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TSshinjo
post Jan 7 2020, 12:05 PM, updated 6y ago

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Well, my stories is about working in a Korean company is totally depressing & stressful.

I tot i found a jewel getting into a korean company, big company... but later on to find out that it is another chapter of horror movie.

At first, everything seems fine, Korean boss seem friendly, slowly to learn up from scratch, office environment is small & clean. Many perks (snacks, coffee machine, supplements, etc) and each lunch makan good good Boss belanja.

But the nightmare is , actually each day you are living a testing trial period. monitor you without saying. I'm a proactive salesperson, that's what i should do as a sales.

On the 1st day of new year work, come back office and received a sudden termination. Saying i'm not suit to his korean culture style working. Fine.....
but when explaining the rather unreasonable answer to me, I'm shocked on how different our working style is...

1) Cannot late a single day.... not 10 mins( even with given notice earlier due to unusual heavy traffic)
2) Cannot yawn and feeling sleepy during work. (tiu, looking at monitor all day squeezing brain not lethargic?? , besides, not that i directly sleep !!)
3) Priority of consent is important, ALWAYS DO GET consent/ approval before doing your things. Even if it is a new year greeting emails to customers.
4) Even in chatroom, there is a case where i go out take things from customer, on the way back office & my car aircon spoil no gas, i just needed 10 mins to stop by workshop to refill gas.. i notify it and take pics send in groupchat, BUT this is an offence... Said why does not consult him 1st to get approval before refill. Not to simply notify and think it is ok.
5) the manners in treating him like a very big boss is similar in Japan.. hierarchy seniority is very important in korean culture. the respect you must show to them is very important. the salute and so on...
6) they don't trust ppl easily, always keep u in the dark... as a sales, but not expecting me go out market visit and expect me can get all info sitting in my chair, funny...

this is simply toooo micromanage. Hire me in such high salary to do clerical job meh? I'm confuse....

you all encounter this kind of funny behaviors Korean company / korean boss culture?? Is it that hard to deal with??

This post has been edited by shinjo: Jan 7 2020, 09:53 PM
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post Jan 7 2020, 12:07 PM

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Your company got cute korean babes or not?
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post Jan 7 2020, 12:08 PM

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Sorry even in local Chinaman company also like this..

Top 3 biggest in equity size
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post Jan 7 2020, 12:09 PM

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Tldr

1) boss seems nice
2) cum back from holiday after new years holiday got terminate
3) boss is scumbag now
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post Jan 7 2020, 12:09 PM

Meh..... (TM)
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post Jan 7 2020, 12:09 PM

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Yep can confirm.

Thats why angmo is the best employer.
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post Jan 7 2020, 12:10 PM

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so u terminated right? cari kerja baru tahun baru la
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Jan 7 2020, 12:07 PM)
Your company got cute korean babes or not?
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I want to ask also. Recently read a lot of ahem ahen manhwa.
Are those korean babes like to drink air haram and then easily get drunk?
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post Jan 7 2020, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(shinjo @ Jan 7 2020, 12:05 PM)
Well, my stories is about working in a Korean company is totally depressing & stressful.

I tot i found a jewel getting into a korean company, big company... but later on to find out that it is another chapter of horror movie.

At first, everything seems fine, Korean boss seem friendly, slowly to learn up from scratch, office environment is small & clean. Many perks (snacks, coffee machine, supplements, etc) and each lunch makan good good Boss belanja.

But the nightmare is , actually each day you are living a testing trial period. monitor you without saying. I'm a proactive salesperson, that's what i should do as a sales.

On the 1st day of new year work, come back office and received a sudden termination. Saying i'm not suit to his korean culture style working. Fine.....
but when explaining the rather unreasonable answer to me, I'm shocked on how different our working style is...

1) Cannot late a single day.... not 10 mins( even with given notice earlier due to unusual heavy traffic)
2) Cannot yawn and feeling sleepy during work. (tiu, looking at monitor all day squeezing brain not lethargic?? , besides, not that i directly sleep !!)
3) Priority of consent is important, ALWAYS DO GET consent/ approval before doing your things. Even if it is a new year greeting emails to customers.
4) Even in chatroom, there is a case where i go out take things from customer, on the way back office & my car aircon spoil no gas, i just needed 10 mins to stop by workshop to refill gas.. i notify it and take pics send in groupchat, BUT this is an offence... Said why does not consult him 1st to get approval before refill. Not to simply notify and think it is ok.
5) the manners in treating him like a very big boss is similar in Japan.. hierarchy seniority is very important in korean culture. the respect you must show to them is very important. the salute and so on...
6) they don't trust ppl easily, always keep u in the dark... as a sales, but not expecting me go out market visit and expect me can get all info sitting in my chair, funny...

this is simply toooo micromanage. Hire me in such high salary to do clerical job meh? I'm confuse....

you all encounter this kind of funny behaviors Korean company / korean boss culture??  Is it that hard to deal with??
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if you're looking for serious and sincere comments, i suggest you move this to serious /k..
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QUOTE(cococonutseller @ Jan 7 2020, 12:08 PM)
Sorry even in local Chinaman company also like this..

Top 3 biggest in equity size
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The bank name start with P?
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Tldr 2

1) ts go repair kereta during work hours
2) boss beh song and terminate ts

Conclusion: beli lah kereta Proton aircond number 1 in the world
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that's not micromanage, they simply doesn't like you.
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post Jan 7 2020, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jan 7 2020, 12:09 PM)
Tldr

1) boss seems nice
2) cum back from holiday after new years holiday got terminate
3) boss is scumbag now
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4) I didn't know cannot sleep during work
5) I didn't know being late for work is bad
6) I didn't know taking breaks during working hours is bad

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post Jan 7 2020, 12:13 PM

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diu... u never watch any korea movie/drama? watch some before u go there

seniority is their culture, the high up do shit, u down there also cannot say anything or else prepare to get expel only, in that case u actually better monitor everywhere and fit in lol... dont bring in malaysia style there la.. mempersiasuikan malaysian haha
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post Jan 7 2020, 12:14 PM

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This means most Koreans are ular at work
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post Jan 7 2020, 12:14 PM

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Well, thats how it should be. Company pay you for you time, but you steal their time to do your stuff. Kalau dalam islam, kamu tiada konsep amanah. Want to do personal stuff, do it in your personal time. Refill gas after work cant?

People no ask you greet customer, why would you that? Be professional
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jan 7 2020, 12:11 PM)
Tldr 2

1) ts go repair kereta during work hours
2) boss beh song and terminate ts

Conclusion: beli lah kereta Proton aircond number 1 in the world
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kennot argue with this conclusion.
for all the wrong they did, this was one right thing they did that no one can take away from them laugh.gif
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post Jan 7 2020, 12:16 PM

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Your employer is just making excuses to terminate you... this is not micromanage
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post Jan 7 2020, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(shinjo @ Jan 7 2020, 12:05 PM)
Well, my stories is about working in a Korean company is totally depressing & stressful.

I tot i found a jewel getting into a korean company, big company... but later on to find out that it is another chapter of horror movie.

At first, everything seems fine, Korean boss seem friendly, slowly to learn up from scratch, office environment is small & clean. Many perks (snacks, coffee machine, supplements, etc) and each lunch makan good good Boss belanja.

But the nightmare is , actually each day you are living a testing trial period. monitor you without saying. I'm a proactive salesperson, that's what i should do as a sales.

On the 1st day of new year work, come back office and received a sudden termination. Saying i'm not suit to his korean culture style working. Fine.....
but when explaining the rather unreasonable answer to me, I'm shocked on how different our working style is...

1) Cannot late a single day.... not 10 mins( even with given notice earlier due to unusual heavy traffic)
2) Cannot yawn and feeling sleepy during work. (tiu, looking at monitor all day squeezing brain not lethargic?? , besides, not that i directly sleep !!)
3) Priority of consent is important, ALWAYS DO GET consent/ approval before doing your things. Even if it is a new year greeting emails to customers.
4) Even in chatroom, there is a case where i go out take things from customer, on the way back office & my car aircon spoil no gas, i just needed 10 mins to stop by workshop to refill gas.. i notify it and take pics send in groupchat, BUT this is an offence... Said why does not consult him 1st to get approval before refill. Not to simply notify and think it is ok.
5) the manners in treating him like a very big boss is similar in Japan.. hierarchy seniority is very important in korean culture. the respect you must show to them is very important. the salute and so on...
6) they don't trust ppl easily, always keep u in the dark... as a sales, but not expecting me go out market visit and expect me can get all info sitting in my chair, funny...

this is simply toooo micromanage. Hire me in such high salary to do clerical job meh? I'm confuse....

you all encounter this kind of funny behaviors Korean company / korean boss culture??  Is it that hard to deal with??
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Korean and Japan same. Crazy culture. All the bowing to show senior respect. Work late everyday, boss no go home, you no go home.

Japan and Korea nice place to retire if you have money, definitely not a place to work.
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post Jan 7 2020, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Jan 7 2020, 12:12 PM)
4) I didn't know cannot sleep during work
5) I didn't know being late for work is bad
6) I didn't know taking breaks during working hours is bad

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Usually when i go ular, i go to toilet.. so pipu cannot see me ular icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(tatmeng @ Jan 7 2020, 12:10 PM)
I want to ask also. Recently read a lot of ahem ahen manhwa.
Are those korean babes like to drink air haram and then easily get drunk?
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based on my Korean friend drinking is their culture. so almost every day they will go for a drink but not all easily get drunk.
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post Jan 7 2020, 12:19 PM

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Because you're just salesman. Unless u have great customer base if not just an expense for them.


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post Jan 7 2020, 12:19 PM

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got take korean amoi pic before leave?
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QUOTE(tatmeng @ Jan 7 2020, 12:11 PM)
The bank name start with P?
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Different branch different culture
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my client is korean
i feel you bro
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even korean who work oversea cant brain how korean company work...same with japan...

good luck finding new job...
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I dont belib u. 1 side stori. Ular too much. Just need to get rid of you, doesnt need any good reason.

