What kind of damn result? Always training for what??
National Team Malaysia Football club...hopeless
National Team Malaysia Football club...hopeless
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Jul 14 2007, 09:43 PM, updated 19y ago
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I just watch finish that Malaysia home 0 vs 5 away Uzbekistan
What kind of damn result? Always training for what?? |
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Jul 14 2007, 09:45 PM
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to kill time
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Jul 14 2007, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE(Lone46 @ Jul 14 2007, 09:43 PM) Always training for what?? To lose weight. |
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Jul 14 2007, 09:49 PM
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and again 5 goals...FAM suckz
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Jul 14 2007, 09:49 PM
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5 to china and now...to uzbekistan...ishh....
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Jul 14 2007, 09:50 PM
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waiting for another 5 goals for coming match..ahaha..FAM f*ck
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Jul 14 2007, 09:52 PM
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lepak kedai mamak banyak sangat
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Jul 14 2007, 09:56 PM
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This thing happened when the politician heading the FAM
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Jul 14 2007, 10:04 PM
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Anyway you should change the title name. It's not Malaysian football club but Malaysia Football Association. National teams are under Football Associations, not club.
Anyway Malaysian national team sucks badly now.. |
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Jul 14 2007, 10:16 PM
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next match against Iran some more. Can't stand to watch anymore... look at the papers today, empty promises from the national coach.
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Jul 14 2007, 10:20 PM
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10 goals in juz 2 games.....
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Jul 14 2007, 10:23 PM
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...wad a record....tat has been made...10 goal conceed in 2 game...
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Jul 14 2007, 10:25 PM
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dont say already la..
fed up with them already |
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Jul 14 2007, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(Ranceed @ Jul 14 2007, 09:56 PM) They can do anything since the Head of FAM is Sultan of Pahang and his son all England FA committee is those ex-footballer....but in Malaysia FAM is all in politician wondering what the hell politician know about football that why other country football team getting better and better but our malaysia getting poorer and poorer This post has been edited by outsider: Jul 14 2007, 10:28 PM |
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Jul 14 2007, 10:27 PM
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Training to be a loser.
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Jul 14 2007, 10:34 PM
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***! it is the problem of belacan la. Stop eating too much belacan! No good.
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Jul 14 2007, 10:36 PM
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Did u saw the fourth goal scored ... ! the Uzbekistan player can over hit the ball goes unbalance outside the pitch and still get control of the ball at the conner flag and cross in .. and the Malaysia player is like standing there doing nothing ... !" admiring the Uzbekistan player skill i guest " ..
I just have to switch to a different channel already that time , so frustrating want to support them .. school boy also play better .. I wondering what the coach will say next ... This post has been edited by siLDes: Jul 14 2007, 10:38 PM |
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Jul 14 2007, 10:41 PM
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i cant imagine how many goals malaysia gonna give iran. who can guess ?
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Jul 14 2007, 10:41 PM
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This is a blardy humiliation towards Malaysian football, we have conceded 10 goals on 2 games, its outrages. Malaysia shouldn't be co-hosting it, its really a disgrace watching our team playing at home ground and got trash badly and worst still its for the 50th Merdeka. MALAYSIA BOLEH, LAUNGLAH BENDERA MALAYSIA.
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Jul 14 2007, 10:43 PM
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Jul 14 2007, 11:07 PM
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Please stop joining competition , no more please
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Jul 14 2007, 11:17 PM
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I would say a minimum of 5 goals conceded for the next match against Iran.
50th year of independence, 10 goals of embarrassment for the country. What an achievement. |
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Jul 14 2007, 11:21 PM
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if want better, 20-0 with iran, 20-0 with china, so can get 50-1, 50th merdeka, 50 goals given for free.
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Jul 14 2007, 11:23 PM
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FAM people should just resign.
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Jul 14 2007, 11:24 PM
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5-0 = 50th Anniversary? As one of the co-host and we got pawned badly, how embarrassing ..
Get a foreign coach! Sack the current Malaysia coach! |
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Jul 14 2007, 11:28 PM
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the coach and players should read this book
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Jul 14 2007, 11:28 PM
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semi-pro player made of farmers and fishermens?
hahaha.... malaysia boleh!!!!!!!!!!! macam tahi lembu.... buang lah coach on the spot... tak payah menyalahkan pemain... |
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Jul 14 2007, 11:29 PM
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Just disband the national squad ... forget footballing in Malaysia
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Jul 14 2007, 11:36 PM
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play malaysia cup and super league same time.
wat a genius. let's achieve world ranking 200. |
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Jul 14 2007, 11:39 PM
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agreed that we need footballers running the FAM... not politicians.
EUFA runs by footballer... even FIFA also got lots of footballer influence rather than politicians. EPL? look all around... Director of football for clubs usually has been footballer sometime in their lives... not sultan... not minister.... haih... malaysian soccer? died with the demise of Semi Pro league in 1993.... those were the days aaa.... |
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Jul 14 2007, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE(vvv @ Jul 14 2007, 11:28 PM) semi-pro player made of farmers and fishermens? Those walking on the pitch, watching with awe of opponent move is the coach or players? All the fcuk nonsense members of FAM should resign, sack the coach, drop all players. Current players on the team are obviously weak to compete with other.hahaha.... malaysia boleh!!!!!!!!!!! macam tahi lembu.... buang lah coach on the spot... tak payah menyalahkan pemain... |
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Jul 14 2007, 11:45 PM
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should get shebby singh to be director of football... and hold auditions for national team like he did for MyTeam. HECK! Myteam almost beat malaysia team... and was very strong in the league this year....
like shebby said "malaysia's best 11 is not playing for malaysia!" i totally agree! |
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Jul 14 2007, 11:55 PM
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i just don't understand this people.. m'sia used to be so good those days... in the 70's they've beaten arsenal fc 2-0... but ever since,we've been performing like crap. we should really look before and see where we used to stand and how we used to play... the upcoming myteam2 is gonna go against indonesia... lets see if they can perform better than the national squad and just replace the wholde squad... but what makes me sad is tht once a national player is off duty and plays for league... their standard would drop because ther's where malaysia league stands... have you seen international players... they become better when they play from their own league to more challengin leagues around the world... lok at drogba... do you think he would be a superstar if he plays in his own ivory league and perform such during world cup or other tournaments.. playes playing in good leagues is very important cause there's where they mature and learn... if you realize beckham has really improved his game playin for madrid... his pace and skills. another example is c.ronaldo, look how he played when he first came to man.utd .. full of skills but too personal until we got bored caus it's the same thing and he losses the ball... tht was how he played for his club back in portugal,maybe his personal skills worked there but it just doesn't work in epl cause the defenders are rougher and you need to play as a team.... look at how's he matured now.. more passes rather than being a show off... playing in a good league is very important before performing for a country...
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Jul 14 2007, 11:57 PM
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Of cause that not the best 11. Those are the same faces that bring shame to all malaysia again and again.
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Jul 14 2007, 11:59 PM
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THE PROBLEm IS... WE GOT 2 MANY LEAGUES... AND THAT'S 1 too much already... Super League... M-League... Piala Malaysia... then got divisions... how many divisions u want la??? 14 teams also hard to be competitive...
yeah.. same faces... never improve... should have a law against them... Any players who disgrace malaysia should be banned from leagues. hehehe This post has been edited by sakaito: Jul 15 2007, 12:00 AM |
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Jul 15 2007, 12:04 AM
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Malaysia is like Faroes Island from Europe. Very very tiny footballing nation but always shiok sendiri.
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Jul 15 2007, 12:07 AM
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what im saying is tht we need to send players to play outside... screw the m'sian league... does anyone here watches m'sian league..??? i don't give a rats ass bout this league....im more well informed bout epl and la liga rather than M-league... perhaps start out with indonesian league or thai league... their league is much faster pace than ours... but then i know it's not tht easy as well..
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Jul 15 2007, 12:12 AM
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Jul 15 2007, 12:18 AM
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Didn't Malaysia able to participate in this Asian Cup is due to we are the host. Else dream on.
But our team is important in our group. We determine who gets to quater if the remaining team tie in points. |
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Jul 15 2007, 12:22 AM
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hahahahha.. but if the next team also beat us 5-0... how now? hehehe
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Jul 15 2007, 12:23 AM
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The problem is with the BIG BOSS of FAM lar... they are POLO players... not football player....
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Jul 15 2007, 12:24 AM
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Dun compare Malaysia to Faroe Islands lah. Coz now I dare not say we're even their standard
Samy V! Kasi tolong tutup all the leaks in Malaysian defence! Sudah manyak bocor lah. |
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Jul 15 2007, 12:32 AM
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since the father and son took over the FAM.... i think they should changed it to POLO Association instead of football... as from giants of asia to giants of south-east asia and now midgets of south east asia....
i am so jealous to see indonesia, thailand and singapore doing such i great job in football..... |
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Jul 15 2007, 12:34 AM
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zzzzz all bunch of kids or whiner, they lose 5-0 is expected from me. This is Malaysia, what u expect? Eventho we are host nation what much different does it mean? EVEN Venezuela lose to Uruguay 4-1 at home ground at Copa America. BTW Malaysia consider lucky to lose only 5-0. From the look of it, i taught going 7-0 or 8-0
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Jul 15 2007, 12:45 AM
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QUOTE(kanishen18 @ Jul 15 2007, 12:07 AM) what im saying is tht we need to send players to play outside... screw the m'sian league... does anyone here watches m'sian league..??? i don't give a rats ass bout this league....im more well informed bout epl and la liga rather than M-league... perhaps start out with indonesian league or thai league... their league is much faster pace than ours... but then i know it's not tht easy as well.. i'm watching M-League. but those in malaysian team, well most of them are not the best 11 from M-League. |
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Jul 15 2007, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE(sakaito @ Jul 14 2007, 04:59 PM) THE PROBLEm IS... WE GOT 2 MANY LEAGUES... AND THAT'S 1 too much already... Super League... M-League... Piala Malaysia... then got divisions... how many divisions u want la??? 14 teams also hard to be competitive... Do you know about our local football or not? We've got only 2 major leagues, the Super League is like the EPL, and the Premier League is like the Championship in England. The Super League is supposed to be more competitive and more entertaining as it got the best team in Malaysia but sadly the quality for both leagues is the same (low Q). Then we have the FA Cup, like in England and the Piala Malaysia, the more prestigious cup than any other competition in the country. For me with these league & cup format it should provide enough competition for the players.yeah.. same faces... never improve... should have a law against them... Any players who disgrace malaysia should be banned from leagues. hehehe QUOTE(kanishen18 @ Jul 14 2007, 05:07 PM) what im saying is tht we need to send players to play outside... screw the m'sian league... does anyone here watches m'sian league..??? i don't give a rats ass bout this league....im more well informed bout epl and la liga rather than M-league... perhaps start out with indonesian league or thai league... their league is much faster pace than ours... but then i know it's not tht easy as well.. I used to watch the M-League and even before it was called the M-League. Back then it was very entertaining. But now if like you said we need to send the players to play outside, which country do you want? Brazil? England? To be honest the current 'professional' players we have in our league are crap, and I think they won't even make it in a Sunday League team in England. We have good schoolboys (eg. U-12 Danone Cup team) but when they grew up they became crap. Whose fault is this? FAM didn't polish the kids properly. With loads of money from their budget they should learn from the likes of Arsenal on how to coach schoolkids. They should improve the training facilities, get top coaches around the world to teach them etc, NOT spending those money to go to Europe for friendlies. Europe are years ahead of us; we go there and kena belasah & get home malu la wei FAM. Why not make friendlies with other SEA or Asian teams? Cheaper also. Then the national team have the tendency to kumpul all the players like a month or two before a tourney, how can they develop understanding with each other? Look at the European nations, they have friendlies for every what, 2months? That's good for the nations to find new players who can play for the national team as well as trying new formations and see how it works. These things are not rocket sciences even a mat rempit can also tell you how to make the footbal in this country better. I will be surprised if none of the FAM committee resigns. Things need to be changed, like the song Wind of Change. I like that song man. Until then "Qualify for World Cup 20xx my @ss" |
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Jul 15 2007, 12:55 AM
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stupid!what a disgrace!!mmg nampak macam tak reti main bola langsung...tak pernah control game..midfield dpt bola tak tau ape nak buat..Vietnam,Thailand & Indonesia boleh main lg bagus walaupun diorang standard kite aje..FAM bubar!!!!jom ramai2 wat demonstrasi!@$!@$!$!@%
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QUOTE(erni3 @ Jul 14 2007, 05:41 PM) zzzzz all bunch of kids or whiner, they lose 5-0 is expected from me. This is Malaysia, what u expect? Eventho we are host nation what much different does it mean? EVEN Venezuela lose to Uruguay 4-1 at home ground at Copa America. BTW Malaysia consider lucky to lose only 5-0. From the look of it, i taught going 7-0 or 8-0 Dude at least Venezuela reached the 2nd round of the competition (Quarter Final). They have never ever done that before. That's one of the advantages of being the host nation, you get the slight favourite tag because you have the home crowd cheering plus the semangat to play well in homeland. At least for Malaysia if they want to kalah pun then lose la 2-1 or 2-0 ke not 5-0 and 5-1. That's embarassing man. Even if I play Pro Evo I don't want to kalah 5-0, 3-0 pun already malu. Common sense. But then on the bright side it's better losing 5-0 than 7 or 8 nil. Always look on the bright side in life, like the Nike ad song. |
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Jul 15 2007, 01:08 AM
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i m trying to be sarcastic here. Imagine u paid Rm20 to watch host nation. After 5-1 and FAM promise better performance next game. I am all hype up for that match, but end result 5-0 even worse. Next match i m going also but to add salt to Malaysia wound. I will be supporting Iran and sit with their fans instead. Boooooooooooooo Malaysia. Malaysia Boleh......Boleh tanam jagung
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Jul 15 2007, 01:18 AM
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malaysia,malaysia,malaysia..
