As title stated, do you write your own songs when you're in a band?
or just play cover and that's it?

I'm joining a battle of the band, but each band must at least have 1 original in order to join.
so we're having a hard time now.

every riff we can get is not as nice.

if you do, can give some ideas or guide on how to make nice riff ?

thanks.

1st u need a good storyline lor...

huh storyline? for?

have u read the rules to be epic? lol (refer to the 7 string thread)

i dun think u need a good storyline/lyrics 1st, u muz have a tune 1st kua... then come the words..

Brother, just tune to drop D and have fun. Seriously, i came up with lots of cool riffs like that. Add in some palm mutes and pinch harmonics to accentuate a part of the riff, and there you have it. *

*If you play metal lah...

Dragons, Swords, Flames and Beasties makes for EPIC lyrics......

i've never read the 7 string thread =p
okok will go in to hav a look. thnx.

sounds ez but ..... >.<
neway i'll try. thnx.

sounds like fairy tale .....

hard music more on anger n spirit..

if you want a new boys fan just think about ur lovely one..

talk with your heart n u will get what u want.. hehehee

BOTB?Is it in Malacca?Where?Would like to see you performing...

Keywords :

Dragon, darkness, good and evil, force, sacrifice, army, stallion.

You've got a metal song.

"An artwork speaks a thousands of stories"
A music piece speaks a thousands of stories and expression"

"Never compose music without appreciation"

Go figure.

MMU. hehe

hell yeah hard music.

alright i will.

It's a CRUSADE, brethren!

ermm. . . well ASIDE from the EPIC stuff. . . lol

do you have theory basics? if you do start with your singers key. . . then work around it. . .

if you want super basic pop songs go for the I-IV-V-I or I-V-I-IV or any of those basic simple formulas. . .

if you play in Drop-D then play in D major / minor. . . simple =)

words just talk about dragons and stuff. . . try adding Puteri Gunung Ledang and The Mighty Dragon or something along those lines. ..

if you want to show INTELLECTUALISM then play in odd time signatures. . . NO 4 4. . .if you wanna play in 4 4 play a 3 4 to a 5 4 xD (Prog Metal rules)

cheers xD

omg, i just got a headache trying to comprehend that....
darn, i really need to learn some theory...

i always prefer songs with more guitar playing then singing
something along the lines of opeth?
at least as much guitar playing as singing la..

ermm

practically. . . you take the key

for example Key of C:

C D E F G A B C

I II III IV V VI VII oct

then just arrange according to the numbers. . . there are basic set formulas for certain genres of music. . .

Jazz uses alot of II-V-I and so on so forth. . .

with that you can start to play with modes as each number represents a mode. . .

and from there you can expand sommore. . . lol

Equilibrium777, thats if u play power chords only. haha

well as i said this is basic? he is asking for basic (making riffs) =.=

haven't even added the maj min min maj maj min dim formula. . .

also in jazz and what not you play 11 and 13 chords. . . which of course is non really important for now. . .

don't forget. . . the Power Metal rule. . . Power Metal = Power Chords =P

you got any site where to find more arrangement on jazz ?

Duhhh...easy, it's about melody and rhythm. As simple as that.

we're just a bunch of beginners, so we can't handle too many guitar solos.

n yeah power chord rules!!

Example of a Beastie yet to be sung about : OWLBEARS!!
Epic gilerrrrrr...! \m/

whoa valkyrie u got play warcraft ar? sorry juz now didnt get to reply ya haha...

warcraft???

Owlbears is from D&D mou!

The guy in the center is an authentic genuine D&D owlbear:



For further information about the native D&D owlbear, you may refer here.

To Quote Herman Li:

Everybody thinks we play Dungeons and Dragons because we're called Dragonforce. We don't! Who the heck wants to roll 11 sided dice? We just play video games man.

Herman Li should be a comedian instead of a musician!

for the theory. . . look for books that touch on theory only. . . where it be jazz rock metal or whatnot. . . they all revolve around the same formula. . . my knowledge is from reading books. . .

just drop by harmony or something and get a few. . . they have quite a number of good books there that can cover different levels. . .

Warcraft got ripp off DnD also 1 xD

DnD is like the one that started all them fantasy stuff xD

Guitar Grimoire by Adam Kadmon is really great. Should be available everywhere, if not, ask the bookshop to order one for you. It's RM90++.

No. That's incorrect.

Tolkien rips off from Norse...Warcraft rips off from Norse and Bible...D&D rips off from Norse...


Norse Mythology started it all! (in Midgar.......dooooo)

This post has been edited by Vbs: Jul 17 2007, 06:42 PM

thnx.

How could you forget the obligatory link to Norse Mythology?

hey TS its not neccesary to enter the BOTB with original songs u know...just that it will be given extra marks if u have self-composed song...I'll be joining as well so see u there i guess...

yeah but the rules stated muz at least 1 originals no?
if possible i wan all 3 cover, if cannot 2 cover 1 original loh.

u'll be there too? good !
dun laugh at us when u see our playing ya.

yeah i have asked the guy he said the at least one cover song not at least one original...means all 3 covers also can lor...but just that original got extra marks...

I'm a noob too we can kesian each other maybe~

Tsk! Tsk! How unepic! Just so you know I never really played Warcraft before. Tried a bit but I don't remember seeing any OWLBEARS in it.

Dungeons & Dragons, Ultima and Might & Magic FTW RoXXoRs!

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Added on July 18, 2007, 12:36 amI always thought BOTBs were popularity contests. Just play the most popular crowd favourite song and you're halfway there. Good luck getting crowd support with original songs bub!

This post has been edited by valkyrie1232: Jul 18 2007, 12:36 AM

^
got lerr! head of an owl and the body of a bear...appear as a neutral creep only la...

TS must listen to the advice of the god k...haha...

you could try doing a medley. . lol. . . dump in super technical songs in between a radio hit! =D

like. . . linkin park with a dragon force solo xD

I think it depends on what the judges want, if the marking sheets have "technique" "tightness" "sound balancing", then this BotB should be more focused on the band itself. Saw some BotB that have "audience appeal" "originality" "creativity" "appearance", obviously it is for bands that look good only, with mediocre skills also can win.

lol..i think looking good on stage , showmanship , appearance , choosing the right cover for the right crowd has its own difficulties lor ..

there are mainly 2 parties you need to satisfy

1.Crowd
2.Judge


3.yourself/band (which seldom happens)

..most of the cover song..either satisfy the "crowd only" ..but not the judges..
some ..satisfy the judges ..not the crowd..

its difficult getting Both sides..

thats why a good medly..is quite a good idea

reminds me of 1 of the battle of the bands i joined during high school time..

one of the band (metal band ) ..asked their fans to "mosh" to their music..
the crowd loved it ...the judges walked away..

This post has been edited by gapnap: Jul 18 2007, 01:29 PM

Don't get me wrong, I never implied that to look good on stage is easy, was just trying to describe what kinda BotBs there are. We've entered some BotBs that focused on the more technical aspect of performing on stage, and saw that the judges are looking for bands that can actually play, appearances are not as important to them; on the other hand, there are judges in other BotBs that know nothing of band-music, and tried to comment on the bands, American-Idol-style, those are just plain idiotic, but then again, can't blame them la, who doesn't want to make money?

Honestly, I can only think of Asian Beat that has these two aspects in balance.