I am just curious whether any range of price consider for changing gearbox oil and engine oil as I found the price is quite ridiculous if we try to see the product online sale price.

Like recently I changed my engine oil semi and the charges is RM148 which I believe is ok but when they charge me RM240 to change the gear box oil of atf honda city dw - 1L (4LITER), I was shock with the price as online the same product seems be cheaper to each liter as RM60.

So, want to see any cheaper option available especially around klang valley, pj, kd area with the same brand product or even a match pricing with online sale price?

This post has been edited by stevenkkh: Dec 28 2019, 03:51 PM

want cheaper, buy the stuff yourself.
then go to workshop and pay labor cost oni

Pennzoil SAE30 only cost RM175 for 18L (enough for 4 times oil change).

Workshops that uses the car conveyor lift normally charges around RM30 - 35 for labour to change engine oil / gear oil.

The more traditional workshop which uses jack stand will charge around RM20 for the same job.

By the way, Honda City requires only 3 litre of ATF DW1. If they filled in 4 litre, confirm its overfilled and may damage your gearbox in the long run.

Normally, 3 bottles of ATF DW1 will cost around RM75. Include the labour of RM20, it is around RM95 only. I know because I am driving a Honda City TMO.

Not all workshop likes someone walk in without using their stuff.
some will jack up the labour price and show you the "piss" Face that they don't welcome their customers bring in own stuff.

And the ones who do it are the Chinese workshop.
(don't mean to be racist)

Yes, I feel cheated when I see the price of the product online such as this deal and seriously, charge 30-50 bucks for labour is understandable but jacking up the product price seems unreasonable:

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/honda-ci....7358fdc8KjnSt5

RM215 to change gear oil as I am thinking whether such pricing difference due to the product itself and thinking why so much difference the pricing even online that I am suspicious whether due the the quality or even any fake goods.

Oohh.. DTOX is always on the pricier side. Previously I had brought my own engine and transmission oil for them to replace. They charged me RM35 for labour.

I guess if you buy the oil / fluid from them, they will charge you an arm and a leg for them.

Engine oil can be as low as rm15 for labor only, while transmission can be 30-50 for labor only.
Engine oil can be as low as rm70-80 for branded semi synth. ATF can be as low as rm120/4ltr for some cars.

Just changed both

Proton Persona

5w40 Fully Synthetic Engine Oil RM40
OSK Oil Filter RM5
SP III 4L ATF RM65
Labour RM30

Yup. So better to invest in a jack and learn to change it yourself from YouTube.

So true!

All these while I thought these oil/fluid changes would be difficult. After I changed it once, I was hooked

I bought some tools and have been doing these changes on my own for my car (and family, lol)

Oddly, transmission fluid changes are much more easier than engine oil, but more expensive. For engine oil change, its a bit messy as you’ll need to change filter, quite messy. For transmission, its just a bolt, relatively clean procedure

Plus, knowing u’ve done it correctly bring satisfaction

Yes. Changing oil and gear oil is easy. You'll feel stupid paying RM25-50 for the labour.

the main important point is not paying rm20-30 for labour but to clear the greasy oil into proper containment area...

If simply throw the oil will bring pollution to environment.. at least those shop will sent back to factory for re-processing.

I keep the used engine oil and accumulate a few bottles. Then when it's time to visit the local mechanic for parts replacement / repair, I will bring the used oil for disposal.

The mechanic will accept them willingly as they can sell off the used oil for around RM150++ (per barrel).

Keep back to where you pour from.
Then bring to a local mechanic. They'll be happy to take it off your hands.
As Thrust said, they can sell these used oil. Free money.

I give my used up oil to workshop in my taman, who is also my neighbour

But good point, if u dispose in tong sampah, better pay and do at workshop. DIY is not that common in M’sia

The used oil can be re-used but price will not be a lot. It's more for environmental issue.

Not a lot but recycling companies buy them in bulk (barrel).

Thanks all for the input, for me, the labour cost is understandable for people to do business, the thing I hate will be the inflating price of the product as the engine oil and gear oil to even double or even 50% more is ridiculous.

Learn my lesson to check the price of the material first instead of just believing all this so called one stop pro centre or myfave discount. Seems to be all this will not cost more than 150 for either engine oil semi synthetic or gear oil.

u change at ur father workshop arr , u think labour is free

Well, to be fair that was how workshop business works during the 80s. Before the internet and online shopping, spare parts prices are unknown to users. So the workshop would just quote the spart parts price + markup. This is how service center works as well. Their spare parts are markedup like 75%. So fast forward to today, parts pricing can be easily found online. Now only people realize workshops are charging like unreasonable price. To me, I think workshops need to change their method of business. Quote parts with like 10% markup and quote the workmanshop appropriately. Cause RM20 for changing oil is not feasible for maintaining business. I know people will think it's simple job and all but workshops need to pay for overhead. RM20 is really not enough for them to cover their 30 minutes of time. Hence the reason why other countries, they charge by the hours. No matter what you do, minimum charges is 1 hour and so on.

