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Ramjade
post Jan 10 2023, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(K555 @ Jan 10 2023, 05:46 PM)
but standalone medical card is not guarantee renewal.
and, even direct to company, they r not likely to deduct the agent's commission to give u cheaper premium compare to what agent quoted u for the same thing.
3rdly, im not sure which product that direct company able to sell to u but so far i encounter, when coming to purchase a product, most of the customer service will ask u to liase with agent.
they will not sell direct to u.

please correct me if im wrong.
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There are standalone cards which have guaranteed renewal.
Ramjade
post Jan 10 2023, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(hellkvr @ Apr 2 2022, 12:24 AM)
Heres and advice. Just skip agent. Take standaolne medical card and buy , CI and life directly from company. Far cheaper than using agents. This is the truth.
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Sorry tag you. How to skip agent? Last time go to branch, they tell me msit go via agent. What insurance company that you are using that can skip agent?

Also what's the name of the plan that you bought for medical. CI and life?

Thank you.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Jan 10 2023, 06:16 PM
Ramjade
post Jan 12 2023, 06:46 AM

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QUOTE(gogocan @ Jan 10 2023, 07:25 PM)
Co. cover Etiqa. 350k a year for each family members.
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What plan is that?
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post Apr 5 2023, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Apr 5 2023, 09:56 AM)
But life insurance with ilp good right?
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Kindly read the stuff before and decided if ILP good or not.
https://investmentmoats.com/budgeting/insur...-right-reasons/

https://investmentmoats.com/budgeting/insur...rance-and-ilps/

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In a simple sense, ILP take your money, pay expenses and invest the rest.
If their investment do well (in the future), ILP pays your premium, and the rest are profit (for them).
If it doesn't, you'll end up paying any premium deficit.
So insurance company get the upside, while we shoulder the risk. How is that a good deal for us?

https://www.reddit.com/r/MalaysianPF/commen...egular_medical/

For me I am buying AIA a-med life regular with booster (standalone). Avoid ILP.

ILP Holiday premium
You can don't pay for a while but you will need to pay for it eventually. How many months depend on how good is the investment. If you look at majority of the investment, cannot even match EPF return.
If you are a good pay master (always pay on time) standalone make more sense. Of course if you can generate 50% returns with the money saved by not paying premium, than ILP might be better choice. How many normal humans you know can generate that kind of returns?

ILP waiver
Only applicable if you got critical illness which is not early stage.

If you want to buy life insurance, just buy term until you retire. Don't need to buy until old age.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Apr 5 2023, 10:14 AM
Ramjade
post Apr 5 2023, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(akhito @ Apr 5 2023, 06:26 PM)
For life insurance, you got recommendation too?
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Yes avoid ILP. Buy a term insurance that covers until your retirement age. Get term and invest the rest. Dump the savings into EPF if you don't know how to invest. If you know how to invest, substitute WPF with S&P500 etf. Why EPF? Cause majority of the ILP cannot even match EPF returns. So by you putting your money into EPF you already beat like 9x%+ of the ILP funds already. Of course cons of EPF is need to wait until 55 years old to access the money and you are holding RM.

That's means insure until retirement than no need anymore cause at retirement theoretically you should have any much dependant anymore (kids likely grow up already, house mortgage likely settle, no debts).

If you cannot fulfilled the above, need to work on your retirement planning

Read here for more detail.
https://singaporeanstocksinvestor.blogspot....rm-how.html?m=1.

If you got time, just read though his entire blog (it will help you a lot). He helped me when I was clueless and starting out. So basically he's mine online financial teacher that I never had.

QUOTE(Natsukashii @ Apr 5 2023, 04:01 PM)
You're right, plans we can sign up online is limited. Only certain plans/type can.

For the others, even if we contact them they'll pass us to an agent anyway
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Good medical insurance that you can sign up online only exist one. The one sold by fi.life by AXA.

To get good standalone medical insurance with coverage of RM1m+ no choice have to go via agent.

If one is ok coverage of RM100k-150k, many exist online (suitable for kids), not so much for adults.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Apr 5 2023, 08:24 PM
Ramjade
post Apr 5 2023, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(Halibut @ Apr 5 2023, 10:51 PM)
Is it hard to apply to become insurance agent? Thinking of doing part time only.
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You need to pass exam. After that you need to apply. I am not sure if there is a target and what happen if didn't hit the target.
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post Apr 20 2023, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(doremon @ Apr 19 2023, 05:28 AM)
Hi Guys. Just need your good input on this deal package from Prudential for age 44

RM203/sebulan
➡️Manfaat kematian/TPD - RM10k
➡️Medical limit- RM200k/setahun, unlimited/seumur hidup (*smartsaver300)
➡️Room & board - RM200/hari
➡️ limit Cancer, buah pinggang, jantung - RM400k/setahun
➡️Outpatient chemo, radiotherapy, dialisis - RM1juta/seumur hidup
➡️Emergency outpatient accident - RM2000/setahun
➡️Elaun gov hospital- RM100/day
➡️Income protector - RM2k/setahun
*smartsaver300- bil hospital tk cover hanya RM300. cth total bil RM10k, insuran cover RM9.7k, client byr sendiri RM300
*income protector- jika terkena salah satu dari 43 jenis sakit kritikal, antaranya cancer, setiap tahun akn dpt cash RM2k

Good deal or pass ?
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Say no to GE. Rm200k is not enough to last you until 70 years old it's enough for say 10 years and this is assume you don't landed up in. ICU. ICU is RM5-10k/day.
If it's normal ward and no major surgery, more than enough.

You can get it cheaper if you DIY instead of bundling everything
AXA emedic plus
Deartime or fi.life death + TPD or FWD

QUOTE(Halibut @ Apr 19 2023, 07:57 AM)
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Anyone subscribed and any inputs? Tq
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Depend on what you want. If you want the cheapest plan. Nope. Cheapest is medisavers.
If you want fully online with no agent and million coverage, you got yourself a winner (fi.life)

QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Apr 19 2023, 02:02 PM)
Does not depends

Its still bad

Separate ur investment from insurance

Both basically polar opposite

For the small amount of tax breaks not worth it

But for financial noobs at least u are doing abit of investment with this. I rather u extra contribute the amount into epf than giving free to insurance company
If die get 10k only? N yearly hosp bil 200k max?
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Never take ILP. Always take standalone and invest the rest.
Also don't overinsure just to chase the income tax portion. Just insure enough and claim what you pay.

QUOTE(Truth Angel @ Apr 19 2023, 11:09 PM)
Just say no to Great Eastern and Prudential.
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What's wrong with Prudential? I know Great Eastern got very bad rep.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Apr 20 2023, 02:04 AM

 

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