See no 4.. farking car aircon. Can not fix off work ah. Will die or car can not move ah?

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lol how to do sales if everything also have to get permission. Ke they hired u for backoffice sales work lol
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QUOTE(shinjo @ Jan 7 2020, 12:05 PM)
Well, my stories is about working in a Korean company is totally depressing & stressful.

I tot i found a jewel getting into a korean company, big company... but later on to find out that it is another chapter of horror movie.

At first, everything seems fine, Korean boss seem friendly, slowly to learn up from scratch, office environment is small & clean. Many perks (snacks, coffee machine, supplements, etc) and each lunch makan good good Boss belanja.

But the nightmare is , actually each day you are living a testing trial period. monitor you without saying. I'm a proactive salesperson, that's what i should do as a sales.

On the 1st day of new year work, come back office and received a sudden termination. Saying i'm not suit to his korean culture style working. Fine.....
but when explaining the rather unreasonable answer to me, I'm shocked on how different our working style is...

1) Cannot late a single day.... not 10 mins( even with given notice earlier due to unusual heavy traffic)
2) Cannot yawn and feeling sleepy during work. (tiu, looking at monitor all day squeezing brain not lethargic?? , besides, not that i directly sleep !!)
3) Priority of consent is important, ALWAYS DO GET consent/ approval before doing your things. Even if it is a new year greeting emails to customers.
4) Even in chatroom, there is a case where i go out take things from customer, on the way back office & my car aircon spoil no gas, i just needed 10 mins to stop by workshop to refill gas.. i notify it and take pics send in groupchat, BUT this is an offence... Said why does not consult him 1st to get approval before refill. Not to simply notify and think it is ok.
5) the manners in treating him like a very big boss is similar in Japan.. hierarchy seniority is very important in korean culture. the respect you must show to them is very important. the salute and so on...
6) they don't trust ppl easily, always keep u in the dark... as a sales, but not expecting me go out market visit and expect me can get all info sitting in my chair, funny...

this is simply toooo micromanage. Hire me in such high salary to do clerical job meh? I'm confuse....

you all encounter this kind of funny behaviors Korean company / korean boss culture??  Is it that hard to deal with??
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I work in Korea company in Korea before.

No such issues as you mention

You know why your guys are micro manage ?

Try to reflect your self in front of a mirror.
Usually those kena mm are because their bosses don't trust them and have no faith in these people.

Think about it

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Probably the boss didnt like you.
He can find any reason to terminate you.


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QUOTE(shinjo @ Jan 7 2020, 12:05 PM)
Well, my stories is about working in a Korean company is totally depressing & stressful.

I tot i found a jewel getting into a korean company, big company... but later on to find out that it is another chapter of horror movie.

At first, everything seems fine, Korean boss seem friendly, slowly to learn up from scratch, office environment is small & clean. Many perks (snacks, coffee machine, supplements, etc) and each lunch makan good good Boss belanja.

But the nightmare is , actually each day you are living a testing trial period. monitor you without saying. I'm a proactive salesperson, that's what i should do as a sales.

On the 1st day of new year work, come back office and received a sudden termination. Saying i'm not suit to his korean culture style working. Fine.....
but when explaining the rather unreasonable answer to me, I'm shocked on how different our working style is...

1) Cannot late a single day.... not 10 mins( even with given notice earlier due to unusual heavy traffic)
2) Cannot yawn and feeling sleepy during work. (tiu, looking at monitor all day squeezing brain not lethargic?? , besides, not that i directly sleep !!)
3) Priority of consent is important, ALWAYS DO GET consent/ approval before doing your things. Even if it is a new year greeting emails to customers.
4) Even in chatroom, there is a case where i go out take things from customer, on the way back office & my car aircon spoil no gas, i just needed 10 mins to stop by workshop to refill gas.. i notify it and take pics send in groupchat, BUT this is an offence... Said why does not consult him 1st to get approval before refill. Not to simply notify and think it is ok.
5) the manners in treating him like a very big boss is similar in Japan.. hierarchy seniority is very important in korean culture. the respect you must show to them is very important. the salute and so on...
6) they don't trust ppl easily, always keep u in the dark... as a sales, but not expecting me go out market visit and expect me can get all info sitting in my chair, funny...

this is simply toooo micromanage. Hire me in such high salary to do clerical job meh? I'm confuse....

you all encounter this kind of funny behaviors Korean company / korean boss culture??  Is it that hard to deal with??
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mereka tidak suka kalau kamu buat kerja tanpa memberitahu mereka apa yang kamu ingin buat. Mereka tidak akan kongsi pengetahuan mereka kerana mereka takut ditindas. mereka juga sangat mengharapkan pujian akan kerja yang mereka laksanakan.

Budaya yang tidak sihat.
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post Jan 7 2020, 12:23 PM

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Have experience working together with a South Korean conglomerate.

Bloody micromanage and annoying - every single little thing want to do according to their way. Like even writing a sentence in Minutes of Meeting - die die want it written exactly their way even though grammar was all over the place.

They were very very hard to admit they were wrong even it was very obvious. Really putar like crazy.
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Ayam current job i came on time
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QUOTE(shinjo @ Jan 7 2020, 12:05 PM)
Well, my stories is about working in a Korean company is totally depressing & stressful.

I tot i found a jewel getting into a korean company, big company... but later on to find out that it is another chapter of horror movie.

At first, everything seems fine, Korean boss seem friendly, slowly to learn up from scratch, office environment is small & clean. Many perks (snacks, coffee machine, supplements, etc) and each lunch makan good good Boss belanja.

But the nightmare is , actually each day you are living a testing trial period. monitor you without saying. I'm a proactive salesperson, that's what i should do as a sales.

On the 1st day of new year work, come back office and received a sudden termination. Saying i'm not suit to his korean culture style working. Fine.....
but when explaining the rather unreasonable answer to me, I'm shocked on how different our working style is...

1) Cannot late a single day.... not 10 mins( even with given notice earlier due to unusual heavy traffic)
2) Cannot yawn and feeling sleepy during work. (tiu, looking at monitor all day squeezing brain not lethargic?? , besides, not that i directly sleep !!)
3) Priority of consent is important, ALWAYS DO GET consent/ approval before doing your things. Even if it is a new year greeting emails to customers.
4) Even in chatroom, there is a case where i go out take things from customer, on the way back office & my car aircon spoil no gas, i just needed 10 mins to stop by workshop to refill gas.. i notify it and take pics send in groupchat, BUT this is an offence... Said why does not consult him 1st to get approval before refill. Not to simply notify and think it is ok.
5) the manners in treating him like a very big boss is similar in Japan.. hierarchy seniority is very important in korean culture. the respect you must show to them is very important. the salute and so on...
6) they don't trust ppl easily, always keep u in the dark... as a sales, but not expecting me go out market visit and expect me can get all info sitting in my chair, funny...

this is simply toooo micromanage. Hire me in such high salary to do clerical job meh? I'm confuse....

you all encounter this kind of funny behaviors Korean company / korean boss culture??  Is it that hard to deal with??
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they terminated you when you were still under probation?
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QUOTE(cococonutseller @ Jan 7 2020, 12:08 PM)
Sorry even in local Chinaman company also like this..

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it's nothing new in malaysian companies, not just chinaman company. what TS is saying is that he never expected it from korean company. lol
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QUOTE(shinjo @ Jan 7 2020, 12:05 PM)
Well, my stories is about working in a Korean company is totally depressing & stressful.

I tot i found a jewel getting into a korean company, big company... but later on to find out that it is another chapter of horror movie.

At first, everything seems fine, Korean boss seem friendly, slowly to learn up from scratch, office environment is small & clean. Many perks (snacks, coffee machine, supplements, etc) and each lunch makan good good Boss belanja.

But the nightmare is , actually each day you are living a testing trial period. monitor you without saying. I'm a proactive salesperson, that's what i should do as a sales.

On the 1st day of new year work, come back office and received a sudden termination. Saying i'm not suit to his korean culture style working. Fine.....
but when explaining the rather unreasonable answer to me, I'm shocked on how different our working style is...

1) Cannot late a single day.... not 10 mins( even with given notice earlier due to unusual heavy traffic)
2) Cannot yawn and feeling sleepy during work. (tiu, looking at monitor all day squeezing brain not lethargic?? , besides, not that i directly sleep !!)
3) Priority of consent is important, ALWAYS DO GET consent/ approval before doing your things. Even if it is a new year greeting emails to customers.
4) Even in chatroom, there is a case where i go out take things from customer, on the way back office & my car aircon spoil no gas, i just needed 10 mins to stop by workshop to refill gas.. i notify it and take pics send in groupchat, BUT this is an offence... Said why does not consult him 1st to get approval before refill. Not to simply notify and think it is ok.
5) the manners in treating him like a very big boss is similar in Japan.. hierarchy seniority is very important in korean culture. the respect you must show to them is very important. the salute and so on...
6) they don't trust ppl easily, always keep u in the dark... as a sales, but not expecting me go out market visit and expect me can get all info sitting in my chair, funny...

this is simply toooo micromanage. Hire me in such high salary to do clerical job meh? I'm confuse....

you all encounter this kind of funny behaviors Korean company / korean boss culture??  Is it that hard to deal with??
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is ur comapny same building with Huawei ??

anyway feedback from my friend wrking in korean company....most koreans are lazy ass but getting high paid as an Expat. They misused the budget and splurge all day long , in the end all claims from company.

dont know how to pitch for a project....but they thought yamseng and hoo haa can win a project....which is an ultimate facepalm...no proper presentation

they dont hire a person based on qualification....they hired based on how good u jilat the boss, better if u are not smart/low requirement so u dont complain much and just follow order .....

in office ....they will wear slippers and shower in office....they like to stock up alot of milo/coffee/instant noodles....till staff curi oso its ok everything just claim from company...

and many others fund abusing in marketing campaign/budget/etc.....fark up company


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QUOTE(shinjo @ Jan 7 2020, 12:05 PM)
Well, my stories is about working in a Korean company is totally depressing & stressful.