dunt noe wat hapen laa to this team... maybe we're unlucky to be in the group with china,iran n uzbekistan... i guess maybe the players are demoralized when they've been hit 2-0 in 30 minutes... for me,AZIZON our GK is the most stupidest keeper malaysia had.. siyesly SENGAL... he's acted like he's never play football... come on la.... i really hate h*m... he made our players got no mood n desire to play.... |
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Jul 15 2007, 01:19 AM
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QUOTE(SweetPuff @ Jul 15 2007, 12:24 AM) Dun compare Malaysia to Faroe Islands lah. Coz now I dare not say we're even their standard Hey bro..dun ask SaMy V la...later he go and build a tunnel. Easy for the opponent to score more goals! Samy V! Kasi tolong tutup all the leaks in Malaysian defence! Sudah manyak bocor lah. |
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Jul 15 2007, 02:03 AM
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we were far better during the semi-pro era..sigh
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Jul 15 2007, 02:09 AM
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Seriously; if the bookies offer less than 3 goal handicap for betting against Malaysia; take the opposite team. Sure win betting wan. Look at it this way; things will not change wan larr. At least can earn some money from betting.
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Jul 15 2007, 02:31 AM
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QUOTE(ryansxs @ Jul 15 2007, 01:19 AM) Hey bro..dun ask SaMy V la...later he go and build a tunnel. Easy for the opponent to score more goals! Ya hor. Defence Malaysia tiap-tiap match pun bocor.If the ppl in FAM have any dignity left, they should just resign lar. Just send our Under18 or Under16 for all upcoming national team matches. At least I know they'll give their best. Even if the scoreline is more than 5-0. I'm still upset that we just give up the match without a fight. Any team that plays Msia now will be going in to get good goal difference. The current national team is a national embarassment. This post has been edited by SweetPuff: Jul 15 2007, 02:32 AM |
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Jul 15 2007, 02:34 AM
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To be honest; they did that 5 years ago; when the scandal about the match-rigging came out. They proclaimed that they'll be blooding the U-23s from then onwards and the U-23s would be our saviours in 5 years time.
Fast forward to today. I suspect more money flushed down the toilet bowl. I wonder how many million starving people we could have fed.... |
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Jul 15 2007, 02:34 AM
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Under-12 more promising. Can draw with Argentina summore
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Jul 15 2007, 02:36 AM
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Jul 15 2007, 02:50 AM
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QUOTE(skod @ Jul 15 2007, 02:03 AM) I don't think we are even at the amatuer level, man. I never watch any of M'sia matches in this AFC Tournament but when I saw the result, I felt very dissapointed by the goals that they conceded. 1-5 & 5-0, what are they trying to prove? How pathetic are Malaysia? Where is our Malaysian pride? What a pathetic performance by the our national football team. What's next, how many goals they wanna concede in the next game? 0-50? Our 50th Independant Day, a good memory to be remember? |
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Jul 15 2007, 02:52 AM
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should this thread title be 'malaysia national team.. hopeless'? obviously the football club is better..
nvm.. now the whole world know that our team cant play football welldone FAM.. target achieved! |
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Jul 15 2007, 02:55 AM
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how can you compare with faroe island?..its not even a country its just a small island, malaysia is bigger, population much2 more than them.. and malaysia is host remember!
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Jul 15 2007, 02:55 AM
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I believe, if Perak/Selangor or even Polis can beat national team. Btw, who won Division 1? Not myteam if i'm not mistaken.
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Jul 15 2007, 03:01 AM
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QUOTE(glozz @ Jul 15 2007, 02:09 AM) Seriously; if the bookies offer less than 3 goal handicap for betting against Malaysia; take the opposite team. Sure win betting wan. Look at it this way; things will not change wan larr. At least can earn some money from betting. I think bookie oso no dare open market for it lor..maybe 5 goals, u wan eat ar?? |
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Jul 15 2007, 03:12 AM
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Ya man. Dun insult Faroe Islands by comparing them to Malaysia. Coz we pump loads of money into football and got crap in return.
Current national players and FAM management should all publicly apologize and step down. |
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Jul 15 2007, 03:15 AM
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No need to blame FAM. Just admit that we have poor footballers bah. Even these bunch of players represent Brazil, Brazil will also kena bungkus.
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Jul 15 2007, 03:51 AM
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FAM is to be blamed... imagine from the era of giants->midgets!!!!! i bet even at any club level there will be a revamp in the whole management..... but no!!!!!!!!!!!! that father and son still there.... really an insult to all malaysian football fans lar....
look at indonesia.... during the 80s.... who are them??? now giants killer....not that we dont wanna support our national team as crazy as indonesian... but who wanna support LOSERS...... the big loser is FAM... even the sports minister dare not to touch FAM because of the powerful father and son.... what a disgrace.... one day for sure we will end up the the weakest team in South East Asia...... This post has been edited by plkvoon: Jul 15 2007, 03:53 AM |
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i really wonder what's on newspaper tomorrow morning... seiorusly im running out of comments... but even you change the board members.. do you think tht our football quality is gonna change tht much??? of course if we bring those 2 big family horses of thier seats would you really think we can go far with this national team... the national team really can't play... i don't know if you change players tht would work or not... but it seems tht the team chemisrty is just not right... when comes to football you need through passes and overlapping.. but tht just doesn't work in this squad.. if you could remember one of the players wasted a good ball which came high but instead of stopping and proceeding from the midfield... he gave a shot from the midfield.. they just wastes chances and m'sian players seriously look small and frail .. even uzbekistan players are lean and tall but they are really though lookin guys..
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Jul 15 2007, 06:52 AM
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Jul 15 2007, 09:15 AM
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Iraq also can win Australia by 3-1, it is good result ad....Malaysia really disgraced...Why Malaysia Football Association no chinese 1?
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Jul 15 2007, 09:28 AM
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Jul 15 2007, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(teeque @ Jul 15 2007, 06:52 AM) we ARE the weakest team in s.e.a now!!! yes, if those sochai play against laos, cambodia, filipina, they will still struggle like hell 1 ...and to think, we were once one of the strongest team in Asia a long time back.... Added on July 15, 2007, 9:34 am QUOTE(Ranny @ Jul 15 2007, 03:15 AM) No need to blame FAM. Just admit that we have poor footballers bah. Even these bunch of players represent Brazil, Brazil will also kena bungkus. fren, FAM that responsible for the development of football in this country ...This post has been edited by hk_loo: Jul 15 2007, 09:34 AM |
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Jul 15 2007, 09:51 AM
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I think we should go back to semi-pro era. There will then be bigger pool of players to choose from. And sack that 2 fater and son too.
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Jul 15 2007, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(MyDevil @ Jul 15 2007, 09:51 AM) I think we should go back to semi-pro era. There will then be bigger pool of players to choose from. And sack that 2 fater and son too. semi-pro era?? i miss semi-pro league |
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Jul 15 2007, 10:50 AM
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im just still happy msia still ahead of NZ in world ranking...
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Jul 15 2007, 11:02 AM
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These results may actually be a good thing...so they will get serious in revamping the system.
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Jul 15 2007, 11:14 AM
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Jul 15 2007, 11:21 AM
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you donno how much it hurt inside when i get to know the result! man MALAYSIA is seriously sucks man! dont get mad at us if we supports Argentina,Brazil,etc! harap jersey&boots jer mahal!
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Jul 15 2007, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(jdreamer @ Jul 15 2007, 11:14 AM) no..ever since the laos 1-0 win over us in 1997...10 years already...we still struggle like hell when play against those minor ....FAM only expert in revamp the league, revamp countless time d ... if revamp league can improve a country, then england/spain should have won the world cup many times d... cut the salary of the players playing for the clubs, tell them, u play well only deserve more... if i can earn average RM3k a month playing for club football, then win some FA cup or malaysia get extra bonus, why should i improve to play well for the national squad?, in fact, i hope the coach dun choose me so i can concentrate on club football... |
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Jul 15 2007, 11:32 AM
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The entire FAM Board should resign en bloc and new ppl with true passion as well as knowledge about the sport be appointed...
And as for our REALLY hopeless local players, are they too chicken to play overseas? Come on lah, it doesn't have to be the top leagues, as this is an almost impossible task for our so-called "League Stars" to accomplish (although it would have been nice to see Akmal Rizal scoring for MU First Tam, like in my Football Manager Game And how about Titus James, the chap playing in France? How come he has not been considered for the national team? Haven't heard from him for some time actually, though... |
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Jul 15 2007, 11:36 AM
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Titus rather opts for France PR rather than coming back to Malaysia Boleh Land. Seem to be a Right choice he make already. Not even an Indian or Chinese in the first 11. Actually this whole Asian Cup think is like a joke to Malaysian. I hope next game against Iran dun 5 goal again happy already
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Jul 15 2007, 11:43 AM
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Embarrassing is more like it.
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Jul 15 2007, 11:45 AM
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eh, considered good already la, at least got score one goal in the first match u know... i expected goal difference at the end of group stage -15 to -17 already
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Jul 15 2007, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(erni3 @ Jul 15 2007, 11:36 AM) Titus rather opts for France PR rather than coming back to Malaysia Boleh Land. Seem to be a Right choice he make already. Not even an Indian or Chinese in the first 11. Actually this whole Asian Cup think is like a joke to Malaysian. I hope next game against Iran dun 5 goal again happy already won't be 5, but 6 |
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Titus wont even get a place in France B yet alone national team. our best arent that good anyway
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Jul 15 2007, 11:52 AM
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Jul 15 2007, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(FauxHawk @ Jul 15 2007, 11:45 AM) eh, considered good already la, at least got score one goal in the first match u know... i expected goal difference at the end of group stage -15 to -17 already By the way they play, it is gonna happen soon.QUOTE(glozz @ Jul 15 2007, 11:52 AM) According to Wiki; we played a friendly against NZ and lost 1-0. Is there ANYONE OUT THERE we cannot lose to? MALAYSIA BOLEHHHH!!!!! Our national team VS kids? Maybe they can win.This post has been edited by DaGlue: Jul 15 2007, 11:58 AM |
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Jul 15 2007, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Jul 15 2007, 11:45 AM) yes, i believe france now got thousands youth of titus calibre ...titus need to be the wonder kid like owen last time in order to impress ... but ... |
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Jul 15 2007, 12:22 PM
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Iraq are playing way better than Malaysia.
