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rayne90
post Jan 6 2020, 03:04 PM

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Mane bleh... nnti I konpius... taklehhh mkn BKt... beburung Kena gunting...
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post Jan 6 2020, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jan 6 2020, 01:17 AM)
I think better give school kids read this lol

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i read this masa dulu in bahasa translation

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Namelessone1973
post Jan 6 2020, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Jan 6 2020, 02:55 PM)
Because jawi is part of BM which is bahasa kebangsaan and still being used  by majority of people and not just part of heritage.

If everytime want to give example of Indonesia then you better stay where you come from lah.
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Can you find any BM newspaper using Jawi today? Any mainstream Jawi magazines or books? Any official government documents in Jawi? Anyone use Jawi on their handphones? Anyone write Jawi letters? I can give more examples but the fact is majority of people do not use Jawi anymore including Malays themselves.

So in other word, your concept of assimilation is basically Borgs. Resistance is futile? I've gave you a perfect example of the failure of force assimilation and all you can say is lu tak suka lu keluar!
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post Jan 6 2020, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(Micozole @ Jan 6 2020, 02:58 PM)
any idea why it wasnt included since we merdeka?

no troll - jst curious as some learnt it during school time 20-30 or 40yrs ago..but i didnt..so wonder what make me miss it eventhough i was from kebangsaan..
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It was included when I was in primary in the early 80s. It was not part if the agama islam subject so it all students learn.

Just basic stuff like knowing the alphabet, basic reading and writing. Cant remember if it's a separate subject from BM or combined though. Probably oart of the BM syllabus.

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post Jan 6 2020, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Jan 6 2020, 03:09 PM)
It was included when I was in primary in the early 80s. It was not part if the agama islam subject so it all students learn.

Just basic stuff like knowing the alphabet, basic reading and writing. Cant remember if it's a separate subject from BM or combined though. Probably oart of the BM syllabus.
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that's weird as i have friends in the 80s as well but none of the learn jawi before

is it anyhow segregated by which kebangsaan school?
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post Jan 6 2020, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jan 6 2020, 03:08 PM)
Can you find any BM newspaper using Jawi today? Any mainstream Jawi magazines or books? Any official government documents in Jawi? Anyone use Jawi on their handphones? Anyone write Jawi letters? I can give more examples but the fact is majority of people do not use Jawi anymore including Malays themselves.

So in other word, your concept of assimilation is basically Borgs. Resistance is futile? I've gave you a perfect example of the failure of force assimilation and all you can say is lu tak suka lu keluar!
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If you open the text book then you'll know that tt's written on every bank notes in your pocket. Marriage certificates for muslims are in jawi.
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post Jan 6 2020, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(Micozole @ Jan 6 2020, 03:10 PM)
that's weird as i have friends in the 80s as well but none of the learn jawi before

is it anyhow segregated by which kebangsaan school?
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I dont know. My school is the premier sk school in my state. Got all people there cina melayu india siam and all.
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post Jan 6 2020, 03:15 PM

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3 pages is everything in this life.
i can accept it.

example 3 pages ayam goreng cheese my secret recipe.u all kenot know ye.

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post Jan 6 2020, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(Micozole @ Jan 6 2020, 03:03 PM)
learn another language only la

wont make us any less cinis one..

true setori
inb4 jawi bukan language
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now jawi, later other religion will bising bising and add their language...
we need to add how many language wor???

btw, malay school have mandarin on their page?
if dun have, try asking to add 3 page in return..
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post Jan 6 2020, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Jan 6 2020, 03:13 PM)
I dont know. My school is the premier sk school in my state. Got all people there cina melayu india siam and all.
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not sure how to split between premier and basic level but its funny that its not implemented across but selectively
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post Jan 6 2020, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Micozole @ Jan 6 2020, 02:58 PM)
any idea why it wasnt included since we merdeka?

no troll - jst curious as some learnt it during school time 20-30 or 40yrs ago..but i didnt..so wonder what make me miss it eventhough i was from kebangsaan..
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After merdeka, Jawi usage was still on par with rumi. In the 70's, the government wanted to modernise the usage of BM. Rumi words and spelling were standardise to make BM easier to learn. If you look at the Malay books printed in the 50's or 60's, spelling for some things can be different compared to today. Example, Chatek become cantik today. Chawan becom cawan today. The sukukata were all changed in the 70's and by 80's it was more or less standardised. The main reason is MOE wanted to make learning BM easier and at the same time be more or less like Indonesia who are using rumi for BI as BM and BI has some similarities.
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post Jan 6 2020, 03:18 PM

