waiting for value added info and direct answers....
TSChesterina
post Jan 12 2020, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 12 2020, 06:01 PM)
some old threads on this almost similar topic....

https://www.google.com/search?q=selling+alc...iw=1920&bih=967

hope you can get some info from there while waiting for value added info and direct answers....
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Thanks for the link MUM. Yup, i've read up on those, but i didn't quote get some detailed answers from them i.e. where exactly to apply, the process, price etc. And nobody has really brought up the sale of native brews, which seem to me to be a grey area haha. Would be great to get some updated info as well in a fresh thread. Thanks all the same! thumbsup.gif

This post has been edited by Chesterina: Jan 12 2020, 06:06 PM
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post Jan 12 2020, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(Chesterina @ Jan 12 2020, 06:04 PM)
Thanks for the link MUM. Yup, i've read up on those, but i didn't quote get some detailed answers from them i.e. where exactly to apply, the process, price etc. And nobody has really brought up the sale of native brews, which seem to me to be a grey area haha. Would be great to get some updated info as well in a fresh thread. Thanks all the same!  thumbsup.gif
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hmm.gif does these native brews contains alcohol?
what is the shelve life of this native brews like toddy under Malaysia weather and normal delivery environment?

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TSChesterina
post Jan 12 2020, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 12 2020, 06:08 PM)
hmm.gif does these native brews contains alcohol?
what is the shelve life of this native brews like toddy under Malaysia weather and normal delivery environment?
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Yup, they do, usually around 12 - 16% abv. Occasionally there are stronger variants such as Langkau from Sarawak that is comparable to Vodka.

Shelve life is similar to wine i.e. indefinite. I have tasted a 10+ year old bottle of Tuak and it tastes very smooth, and has a honey aftertaste.
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post Jan 12 2020, 06:26 PM

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Go find a runner specialize in applying it.

Too much hassle for one self to apply (talking from experience for business with physical store)
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post Jan 12 2020, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(ed0gawa @ Jan 12 2020, 06:26 PM)
Go find a runner specialize in applying it.

Too much hassle for one self to apply (talking from experience for business with physical store)
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Thanks for the tip! Where do i start looking for these runners? Also roughly how much would it cost?

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post Jan 12 2020, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(ed0gawa @ Jan 12 2020, 06:26 PM)
Go find a runner specialize in applying it.

Too much hassle for one self to apply (talking from experience for business with physical store)
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but I think he did mentioned that he does not want to have a physical store selling alcohol.

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post Jan 12 2020, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(Chesterina @ Jan 12 2020, 06:04 PM)
Thanks for the link MUM. Yup, i've read up on those, but i didn't quote get some detailed answers from them i.e. where exactly to apply, the process, price etc. And nobody has really brought up the sale of native brews, which seem to me to be a grey area haha. Would be great to get some updated info as well in a fresh thread. Thanks all the same!  thumbsup.gif
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on one of the thread in the link posted by MUM, there is a forummer mentioning
by forummer Mac Man @ LYF
QUOTE( @ Aug 25 2012, 01:02 AM)
Malaysian law requires alcohol retailers to be licensed to sell draught alcohol or serve any alcohol at all, though a license is not required to sell canned or bottled beer. Many cafes do not maintain a license, opting to provide a bottle opener so that the bottled beer they sell can be consumed on-premises. The provision of the bottle opener is technically illegal because the license is required to serve beer at the establishment. Establishments caught ignoring the law are assessed a fine.

Unlicensed liquor sales are illegal under Malaysia's 1976 Excise Act (Section 32[1] and 33[1]), but it's still common. Almost all "samsu," a potent spirit that's distilled locally, is sold illegally, either at unlicensed corner stores or from individuals who sell it from their homes. The act also requires that the license must specify in writing the precise address where the bearer is allowed to retail the alcohol.
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there is also a questions of how do you ensure/control that you do not sell to Muslim and those underage?
does e commerce platform like Shopee or lazada has T&C that prohibits these items?
if you want , I think you will have to sell on your own website....
I googled and saw quite a lot of websites selling bottled and canned alcohol products in Malaysia.
just wondering how do they ensure/control that they do not sell to Muslim and those underage?
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post Jan 12 2020, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 12 2020, 06:42 PM)
on one of the thread in the link posted by MUM, there is a forummer mentioning
by forummer Mac Man @ LYF
there is also a questions of how do you ensure/control that you do not sell to Muslim and those underage?
does e commerce platform like Shopee or lazada has T&C that prohibits these items?
if you want , I think you will have to sell on your own website....
I googled and saw quite a lot of websites selling bottled and canned alcohol products in Malaysia.
just wondering  how do they ensure/control that they do not sell to Muslim and those underage?
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Thanks for pointing that out yklooi, it is an enlightening answer especially about canned / bottled beer. Though, i do wish there were more details regarding how exactly i can go about obtaining a license haha.