I tot i found a jewel getting into a korean company, big company... but later on to find out that it is another chapter of horror movie.

At first, everything seems fine, Korean boss seem friendly, slowly to learn up from scratch, office environment is small & clean. Many perks (snacks, coffee machine, supplements, etc) and each lunch makan good good Boss belanja.

But the nightmare is , actually each day you are living a testing trial period. monitor you without saying. I'm a proactive salesperson, that's what i should do as a sales.

On the 1st day of new year work, come back office and received a sudden termination. Saying i'm not suit to his korean culture style working. Fine.....
but when explaining the rather unreasonable answer to me, I'm shocked on how different our working style is...

1) Cannot late a single day.... not 10 mins( even with given notice earlier due to unusual heavy traffic)
2) Cannot yawn and feeling sleepy during work. (tiu, looking at monitor all day squeezing brain not lethargic?? , besides, not that i directly sleep !!)
3) Priority of consent is important, ALWAYS DO GET consent/ approval before doing your things. Even if it is a new year greeting emails to customers.
4) Even in chatroom, there is a case where i go out take things from customer, on the way back office & my car aircon spoil no gas, i just needed 10 mins to stop by workshop to refill gas.. i notify it and take pics send in groupchat, BUT this is an offence... Said why does not consult him 1st to get approval before refill. Not to simply notify and think it is ok.
5) the manners in treating him like a very big boss is similar in Japan.. hierarchy seniority is very important in korean culture. the respect you must show to them is very important. the salute and so on...
6) they don't trust ppl easily, always keep u in the dark... as a sales, but not expecting me go out market visit and expect me can get all info sitting in my chair, funny...

this is simply toooo micromanage. Hire me in such high salary to do clerical job meh? I'm confuse....

you all encounter this kind of funny behaviors Korean company / korean boss culture??  Is it that hard to deal with??
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korean company imho too much office politics / kdrama.

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one day late with earlier notice cannot?
like that i would've been terminated 120 times then

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1) Cannot late a single day.... not 10 mins( even with given notice earlier due to unusual heavy traffic)

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Korean and Japan are worst to work with .....

Knn i've seen Korean crazy bosses scold there staff up and down ...scold and shout at them like a dog until they cry

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diu... u never watch any korea movie/drama? watch some before u go there

seniority is their culture, the high up do shit, u down there also cannot say anything or else prepare to get expel only, in that case u actually better monitor everywhere and fit in lol... dont bring in malaysia style there la.. mempersiasuikan malaysian haha
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Well, my stories is about working in a Korean company is totally depressing & stressful.

I tot i found a jewel getting into a korean company, big company... but later on to find out that it is another chapter of horror movie.

At first, everything seems fine, Korean boss seem friendly, slowly to learn up from scratch, office environment is small & clean. Many perks (snacks, coffee machine, supplements, etc) and each lunch makan good good Boss belanja.

But the nightmare is , actually each day you are living a testing trial period. monitor you without saying. I'm a proactive salesperson, that's what i should do as a sales.

On the 1st day of new year work, come back office and received a sudden termination. Saying i'm not suit to his korean culture style working. Fine.....
but when explaining the rather unreasonable answer to me, I'm shocked on how different our working style is...

1) Cannot late a single day.... not 10 mins( even with given notice earlier due to unusual heavy traffic)
2) Cannot yawn and feeling sleepy during work. (tiu, looking at monitor all day squeezing brain not lethargic?? , besides, not that i directly sleep !!)
3) Priority of consent is important, ALWAYS DO GET consent/ approval before doing your things. Even if it is a new year greeting emails to customers.
4) Even in chatroom, there is a case where i go out take things from customer, on the way back office & my car aircon spoil no gas, i just needed 10 mins to stop by workshop to refill gas.. i notify it and take pics send in groupchat, BUT this is an offence... Said why does not consult him 1st to get approval before refill. Not to simply notify and think it is ok.
5) the manners in treating him like a very big boss is similar in Japan.. hierarchy seniority is very important in korean culture. the respect you must show to them is very important. the salute and so on...
6) they don't trust ppl easily, always keep u in the dark... as a sales, but not expecting me go out market visit and expect me can get all info sitting in my chair, funny...

this is simply toooo micromanage. Hire me in such high salary to do clerical job meh? I'm confuse....

you all encounter this kind of funny behaviors Korean company / korean boss culture??  Is it that hard to deal with??
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I don't see the company got problem but you.

You watch alot of kpop and drama, but don't get their culture?
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QUOTE(shinjo @ Jan 7 2020, 12:05 PM)
Well, my stories is about working in a Korean company is totally depressing & stressful.

I tot i found a jewel getting into a korean company, big company... but later on to find out that it is another chapter of horror movie.

At first, everything seems fine, Korean boss seem friendly, slowly to learn up from scratch, office environment is small & clean. Many perks (snacks, coffee machine, supplements, etc) and each lunch makan good good Boss belanja.

But the nightmare is , actually each day you are living a testing trial period. monitor you without saying. I'm a proactive salesperson, that's what i should do as a sales.

On the 1st day of new year work, come back office and received a sudden termination. Saying i'm not suit to his korean culture style working. Fine.....
but when explaining the rather unreasonable answer to me, I'm shocked on how different our working style is...

1) Cannot late a single day.... not 10 mins( even with given notice earlier due to unusual heavy traffic)
2) Cannot yawn and feeling sleepy during work. (tiu, looking at monitor all day squeezing brain not lethargic?? , besides, not that i directly sleep !!)
3) Priority of consent is important, ALWAYS DO GET consent/ approval before doing your things. Even if it is a new year greeting emails to customers.
4) Even in chatroom, there is a case where i go out take things from customer, on the way back office & my car aircon spoil no gas, i just needed 10 mins to stop by workshop to refill gas.. i notify it and take pics send in groupchat, BUT this is an offence... Said why does not consult him 1st to get approval before refill. Not to simply notify and think it is ok.
5) the manners in treating him like a very big boss is similar in Japan.. hierarchy seniority is very important in korean culture. the respect you must show to them is very important. the salute and so on...
6) they don't trust ppl easily, always keep u in the dark... as a sales, but not expecting me go out market visit and expect me can get all info sitting in my chair, funny...

this is simply toooo micromanage. Hire me in such high salary to do clerical job meh? I'm confuse....

you all encounter this kind of funny behaviors Korean company / korean boss culture??  Is it that hard to deal with??
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1) Not samseng punya company... other la, i'm in representative office handle malaysia business and asean side. U could have gauge my salary liao... ain't clerical work kecik salary.

2) yes, they do abuse the perks n fund. I no need worried for lunch and heavy expensive meal here as he always pay for everything. Wear slipper in office, YES u r correct.

3) terminate under probation. just come in and ask me no need come liao.

4) yeah i do believe is he doesn't trust me at all too. Communication breakdown as well as they always keep me in dark about company progress or even the sales pricing... How ironic as a country manager.

5) Yes, you can't correct them , especially with other peers around... they need muka. ALOT.

6) my entitlement isn't fair as well, 10 days annual leave, plus initially saying that my salary inclusive of all payment of the EPF & socso. That means i have no EPF & SOCSO contribution... i argue cannot, i must follow malaysian labour law.

7) they do scold ppl macam doggie, as not following their way of working style.
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QUOTE(shinjo @ Jan 7 2020, 12:05 PM)
Well, my stories is about working in a Korean company is totally depressing & stressful.

I tot i found a jewel getting into a korean company, big company... but later on to find out that it is another chapter of horror movie.

At first, everything seems fine, Korean boss seem friendly, slowly to learn up from scratch, office environment is small & clean. Many perks (snacks, coffee machine, supplements, etc) and each lunch makan good good Boss belanja.

But the nightmare is , actually each day you are living a testing trial period. monitor you without saying. I'm a proactive salesperson, that's what i should do as a sales.

On the 1st day of new year work, come back office and received a sudden termination. Saying i'm not suit to his korean culture style working. Fine.....
but when explaining the rather unreasonable answer to me, I'm shocked on how different our working style is...

1) Cannot late a single day.... not 10 mins( even with given notice earlier due to unusual heavy traffic)
2) Cannot yawn and feeling sleepy during work. (tiu, looking at monitor all day squeezing brain not lethargic?? , besides, not that i directly sleep !!)
3) Priority of consent is important, ALWAYS DO GET consent/ approval before doing your things. Even if it is a new year greeting emails to customers.
4) Even in chatroom, there is a case where i go out take things from customer, on the way back office & my car aircon spoil no gas, i just needed 10 mins to stop by workshop to refill gas.. i notify it and take pics send in groupchat, BUT this is an offence... Said why does not consult him 1st to get approval before refill. Not to simply notify and think it is ok.
5) the manners in treating him like a very big boss is similar in Japan.. hierarchy seniority is very important in korean culture. the respect you must show to them is very important. the salute and so on...
6) they don't trust ppl easily, always keep u in the dark... as a sales, but not expecting me go out market visit and expect me can get all info sitting in my chair, funny...

this is simply toooo micromanage. Hire me in such high salary to do clerical job meh? I'm confuse....

you all encounter this kind of funny behaviors Korean company / korean boss culture??  Is it that hard to deal with??
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OK... So bila nk expose the name of the company?
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1) Not samseng punya company... other la, i'm in representative office handle malaysia business and asean side. U could have gauge my salary liao... ain't clerical work kecik salary.