I think it is fair enough to charge labour fees by updating the customer with even RM30-RM50 but definitely not marking up the price of the material till 50% above others market price with profit as this is consider cheating to the customer. I believe people can report them to consumer court for over profiteering as even durian over price also can be reported.

Workshop must follow RRP. Online don't.

Case in point, Shell Fully Synthetic is RM 105 at Shopee
But workshop probably 200+ since that's the RRP price.

This is new, then this means the workshop might even have a lower price than RM105 for this product since at shopee can even sell at that price with profit if the same product.

This is the thing I am curious as the price too big difference that make me thought maybe it is low quality or even fake product online but now you mention the same one selling almost half of the price, this sound ridiculous to me already. Sounds to me like never buy anything from the workshop without checking online first lol.

Workshop marked up price to cover for:
a) their higher purchasing cost as they normally source it from neighborhood spare part shops (i.e not main dealer / stockist).
b) their purchase is on credit term instead of cash basis
c) labour to re-do or claim warranty / hassle provided in case of complaint

One may purchase it and install it separately due to workshop tied up with certain brand of lubricant or their supplier (i.e spare part shop). Do note, certain part shops only carry certain brand of brake pads...etc..(for eg: Mintye is everywhere but one prefer Akebono/ Trestor/ TRW)

No doubt it is secret on name and location of shops which are the main spare parts dealer / stockist. I have share the list as below.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry95023713

My car leak oil, the workshop told me is Oil Seal problem. need a lot of works to remove gear box / engine in order to get the oil seal replace. they charge me RM330 for labor and oil seal. is that normal?
labor is 250.
oil seal 2 units = 80.

Car?

labor 250? What car? To remove gear box & engine out to change the oil seal 250 consider very reasonable nowadays.
If more bigger or modern car i think way more than that.
FYI, nowadays proper service center are charging almost RM100/hour rate for workmanship.
Removing the gear box & engine out to change the seal you think can so fast settle?

repeated

This post has been edited by littlefire: Aug 13 2021, 09:27 AM

If it involves removing the gearbox to change, I am assuming you are talking about the rear/flywheel oil seal.

What I can share from my queries around to change my flywheel oil seal for Wira with manual gearbox is

labour is 250 --> good price. I was quoted 270-350 and needed 1-3days of time
oil seal 2 units = 80 --> normal price @workshops but do enquire further on the seals' material; HNBR or Viton? Go for Viton (OEM) or genuine car manufacturer's seals

Mind you, the cost quote to you above has not included the transmission fluid (MTF/ATF) yet. Depending on quality of fluid choice, it may cost as much as the labour itself.

Not sure if your car is AT or MT, coz if MT and with the transmission housing out, might as well ask the mechanic to check/change other seals related to the transmission; driveshaft seals, input shaft seal, shift shaft seal/bush etc. These things also require removal of transmission housing if any of them fail in the future; more costs.

Also, in case of economic hardship during this pandemic period, you may consider using ATP AT-205 Re-Seal to try temporarily fix the oil leak issue. But do note this method only may work IF your leaky seal is not in dire condition, meaning it can only work if the leak is minor.

it is the flywheel oil seal.

Thanks for your input

Cheap Car. Axia

250 is reasonable price for flywheel oil seal. The work takes at least 1 day. If the mechanic spend 1 day doing your car, he have little time left to do other work.

one workshop in klang charged me RM40 for CVT fluid change..while Honda Service Centre charge RM75 for the same thing , with free wifi ..LOL

May I know now what the market price to change the ATF with labour charge for H-RV?

i change CVT oil at Honda service center only about RM100. The labor charge is not expensive too since Im doing other things. I found that outside bengkel more expensive than going to Honda Service for oil change

How much is cvt oil itself on honda now?
I assume that you mentioned labor for replacing cvt oil is rm100.

The cvt oil is around 100. I dunno about labor charges as I’m doing other things like change engine oil etc

Rn100 for the cvt oil itself is very reasonable.
Outside market is selling rm100 above and the genuinely is doubt.
Just wondering either Honda got sell those oil and etc to user directly or not without involving labor

my friend h.city change his engine oil and CVT fluid that labor oni cost him RM50 near sentul .

The only thing about online is that whether or not the oil is home mixed.