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Jul 15 2007, 12:24 PM
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Jul 15 2007, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(easypeasy @ Jul 15 2007, 12:49 AM) Do you know about our local football or not? We've got only 2 major leagues, the Super League is like the EPL, and the Premier League is like the Championship in England. The Super League is supposed to be more competitive and more entertaining as it got the best team in Malaysia but sadly the quality for both leagues is the same (low Q). Then we have the FA Cup, like in England and the Piala Malaysia, the more prestigious cup than any other competition in the country. For me with these league & cup format it should provide enough competition for the players. They got no money lar... all the money they got all "missing in action" aldI used to watch the M-League and even before it was called the M-League. Back then it was very entertaining. But now if like you said we need to send the players to play outside, which country do you want? Brazil? England? To be honest the current 'professional' players we have in our league are crap, and I think they won't even make it in a Sunday League team in England. We have good schoolboys (eg. U-12 Danone Cup team) but when they grew up they became crap. Whose fault is this? FAM didn't polish the kids properly. With loads of money from their budget they should learn from the likes of Arsenal on how to coach schoolkids. They should improve the training facilities, get top coaches around the world to teach them etc, NOT spending those money to go to Europe for friendlies. Europe are years ahead of us; we go there and kena belasah & get home malu la wei FAM. Why not make friendlies with other SEA or Asian teams? Cheaper also. Then the national team have the tendency to kumpul all the players like a month or two before a tourney, how can they develop understanding with each other? Look at the European nations, they have friendlies for every what, 2months? That's good for the nations to find new players who can play for the national team as well as trying new formations and see how it works. These things are not rocket sciences even a mat rempit can also tell you how to make the footbal in this country better. I will be surprised if none of the FAM committee resigns. Things need to be changed, like the song Wind of Change. I like that song man. Until then "Qualify for World Cup 20xx my @ss" Added on July 15, 2007, 12:30 pmThe reason Malaysia football has no quality is because the current FAM has no knowledge of football. If the result happen to be England, the english will demand their FA to resign already. Here in Malaysia, no one dare to question FAM... cause they rule the football$$$... This post has been edited by hocksoo: Jul 15 2007, 12:30 PM |
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Jul 15 2007, 01:07 PM
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it's malaysia again.. on the front page for the wrong reason.
i cant understand the way they play... coach says we lost to a better team.. looks like.. the whole world is better than us... |
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Jul 15 2007, 01:22 PM
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Iran 10 Malaysia 0 this wednesday
after this Cambodia and Brunei(the only ASEAN nations yet to beat us) will beat Malaysia SEA GAMES 2007: Cambodia 4-0 Malaysia Brunei 3-0 Malaysia |
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Jul 15 2007, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(PrinceOfPersia @ Jul 15 2007, 10:42 AM) semi-pro era?? i miss semi-pro league yeah, nasir yusoff, Mustpha Kamal, and those wonderful kedah strikers...Now, we got monkey and clowns only...sigh.. |
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Jul 15 2007, 03:03 PM
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I miss the semi-pro days as well. Malek Awab, K. Kannan, Affendi Julaihi, P. Ravindran aka Kinta Express!, Lim Teong Kim, Lee Kin Hong, Ong Yu Tiang, Yap Wai Loon, Azman Adnan etc. That was the last time I felt patriotic towards our football team.
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Jul 15 2007, 03:21 PM
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Luckily ManUtd didn't play with Malaysia....if got, the result might be ManUtd 20 - 0 Malaysia...lol
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Jul 15 2007, 04:17 PM
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i still dun understand why our players are playing the way they are..ive totally lost interest in watching them play after the match last night..poor ball control..lazy players all around the field..mentally weak...indra putra was our best player on the field..the only one threatening the uzbek defence..we dun have a decent striker since hairuddins form dipped below par..arent those people at FAM embarassed or anything?the whole populationis calling for their heads and still they dun wnant to step down??
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Jul 15 2007, 04:23 PM
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i just heard from berita terkini tv3, tungku abdullah has resigned from deputy president of fam
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Jul 15 2007, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(areankim @ Jul 15 2007, 01:07 PM) it's malaysia again.. on the front page for the wrong reason. The coach should just step down instead of giving lame reasons all the time. It's as if he's saying "Oh, we expected this". For goodness sake. i cant understand the way they play... coach says we lost to a better team.. looks like.. the whole world is better than us... We really did not merit to be in this tournament. We should have just not entered our team into this tournament and instead just let the AFC use our stadiums. |
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Jul 15 2007, 05:09 PM
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Jul 15 2007, 05:22 PM
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watch bits and pieces of the match against Uzbekistan, was glad that I only saw bits and pieces, the thing is that I don't understand what the team is trying to prove, against superior opponents, they are still trying to play 4 - 4 - 2. Trying to break them or stetch them wide when clearly we were trying just to keep up. They should've gone for a 4 - 5 - 1, or even 4 - 6 - 0, just to keep them at bay, and hopefully sneak a goal. We are already smaller than them in sizes, trying to cope with their strength and speed as well as skills is an absolute mismatch.
I think the national team need to rethink what has gone wrong, they should just pull out of each and every tournament just to avoid the embarrassment. Indonesia were no where 15 years ago, now they were right up there in the mix with the big boys of the region. That is what I call improvement. we have a so called professional league going on, but the fact is that despite so much football on the TV, from all over the world, they fail to learn anything tactically or technically, sorry sight to behold. |
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Jul 15 2007, 05:28 PM
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Jul 15 2007, 05:38 PM
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He's father will step down soon, just got the gut feeling he will...
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Jul 15 2007, 06:00 PM
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MALAYSIA MMG BOLEH...continue the losing streak n happily celebrate the 50's annivesary....
and also those who leeching the money frm FAM and do nothin to improve the quality is jz,a bunch of faggots..... This post has been edited by ChubbyWasabi: Jul 15 2007, 06:00 PM |
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Jul 15 2007, 06:03 PM
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after all has stepped down, the rebuilding of the national team will get started.
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Jul 15 2007, 06:12 PM
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The way Malaysia team is playing is so comedic it's gettin funnier than Mr.Bean or something.,..
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Jul 15 2007, 06:13 PM
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Mr.bean i think can play better football than the whole m'sian team,haha!!
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Jul 15 2007, 07:53 PM
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Jul 15 2007, 08:12 PM
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they all (our football players) are skilled actually, but lack of discipline and tactical.. not forgotten the never-say-die spirit
every time i watch them i feel like they just like cover macho only hair also want rebonding |
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Jul 15 2007, 08:44 PM
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i think he's protecting his fatha..or his pop using him as a scapegoat da..
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Jul 15 2007, 08:54 PM
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haih!! althoug i use Celcom, the power is still not in my hand. very geram. bad attitude shown by the player. if the attitude doesnt change.. no matter who wear the national jersey will continue to lost
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Jul 15 2007, 09:08 PM
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Haiya, our current football generation is jialat already... The hope is all on the youngsters of today, who will hopefully lift Malaysian soccer out of the doldrums in the not-so-distant future...
And since the TM has resigned, lets hope for his father as well as the bald crap Ibrahim Saad to follow suit... Oh ya, and not forgetting the other botak faggot Norizan Bakar (looks like he really kena "bakar" this time) also! This post has been edited by THT United Gadgets: Jul 15 2007, 09:09 PM |
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Jul 15 2007, 09:11 PM
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Malaysia football is only for Malaysia scene.
The only way Malaysia football team can participate in the internation scene is as audience. |
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Jul 15 2007, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(THT United Gadgets @ Jul 15 2007, 09:08 PM) Haiya, our current football generation is jialat already... The hope is all on the youngsters of today, who will hopefully lift Malaysian soccer out of the doldrums in the not-so-distant future... I'll be very surprised if Norizan Bakar doesn't resign or quit. But hey, this is Malaysia, where politics run the sport. Anything can happen.And since the TM has resigned, lets hope for his father as well as the bald crap Ibrahim Saad to follow suit... Oh ya, and not forgetting the other botak faggot Norizan Bakar (looks like he really kena "bakar" this time) also! |
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Jul 15 2007, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE(chua @ Jul 15 2007, 09:11 PM) Malaysia football is only for Malaysia scene. Or maybe as host of the stadium where the match is being played... Hey, we're often known as the "Gracious Hosts" when it comes to international sporting events ya? The only way Malaysia football team can participate in the internation scene is as audience. |
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Jul 15 2007, 09:45 PM
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If we were furniture, we would be a doormat. As it is the world is trampling all over us while wiping their feet.
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Jul 15 2007, 09:48 PM
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Better la if we just disband the national team and disband our local football league..
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Jul 15 2007, 09:49 PM
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Well, it is time for the boys to show some semblance of pride. What happens during the next game (against an Iran side desperate to boost their goal difference, isn't it) will be a good indicator of the future of Malaysian football.
a) Will we roll over and get steamrolled 6, 7 nil? Or will we finally b) Put up a decent show and at least exit with some pride? |
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Jul 15 2007, 10:11 PM
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the last match against the regular world cup finalist...
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Jul 15 2007, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 15 2007, 09:49 PM) Well, it is time for the boys to show some semblance of pride. What happens during the next game (against an Iran side desperate to boost their goal difference, isn't it) will be a good indicator of the future of Malaysian football. I'm going with a)a) Will we roll over and get steamrolled 6, 7 nil? Or will we finally b) Put up a decent show and at least exit with some pride? |
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Jul 15 2007, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 15 2007, 09:49 PM) Well, it is time for the boys to show some semblance of pride. What happens during the next game (against an Iran side desperate to boost their goal difference, isn't it) will be a good indicator of the future of Malaysian football. Going with a) as well. I have no confidence that they will even put up a half-decent performance.a) Will we roll over and get steamrolled 6, 7 nil? Or will we finally b) Put up a decent show and at least exit with some pride? |
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Jul 15 2007, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 15 2007, 09:49 PM) Well, it is time for the boys to show some semblance of pride. What happens during the next game (against an Iran side desperate to boost their goal difference, isn't it) will be a good indicator of the future of Malaysian football. I pick a). We're going to set a record in this competition for conceding the most goals as a host.a) Will we roll over and get steamrolled 6, 7 nil? Or will we finally b) Put up a decent show and at least exit with some pride? |
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Jul 15 2007, 10:26 PM
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with iran sure kena lagi teruk 1 !
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Jul 15 2007, 10:48 PM
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The FAM deputy president have resigned so all the other bozo's should realize what they have to do.
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Jul 15 2007, 10:55 PM
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big A for me too
expect another 5, 6 or 7 nil thrashing. I'm sad when my favourite club lost but I'm damn happy when my country kena thrash.. don't know why I got this feeling |
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Jul 15 2007, 11:46 PM
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Jul 15 2007, 11:53 PM
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me vote for A also..........
allways give empty promise........ after game give 1000 excuse...... after this i hope Malaysia will get to host World Cup then we can enjoy seeing Malaysia got thrash 20 or 30 goals...... damm this national team........how they still have the pride to wear the national colours.......i wonder why nike interested in our team......maybe the jersey buy from Petaling Street...... and the fashion...... who cares with ur look........ we dont want to see ur 'beauty faces'.......we want to see skill...... maybe all the wages r spent in beauty shops.....saloon......mamak stall..... |
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Jul 16 2007, 12:00 AM
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Who was the previous Malaysian coach?
Vote him back! |
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Jul 16 2007, 12:01 AM
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im going with b)
we r going to beat the iranians, expect very hard game this time and maybe bloody and tackles flying everywhere, lots of yellow and red cards.. final score malaysia 2 iran 1 malaysia confirm semifinal. |
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Jul 16 2007, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE(MumOX @ Jul 16 2007, 12:01 AM) im going with b) are u sure? that'll be nuts ler... if like that aaa.. i think at least 3 red, 4 or 5 yellows to malaysia. hehehewe r going to beat the iranians, expect very hard game this time and maybe bloody and tackles flying everywhere, lots of yellow and red cards.. final score malaysia 2 iran 1 malaysia confirm semifinal. QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jul 15 2007, 03:03 PM) I miss the semi-pro days as well. Malek Awab, K. Kannan, Affendi Julaihi, P. Ravindran aka Kinta Express!, Lim Teong Kim, Lee Kin Hong, Ong Yu Tiang, Yap Wai Loon, Azman Adnan etc. That was the last time I felt patriotic towards our football team. semi-pro era?? i miss semi-pro league , i miss Boban, Alistair Edwards, Khalid Shahdan, Abbas Saad, Piyapong, Pradhupan, Salehan Md Som, Fandi Ahmad, Dollah, Azizul Abu Haniffah, Sundramoorthy etc oo yes... glory days.... u forgot Malek Rahman... Subadron Aziz... Rashid Hassan... Annuar abu bakar... zoran nikolic... argh!!! |
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i'am thinking of A.