6) they don't trust ppl easily, always keep u in the dark... as a sales, but not expecting me go out market visit and expect me can get all info sitting in my chair, funny...
so i take it you are sales manager for the region, meaning there are people that report to you. maybe your boss expects you to just read those reports and make a report out of that report?

yeah i know it's stupid without first hand input from the ground.
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QUOTE(shinjo @ Jan 7 2020, 12:05 PM)
Well, my stories is about working in a Korean company is totally depressing & stressful.

I tot i found a jewel getting into a korean company, big company... but later on to find out that it is another chapter of horror movie.

At first, everything seems fine, Korean boss seem friendly, slowly to learn up from scratch, office environment is small & clean. Many perks (snacks, coffee machine, supplements, etc) and each lunch makan good good Boss belanja.

But the nightmare is , actually each day you are living a testing trial period. monitor you without saying. I'm a proactive salesperson, that's what i should do as a sales.

On the 1st day of new year work, come back office and received a sudden termination. Saying i'm not suit to his korean culture style working. Fine.....
but when explaining the rather unreasonable answer to me, I'm shocked on how different our working style is...

1) Cannot late a single day.... not 10 mins( even with given notice earlier due to unusual heavy traffic)
2) Cannot yawn and feeling sleepy during work. (tiu, looking at monitor all day squeezing brain not lethargic?? , besides, not that i directly sleep !!)
3) Priority of consent is important, ALWAYS DO GET consent/ approval before doing your things. Even if it is a new year greeting emails to customers.
4) Even in chatroom, there is a case where i go out take things from customer, on the way back office & my car aircon spoil no gas, i just needed 10 mins to stop by workshop to refill gas.. i notify it and take pics send in groupchat, BUT this is an offence... Said why does not consult him 1st to get approval before refill. Not to simply notify and think it is ok.
5) the manners in treating him like a very big boss is similar in Japan.. hierarchy seniority is very important in korean culture. the respect you must show to them is very important. the salute and so on...
6) they don't trust ppl easily, always keep u in the dark... as a sales, but not expecting me go out market visit and expect me can get all info sitting in my chair, funny...

this is simply toooo micromanage. Hire me in such high salary to do clerical job meh? I'm confuse....

you all encounter this kind of funny behaviors Korean company / korean boss culture??  Is it that hard to deal with??
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How much you get paid in this company?

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Korean and Japan are worst to work with .....

Knn i've seen Korean crazy bosses scold there staff up and down ...scold and shout at them like a dog until they cry

Korean treating staff like a piece of crap
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have you seen the china, china company??

Fuck man.. scary as fuck too. Why asian companies gotta be scary places to work at?

jeez..
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4) I didn't know cannot sleep during work
5) I didn't know being late for work is bad
6) I didn't know taking breaks during working hours is bad

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To TS, its not that Korean company is strict but Malaysia company is too tolerance.

1. You eat your breakfast during office hours
2. Come late 15 minute still acceptable
3. Aunt/Uncle/nephew/cousin sick also can get EL.
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Jan 7 2020, 01:47 PM)
have you seen the china, china company??

Fuck man.. scary as fuck too. Why asian companies gotta be scary places to work at?

jeez..
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ts kena conned by korea company, enough say..hahah

ask them pay you out
- 1 month per year service
- late notice (pro-rate it )
- balance AL

hosay, TS will get pocket money for CNY liao

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To TS, its not that Korean company is strict but Malaysia company is too tolerance.

1. You eat your breakfast during office hours
2. Come late 15 minute still acceptable
3. Aunt/Uncle/nephew/cousin sick also can get EL.
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when they come here to work, they are truly mind blowned..
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QUOTE(Lyu @ Jan 7 2020, 01:38 PM)
OK... So bila nk expose the name of the company?
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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Jan 7 2020, 01:44 PM)
so i take it you are sales manager for the region, meaning there are people that report to you. maybe your boss expects you to just read those reports and make a report out of that report?

yeah i know it's stupid without first hand input from the ground.
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Jan 7 2020, 01:47 PM)
have you seen the china, china company??

Fuck man.. scary as fuck too. Why asian companies gotta be scary places to work at?

jeez..
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QUOTE(James1983 @ Jan 7 2020, 01:51 PM)
TS jobless now?
Any compensation received from the termination?
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QUOTE(kingmafia @ Jan 7 2020, 01:53 PM)
To TS, its not that Korean company is strict but Malaysia company is too tolerance.

1. You eat your breakfast during office hours
2. Come late 15 minute still acceptable
3. Aunt/Uncle/nephew/cousin sick also can get EL.
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All above..... tak mau expose la, market small only. i have my principal... i just wanted to rant and also hear more feedback from u all only jek...

I'm the country sales manager, but i don't have subordinates. I only handle the malaysia distributor sales, and making sure they repeat their order each month. My whole office only comprise of 4 people. very small group... I'm now on alot of paperwork basis , but it is still a fucking boring job without me having any authority nor chances to go out market visit understanding the trend and info gathering.

No compensation as it is under a 3 months probation.

and another rule forget to explain, NO MC on same day you apply. Gotta inform earlier on any MC otherwise everything else is just tipu MC for him......
Sick come to work 1st and he will observe your condition before granting you any permission for the MC at panel clinic.

China's companies i haven't encounter yet la, mind to share also..???
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yep, maybe it's good. as i really can't suit their working styles... such crazy rules.... I'm a lenient guy. I don't control over my subordinates in such strict rules. happy staff , happy environment.
it's not that i allow them to be this manner, but provided they don't get over the board with illogical nonsense reason or abuse the chances i've given to them la. Ultimately, i just want you to work properly and getting the job done right.

Going everything by the book is not my working style. U r not robot.

I value a more positive work ethic and vibrant environment. Being micromanaged from each perspective is not healthy. I believe in leveraging each one’s strength to bring out the best effective working modal to benefit the company. But first, we need to acknowledge that everyone is different in their own best way. Then we can build a better team from there.
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QUOTE(jurkflash @ Jan 7 2020, 12:13 PM)
diu... u never watch any korea movie/drama? watch some before u go there

seniority is their culture, the high up do shit, u down there also cannot say anything or else prepare to get expel only, in that case u actually better monitor everywhere and fit in lol... dont bring in malaysia style there la.. mempersiasuikan malaysian haha
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They treat the boss like some kind of medieval Lord.




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chinaman company lagi teruk! my staff mc asked me call him ask why mc and tomorrow call doctor check the mc izzit true and what sick
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if direct samsung mayb not that bad kot ?

if other subsidiaries companies...i heard mostly rubbish....
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When I asked my creative agency (who is also handling Samsung account), she said staff turnover is high due to staff cannot tahan. mega_shok.gif bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(shinjo @ Jan 7 2020, 02:07 PM)
All above..... tak mau expose la, market small only. i have my principal... i just wanted to rant and also hear more feedback from u all  only jek...

I'm the country sales manager, but i don't have subordinates. I only handle the malaysia distributor sales, and making sure they repeat their order each month.  My whole office only comprise of 4 people. very small group... I'm now on alot of paperwork basis , but it is still a fucking boring job without me having any authority nor chances to go out market visit understanding the trend and info gathering.

No compensation as it is under a 3 months probation.

and another rule forget to explain, NO MC on same day you apply. Gotta inform earlier on any MC otherwise everything else is just tipu MC for him......
Sick come to work 1st and he will observe your condition before granting you any permission for the MC at panel clinic.

China's companies i haven't encounter yet la, mind to share also..???
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QUOTE(shinjo @ Jan 7 2020, 12:05 PM)
1) Cannot late a single day.... not 10 mins( even with given notice earlier due to unusual heavy traffic)
2) Cannot yawn and feeling sleepy during work. (tiu, looking at monitor all day squeezing brain not lethargic?? , besides, not that i directly sleep !!)
3) Priority of consent is important, ALWAYS DO GET consent/ approval before doing your things. Even if it is a new year greeting emails to customers.
4) Even in chatroom, there is a case where i go out take things from customer, on the way back office & my car aircon spoil no gas, i just needed 10 mins to stop by workshop to refill gas.. i notify it and take pics send in groupchat, BUT this is an offence... Said why does not consult him 1st to get approval before refill. Not to simply notify and think it is ok.
5) the manners in treating him like a very big boss is similar in Japan.. hierarchy seniority is very important in korean culture. the respect you must show to them is very important. the salute and so on...
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this one is called being professional bro, east asian style. not micromanaging. you need to be extra discipline working for an east asian company.
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this one is called being professional bro, east asian style. not micromanaging. you need to be extra discipline working for an east asian company.
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Don't be a jerk boss pls, Tq.
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this one is called being professional bro, east asian style. not micromanaging. you need to be extra discipline working for an east asian company.
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Lol i worked in korean company for 5 years in Pasir Gudang Johor and i dont need to get the consent of ny boss every damn time.
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QUOTE(shinjo @ Jan 7 2020, 12:05 PM)
Well, my stories is about working in a Korean company is totally depressing & stressful.

I tot i found a jewel getting into a korean company, big company... but later on to find out that it is another chapter of horror movie.

At first, everything seems fine, Korean boss seem friendly, slowly to learn up from scratch, office environment is small & clean. Many perks (snacks, coffee machine, supplements, etc) and each lunch makan good good Boss belanja.

But the nightmare is , actually each day you are living a testing trial period. monitor you without saying. I'm a proactive salesperson, that's what i should do as a sales.

On the 1st day of new year work, come back office and received a sudden termination. Saying i'm not suit to his korean culture style working. Fine.....
but when explaining the rather unreasonable answer to me, I'm shocked on how different our working style is...