Yes, i do have my own e-commerce website to sell the products. As for your question, I believe you would need to confirm that you are of age and non-muslim on these websites before you are able to browse / purchase the products. They will also direct you to the terms & conditions mentioning the same. In any case, this is the lowest requirements for retailers and the onus is in the end of the day on the buyer.
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post Jan 12 2020, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(Chesterina @ Jan 12 2020, 06:49 PM)
Thanks for pointing that out yklooi, it is an enlightening answer especially about canned / bottled beer. Though, i do wish there were more details regarding how exactly i can go about obtaining a license haha.

Yes, i do have my own e-commerce website to sell the products. As for your question, I believe you would need to confirm that you are of age and non-muslim on these websites before you are able to browse / purchase the products. They will also direct you to the terms & conditions mentioning the same. In any case, this is the lowest requirements for retailers and the onus is in the end of the day on the buyer.
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try this?
Pemohonan lesen untuk menjual liqur yang memabukkan.
https://elesen.dbkl.gov.my/elesennew/Forms/...esen_Liquor.pdf
from
https://elesen.dbkl.gov.my/elesennew/Information.aspx?c=3
from main page
Licence Application
http://www.dbkl.gov.my/index.php?option=co...mid=272&lang=en

or these too...

Permohonan Lesen Minuman Keras
https://www.selangor.gov.my/petaling.php/pages/view/875


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post Jan 12 2020, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 12 2020, 07:01 PM)
Thanks! I think i will follow up with MPSJ for further inquiry as well. On that note, since i don't have a physical retail outlet, i wonder if it's an issue to state the business address as my own residential address? hmm hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Chesterina @ Jan 12 2020, 09:30 PM)
Thanks! I think i will follow up with MPSJ for further inquiry as well. On that note, since i don't have a physical retail outlet, i wonder if it's an issue to state the business address as my own residential address? hmm  hmm.gif
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you must sure have a physicals place to conduct most of your business right?
place to do the admin, packaging, storing and ship out of goods, right?
maybe can use that?
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post Jan 12 2020, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 12 2020, 09:44 PM)
you must sure have a physicals place to conduct most of your business right?
place to do the admin, packaging, storing and ship out of goods, right?
maybe can use that?
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I don't own or rent any other physical space other than my home. would that be a problem?
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post Jan 12 2020, 10:11 PM

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your home delivery is grab delivery kind ?
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post Jan 12 2020, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(Juan86 @ Jan 12 2020, 10:11 PM)
your home delivery is grab delivery kind ?
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Planning to do something like that, perhaps Lalamove or similar la. To be clear, I own my residential address. Am wondering if it'll be a problem if that is also where I run my business e.g. Admin, packing etc. But strictly no consumption on the premises other than own.
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post Jan 12 2020, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(Chesterina @ Jan 12 2020, 09:55 PM)
I don't own or rent any other physical space other than my home. would that be a problem?
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is there is where you conduct your business?
is there is where the authority can visit you to find out more about your business, the accounting and licensing issues if needed?
if yes, then shouldn't that be a business address?
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post Jan 12 2020, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 12 2020, 11:00 PM)
is there is where you conduct your business?
is there is where the authority can visit you to find out more about your business, the accounting and licensing issues if needed?
if yes, then shouldn't that be a business address?
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Yes, I'm very clear of that. All I'm asking is, would there be an issue if that is the case? A residential property, where I also conduct my online business i.e. admin, packaging, but no consumption, except for own.

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post Jan 12 2020, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(Chesterina @ Jan 12 2020, 11:02 PM)
Yes, I'm very clear of that. All I'm asking is, would there be an issue if that is the case? A residential property, where I also conduct my online business i.e. admin, packaging, but no consumption, except for own.
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I have noticed vans, trucks with business addresses printed on the side of the doors which is residential address.

I think should be alright, unless the neighbor compliant about the inconveniences cause by your business activities.
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post Jun 17 2020, 08:52 PM

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Hi all,

Do I need a license to sell local homemade rice wines online? Have been trying to find out, but no information on it.
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post Jun 17 2020, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(drakes1 @ Jun 17 2020, 08:52 PM)
Hi all,

Do I need a license to sell local homemade rice wines online? Have been trying to find out, but no information on it.
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looks like a YES...

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...anding-markets/


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post Mar 18 2021, 10:52 PM

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Hi all,

Do I need a license to sell local homemade cocktails online?
If yes then is there anyone can share which respective department to reach out to?

Thanks in advance
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post Mar 18 2021, 11:12 PM

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There are regulations for how alcohol is made and what it contains
https://asklegal.my/p/illegal-alcohol-methanol-malaysian-law

 

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