ATTENTION!!!! To all malaysia fans that will be going to bukit jalil to watch malaysia vs iran, i want to request from u all to wear baju hitam or black shirt to support the protest to FAM. BLACK PARADE!! the protest started during the malaysia uzbeks match which the result is quiet decent since we got coverage from tv3 before the match, and from RTM after the match, again tv3 show our banner and flyers in their news. the star also put a picture of our banner in the sportsection sunday newspaper. there were about 3 or 4 banners that were hang during the game against uzbeks. so, i hope we as the fans who still love our national football deep own in our heart to come and support the black parade this tuesday. hopefully, our little protest will be the pioneer to a revolution of football in our country for the future. dont forget to tell ur mate and family who r going to wear black shirt alright. thanks for reading. Lets REVIVE the football in our country... |
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Jul 16 2007, 12:50 AM
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Jul 16 2007, 01:05 AM
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QUOTE(aimleeds @ Jul 16 2007, 12:44 AM) i'am thinking of A. You the man! Ill be there with black shirt! One down, another 4-5 bozo's will follow soon enough!!!! ATTENTION!!!! To all malaysia fans that will be going to bukit jalil to watch malaysia vs iran, i want to request from u all to wear baju hitam or black shirt to support the protest to FAM. BLACK PARADE!! the protest started during the malaysia uzbeks match which the result is quiet decent since we got coverage from tv3 before the match, and from RTM after the match, again tv3 show our banner and flyers in their news. the star also put a picture of our banner in the sportsection sunday newspaper. there were about 3 or 4 banners that were hang during the game against uzbeks. so, i hope we as the fans who still love our national football deep own in our heart to come and support the black parade this tuesday. hopefully, our little protest will be the pioneer to a revolution of football in our country for the future. dont forget to tell ur mate and family who r going to wear black shirt alright. thanks for reading. Lets REVIVE the football in our country... |
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Jul 16 2007, 01:22 AM
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pathethic..my prediction: Iran 6-0 Mas...
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Jul 16 2007, 01:32 AM
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MAS 0-5 China
Iran 2-2 China Iran=China (same level with) so can we assump that MAS 0-5 Ira? |
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Jul 16 2007, 01:35 AM
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^ no you cant. you should put AT LEAST 0-5
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Jul 16 2007, 01:36 AM
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i guess at least kena scored 5 goals above by iran.... What a sad result...
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Jul 16 2007, 04:19 AM
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wahahha,,malaysia team kena teruk..
dah la tu geng..kesian kat depa..dah kena teruk nii...dah la kena 5-0,kena plak kutuk ngn kita semua.. isk.isk..kesian.. DEPA MEMANG HAMPEH!!!MAIN MACAM tai***kk! This post has been edited by PGV3910: Jul 16 2007, 04:20 AM |
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Jul 16 2007, 04:21 AM
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Malaysia squad should give orphans or soccer reality show winner to play.
They more deserving..becaus in the end ...lost also(a bonus if can win lah!). But give something to the community.To those who really need. I.S should be kick out ages ago. |
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Jul 16 2007, 07:33 AM
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You see, those current squad is not from Kedah or perlis top team, is from Selangor,Telekom,melaka..... Maybe the coach thinking he use 2nd team also can win cup, WE ARE NOT BRAZIL !!!
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Jul 16 2007, 07:43 AM
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Is that true?
Who decides to sent the 2nd team? 'The Baldy'? This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Jul 16 2007, 07:48 AM |
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Jul 16 2007, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE(chyz66 @ Jul 16 2007, 07:33 AM) You see, those current squad is not from Kedah or perlis top team, is from Selangor,Telekom,melaka..... Maybe the coach thinking he use 2nd team also can win cup, WE ARE NOT BRAZIL !!! i thought is the same ... means players quality team in every team also same 1...only those who convert the chances more this year will win the league and cup... |
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Jul 16 2007, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE(chyz66 @ Jul 16 2007, 07:33 AM) You see, those current squad is not from Kedah or perlis top team, is from Selangor,Telekom,melaka..... Maybe the coach thinking he use 2nd team also can win cup, WE ARE NOT BRAZIL !!! Wrong... That was our 1st team... the so called "best" and "experienced" player available.... Why no players from the top 4 teams in Super League? Coz teams in MSL will never be consistent... Want example? Selangor won "treble" in 2005, but slump in 2006, NS Naza won Super League, Runners-up in Malaysia Cup, and Semi-Finalist in FA Cup (all in 2006) but slump in 2007.... and the big question is why this thing happen? Answer: Management team at fault... period.... P/S: I heard from friends that some of the Perlis/Kedah players refuse to play for Malaysia, saying "Buat ape aku main team macam tu".... think bout it.... |
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Jul 16 2007, 09:09 AM
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looks like against iran will be a whipping time for the national squad .
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Jul 16 2007, 09:24 AM
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Jul 16 2007, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE "Saya mengambil kesempatan untuk mengucapkan terima kasih kepada Setiausaha Agung FAM, Datuk Seri Dr. Ibrahim Saad dan seluruh kakitangan FAM yang telah memberikan kerjasama sepanjang perkhidmatan saya," ujar baginda dalam surat dua perenggan itu. Tengku Abdullah already resigned, BUT this mtoherfcuker is overseas?Ia ditandatangani oleh Setiausaha Peribadi baginda, Datuk Zainal Abidin Abu Bakar dan diberikan kepada Ibrahim. Menurut Husin, beliau menerima surat tersebut bagi pihak Ibrahim yang ketika ini berada di luar negara atas urusan peribadi. "Saya telah menerima surat ini daripada Zainal Abidin dan telah dimaklumkan kepada Ibrahim,'' ujar Husin ketika dihubungi hari ini. Bagaimanapun dalam surat tersebut, Tengku Abdullah tidak menyatakan secara terperinci sebab-sebab beliau meletakkan jawatan secara mengejut. for what? doing what? Fcuking whores?? |
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Jul 16 2007, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(Lone46 @ Jul 14 2007, 09:43 PM) I just watch finish that Malaysia home 0 vs 5 away Uzbekistan Not even FAM can do anything to sort this out. Even if you bring Guss Hiddink he will quit too. The mentality of the players are like children basically, whats the point actually complaining, we r smallbuilt we cant win or they are too good for us when there are many teams in the world who have smaller built players and are at least trying to win matches. Its rather disappointing. What kind of damn result? Always training for what?? One other thing is the induction of politics into the game. The intro of dato and tansri should be stopped. There should not be politics in anyform of sport and also extreme portrayals of the Muslim faith. |
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Jul 16 2007, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(hk_loo @ Jul 16 2007, 08:59 AM) i thought is the same ... means players quality team in every team also same 1...only those who convert the chances more this year will win the league and cup... The sad truth about malaysian football is, there is nothing such as consistency. You can be the league and FA Cup champion this year and next season u'll be struggling to even survive in the so-called top flight football. All also main nasib je... if your nasib baik this year, u win... if other team better next year, they win.... that's how it is in Malaysia. |
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Jul 16 2007, 10:19 AM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE Naib Presiden FAM, Datuk Raja Ahmad Zainuddin pula terkejut dengan keputusan Tengku Abdullah itu. "Saya tak sangka tindakan ini akan berlaku dan kami (Ahli Majlis FAM) tidak diberitahu," katanya. "Saya tak sangka" my a$$.. All u know is talk, talk and talk.. But all cr4p.. d4mn it. |
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Jul 16 2007, 10:28 AM
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i read that in the papers, if u asked one 12years old boy to name any one player from our national team, he cant but he can mention all the starting 11 of man utd, chelsea, arsenal...
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Jul 16 2007, 10:28 AM
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I believe to put most of the blame on TA is not totally correct , the whole system needs reform , if he is partly responsible then a whole lot of other " administrators need to say good bye also .
We ALREADY have a model of the success , it's not as if we were a bad team in the past . WTF ?? was one of the top teams in Asia ! and good match for anyone ! So FAM look to past model and you will find clues to success , and by God clues you most definitely need. |
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Jul 16 2007, 10:44 AM
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from utusan
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « What a joke, boleh sesuka hati nak cancel training This post has been edited by PrinceOfPersia: Jul 16 2007, 10:45 AM |
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Jul 16 2007, 10:51 AM
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the person who responsible is Ibrahim saad & Raja Ahmad Zainuddin, not Tengku Abdullah.
QUOTE Lokasi : dalam sebuah kelas di sekolah rendah Tahun : 2020 Subjek:sejarah,bab Bola Sepak. Cikgu: "Ali, siapakah Ibrahim Saad & Raja Ahmad Zainuddin. " Ali: Ibrahim Saad & Raja Ahmad Zainuddin merupakan pemusnah bola sepak malaysia & merupakan talibarut barat untuk menjatuhkan industri bolasepak malaysia ke tahap paling corot, dan rancangan barat ini akhirnya berjaya setelah Malaysia menduduki tangga ke 300 pada tahun 2010 melalui malaun dua ekoq nih. Mereka berdua masih hidup, skrg berada di rumah org tua2 kerana family mereka malu untuk menjaga mereka. Cikgu, Mereka berdua dihina sepanjang zaman!!! Kitaorang jadi kaki bangku ni pun sbb depa dua ekoq ni la cikgu! Added on July 16, 2007, 10:57 amA) Iran 7 - Malaysia 0. This post has been edited by nixk: Jul 16 2007, 10:57 AM |
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Jul 16 2007, 11:14 AM
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training or not also will get 5 eggs 1...
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Jul 16 2007, 11:18 AM
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I believe that the players have good individual skills.
What we need is a good management to put these individual skills together to actually form a formidable team. Not 11 good players running around the pitch not knowing what to do. |
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Jul 16 2007, 11:18 AM
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"We must face the reality that we can't go far with the present batch of national players. We must start grassroots development again."
some FAM official (i think, there's so many of them it's mind boggling) quoted in NST. WTF? So all our players (that you have incidently spent quite a fair bit on) are useless and you need to find millions to groom newbies... wake up and smell the coffee dudes, you are the pathetic ones, don't blame the players |
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Jul 16 2007, 11:20 AM
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Jul 16 2007, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(outsider @ Jul 14 2007, 10:27 PM) They can do anything since the Head of FAM is Sultan of Pahang and his son all England FA committee is those ex-footballer....but in Malaysia FAM is all in politician wondering what the hell politician know about football that why other country football team getting better and better but our malaysia getting poorer and poorer |
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Jul 16 2007, 11:33 AM
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Jul 16 2007, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(blinky @ Jul 16 2007, 11:18 AM) I believe that the players have good individual skills. spot on mate..except for the last part...i noticed that sum of our players were annoyingly walking when we were on the verge of a counter attack..but of course..the clearance ends up at the opponents feet..so why worry?What we need is a good management to put these individual skills together to actually form a formidable team. Not 11 good players running around the pitch not knowing what to do. lucky thing they cancelled training bcos of weather conditions..was cursing at them when i read the headlines..hehe..sorry malaysia.. |
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Jul 16 2007, 11:40 AM
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Found this in Berita Harian Online:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Big possibility that Ibrahim Saad will leave FAM after all.... Well, he has to... This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Jul 16 2007, 11:43 AM |
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Jul 16 2007, 11:45 AM
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After more than 20 years father and son leeching onto the FA... screwing up every possible development plan.. now they resign.... interesting.. showing resposibility eh? They should have resigned long time ago when the nation lost the 1984 Olympic Qualification.