1) Cannot late a single day.... not 10 mins( even with given notice earlier due to unusual heavy traffic)
2) Cannot yawn and feeling sleepy during work. (tiu, looking at monitor all day squeezing brain not lethargic?? , besides, not that i directly sleep !!)
3) Priority of consent is important, ALWAYS DO GET consent/ approval before doing your things. Even if it is a new year greeting emails to customers.
4) Even in chatroom, there is a case where i go out take things from customer, on the way back office & my car aircon spoil no gas, i just needed 10 mins to stop by workshop to refill gas.. i notify it and take pics send in groupchat, BUT this is an offence... Said why does not consult him 1st to get approval before refill. Not to simply notify and think it is ok.
5) the manners in treating him like a very big boss is similar in Japan.. hierarchy seniority is very important in korean culture. the respect you must show to them is very important. the salute and so on...
6) they don't trust ppl easily, always keep u in the dark... as a sales, but not expecting me go out market visit and expect me can get all info sitting in my chair, funny...

this is simply toooo micromanage. Hire me in such high salary to do clerical job meh? I'm confuse....

you all encounter this kind of funny behaviors Korean company / korean boss culture??  Is it that hard to deal with??
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tbh, thier work culture not for human one.

if you're not the boss you're basically kuli. there is no such thing as cincai. if they ask you to eat shit then you better eat shit.
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QUOTE(shinjo @ Jan 7 2020, 02:07 PM)
All above..... tak mau expose la, market small only. i have my principal... i just wanted to rant and also hear more feedback from u all  only jek...

I'm the country sales manager, but i don't have subordinates. I only handle the malaysia distributor sales, and making sure they repeat their order each month.  My whole office only comprise of 4 people. very small group... I'm now on alot of paperwork basis , but it is still a fucking boring job without me having any authority nor chances to go out market visit understanding the trend and info gathering.

No compensation as it is under a 3 months probation.

and another rule forget to explain, NO MC on same day you apply. Gotta inform earlier on any MC otherwise everything else is just tipu MC for him......
Sick come to work 1st and he will observe your condition before granting you any permission for the MC at panel clinic.

China's companies i haven't encounter yet la, mind to share also..???
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but you are a boss oh. like a leader, kena fired . your subs see u ma very malu later?
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they always have this stereotypical vendetta towards Chinese because of their country history.

they always have this dumbass mentality in them where they would look down on other Asians

but they always like to glorify white dicks and pussies

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QUOTE(~min~ @ Jan 7 2020, 12:14 PM)
Well, thats how it should be. Company pay you for you time, but you steal their time to do your stuff. Kalau dalam islam, kamu tiada konsep amanah. Want to do personal stuff, do it in your personal time. Refill gas after work cant?

People no ask you greet customer, why would you that? Be professional
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See kdrama also u want to sabotage boss already lah if you are the strong character type.

Just see a police drama, the big police is a bad guy, the hero is just an inspector. The hero cannot investigate big boss because his pangkat is lower. Feel want to kill both bad guy and hero. Geram.
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heng I work for an ang moh company. I really avoid all Asian companies as good as possible since most of them are not relaxed at all (boss, employees etc.), too much stress

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No one got fired will said his boss did the right thing

Nuff said

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that's not micromanage, they simply doesn't like you.
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everything needs to report back basically means micromanage already

the only thing left to report is TS went to toilet to pee...need to report 1st and ask for permission brows.gif

but i do agree to no.1 though....be punctual as per contract...contract say 8-5PM...u arrive before 8..simple as that
especially for sales where u can't be late for your customer

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that's why angmoh company is the bestest, so we msians rather jilat angmoh
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angmoh company best company

those asian companies based here you let their own people work...unless you tell me you got expat pay around 20k la
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Bodo repair car during working hours ...
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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Jan 7 2020, 02:49 PM)
but you are a boss oh. like a leader, kena fired . your subs see u ma very malu later?
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QUOTE(Chaud @ Jan 7 2020, 03:00 PM)
the customer probably lenglui so TS trying to be nice brows.gif
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Tiu`.... ur car without aircon.... running in hot afternoon. and needed a long drive back to office. Is it very offensive to just refill it on my way back to have a more comfortable ride??? Serious offence? Notify it in the groupchat that i've done it is my respect toward you and shows that i'm still a responsible person of notify you what have happened. WHY NOT i just keep quiet and do it without telling you, you want that?? Better?? But no, he want me of NOTIFY him personally 1st and get his consent/approval before posting it in groupchat.

Yep, i'm a leader without subordinates.... my PA see me also shocked of what have happen on the first day of work. Like a sudden hurricane.

the customers that i've sent greeting that day is actually some prospect customers that i've visited 3 weeks ago. New year ma, of course i would like to send some greetings to them and inquire/ follow up with them, keeping them fresh in mind and so that to build rapport and ultimately closing deal. But korean boss judgement is that i didn't get his consent before sending too, saying that greeting new prospect is very sensitive... we don't know which to appoint yet. That's why korean boss 3 weeks without any further action plan....like nothing happen for the visit. keep cold...
that's not my style....I don't let my prospect gone cold and forget me...
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QUOTE(Chaud @ Jan 7 2020, 03:13 PM)
angmoh company best company

those asian companies based here you let their own people work...unless you tell me you got expat pay around 20k la
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Angmoh company culture value employees more, i know that because i worked for them 5 years before. They spend more effort in retaining employees with alot of skill sets.


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QUOTE(Teddysaur @ Jan 7 2020, 02:53 PM)
they always have this stereotypical vendetta towards Chinese because of their country history.

they always have this dumbass mentality in them where they would look down on other Asians

but they always like to glorify white dicks and pussies
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1. Ang moh dua ki
2. ABC and gang
3.True East Asian ( jepunis , Koreans and China Chinese)
4. East Asian descendant other than angmoh country ( including SEA)
5.brown
5. Black

True story .


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korean company in korea or malaysia? can u speak korean
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QUOTE(shinjo @ Jan 7 2020, 03:15 PM)
the customers that i've sent greeting that day is actually some prospect customers that i've visited 3 weeks ago. New year ma, of course i would like to send some greetings to them and inquire/ follow up with them, keeping them fresh in mind and so that to build rapport and ultimately closing deal. But korean boss judgement is that i didn't get his consent before sending too, saying that greeting new prospect is very sensitive... we don't know which to appoint yet. That's why korean boss 3 weeks without any further action plan....like nothing happen for the visit. keep cold...
that's not my style....I don't let my prospect gone cold and forget me...
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management sohai you ma tender jump to a better boss that would appreciate your hardwork lo
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Respect is important, snaking go do other stuff during office hour is wrong. You informed into the group chat let everyone know that your boss can't control his staff and influence others to do the same.

Bad influence, good riddance from your boss.

If he don't terminate you, soon you will see the whole chat group become . Sorry, jam late by 15-30mins, sorry got stuff to do, back late by 15mins by others. brows.gif Decisive boss, i like.
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QUOTE(suikod3n @ Jan 7 2020, 03:27 PM)
Respect is important, snaking go do other stuff during office hour is wrong. You informed into the group chat let everyone know that your boss can't control his staff and influence others to do the same.

Bad influence, good riddance from your boss.

If he don't terminate you, soon you will see the whole chat group become . Sorry, jam late by 15-30mins, sorry got stuff to do, back late by 15mins by others.  brows.gif Decisive boss, i like.
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I agree
I think if TS didn't post tht he refill his air cond or whatever shit his boss would've closed one eye

He do sohai things then dare post for everyone to see in group is like challenging boss authority, maruah tercabai

So now boss is peeing on TS to show back his dominance
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QUOTE(suikod3n @ Jan 7 2020, 03:27 PM)
Respect is important, snaking go do other stuff during office hour is wrong. You informed into the group chat let everyone know that your boss can't control his staff and influence others to do the same.

Bad influence, good riddance from your boss.

If he don't terminate you, soon you will see the whole chat group become . Sorry, jam late by 15-30mins, sorry got stuff to do, back late by 15mins by others.  brows.gif Decisive boss, i like.
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hello... i don't snake.. And i can't even leave my office for market visit. apa snake??? I left the office is the only time if he needs me to go customer office pick up stuffs... Coming back with a fucking no aircon, why you wanna make your life miserable , uncomfortable??
informing him in groupchat is my respect... I could have just gone quiet on it.. No drama.

I guess you suit working here...

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 7 2020, 03:11 PM)
everything needs to report back basically means micromanage already

the only thing left to report is TS went to toilet to pee...need to report 1st and ask for permission brows.gif

but i do agree to no.1 though....be punctual as per contract...contract say 8-5PM...u arrive before 8..simple as that
especially for sales where u can't be late for your customer
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Come to work must be punctual as per contract, but going back home can't be punctual as per contract?
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Jan 7 2020, 01:47 PM)
have you seen the china, china company??

Fuck man.. scary as fuck too. Why asian companies gotta be scary places to work at?

jeez..
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China are shitty calculative ......even toilet paper they count

Pennywise pound foolish

keep cost-saving on stupid petty shit ....like you eat extra peanuts or ikan bilis also they count
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jan 7 2020, 03:31 PM)
I agree
I think if TS didn't post tht he refill his air cond or whatever shit his boss would've closed one eye

He do sohai things then dare post for everyone to see in group is like challenging  boss authority, maruah tercabai

So now boss is peeing on TS to show back his dominance
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sikit sikit maruah tercabar???? UMNO ka?? Pls ~~~ if i'm a boss, i don't have such time to get irk by such action..
I'll honour the truth that you have respect me as a senior and even giving me to know of such incident.
Rather than a hiding person...

Employee like you i'll rather watch out , as you tend to be more secretive and not knowing your true intentions...
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QUOTE(shinjo @ Jan 7 2020, 12:05 PM)
this is simply toooo micromanage. Hire me in such high salary to do clerical job meh? I'm confuse....