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this is just a beginning. later on will add more and eventually if you fail jawi you fail SPM or cannot enter U. mark my word.
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post Jan 6 2020, 03:19 PM

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Can't believe I really read all 14 pages. I thought this was already covered here:

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4886570&hl=

Yet whyyyyyyyyy la ktards sometimes so stupid wan still wanna argue about this. And somemore you layan shitstirrers like M4A1 for wat la doh.gif

This is the guy that butthurt and bitch everything related to PH, and I can bet with you my left nut if ph reverse this khat/jawi lesson, he'd be the first to bitch "PH bodoh u-turn lagi, kerajaan sepenggal, cukur asal bijan turun" etc etc.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4887570?author=M4A1

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...=posts&hl=&st=0

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...s&highlite=jawi
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post Jan 6 2020, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jan 6 2020, 03:17 PM)
After merdeka, Jawi usage was still on par with rumi. In the 70's, the government wanted to modernise the usage of BM. Rumi words and spelling were standardise to make BM easier to learn. If you look at the Malay books printed in the 50's or 60's, spelling for some things can be different compared to today. Example, Chatek become cantik today. Chawan becom cawan today. The sukukata were all changed in the 70's and by 80's it was more or less standardised. The main reason is MOE wanted to make learning BM easier and at the same time be more or less like Indonesia who are using rumi for BI as BM and BI has some similarities.
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but that doesnt explain why some managed to learn that as it was taught in their school, while others also from kebangsaan from that year range never being taught so

i understand if it's to make it easier, thus probably eliminating it altogether

but to teach this half and not that half, i cant think what's going through those MOE's mind that time
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post Jan 6 2020, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Jan 6 2020, 03:02 PM)
Do you think their main interest is just to make money or lusting for power?

If you are not sure please research more
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It is my personal opinion and if you don't agree, it is up to you but the fact is no doubt there are people there who are genuinely doing it for the love of Chinese language but like every associations, there are people there who are doing it for selfish reasons. The school boards have already shown that they have selfish reasons for the computer classes issue. In this case, can you explain why they are so against 3 pages of Jawi when MOE have given so much clarification and the PTA the right to make decision? Why are they so adamant that the school board must be part of the decision making? Why continue to make a mountain out of molehill?
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post Jan 6 2020, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(Micozole @ Jan 6 2020, 03:16 PM)
not sure how to split between premier and basic level but its funny that its not implemented across but selectively
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Maybe they dont remember? I think it was not a separate subject but was part of the BM syllabus. Maybe because it was not inxluded in the exams some teachera may skip it?

Cant remember. It was so long ago. 😁
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post Jan 6 2020, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(akutaksempurna @ Jan 6 2020, 12:35 AM)
These are the 3 pages of jawi that alot of people are afraid off. Congratulations for stirring up so many s***storm for nothing
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ahhhh... kena sunat and masuk Islam lepas baca ni cry.gif cry.gif



sorry guys, there's nothing wrong with these 3 pages. roger and out
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post Jan 6 2020, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(Micozole @ Jan 6 2020, 03:20 PM)
but that doesnt explain why some managed to learn that as it was taught in their school, while others also from kebangsaan from that year range never being taught so

i understand if it's to make it easier, thus probably eliminating it altogether

but to teach this half and not that half, i cant think what's going through those MOE's mind that time
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My elder brother who goes to SRK in the early 80's told me that he studied Jawi from standard 1 to 3 but after standard 3, it was totally gone even for standard 1 students. It was not part of BM and a standalone subject once a week during normal school hours but it was not tested. It was taught by an Uztaz somemore. According to him they move Jawi to Pendidikan Islam but he is not sure.

You knowlar, our education system keep changing all the time especially when there are new Minister of Education.
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post Jan 6 2020, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Jan 6 2020, 03:26 PM)
Maybe they dont remember? I think it was not a separate subject but was part of the BM syllabus. Maybe because it was not inxluded in the exams some teachera may skip it?

Cant remember. It was so long ago. 😁
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i doubt teachings will skip it..or students dont bother to read them

anyhow, i dont think /k here have answer for that

thanks anyway
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post Jan 6 2020, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jan 6 2020, 03:28 PM)
My elder brother who goes to SRK in the early 80's told me that he studied Jawi from standard 1 to 3 but after standard 3, it was totally gone even for standard 1 students. It was not part of BM and a standalone subject once a week during normal school hours but it was not tested. It was taught by an Uztaz somemore. According to him they move Jawi to Pendidikan Islam but he is not sure.

You knowlar, our education system keep changing all the time especially when there are new Minister of Education.
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i reckon thats what happen mostly of not standardizing jawi

some managed to learn if they are lucky

others like me...

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