The writing was on the wall back then with no quality coming through the ranks. Development at state sucks! They save 1 season and spend the next just to win honours at Malaysia Cup level. They have no F*cking interest in developing the game at School and Youth level. You see musical chairs being played by the "so called" top players going from state to state like mercenaries. National duty is one of a holiday break for them. The next person that comes in, well we will see if he needs to spend at least 10 years to develop the game at grassroot level. Not many people play the game now... no thanks to the "glamourous" publicity by FAM except by those kampung folks. Playing football you need: 1. Footballing brain 2. Skills 3. Mental toughness Our current crop of players cant even trap a ball nor string 3 passes around decently, let alone creating space with clever runs and with heads hung low after conceeding 1 goal... they have absolutely NONE OF THE ABOVE. |
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Jul 16 2007, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 16 2007, 11:18 AM) WTF? So all our players (that you have incidently spent quite a fair bit on) are useless and you need to find millions to groom newbies... wake up and smell the coffee dudes, you are the pathetic ones, don't blame the players Exactly. By this reckoning, should we ban our team from all international tournaments until they improve? That way, we won't slide even further down the world rankings |
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Jul 16 2007, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(Lone46 @ Jul 14 2007, 09:43 PM) I just watch finish that Malaysia home 0 vs 5 away Uzbekistan Well, could that be the celebrating result for 50th Independence? What kind of damn result? Always training for what?? They always train for the best, but the yummy nasi lemak & teh tarik cause them waste most [training] time to loose unwanted weight... Lastly, could this be the sign of "Malaysia Boleh"?? |
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Jul 16 2007, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(blinky @ Jul 16 2007, 11:18 AM) I believe that the players have good individual skills. excuse me, but we're far behind in term of stamina, let alone skills.What we need is a good management to put these individual skills together to actually form a formidable team. Not 11 good players running around the pitch not knowing what to do. let me emphasize, skills aren't just about dribbling, tackling, covering position and passing. as of any sports, football require instant brain reactions. what our player lack most was ability to read the game! in both matches, malaysian player looks out of positions, out of sorts, no marking and even the keeper hesitates to make the moves. no game reading ability! so, even if we hire the top coach, our footballers may only shows very minimal improvements. players no longer proud of representing the country. too much 'acting' in the pitch..... and they afraid of getting injured while playing for the country cuz' the may lose the bonus offered by their respective state teams. argh! boring. agree with the idea of forming a good management, but here in malaysia, those good management was a rarity. cuz' there is a politic everywhere! i missed those good ol' days when we used to beat south korea by 3 goals......... Added on July 16, 2007, 12:50 pm QUOTE(rhoyo @ Jul 16 2007, 09:09 AM) depends on the other results too but iran need to win big in case uzbekistan win against china on last match. so, 7 - 0 was a big probability.shame on malaysia football! Added on July 16, 2007, 12:52 pm QUOTE(Lone46 @ Jul 14 2007, 09:43 PM) I just watch finish that Malaysia home 0 vs 5 away Uzbekistan always training for fun lar..... players more interested in playing with state team. only answer the national calls cuz' they're afraid of getting ban. What kind of damn result? Always training for what?? maybe they 'pakat' already.... this is our 50th merdeka. so , kena 5 - 0 ngam2 looks like 50th ma This post has been edited by Samurai X: Jul 16 2007, 12:54 PM |
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Jul 16 2007, 12:54 PM
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We should also ban the pro league and pro local players from playing here. "You tak suka, you keluar!" .... hehehe
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Jul 16 2007, 12:54 PM
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Yeah, and when we had the real Malaysian League stars, those whose names can still be remembered even today (long after most of them have retired)... Who can forget names like these:
- Azman Adnan - Rusdi Suparman - Matlan Marjan - Halim Napi - Lim Teong Kim - Zainal Abidin Hassan - Hashim Mustapha - K. Gunalan - Radhi Mat Din - See Kim Seng - Ahmad Yusof - Malek Rahman - Azizul Kamaludin - Shamsurin Abdul Rahman - Shebby Singh - Affendi Julaihi - Foreigners who have helped in the popularity of the League such as Scott Ollerenshaw, Mehmet Durakovic, Emile Mbouh Mbouh, Merzagua Abderazzak, Darren Stewart, Alistair Edwards, Alan Davidson, and even Fandi Ahmad And a whole lot more that i can mention... Now who even bothers to remember the names of the current crop of national players, who don't even have the heart or pride to play for the country? This post has been edited by THT United Gadgets: Jul 16 2007, 12:57 PM |
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Jul 16 2007, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(Samurai X @ Jul 16 2007, 12:44 PM) ......... any possibility that the national team didn show up for the match?agree with the idea of forming a good management, but here in malaysia, those good management was a rarity. cuz' there is a politic everywhere! i missed those good ol' days when we used to beat south korea by 3 goals......... Added on July 16, 2007, 12:50 pm depends on the other results too but iran need to win big in case uzbekistan win against china on last match. so, 7 - 0 was a big probability. shame on malaysia football! Added on July 16, 2007, 12:52 pm always training for fun lar..... players more interested in playing with state team. only answer the national calls cuz' they're afraid of getting ban. maybe they 'pakat' already.... this is our 50th merdeka. so , kena 5 - 0 ngam2 looks like 50th ma |
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Jul 16 2007, 12:58 PM
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We can say the sambal in the daily nasi lemak was dodgy, all kena cirit birit and then we can officially pull out of the game, penalty 3-0 if i'm not mistaken.
But, seriously, I don't want that to happen, we will lose what little dignity we have left. |
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Jul 16 2007, 01:08 PM
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Jul 16 2007, 01:33 PM
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what i noticed during the uzbekistan match was the first goal..... i dunno if you guys notice or not....as the ball was going into the goal the keeper got time to scold the defender while trying to save the ball.....damn hilarious !....that is what you call being a professional ! lol !
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Jul 16 2007, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(RedSky21 @ Jul 16 2007, 01:33 PM) what i noticed during the uzbekistan match was the first goal..... i dunno if you guys notice or not....as the ball was going into the goal the keeper got time to scold the defender while trying to save the ball.....damn hilarious !....that is what you call being a professional ! lol ! nah... pro'fark'notrasional. |
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Jul 16 2007, 01:44 PM
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Lol Malaysia is feeder....With this kind of performance we wont see malaysia enter the world cup with our lifetime haha~ Support them??? I rather support "MY" team Lol !!!
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Jul 16 2007, 01:47 PM
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Eh, was there any Chinese players in the Malaysian squad?
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Jul 16 2007, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jul 16 2007, 11:45 AM) Exactly. By this reckoning, should we ban our team from all international tournaments until they improve? That way, we won't slide even further down the world rankings i think the players will be damn happy if the national team are banned ... so they can concentrate 100% on club football and earn more money ...actually i can't find any ways to improve the national squad already as long as the players attitude towards club football is not changed ... rombak FAM ? what for ? same type of person take charge send our youth go brazil ? hire fergie's type coach ? |
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Jul 16 2007, 01:50 PM
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dont forget to wear black shirt if any of u is thinking on going to watch the match at the stadium..
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Jul 16 2007, 01:54 PM
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Jul 16 2007, 01:56 PM
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For the sake of 50 years independence...Malaysia will make a hattrik...5-0 against Iran
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Jul 16 2007, 01:58 PM
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tengku abdullah penah main bola ke?... kaki bangku.... peletakkan jawatan adalah pengorbanan lepas dia dah lesapkan duit FAM..... good.... simpan org mcm ni lg terus teruk prestasi bola negara...
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Jul 16 2007, 02:00 PM
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i seriously think that we should import foreign players to play for our country for now.. not that our national players have no quality, but they are too 'blind' to play.. dunno what to do when they got the ball...
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Jul 16 2007, 02:00 PM
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Jul 16 2007, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(hk_loo @ Jul 16 2007, 02:00 PM) i hope is 10-0, so it will be 1 - 20 Yeah then at least ppl will remember M'sia football team what a record!!! can't be break for the next 10000 years in the history of asia cup or any cup final ... BTW any chance of Iran better their record win over Maldives? 17-0 if not mistaken |
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Jul 16 2007, 02:07 PM
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i don't think we are so teruk until 17-0... maldives we can still beat kwah?
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Jul 16 2007, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(hk_loo @ Jul 16 2007, 01:47 PM) i think the players will be damn happy if the national team are banned ... so they can concentrate 100% on club football and earn more money.... ..........our football at it's all time low. cannot! how are they going to show off? actually i can't find any ways to improve the national squad already as long as the players attitude towards club football is not changed ... malaysian players need to use their brain..more! rombak FAM ? what for ? same type of person take charge agree with this one, politic mah send our youth go brazil ? cannot lar bro, they will missed mommy's cooking. brazil where got nasi lemak,roti canai and rendang? hire fergie's type coach ? also will not works. this certain 'orang berpengaruh sikit' will call him and told him you will get fired if my son/relatives not entered into the 1st team list. even if he sucks big time in football. again, politic mah maybe malaysian football need some houdini's act nah...we already 'taruh kow-kow' on our national football team here. how about forming a LYF team and request a match against our national team? if FAM will ever entertain us in the 1st place just so that we're not be branded as...'cakap x serupa bikin'? This post has been edited by Samurai X: Jul 16 2007, 02:12 PM |
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QUOTE(zepple @ Jul 16 2007, 02:17 PM) hmm chinese players? not yet up to the mark, indian and malay the same too. Malaysians what do you expect? Put 11 chinese or 11 indian can win? Does it matter put who in the national team when there is politics involved? Not even a fare selection of footballer ever exist before, so what we can expect?BTW... does anyone forget to put this 10 goals as the most humiliating football match in the Malaysia Book of Records ? |
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QUOTE(pkiensing @ Jul 16 2007, 02:25 PM) Does it matter put who in the national team when there is politics involved? Not even a fare selection of footballer ever exist before, so what we can expect? agreed, there is never been a fair players selection in malaysia. Look at Bristish, nowadays more black players in the squad compare to many years ago.BTW... does anyone forget to put this 10 goals as the most humiliating football match in the Malaysia Book of Records ? |
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QUOTE(Spiv @ Jul 16 2007, 02:30 PM) Urghh, doesnt matter what rice, what matters is the cook, the damn cook. A good cook can make a plain rice into heavenly tasty dinner, not some overnite left over.Malaysia should be playing 10-0-0 to save stamina and try to save some face. Its not like when last time we do 0-0 with saudi arab because the sabah goally catch all the shots, we need all the legs and hands to prevent a goal now. |
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QUOTE(Grengo01 @ Jul 16 2007, 11:45 AM) After more than 20 years father and son leeching onto the FA... screwing up every possible development plan.. now they resign.... interesting.. showing resposibility eh? They should have resigned long time ago when the nation lost the 1984 Olympic Qualification. they have dribbling skills actually, but can only dribble past one opponent, then passing hancurThe writing was on the wall back then with no quality coming through the ranks. Development at state sucks! They save 1 season and spend the next just to win honours at Malaysia Cup level. They have no F*cking interest in developing the game at School and Youth level. You see musical chairs being played by the "so called" top players going from state to state like mercenaries. National duty is one of a holiday break for them. The next person that comes in, well we will see if he needs to spend at least 10 years to develop the game at grassroot level. Not many people play the game now... no thanks to the "glamourous" publicity by FAM except by those kampung folks. Playing football you need: 1. Footballing brain 2. Skills 3. Mental toughness Our current crop of players cant even trap a ball nor string 3 passes around decently, let alone creating space with clever runs and with heads hung low after conceeding 1 goal... they have absolutely NONE OF THE ABOVE. |
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Taken from chinapress : 5 factors on why Malaysia perform bad in AFC
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « aw man... how i long for those days... playing for glory... playing your hearts out... QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 16 2007, 11:18 AM) "We must face the reality that we can't go far with the present batch of national players. We must start grassroots development again." that's what they say 20 years ago... i'm still waiting...some FAM official (i think, there's so many of them it's mind boggling) quoted in NST. WTF? So all our players (that you have incidently spent quite a fair bit on) are useless and you need to find millions to groom newbies... wake up and smell the coffee dudes, you are the pathetic ones, don't blame the players |
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Jul 16 2007, 06:55 PM
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How long will FAM not understand? Becoz of them Malaysian lost it's supporters. The longer they stay, the less popular football has become. Evan local don't want to play for national team anymore.
In the words of Osim, "In my country FAM is muka tembok that ate kepala batu." |
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Actually people are too late in their complaints . 5-0 and 5-1 vs China and Uzbeckistan is not outside the realm of expectation.