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Isn't that great??
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QUOTE(Exiled_Gundam @ Jan 7 2020, 03:38 PM)
Come to work must be punctual as per contract, but going back home can't be punctual as per contract?
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China are shitty calculative ......even toilet paper they count

Pennywise pound foolish

keep cost-saving on stupid petty shit ....like you eat extra peanuts or ikan bilis also they count
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Haiz...reading your post really hit my heart.
How i wish i get offer from a establish company than China company today and i can say bye bye to my current company.
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Leave je la, all these cinaman attitude kampani. As long as you finish your work I don't see why they should care so much pon.
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QUOTE(tatmeng @ Jan 7 2020, 12:10 PM)
I want to ask also. Recently read a lot of ahem ahen manhwa.
Are those korean babes like to drink air haram and then easily get drunk?
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jan 7 2020, 03:48 PM)
Haiz...reading your post really hit my heart.
How i wish i get offer from a establish company than China company today and i can say bye bye to my current company.
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i also sadding wei .....i also work for chinamen company

allowance 10 years never increase ...... i eat economy rice also from rm2 to rm10 in 10 years

electricity allowance also 10 years never increase then electricity price already increases 100% ......want me how to save? Sleep using fan also need to fork out the money myself

The meal also I eat until nasi putih put egg and kicap soon

Really sadding weii ......but i still stay in this china company than jobless ......i don't know is this syukurlah or what
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Wait till you work for ikankering
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why?
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Yep can confirm.

Thats why angmo is the best employer.
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why?
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QUOTE(cofin @ Jan 7 2020, 03:52 PM)
i also sadding wei .....i also work for chinamen company

allowance 10 years never increase ...... i eat economy rice also from rm2 to rm10 in 10 years

electricity allowance also 10 years never increase then electricity price already increases 100% ......want me how to save? Sleep using fan also need to fork out the money myself

The meal also I eat until nasi putih put egg and kicap soon

Really sadding weii ......but i still stay in this china company than jobless ......i don't know is this syukurlah or what
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Congrats for your stubbornness to be able to withstand until 10years.
I just joined last year December already felt uneasy.
Kasi me production manager but now 1 leg kick everything.
Don't want to pay lawyer money and want me to nego on behalf of company for the TA.
Ready to burn my salary if it doesn't go well.

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This I am inclined to agree. Most angmo are good emphatic employers. But sarcasm is god level.
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aisheh~~. sarcasm is ok.. it trains you to handle top management level ppl, you'll need that if you wanna climb higher.. You know what's important in that level?? EQ !!! on how to entertain and pusing your top management.. Because everyday is bullshit... and eating all the scold like makan nasi putih.. then u can survive that level.
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You didn't need to tell him you went to fix AC, just say you flatted and needed to repair the tyre. Aiyo.
You are one honest sales manager and honest to a fault.
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QUOTE(hotdayum @ Jan 7 2020, 03:54 PM)
This I am inclined to agree. Most angmo are good emphatic employers. But sarcasm is god level.
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Malaysian can do sarcasm
But when sendiri kena, mangamuk.
Lol
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QUOTE(shinjo @ Jan 7 2020, 03:58 PM)
aisheh~~. sarcasm is ok.. it trains you to handle top management level ppl, you'll need that if you wanna climb higher.. You know what's important in that level??  EQ !!!  on how to entertain and pusing your top management.. Because everyday is bullshit... and eating all the scold like makan nasi putih.. then u can survive that level.
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Jan 7 2020, 01:47 PM)
have you seen the china, china company??

Fuck man.. scary as fuck too. Why asian companies gotta be scary places to work at?

jeez..
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wan senang and freedom? go work gomen job. unlimited time for minum kopi. punch in 8 sharp, punch out 5 sharp.
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wan senang and freedom? go work gomen job. unlimited time for minum kopi. punch in 8 sharp, punch out 5 sharp.
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QUOTE(shinjo @ Jan 7 2020, 12:05 PM)
Well, my stories is about working in a Korean company is totally depressing & stressful.

I tot i found a jewel getting into a korean company, big company... but later on to find out that it is another chapter of horror movie.

At first, everything seems fine, Korean boss seem friendly, slowly to learn up from scratch, office environment is small & clean. Many perks (snacks, coffee machine, supplements, etc) and each lunch makan good good Boss belanja.

But the nightmare is , actually each day you are living a testing trial period. monitor you without saying. I'm a proactive salesperson, that's what i should do as a sales.

On the 1st day of new year work, come back office and received a sudden termination. Saying i'm not suit to his korean culture style working. Fine.....
but when explaining the rather unreasonable answer to me, I'm shocked on how different our working style is...

1) Cannot late a single day.... not 10 mins( even with given notice earlier due to unusual heavy traffic)
2) Cannot yawn and feeling sleepy during work. (tiu, looking at monitor all day squeezing brain not lethargic?? , besides, not that i directly sleep !!)
3) Priority of consent is important, ALWAYS DO GET consent/ approval before doing your things. Even if it is a new year greeting emails to customers.
4) Even in chatroom, there is a case where i go out take things from customer, on the way back office & my car aircon spoil no gas, i just needed 10 mins to stop by workshop to refill gas.. i notify it and take pics send in groupchat, BUT this is an offence... Said why does not consult him 1st to get approval before refill. Not to simply notify and think it is ok.
5) the manners in treating him like a very big boss is similar in Japan.. hierarchy seniority is very important in korean culture. the respect you must show to them is very important. the salute and so on...
6) they don't trust ppl easily, always keep u in the dark... as a sales, but not expecting me go out market visit and expect me can get all info sitting in my chair, funny...

this is simply toooo micromanage. Hire me in such high salary to do clerical job meh? I'm confuse....

you all encounter this kind of funny behaviors Korean company / korean boss culture??  Is it that hard to deal with??
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QUOTE(cofin @ Jan 7 2020, 03:52 PM)
i also sadding wei .....i also work for chinamen company

allowance 10 years never increase ...... i eat economy rice also from rm2 to rm10 in 10 years

electricity allowance also 10 years never increase then electricity price already increases 100% ......want me how to save? Sleep using fan also need to fork out the money myself

The meal also I eat until nasi putih put egg and kicap soon

Really sadding weii ......but i still stay in this china company than jobless ......i don't know is this syukurlah or what
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Because slaves in America back to 1860 can yawn
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jan 7 2020, 03:58 PM)
Congrats for your stubbornness to be able to withstand until 10years.
I just joined last year December already felt uneasy.
Kasi me production manager but now 1 leg kick everything.
Don't want to pay lawyer money and want me to nego on behalf of company for the TA.
Ready to burn my salary if it doesn't go well.
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damn ....sound like my case

I hold 3 positions for 1 pay... any shit happen i kena screw

Then everyday cost saving cutting cost ....knn the company making billions per year and you still want save RM16? walauwei nowonder chinamen always become rich

Even travelling allowance if my client belanja breakfast then they found out also cut 4usd from travelling allowance ......walauwei this chinamen i think no one can compete

Sometime i also want tell them you think the client belanja me lunch or dinner you think i want to eat .....just that i want to be nice and go makan

I wonder did they count how many bulu ketiak i drop in the office or not

QUOTE(Aud power @ Jan 7 2020, 04:19 PM)
Thats why pipul jump every 2-3 years
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can...i go home 5 on the dot
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QUOTE(cofin @ Jan 7 2020, 04:33 PM)
damn ....sound like my case

I hold 3 positions for 1 pay... any shit happen i kena screw

Then everyday cost saving cutting cost ....knn the company making billions per year and you still want save RM16? walauwei nowonder chinamen always become rich

Even travelling allowance if my client belanja breakfast then they found out also cut 4usd from travelling allowance ......walauwei this chinamen i think no one can compete

Sometime i also want tell them you think the client belanja me lunch or dinner you think i want to eat .....just that i want to be nice and go makan

I wonder did they count how many bulu ketiak i drop in the office or not
Its easy to say but hard to do it
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I heard from friend working in Taiwan company.
Go toilet must clock out. Come back clock in. If you pangsai too long, boss will question you. shocking.gif
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QUOTE(DValentine @ Jan 7 2020, 04:38 PM)
HOW YOU layan those cb that is going to bug you 4.55pm?
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i don't off my computer at 4.55PM lah
i off 4.59 thn ciao at 5PM

and my colleague, they understand...sometime if they finish their job...they 5PM ciao as well
usually 5.30PM they all will ciao themselves because our office is located at a place that if u don't go early, it will jam until very long(in front of our office)
eventhough they live super near(around 6KM)....it takes like an hour to reach home
meanwhile i live 30KM away...imagine how long i need to reach back home? rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Jan 7 2020, 04:38 PM)
I heard from friend working in Taiwan company.
Go toilet must clock out. Come back clock in. If you pangsai too long, boss will question you. shocking.gif
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i went to one chinamen company before lagi crazy ..... they put camera in the toilet facing the washing basin and door

to monitor how long staff took their time in the toilet ......

this is the most crazy i ever seen

i tell the executive good luck to you guys then knn .......the executive say we got different toilet

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QUOTE(shinjo @ Jan 7 2020, 03:15 PM)
Tiu`.... ur car without aircon.... running in hot afternoon. and needed a long drive back to office. Is it very offensive to just refill it on my way back to have a more comfortable ride??? Serious offence?  Notify it in the groupchat that i've done it is my respect toward you and shows that i'm still a responsible person of notify you what have happened.  WHY NOT i just keep quiet and do it without telling you, you want that?? Better??  But no, he want me of NOTIFY him personally 1st and get his consent/approval before posting it in groupchat.

Yep, i'm a leader without subordinates.... my PA see me also shocked of what have happen on the first day of work. Like a sudden hurricane.

the customers that i've sent greeting that day is actually some prospect customers that i've visited 3 weeks ago. New year ma, of course i would like to send some greetings to them and inquire/ follow up with them, keeping them fresh in mind and so that to build rapport and ultimately closing deal. But korean boss judgement is that i didn't get his consent before sending too, saying that greeting new prospect is very sensitive... we don't know which to appoint yet. That's why korean boss 3 weeks without any further action plan....like nothing happen for the visit. keep cold...
that's not my style....I don't let my prospect gone cold and forget me...
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Talk long for what, you salah is salah. No nedd to justify. You cmfortable or not, not company prob, they pay you to punch in at 8, then 8 lah

Your personal prob, settle at your personal time.

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HOW YOU layan those cb that is going to bug you 4.55pm?
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i normally ghost off and follow up the next day
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Chinaman company but want to act like angmoh company more worst dude
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QUOTE(mizi28 @ Jan 7 2020, 12:32 PM)
What korean company is that?

I work in tig@bint@ng,
Never had experience like yours🤔
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Samseng mfg or sales?


Dia sales
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Jan 7 2020, 04:38 PM)
I heard from friend working in Taiwan company.
Go toilet must clock out. Come back clock in. If you pangsai too long, boss will question you. shocking.gif
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My company's HR issues the staff with monthly time attendance sheets.
If you late even 1 minute per month, they will immediately email to you and cc your immediate superior to ask you to justify.
But when you OT for 20++ hours or more per month, they take their sweet time to process your OT claims. (As well as other claims like entertainment, etc... )
FML... bangwall.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Jan 7 2020, 01:47 PM)
have you seen the china, china company??

Fuck man.. scary as fuck too. Why asian companies gotta be scary places to work at?

jeez..
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Which china company are you talking about?
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High celery clerical job.

And you got fired?
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QUOTE(shinjo @ Jan 7 2020, 12:05 PM)
Well, my stories is about working in a Korean company is totally depressing & stressful.

I tot i found a jewel getting into a korean company, big company... but later on to find out that it is another chapter of horror movie.

At first, everything seems fine, Korean boss seem friendly, slowly to learn up from scratch, office environment is small & clean. Many perks (snacks, coffee machine, supplements, etc) and each lunch makan good good Boss belanja.

But the nightmare is , actually each day you are living a testing trial period. monitor you without saying. I'm a proactive salesperson, that's what i should do as a sales.

On the 1st day of new year work, come back office and received a sudden termination. Saying i'm not suit to his korean culture style working. Fine.....
but when explaining the rather unreasonable answer to me, I'm shocked on how different our working style is...

1) Cannot late a single day.... not 10 mins( even with given notice earlier due to unusual heavy traffic)
2) Cannot yawn and feeling sleepy during work. (tiu, looking at monitor all day squeezing brain not lethargic?? , besides, not that i directly sleep !!)
3) Priority of consent is important, ALWAYS DO GET consent/ approval before doing your things. Even if it is a new year greeting emails to customers.
4) Even in chatroom, there is a case where i go out take things from customer, on the way back office & my car aircon spoil no gas, i just needed 10 mins to stop by workshop to refill gas.. i notify it and take pics send in groupchat, BUT this is an offence... Said why does not consult him 1st to get approval before refill. Not to simply notify and think it is ok.
5) the manners in treating him like a very big boss is similar in Japan.. hierarchy seniority is very important in korean culture. the respect you must show to them is very important. the salute and so on...
6) they don't trust ppl easily, always keep u in the dark... as a sales, but not expecting me go out market visit and expect me can get all info sitting in my chair, funny...

this is simply toooo micromanage. Hire me in such high salary to do clerical job meh? I'm confuse....

you all encounter this kind of funny behaviors Korean company / korean boss culture??  Is it that hard to deal with??
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From the way u talk I know u what type of ppl d..
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China got 127 companies in fortune 500.

Which china company are you talking about?
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whether is local cinamen kompeni or mainland cinamen kompeni all same2 nia
take advantage of u until niama kenot recognise
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QUOTE(kkboy @ Jan 7 2020, 02:43 PM)
“Professional” is delivering work on time and at the expected quality. Not die die show face in the office for the sake of it only.
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Satisfy him instead
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not all of our life
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get a life pls
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I work in Korean company before
8day AL
10hour day work as per contract
Just do what boss wants

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Inbe4 your boss is your client.

Satisfy him instead
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Professional = Suck boss cock?
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Owai


Why not work harder to be boss since can get sucked brows.gif
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I assure you, they can drink better than you do
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Oh.. Ya I really not good in drinking. One can of beer already terus tidur mati.

Anyway, back to TS, anyway to sue the company?
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Ok la their kpop Gooding
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QUOTE(alexkos @ Jan 7 2020, 06:37 PM)
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Got salary like 20k ?

Or just 4 5k
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if high pay then why not?

Plus, korea is better than here


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QUOTE(~min~ @ Jan 7 2020, 04:46 PM)
Talk long for what, you salah is salah. No nedd to justify. You cmfortable or not, not company prob, they pay you to punch in at 8, then 8 lah

Your personal prob, settle at your personal time.
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Hi~~ finally found some toxic colleague like U .....
Hope you r not management ppl yea ~~ many would die.

QUOTE(Imnotdupe @ Jan 7 2020, 05:53 PM)
From the way u talk I know u what type of ppl d..
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QUOTE(taiping... @ Jan 7 2020, 06:08 PM)
I work in Korean company before
8day AL
10hour day work as per contract
Just do what boss wants
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I don't know how u all are feeling as a salesperson.... but i hope you will feel malu yourself without any other ppl telling if u can't perform your role as a salesperson. As ultimately, ur job is to bring in sales. FINAL.
If what you r currently doing unable or hinder you from performing your role / carry out your duty, at the end you are answerable to the boss only. What u wanna tell them? because you always imprison me in the office only... is that what a salesperson should do??????

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u nid 2 groom urself better bro. in koria cbd all d yung gals set up like kpop star. the std is much high.
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QUOTE(zeist @ Jan 7 2020, 07:20 PM)
if high pay then why not?

Plus, korea is better than here
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I'm based here dude....

about pay ~~~ i have about 12k++
But I'm embarrass with my job.....doing what also dunno, still doing all those petty clerical paperwork job. online searching , etc...... always been kept in the dark about the company sales reports...
Pricing i also embarrass to say that I don't actually know. I have to dig for answers from my own customer about the sales.... lastly get another yelling from korean boss that why need to ask from them...they will provide, WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT.
nia ma der .... totally disappointed in their working styles... everything like to drag as well.
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QUOTE(shinjo @ Jan 7 2020, 09:40 PM)
I'm based here dude.... 

about pay ~~~ i have about 12k++
But I'm embarrass with my job.....doing what also dunno, still doing all those petty clerical paperwork job. online searching , etc...... always been kept in the dark about the company sales reports...
Pricing i also embarrass to say that I don't actually know. I have to dig for answers from my own customer about the sales.... lastly get another yelling from korean boss that why need to ask from them...they will provide, WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT. 
nia ma der .... totally disappointed in their working styles... everything like to drag as well.
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How to sell if don't know the pricing?
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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Jan 7 2020, 05:49 PM)
My company's HR issues the staff with monthly time attendance sheets.
If you late even 1 minute per month, they will immediately email to you and cc your immediate superior to ask you to justify.
But when you OT for 20++ hours or more per month, they take their sweet time to process your OT claims. (As well as other claims like entertainment, etc... )
FML...  bangwall.gif  cry.gif
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Well most companies in msia is like that. When it come to deduction is very fast.
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QUOTE(kingmafia @ Jan 7 2020, 01:53 PM)
To TS, its not that Korean company is strict but Malaysia company is too tolerance.

1. You eat your breakfast during office hours
2. Come late 15 minute still acceptable
3. Aunt/Uncle/nephew/cousin sick also can get EL.
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try this in ang moh country confirmed they say it's civilise, efficient, productive shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(cofin @ Jan 7 2020, 04:33 PM)
damn ....sound like my case

I hold 3 positions for 1 pay... any shit happen i kena screw

Then everyday cost saving cutting cost ....knn the company making billions per year and you still want save RM16? walauwei nowonder chinamen always become rich

Even travelling allowance if my client belanja breakfast then they found out also cut 4usd from travelling allowance ......walauwei this chinamen i think no one can compete

Sometime i also want tell them you think the client belanja me lunch or dinner you think i want to eat .....just that i want to be nice and go makan

I wonder did they count how many bulu ketiak i drop in the office or not
Its easy to say but hard to do it
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How did they justified/inform you when they cut the 4usd from you? Tell to your face you already got free meal
Ma ?
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QUOTE(mamao @ Jan 7 2020, 10:29 PM)
try this in ang moh country confirmed they say it's civilise, efficient, productive  shakehead.gif
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But ang moh can finished their work within 6 hours. Dunno why theres a gap between asian and europe companies. (American company also have the OT culture)
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HAizz... Korean working culture really really questionable...
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QUOTE(~min~ @ Jan 7 2020, 12:14 PM)
Well, thats how it should be. Company pay you for you time, but you steal their time to do your stuff. Kalau dalam islam, kamu tiada konsep amanah. Want to do personal stuff, do it in your personal time. Refill gas after work cant?

People no ask you greet customer, why would you that? Be professional
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Nak tanya sikit. Kalau gi prayer masa kerja cam mana pulak?
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QUOTE(JasonTheGreat @ Jan 8 2020, 08:04 AM)
Nak tanya sikit. Kalau gi prayer masa kerja cam mana pulak?
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Sorry to say that’s not allowed. You need to compensate the time by working extra to cover it.
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QUOTE(JasonTheGreat @ Jan 8 2020, 08:04 AM)
Nak tanya sikit. Kalau gi prayer masa kerja cam mana pulak?
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If in islam, and if you really care about whether your salary is truely halal for you, praying in working hour also not allowed. You are clearly stealing employee time. Employee pay you time do do work, not praying. You can do your praying in your own personal time like zuhur during lunchbreak and asar after finish work. No excuse. Muslim in malaysia aa soooooooooo lucky yet they abuse the privileges by taking their sweet time praying



I dont know whats wrong with malaysian muslim menyality, its okay for them to steal 5 minutes employee time to pray, but so berkira to use their own personnal time to do praying. Just 5 minutes during lunch break, cant do that?