We have been having this kind of result for the last 10-15 years , it should not be a surprise to anyone . China and Uzbeck are not p*u**ssy teams . If it is 5-0 vs say Singapore , then yeah you are all 100% justified. QUOTE(easypeasy @ Jul 15 2007, 12:49 AM) Do you know about our local football or not? We've got only 2 major leagues, the Super League is like the EPL, and the Premier League is like the Championship in England. The Super League is supposed to be more competitive and more entertaining as it got the best team in Malaysia but sadly the quality for both leagues is the same (low Q). Then we have the FA Cup, like in England and the Piala Malaysia, the more prestigious cup than any other competition in the country. For me with these league & cup format it should provide enough competition for the players. I agree and if you are in Bristol , you will certainly know what the " amateur " standard in UK is like - DAMN HIGH .I used to watch the M-League and even before it was called the M-League. Back then it was very entertaining. But now if like you said we need to send the players to play outside, which country do you want? Brazil? England? To be honest the current 'professional' players we have in our league are crap, and I think they won't even make it in a Sunday League team in England. We have good schoolboys (eg. U-12 Danone Cup team) but when they grew up they became crap. Whose fault is this? FAM didn't polish the kids properly. With loads of money from their budget they should learn from the likes of Arsenal on how to coach schoolkids. They should improve the training facilities, get top coaches around the world to teach them etc, NOT spending those money to go to Europe for friendlies. Europe are years ahead of us; we go there and kena belasah & get home malu la wei FAM. Why not make friendlies with other SEA or Asian teams? Cheaper also. Then the national team have the tendency to kumpul all the players like a month or two before a tourney, how can they develop understanding with each other? Look at the European nations, they have friendlies for every what, 2months? That's good for the nations to find new players who can play for the national team as well as trying new formations and see how it works. These things are not rocket sciences even a mat rempit can also tell you how to make the footbal in this country better. I will be surprised if none of the FAM committee resigns. Things need to be changed, like the song Wind of Change. I like that song man. Until then "Qualify for World Cup 20xx my @ss" I played in the MIddlesex county league , and apart from 1 day training plus 1 match a week , everyone I knew did their own training , I used to run 2-3 miles DAILY just to be fit enough to keep up with the play come match day . It was THAT intense , the UK jinjangs take this VERY VERY seriously and anyone who doesn't perform will get : 1) fcuked like sh1t 2) dropped no matter who you are . And " Amateur " footy in UK is harder then the pros coz the play is VERY rough , a lot of fouls aren't even given , and the pitches are sometimes real shit . We were only given transport costs and for injuries , nothing else . Everyone played for the love of the game , money kills the desire , which is what happened in Malaysia. So I agree with you , in this environment , our pampered pondan players won't last 2 weeks . Like you say no metal toughness. Now of course , if we had Mohktar , James Wong , Jamal Nasir , Bakri Ibni , Yip Chee keong etc and we sent them overseas for training . Fcuk me , we would be talking about WC qualification already . But we are light years away from that . the rest I agree with you . This post has been edited by Haunkiem: Jul 16 2007, 10:28 PM |
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QUOTE(Haunkiem @ Jul 16 2007, 10:25 PM) Actually people are too late in their complaints . 5-0 and 5-1 vs China and Uzbeckistan is not outside the realm of expectation. Actually, if we played well on those matches, had spirit and determination, losing by such a score also we won't bash so heavily.We have been having this kind of result for the last 10-15 years , it should not be a surprise to anyone . China and Uzbeck are not p*u**ssy teams . But what we saw on those two games was totally rubbish and unacceptable. We had a bunch of schoolgirls out there against 11 REAL football players. |
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Jul 16 2007, 11:08 PM
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Ok , then I guess be thankful we didn't lose by more .
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QUOTE(easypeasy @ Jul 15 2007, 12:49 AM) Do you know about our local football or not? We've got only 2 major leagues, the Super League is like the EPL, and the Premier League is like the Championship in England. The Super League is supposed to be more competitive and more entertaining as it got the best team in Malaysia but sadly the quality for both leagues is the same (low Q). Then we have the FA Cup, like in England and the Piala Malaysia, the more prestigious cup than any other competition in the country. For me with these league & cup format it should provide enough competition for the players. agree with u...still remember why they came out with super league...it a solution at the time b'coz they find out that our player played less game compare to other country's league...example england...so they make another league..that is Super League...so this will give the opportunity for our player to play more...always maintain their fitness...yadada yadada...QUOTE(easypeasy @ Jul 15 2007, 12:49 AM) I used to watch the M-League and even before it was called the M-League. Back then it was very entertaining. But now if like you said we need to send the players to play outside, which country do you want? Brazil? England? To be honest the current 'professional' players we have in our league are crap, and I think they won't even make it in a Sunday League team in England. malaysia's league use to enjoyable and interesting to watch...it used too...i think it goes along way back when i'm in primary school...now..i donno...when i watch few games...it so boring...malaysia's player doesn't seem to shine compare to the import player....QUOTE(easypeasy @ Jul 15 2007, 12:49 AM) We have good schoolboys (eg. U-12 Danone Cup team) but when they grew up they became crap. Whose fault is this? FAM didn't polish the kids properly. With loads of money from their budget they should learn from the likes of Arsenal on how to coach schoolkids. They should improve the training facilities, get top coaches around the world to teach them etc, NOT spending those money to go to Europe for friendlies. Europe are years ahead of us; we go there and kena belasah & get home malu la wei FAM. Why not make friendlies with other SEA or Asian teams? Cheaper also. Then the national team have the tendency to kumpul all the players like a month or two before a tourney, how can they develop understanding with each other? Look at the European nations, they have friendlies for every what, 2months? That's good for the nations to find new players who can play for the national team as well as trying new formations and see how it works. These things are not rocket sciences even a mat rempit can also tell you how to make the footbal in this country better. yeah...i think malaysia got lot of talents...for example..look at our junior team...they really good actually..at least there are still competitive...but mark my word, they going to face problem when they joining the senior team or when turning pro...all got screwed up...i donno what went wrong..if it not b'coz of our junior team...i don't think that malaysia can even beat myTeam...sure kalah...if i not mistaken...during that game...malaysia's team represent by mixed of senior and junior team... QUOTE(eskimore @ Jul 16 2007, 02:00 PM) i seriously think that we should import foreign players to play for our country for now.. not that our national players have no quality, but they are too 'blind' to play.. dunno what to do when they got the ball... yaa..if we want to see malaysia winning something and start our journey to world cup...give nationality...house..e'thing...and let them play for malaysia...hahahah... |
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Those naturalised foreigners sons could play well for the country! They got suitable genes like height and mascular mass. All we need is to train them. Imagine if USA doesn't have african immigrants...
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Jul 17 2007, 02:16 AM
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Malaysia players even lack proper technic in passing, distributing the ball and holding possesion properly....
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Jul 17 2007, 02:24 AM
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Yeah, and i love this thread!
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Actually u guys always kutuk Malaysian football, although i kutuk them myself.
YOU guys can also change Bolehland's appalling football scene. I am sure LYN are full of football tacticians, and even better pundits than Shebby. Talks bout formations, first 11, etc Just dont do the talking. Try to represent Malaysia. See if u really can walk the talks... Note: Myteam2 auditions are on going, especially with the revamp of FAM(Less politics) after this "CIRCUS". |
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Ibrahim pula letak jawatan
http://utusan.com.my/utusan/content.asp?y=...an&pg=su_06.htm » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Added on July 17, 2007, 5:13 amShahidan minat jawatan no. 2 FAM http://utusan.com.my/utusan/content.asp?y=...an&pg=su_09.htm » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I think he alredy held to many position already And he is politician. We dont want. This post has been edited by Azuma-kun: Jul 17 2007, 05:13 AM |
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Ibrahim resigned. Now let's hope for the better. As for players, better to have players with high individual skills. I bet there's talents like world class players among Malaysians...just need to find them and trained them to be better. As for Shahidan, an opportunist. Where got time to be MB and then manage FAM the same time. Unless he's Mr. Mohan This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Jul 17 2007, 07:40 AM |
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QUOTE(NasiLemakMan @ Jul 17 2007, 12:24 AM) Those naturalised foreigners sons could play well for the country! They got suitable genes like height and mascular mass. All we need is to train them. Imagine if USA doesn't have african immigrants... RUBBISH .You don't know your own country's history , see Mokhtar , Wong Chun Wah etc , not one f***ing foreigner between the whole lot ,and we were top of Asia ! Maybe you don't want to know because you like to fantasise that you can be related to Frank Lampard. Stop watching Espn pro foreign propaganda - move to SG if that's what you want ! how many foreigners does SKorea have ? and Thailand ? Zero. And USA soccer is still crap BTW , despite all the Blacks that they have Oh yes I forgot to add , football is about skills 1st and foremost , all the size and strength won't do you any good if you cant' control the ball. Owen , Maradona , Rooney , Keegan , Pele , Bellamy , Beardsley , Deco , Platini , Zola are no exactly giants and They have done extremely well , including the 2 best players the world ever seen . I take that over the likes of Peter Crouch or Julio Baptista anyday of the week. You don't know what you talk about boy . Joke. This post has been edited by Haunkiem: Jul 17 2007, 08:35 AM |
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Jul 17 2007, 08:34 AM
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QUOTE Ibrahim to give up the hot seat PETALING JAYA: The FA of Malaysia (FAM) general secretary, Datuk Seri Dr Ibrahim Saad, will vacate the hot seat when his two-year term expires next month. The FAM president, Sultan Ahmad Shah, said he had received in writing from Ibrahim of his intention not to renew his contract after his last day in office on Aug 15. "He (Ibrahim) has done a good job. I must thank him," said the Sultan. Ibrahim took over the post from Datuk Dell Akbar Khan two years ago. whaddafark. GOOD JOB! source |
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Jul 17 2007, 08:40 AM
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FAM boss refuses to step down, vows to turn things around
QUOTE "I will not bow to pressure. I am not a coward," said the Sultan, reacting to the public outcry calling for the FA top brass to resign. such lucrative post to lose your dignity for eh? sauce |
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Jul 17 2007, 08:46 AM
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QUOTE(kenny B @ Jul 17 2007, 08:34 AM) hahaha...dell akbar khan better la |
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Jul 17 2007, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jul 17 2007, 05:08 AM) Ibrahim pula letak jawatan another politician...c'mon..already handle 4 ...some more he want to take charge in already trouble FAM... http://utusan.com.my/utusan/content.asp?y=...an&pg=su_06.htm » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Added on July 17, 2007, 5:13 amShahidan minat jawatan no. 2 FAM http://utusan.com.my/utusan/content.asp?y=...an&pg=su_09.htm » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I think he alredy held to many position already And he is politician. We dont want. FAM should change their constitution first and foremost...make sure that this kind of people cannot come in n screwd up e'thing... |
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Jul 17 2007, 09:01 AM
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btw, i think Shahidan can do a good job IF he concentrate on FAM alone. He's done wonders with Perlis team and I think he could be suitable for VP.... but stilll if the Prez is the sultan.... i dunno la...
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Jul 17 2007, 09:01 AM
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I think they should learn from Arsenal team, coz Arsenal is concentrate on ground attack. Malaysia doesn't have height advantage, so i think they should concentrate ground passing, don't pass highly...
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QUOTE(hamsapfella @ Jul 17 2007, 03:35 AM) Actually u guys always kutuk Malaysian football, although i kutuk them myself. YOU guys can also change Bolehland's appalling football scene. I am sure LYN are full of football tacticians, and even better pundits than Shebby. Talks bout formations, first 11, etc Just dont do the talking. Try to represent Malaysia. See if u really can walk the talks... Note: Myteam2 auditions are on going, especially with the revamp of FAM(Less politics) after this "CIRCUS". ADDED: just saw the newspaper: - Tengku say he isnt a COWARD, he decide to stay in FAM This post has been edited by edwin3210: Jul 17 2007, 09:02 AM |
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all malaysian FAM are coward. not brave enough to get the malaysia football team another level after almost 2 decades.. shameful!
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QUOTE(superooneyoi @ Jul 17 2007, 09:09 AM) all malaysian FAM are coward. not brave enough to get the malaysia football team another level after almost 2 decades.. shameful! "I took over as the FAM president in 1984 and started from scratch. I made them (the FAM) rich and gave every affiliate subsidies." from source |
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Jul 17 2007, 09:12 AM
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Jul 17 2007, 09:23 AM
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We will see how many "eggs" the malaysian team will eat for the incoming IRAN match.
Even Thai lost 0-4 to Australia.. But i can see they fought for it .. and played better than Aussie before Viduka scored the 2nd goal ! Salute to Thai team |
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Jul 17 2007, 10:15 AM
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Hmm out of topic a bit, i saw a clip in youtube, last time we even beat arsenal 2 - 0! woah wish we can have that now
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I think that is under 21 or something. Not the regular arsenal.
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Jul 17 2007, 10:34 AM
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Jul 17 2007, 10:38 AM
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wah that is still black and white.
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Jul 17 2007, 10:39 AM
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MISI DITERUSKAN ...
PROJEK MENYEDARKAN FAM !! Jadi Jom Kita Pakat Mai !!! Tarikh : 18 Julai 2007 ( Rabu ) Tempat : Stadium Bukit Jalil ( Sempena Piala Asia : Malaysia vs Iran ) Masa : Bermula 7.00 petang Pakaian : Serba HITAM |
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Jul 17 2007, 10:56 AM
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Jul 17 2007, 12:13 PM
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Jul 17 2007, 01:24 PM
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nvm, when we talk bout our country football to foreigner, we can still proudly mention those old legends...is enough...
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That is the problem. We always talk about the past. Everyone else in the world is talking about rising stars yet Malaysia is still clinging to the past.
Football in Malaysia will NEVER improve it'll only get worse. Hosting the Asian Cup just showed to the world how truly pathetic the state of football in Malaysia is. |
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really they're at fault??? the players also not so good what... what about that?
do remember that when we were a football great nation the current great nations were just learning their footie... This post has been edited by euronymous: Jul 17 2007, 03:24 PM |
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QUOTE(euronymous @ Jul 17 2007, 03:22 PM) really they're at fault??? the players also not so good what... what about that? it shows we have stop improve after that while others nation like korea and japan are now thousands mile ahead of us because of proper development ...do remember that when we were a football great nation the current great nations were just learning their footie... FAM doesn't have proper developement, may be they thought we got thousands of mokhtar dahari youth hmm, dun use the word great ... we never a great football nation before we only beat korea in 1986, and qualify for the olympic games in russia and boycott it...any more ? |
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QUOTE(euronymous @ Jul 17 2007, 03:22 PM) really they're at fault??? the players also not so good what... what about that? It's because of the association's incompetency, they couldn't even pick the good players to represent the country.do remember that when we were a football great nation the current great nations were just learning their footie... It is not the players' fault if they're shit in the sport, because they were called upon to represent Malaysia. And who picks the players? |
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QUOTE(hk_loo @ Jul 17 2007, 03:34 PM) it shows we have stop improve after that while others nation like korea and japan are now thousands mile ahead of us because of proper development ... Another guy who don't his own history , but still like to talk .FAM doesn't have proper developement, may be they thought we got thousands of mokhtar dahari youth hmm, dun use the word great ... we never a great football nation before we only beat korea in 1986, and qualify for the olympic games in russia and boycott it...any more ? WE beat Korea in 1980 to qualify for that year's Olympics. We were numerous times merdeka champions back when merdeka was a leading tourney in Asia. Every one send their best teams. We draw with England 1-1 , when they went on rampage destroying all the other teams around us like SG 8-0 . And the players were ALL AMATEUR , that's is what's more , Yes it was GREAT , whether you like it or not. now go back to Bangsar and stick to fiddling with your new hairstyle and leave the football to the men. |
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Jul 17 2007, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(Spiv @ Jul 17 2007, 10:21 AM) A friend of mine has just enlightened me that we actually played a second friendly with Arsenal after the 2-0 win over them, in Penang. That time we drew 1-1 with Mokhtar Dahari (again) scoring the opener, and Brian Kidd equalising for Arsenal at the death. After scoring 3 against them, Arsenal were rumoured to have considered signing Supermokh. |
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Jul 17 2007, 05:30 PM
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Bashing the national team is the current in thing, so don't get upset lor haunkiem... let the lalang have their fun
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Jul 17 2007, 05:47 PM
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Jul 17 2007, 05:48 PM
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malaysia got football club ?
i tot it was the clown academy or something right ? |
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Jul 17 2007, 06:05 PM
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why people blame FAM is because they abondon the youth players development. actually, they do have a youth development system in 1994, in fact it is a very good system develop by Datuk basri akil(timbalan presiden FAM at that time.) which concentrae on nutrition, technique, physical and acadcemic aspect. but sadly, about few years later, FAM disband the system because they said it is a failure. the system was design not for an instant result but its a 10 years project. datuk basri then react angirily, and critics the action taken by FAM regarding the youth development project, as a result of that he(datuk basri) has been banned from local football untill 2004. i bet if the system continue under the supervising from datuk basri, funding from government and support from FAM, the malaysia national team dont have to be the host to qualify to asia cup. in fact the malaysia national team will be one of the major force in asia football. why i said that?? its because all people know that our u12 players is very good in any world class tournament they entered, but after that there is no effective system to develop them. thats why they only become like today.
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Jul 17 2007, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(Haunkiem @ Jul 17 2007, 05:14 PM) Another guy who don't his own history , but still like to talk . Personally i dont think we are anywhere near great but ok if you insist yep we were GREAT back then compare to the deplorable state of our national football team now...WE beat Korea in 1980 to qualify for that year's Olympics. We were numerous times merdeka champions back when merdeka was a leading tourney in Asia. Every one send their best teams. We draw with England 1-1 , when they went on rampage destroying all the other teams around us like SG 8-0 . And the players were ALL AMATEUR , that's is what's more , Yes it was GREAT , whether you like it or not. now go back to Bangsar and stick to fiddling with your new hairstyle and leave the football to the men. |
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Jul 17 2007, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE(zc_squash @ Jul 17 2007, 06:32 PM) Personally i dont think we are anywhere near great but ok if you insist yep we were GREAT back then compare to the deplorable state of our national football team now... we are not great? ok fine maybe your def of great and mine defers...anyway, back then malaysia is able to strike fear into team that play against them.... opposition knows what malaysia can do.... and they have the track record to prove it... but now.... opposition still know what malaysia can do, which is to ship free goals |
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Jul 17 2007, 07:25 PM
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i just develop this site yesterday...during my lunch hour.so..i invite u all to www.blackparadeunited.com . also inviote u all to Bukit Jalil Stadium tomorrow. wear black shirt to show our movement spirit.
sorry mod..cannot stand with those 'FAMe' ........ |
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Jul 17 2007, 08:33 PM
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http://www.irankicks.com/ikboard/showthrea...?t=46533&page=2
It seems bashing Malaysian footbal is the current Asian fad. |
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Jul 17 2007, 08:36 PM
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even in overseas forum, people is having a kick in bashing the team
i am so malu to call myself a malaysian man |
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Jul 17 2007, 08:38 PM
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omg ? i so want to join them bash. kekekeke. jk jk.
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Jul 17 2007, 08:44 PM
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Jul 17 2007, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ Jul 17 2007, 08:44 PM) no need to shame yeah, she is one of the shinning stars that susah payah carry malaysia name high highjust look from the other side, we have nicole david in squash game can bash them back then comes this nyanuk » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « and his team that bring malaysia down to the lowest of lowest valley |
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Jul 17 2007, 08:56 PM
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http://www.afcasiancup.com/en/tournament/m...ec=105&ssec=246
Moron...come on...let ur football do the talking... |
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Jul 17 2007, 08:59 PM
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yahhahaha, just nicole david i guess.
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Jul 17 2007, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE "We have to expect that the Iran side will be going all out against us. Our approach will therefore have to be a defensive one tomorrow. There will be changes to our starting line-up, in fact, there have to be changes." What defensive ? what changes ? all your "defensive" tactic or "changes" give even worst result... from 1 goal scored against china to 0 goal against uzbek... |
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Jul 17 2007, 09:38 PM
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Nevermind, lets guess the score for tomw's game... Mine will be Malaysia 1 Iran 8, with our lone goal coming from the very, very last minute when Iran decided to give us a chance and get some little goal back!
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Jul 17 2007, 11:45 PM
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hm.. iran 10 - malaysia 0
iran needed the goal for top position |
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Jul 17 2007, 11:52 PM
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Words no football fan wants to hear, "tomorrow, it will be damage limitation for us". Who wants to go to a game, knowing their team has set out to concede as little goals as possible? So if we lose 1-0, we are supposed to celebrate that we have achieved our objective of losing marginally? Our coach will surely not be giving a pep talk in a Jerry Bruckheimer movie.
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Jul 17 2007, 11:55 PM
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Malaysia football need a total change.
1. Bring back youth development system - current crop of international are hopless but we better put our hope on future crop of youngster. 2. Improve school level football competition, make it more competitive event and help develop local football. 3. Building school of football - not just learn skill, but learn tactically, improve football knowledge. 4. Introducing salary cap to current football league - only the best will earn the best pay... and every team can only aford 2 or 3 star players... So you want to get high pay, improve yourself. 5. Scrap away the so called Super league or Premier League... focus on one league and continue to improve it. The reason in England there is different league division is because there is really huge different if you gain promotion to Premier league, where you could net abt 10m to your club... but here in Malaysia, first league and second do not make any different... so make no sense to split it into 2 league where both league also playing crap football... |
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Jul 18 2007, 12:00 AM
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Seriously; why don't we just concede tomorrow's match? Is the heartache worth it? But if it results in the entire FAM resigning; I say, bring the match on. I'll even poke my eyes with toothpicks to stop crying.
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Jul 18 2007, 12:08 AM
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Hopefully Malaysian got beaten hard. Surely this will wake FIFA up and take action on FAM just like Saudi in WC2002 after being trashed by Germany.
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Jul 18 2007, 01:35 AM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jul 17 2007, 06:52 PM) we are not great? ok fine maybe your def of great and mine defers... Prolly we only look so much greater back then becoz we suck so bad now.anyway, back then malaysia is able to strike fear into team that play against them.... opposition knows what malaysia can do.... and they have the track record to prove it... but now.... opposition still know what malaysia can do, which is to ship free goals |
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Jul 18 2007, 03:15 AM
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QUOTE(zc_squash @ Jul 18 2007, 01:35 AM) how do you know what is great and what is not ?where you around then ? No . have you seen any of the old games ? No . Ever even played competitive football even in primary ? No. Ever even played the game regularly ? No. How long have you followed football ? Jumping on the bandwagon because watching Beckham's hair style made your hands reach for the netherparts of your body don't count for anything , tell you that free. So how can you talk ? Joker. Some people like to think their opinions count |
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Jul 18 2007, 05:13 AM
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Jul 18 2007, 06:54 AM
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Jul 18 2007, 07:32 AM
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AFC AFC, you should have allowed MU to play here than having this humiliating tournament held in our soil.
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Jul 18 2007, 07:42 AM
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I'm going to build a time machine now, can't wait to see how the national team progress(or regress?) in 10 years time. Come on Malaysia.
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Jul 18 2007, 09:04 AM
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Hahaha, take Malaysia give 3 1/2 balls to Iran, anyone dare to take?
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Jul 18 2007, 10:57 AM
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Get Football people to run the show , no more royalties and politicians seeking fame .
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Jul 18 2007, 11:02 AM
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Even if M'sia giving 1/4 or even odds to Iran the world is still coming to an end
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Jul 18 2007, 11:08 AM
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LOL he quit the job for what? couldnt even realise he is actually holding the post,so basically it makes no different whether he quit or did not quit the job
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Jul 18 2007, 11:18 AM
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noticed that Khairy J also resigned,
For what? to be the hero after this? may be he want no 2 post lagi susah la ini mcm |
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Jul 18 2007, 12:06 PM
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the whole FAM is a complete joke...it should have been overhaul a long time ago, but because of the power of the top guys, not even the PM can interfere...its a mess and serioulsy even if you all disagree, i dont see malaysia will be a top team again for the next 50 years
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Jul 18 2007, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE(skulless @ Jul 18 2007, 12:06 PM) the whole FAM is a complete joke...it should have been overhaul a long time ago, but because of the power of the top guys, not even the PM can interfere...its a mess and serioulsy even if you all disagree, i dont see malaysia will be a top team again for the next 50 years I think forever is more likely, more people like him are around. You can't let someone who has nothing to do with football/soccer do the job. Just wanna have an easy life. |
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Jul 18 2007, 01:52 PM
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PROJEK MENYEDARKAN FAM !! Jadi Jom Kita Pakat Mai !!! Tarikh : 18 Julai 2007 ( Rabu ) Tempat : Stadium Bukit Jalil ( Sempena Piala Asia : Malaysia vs Iran ) Masa : Bermula 7.00 petang Pakaian : Serba HITAM |
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Jul 18 2007, 02:03 PM
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If Malaysia win 2night, i will congratulate them lo...
But i dun think they can go 2 the next phrase... |
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Jul 18 2007, 02:42 PM
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Jul 18 2007, 02:47 PM
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Jul 18 2007, 02:48 PM
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Malaysia need to play with more aggression. Mati pun mati la... at least mati utk negara. You'll be a national hero wat.