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QUOTE(Sone Shin @ Jan 7 2020, 07:03 PM)
But hell for those idol. That's why suicide rate high. sad.gif
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Kpop n kdrama r just fantasy that doesn’t reflect reality

What ts experience is the true pic of k culture

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QUOTE(shinjo @ Jan 7 2020, 01:05 PM)
Well, my stories is about working in a Korean company is totally depressing & stressful.

I tot i found a jewel getting into a korean company, big company... but later on to find out that it is another chapter of horror movie.

At first, everything seems fine, Korean boss seem friendly, slowly to learn up from scratch, office environment is small & clean. Many perks (snacks, coffee machine, supplements, etc) and each lunch makan good good Boss belanja.

But the nightmare is , actually each day you are living a testing trial period. monitor you without saying. I'm a proactive salesperson, that's what i should do as a sales.

On the 1st day of new year work, come back office and received a sudden termination. Saying i'm not suit to his korean culture style working. Fine.....
but when explaining the rather unreasonable answer to me, I'm shocked on how different our working style is...

1) Cannot late a single day.... not 10 mins( even with given notice earlier due to unusual heavy traffic)
2) Cannot yawn and feeling sleepy during work. (tiu, looking at monitor all day squeezing brain not lethargic?? , besides, not that i directly sleep !!)
3) Priority of consent is important, ALWAYS DO GET consent/ approval before doing your things. Even if it is a new year greeting emails to customers.
4) Even in chatroom, there is a case where i go out take things from customer, on the way back office & my car aircon spoil no gas, i just needed 10 mins to stop by workshop to refill gas.. i notify it and take pics send in groupchat, BUT this is an offence... Said why does not consult him 1st to get approval before refill. Not to simply notify and think it is ok.
5) the manners in treating him like a very big boss is similar in Japan.. hierarchy seniority is very important in korean culture. the respect you must show to them is very important. the salute and so on...
6) they don't trust ppl easily, always keep u in the dark... as a sales, but not expecting me go out market visit and expect me can get all info sitting in my chair, funny...

this is simply toooo micromanage. Hire me in such high salary to do clerical job meh? I'm confuse....

you all encounter this kind of funny behaviors Korean company / korean boss culture??  Is it that hard to deal with??
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TS unfit to adopt to their working culture..

If so, you can always go to IR and complain. Justice will be served if you are true
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QUOTE(renomahans @ Jan 8 2020, 08:15 AM)
Kpop n kdrama r just fantasy that doesn’t reflect reality

What ts experience is the true pic of k culture
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This one quite reality for job culture: Misaeng: Incomplete Life
Suicide cases I am talking about news, Sulli and Goo hara and more...
I never knew Sulli death and Goo hara death was some fantasy. hmm.gif

You and TS should watch more mature type of series OR read more news.
Don't la always watch romance kdrama and think korean work culture will be good as well.
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Nak negara maju tapi malas kerja komplen banyak

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QUOTE(poooky @ Jan 7 2020, 09:36 PM)
u nid 2 groom urself better bro. in koria cbd all d yung gals set up like kpop star. the std is much high.
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Std you mean short form of standard or the disease?
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post Jan 8 2020, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(Sone Shin @ Jan 8 2020, 09:11 AM)
This one quite reality for job culture: Misaeng: Incomplete Life
Suicide cases I am talking about news, Sulli and Goo hara and more...
I never knew Sulli death and Goo hara death was some fantasy.  hmm.gif

You and TS should watch more mature type of series OR read more news.
Don't la always watch romance kdrama and think korean work culture will be good as well.
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I did not say their suicide r fantasy
I meant their suicides were wake up call to the unrealistic fantasies of k culture
And I am not a fan of k culture
Just that my in laws and waifu love watching it a lot
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post Jan 8 2020, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(Daddy2be @ Jan 7 2020, 11:21 PM)
How did they justified/inform you when they cut the 4usd from you? Tell to your face you already got free meal
Ma ?
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the HR come and show me the claim they got few column ......then breakfast lunch dinner

then tell me I know that the client invite you dinner/lunch/breakfast on the day so we dont give you allowance for it

then overall they pro-rated ....walauwei crazy
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QUOTE(cofin @ Jan 8 2020, 10:36 AM)
the HR come and show me the claim they got few column ......then breakfast lunch dinner

then tell me I know that the client invite you dinner/lunch/breakfast on the day so we dont give you allowance for it

then overall they pro-rated ....walauwei crazy
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WTF? they cannot mix both together
Client treat or invite is client choice
but not related to company
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1. The decision making stages according to the hierarchy is true regardless of whether you are working for a company as a junior nor senior. These stages are backed by plenty of meetings and documentation. Therefore, the decision making process is slower and in many cases inefficient.
2. Work life balance does not exist. Priority is given to work. Professional and personal life are not two separate concepts but essentially one and the same.

and they don't value your personal well-being.

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post Jan 8 2020, 11:55 AM

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i worked in Japanese company for years
i can understand Jap/Korean culture
first thing first, they will not trust you when you just came in
in their mind, when you are newbie, the tendency of you lying is high
whatever you do also is a lie in their mind

you go service aircond, is a lie, you cheat them...
you can do after work or on weekend

you cannot get pricing first, coz likely you will betray the company and provide the pricing to competitors....

company directions also you wont know....even after 10-20 years also you wont know

moreover you are just in probation's period....

jap/korean need times to build trust..thats their culture
once you worked for them for some time and proved your worth and trust they will be more lenient to you.

in TS case, during probation, you did not perform as per their expectations as they think they cannot trust you
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QUOTE(DeadInside @ Jan 7 2020, 04:39 PM)
south korean boss ke north korean boss ni?
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QUOTE(enterthefatdragon @ Jan 8 2020, 11:55 AM)
i worked in Japanese company for years
i can understand Jap/Korean culture
first thing first, they will not trust you when you just came in
in their mind, when you are newbie, the tendency of you lying is high
whatever you do also is a lie in their mind

you go service aircond, is a lie, you cheat them...
you can do after work or on weekend

you cannot get pricing first, coz likely you will betray the company and provide the pricing to competitors....

company directions also you wont know....even after 10-20 years also you wont know

moreover you are just in probation's period....

jap/korean need times to build trust..thats their culture
once you worked for them for some time and proved your worth and trust they will be more lenient to you.

in TS case, during probation, you did not perform as per their expectations as they think they cannot trust you
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Like this mati lor~~~ Hire a worker not for him to perform or carry out his duty, rather to just question on his trustworthy... Better hire his yi-ma, qu-jeh, uncle , auntie, brother sister to work, sure no trust issues.

after work, workshop open and wait for me ka?? weekend only do?? I no need to have a comfortable drive ride to work ka??

Totally no compassion / consideration towards the workers well-being.
Strong hierarchy culture of those stupid seniority... can't correct them or voice out things... Pui`
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QUOTE(shinjo @ Jan 8 2020, 12:31 PM)
Like this mati lor~~~ Hire a worker not for him to perform or carry out his duty, rather to just question on his trustworthy...  Better hire his yi-ma, qu-jeh, uncle , auntie, brother sister to work, sure no trust issues.

after work, workshop open and wait for me ka??  weekend only do?? I no need to have a comfortable drive ride to work ka??

Totally no compassion / consideration towards the workers well-being.
Strong hierarchy culture of those stupid seniority... can't correct them or voice out things...  Pui`
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smile.gif smile.gif thats the problem, they preferred obedient staff then productive staff
they paid you to listen to them....not to find biz for them...
i assumed you worked at representative office of some korea trading company
much worse, the korean just come to enjoy and hire slave to bow to them
run the company like their father's company

they think they hire you and pay you is good enough dy
you should be grateful to them


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post Jan 8 2020, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(shinjo @ Jan 8 2020, 12:31 PM)
Like this mati lor~~~ Hire a worker not for him to perform or carry out his duty, rather to just question on his trustworthy...  Better hire his yi-ma, qu-jeh, uncle , auntie, brother sister to work, sure no trust issues.

after work, workshop open and wait for me ka??  weekend only do?? I no need to have a comfortable drive ride to work ka??

Totally no compassion / consideration towards the workers well-being.
Strong hierarchy culture of those stupid seniority... can't correct them or voice out things...  Pui`
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so this means TS has North Korean boss?
Run man! Run!!

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QUOTE(enterthefatdragon @ Jan 8 2020, 12:39 PM)
smile.gif  smile.gif thats the problem, they preferred obedient staff then productive staff
they paid you to listen to them....not to find biz for them...
i assumed you worked at representative office of some korea trading company
much worse, the korean just come to enjoy and hire slave to bow to them
run the company like their father's company

they think they hire you and pay you is good enough dy
you should be grateful to them
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Yeap, that's very true.. I assume his salary is USD 7k or 8k , then other perks/ allowance .... the fucking expensive condo 6k rental for him & family....
everyday swipe company card to eat lunch & dinner. That's why i just eat his lunch... too fucking expensive to always eat his style. he wanna ask us for lunch, he pays for it.

Like that, no wonder their sales progress here in Malaysia is like shit.
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post Jan 8 2020, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(ukauka2020 @ Jan 7 2020, 12:17 PM)
how much are they paying you
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Yeah, how much? I don't mind to be dungu staff if it's high.
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one of my ex company:

1. everyday in office wear tie from Monday to Thursday
2. not allowed to fold sleeves, even in the office
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QUOTE(quintesson @ Jan 8 2020, 12:55 PM)
Yeah, how much? I don't mind to be dungu staff if it's high.
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about 12k+.., with alot of scolding of your work styles.. U can tahan?

QUOTE(kehadapan @ Jan 8 2020, 12:56 PM)
one of my ex company:

1. everyday in office wear tie from Monday to Thursday
2. not allowed to fold sleeves, even in the office
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