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Jul 18 2007, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE(ronaldo77 @ Jul 18 2007, 02:48 PM) Malaysia need to play with more aggression. Mati pun mati la... at least mati utk negara. You'll be a national hero wat. yes, just bombard the iran defence right from the whistle blow, put in more long ball to counter iran backline ... penentrate the box more to make iran player tackle them and earn penalty ... have more long shot from outside the box |
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Jul 18 2007, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(Ken @ Jul 18 2007, 03:05 PM) yes, just bombard the iran defence right from the whistle blow, put in more long ball to counter iran backline ... penentrate the box more to make iran player tackle them and earn penalty ... have more long shot from outside the box btw, Iran player dont have to tackle them, they will either fall by themself while dribbling or pass the ball back to Iran player. |
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Jul 18 2007, 04:02 PM
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Start playing 2-5-3 , don't care about defence anymore,even defense also will get pawned 7 goal.. so just keep attacking.
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Jul 18 2007, 05:31 PM
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No no, do it all in all out, 10 defend then straight switch to 10 attack, will finish off stamina in the first 30 mins but hopefully will leave some impression... after that hopefully will scare Iran... or else prepare 10-0
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Jul 18 2007, 06:17 PM
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hmm we free falling from fifa ranking the latest ranking we are now no 154
http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/...rank=159&page=4 |
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Jul 18 2007, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE(codottcomott @ Jul 18 2007, 07:17 PM) hmm we free falling from fifa ranking the latest ranking we are now no 154 So that's all we want from cancelling the match with Man Utd http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/...rank=159&page=4 and we are now weaker than Seychelles, i repeat, Seychelles. Good job by FAM . |
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Jul 18 2007, 06:30 PM
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Jul 18 2007, 06:41 PM
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Jul 18 2007, 06:57 PM
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The ranking is fake lorrr. Malaysia too high at 154.
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Jul 18 2007, 07:46 PM
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did u guys noticed.... all the teams under us, it's either football ain't that big in their country or the country is in turmoil....... but Andorra didn't lose 5-0 to England!!!
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Jul 18 2007, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE(codottcomott @ Jul 18 2007, 06:17 PM) hmm we free falling from fifa ranking the latest ranking we are now no 154 And we are not just 154th...we are JOINT 154th with Chinese Taipei.http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/...rank=159&page=4 This is BEFORE the Asian Cup somemore. The freefall might continue.... This post has been edited by Phoenix_Cypher_K1: Jul 18 2007, 07:53 PM |
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QUOTE(Phoenix_Cypher_K1 @ Jul 18 2007, 07:51 PM) And we are not just 154th...we are JOINT 154th with Chinese Taipei. oh, so it seems..This is BEFORE the Asian Cup somemore. The freefall might continue.... i originally thought that this is the "live" version of ranking.. so we might fall again.. gud luck in avoiding the ground level after this tournament.. ah, and we are ranked lower than Myanmar now.. |
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Jul 18 2007, 08:50 PM
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dun worry we will drop 2 last vr soon n if possible we will b outta FIFA list n got banned from playing football 4eva if the standard is way 2 low of the FIFA standard
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Jul 18 2007, 09:30 PM
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at least our ranking higher than Netherlands, er, Netherlands Antilles
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Jul 18 2007, 09:38 PM
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what the hell is netherlands antilles ? a minnow club from netherlands ?
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Jul 18 2007, 09:56 PM
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Jul 18 2007, 09:57 PM
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everyone so happy malaysia keep falling down..... FAM should use "keep holding on" by avril lavinge as the theme song..
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Jul 18 2007, 10:06 PM
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Jul 18 2007, 10:25 PM
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Sooner or later we will be too ridiculous to play against...
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Jul 18 2007, 10:35 PM
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Hopeless??? Uhmm... after 2nite match, i do see some bright future in Malaysian squad, maybe they will be better in the near future despite all the critics n lame performance, they showed some guts fighting with Iran, hopefully we'll get a better football management
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Jul 18 2007, 10:49 PM
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you're the only one who thinks so, rasta. tengku said he wanted to apologise to the fans. and i was like "err what fans?" "no need to apologise to us,many of us were there cheering for the other team - TO PROVE A POINT"
and then our dear sports minister said "something good will come out of this (defeat/resignation) then the big boss of fam said "i won't step down. i'm not giving up" lol |
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Jul 18 2007, 10:54 PM
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Haha, thats why i said after 2nite match, the matches before i was like u guyz, keep on criticizing on how they play, stupid FAM n so on, but they turn me on 2nite, lets hope its not a false alarm
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QUOTE(rastablank @ Jul 18 2007, 10:35 PM) Hopeless??? Uhmm... after 2nite match, i do see some bright future in Malaysian squad, maybe they will be better in the near future despite all the critics n lame performance, they showed some guts fighting with Iran, hopefully we'll get a better football management what guts?! the malaysian squad was pathethic as usual. I was expecting Iran to humiliate them further by shooting in 20 goals, not just 2 goals! yeah, we were all cheering for Iran to score hat tricks one after another. perhaps the rain spoiled their game. how fortunate for the lame malaysian squad. |
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hahaa... man this topic is really hot!
15 pages in like wht, 5days?? hahaha... actually msian footballers are lack of motivation. this is proven did u noe dat? there was once the TM Melaka team were 2 join motivation program in which year i forgot. they were very good at that time. coz i noe who conduct the program for them. but now after they didnt join d prog anymore, now like s#it d. haha XD thats just my opinion |
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Jul 18 2007, 10:59 PM
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no motivation, no intelligent play
totally agree with nwk! what guts?! i was there for the first match against China. wahahahaha i thought i'd be the only one cheering against M'sia, but almost EVERYONE in the stadium was!! "i wish i can apologise and shake every fan's hands" - WHAT FANS AGAIN?? |
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QUOTE(nwk @ Jul 18 2007, 10:57 PM) what guts?! the malaysian squad was pathethic as usual. I was expecting Iran to humiliate them further by shooting in 20 goals, not just 2 goals! yeah, we were all cheering for Iran to score hat tricks one after another. perhaps the rain spoiled their game. how fortunate for the lame malaysian squad. Oh yeah, playing against Asia's no2 team and concide 2 goals which 1 comes from a penalty, i rather said its an improvement |
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Cmon, everyone know it's a fluke.
There's nothing to be proud off. |
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QUOTE(spikeee @ Jul 18 2007, 10:59 PM) no motivation, no intelligent play He should have said "I wish everyone in FAM including my father would resign in the face of this humiliating display of football".totally agree with nwk! what guts?! i was there for the first match against China. wahahahaha i thought i'd be the only one cheering against M'sia, but almost EVERYONE in the stadium was!! "i wish i can apologise and shake every fan's hands" - WHAT FANS AGAIN?? If pele were to see the malaysian squad play, he would vomit blood! |
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it was the rain and... iran already progressed. to them, why do i need to put in 100% against this rather 'strong' team of msia?
Added on July 18, 2007, 11:05 pm"i won't step down! i won't give up! i'm not a quitter!" LOL. well done for the past countless years u've been in charge, then This post has been edited by spikeee: Jul 18 2007, 11:05 PM |
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Jul 18 2007, 11:07 PM
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Seeing M'sia play wouldve make our police force weep and never take bribe anymore.
Btw, I suspect public holiday and big hero's welcome home celebration (much bigger than ACM winning CL) tomorrow since we only conceded 2 goals in this match. |
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Jul 18 2007, 11:07 PM
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Iran probably don't want to risk further injuries to their players. Bayern's Hritik roshan, rasul and vahid seems to miss a lot.
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Jul 18 2007, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(Acey @ Jul 18 2007, 11:07 PM) Seeing M'sia play wouldve make our police force weep and never take bribe anymore. if they give a public holiday just for conceding 2 goals, it would be the BIGGEST insult to every malaysian who love football!!!!!!Btw, I suspect public holiday and big hero's welcome home celebration (much bigger than ACM winning CL) tomorrow since we only conceded 2 goals in this match. |
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Jul 18 2007, 11:12 PM
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i thought we were in for a hiding, but maybe Iran showed class and spared us mercy. karimi missed a whole lot of chances, while the Iran No 10 was wasting his share as well.
surprise of the group was China's capitulation at the hands of the Uzbeks. i think they came for a draw as then China would be through at the expense of the Uzbeks. but the football gods decided otherwise and punished them for their complacency... |
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Jul 18 2007, 11:12 PM
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Insult? We take it as a compliment now adays.
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Jul 18 2007, 11:13 PM
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No difference mate.. to tell your players to not concede too many goals before the tourney is already an insult, and kena one dozen donuts in 3 matches.. well... since its already an insult
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Jul 18 2007, 11:14 PM
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well, eventhough Malaysia play badly, no improvement, Iran play to avoid injury or something, still, 2-0. dont expect Malaysia to win maa. against Iran ? dont think so. 2-0 is nice eventhough the game sux.
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Jul 18 2007, 11:15 PM
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It's Iran man.. if lost 2-0 to Maldives we could also be happy. This is almost like miracle compared to what FAM have did to our football.
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Jul 18 2007, 11:15 PM
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Just saw espn sportscenter. Uday Joshi said latest news, Norizan Bakar is FIRED after the defeat. Muahahaha.. Too late though..
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Jul 18 2007, 11:15 PM
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I was expecting 6-0 this time.. since first match 4 g.d, second match 5 g.d...
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Jul 18 2007, 11:17 PM
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EXACTLY - they don't want to risk. what for risk it against the heroes of malaysia?
acey - u're right. if only our police force saw it. malaysia will be free of corruption! the politicians also never bother to watch wan whee public holiday! |
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Jul 18 2007, 11:18 PM
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hahhaa, really Norizan got fired ?
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Jul 18 2007, 11:18 PM
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Jul 18 2007, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(schmeichel7 @ Jul 18 2007, 11:15 PM) Just saw espn sportscenter. Uday Joshi said latest news, Norizan Bakar is FIRED after the defeat. Muahahaha.. Too late though.. lost 3 matches still dun fire him???if for japan or saudi, even fail in first match will tabau immediately ... norizan consider not bad already... |
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Jul 18 2007, 11:20 PM
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plssssssssss let's not forget what they did to our dear foreign coach whom they didn't bother to pay.
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Jul 18 2007, 11:22 PM
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Hm. Another of our "tidak apa" habit.
China 5 - 1 Malaysia... tidak apa, ada game lain lagi... Uzbekistan 5 - 0 Malaysia ... tidak apa juga, Iran kuat macam China, kalau kita menang/draw ada lagi muka Iran 2 - 0 Malaysia... aiseh, kena tendang sekor dulu buat macam ada niat nak improve team. |
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Jul 18 2007, 11:24 PM
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yeah you're so right, acey. it's a tidak apa attitude. but i think malaysian fans don't care already - whether or not they got proper attitude because we know it won't happen
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Jul 18 2007, 11:29 PM
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What a disappointment tournament they had. I thought they are gonna get trashed again. No matter the FAM fire how many coach also the quality fo players are the same. Unless they could be more hardworking in training. For current M'sia team, they make themselves look like a 7 year old boy playing soccer at their backyard.
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Jul 18 2007, 11:31 PM
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Maybe because of bad pitch (after rain, bit basah) Iran didn't whacked Malaysia. Normal la, in Iran how many times rain... Haha.. Just kidding.. But China surprisingly got beaten by Uzbekistan.
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Jul 18 2007, 11:36 PM
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I was more surprised to see China kena whack 3-0... MUCH MORE surprised compared to our 2-0 loss... well, since we're already used to losing.. so one look and the thought of "oh lose again" regardless of the score will go through our mind first.
Give up on the national team. Stop hoping unless all those on top step down and let someone with more brains and actions take over. |
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Jul 18 2007, 11:37 PM
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oklaa...at least this match can see sum flashes of mati2 style of play by our players..no more stupid long balls...watching the match expecting another trashing mebe made me satisfied with the 2-0 scoreline..
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Jul 18 2007, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(aztechx @ Jul 18 2007, 11:37 PM) oklaa...at least this match can see sum flashes of mati2 style of play by our players..no more stupid long balls...watching the match expecting another trashing mebe made me satisfied with the 2-0 scoreline.. i smell "someone" stuff This post has been edited by edwin3210: Jul 18 2007, 11:43 PM |
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Jul 18 2007, 11:49 PM
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FAM is full of corruption.. pahang sultan is best known for selling DATO's ship at arund 300k ringgit .
Iran did not field their 2005's mr football asia also. and all they did was jus passing around without true runnings. |
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Jul 19 2007, 12:02 AM
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Things will never get any better if there's still bribery and corruption around this country. Some countries are good in economy and some good in sports but what about our country? None of it, oh boy, not to whine about it but seriously we gotta kick out corruption and bribery in this country.
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Jul 19 2007, 12:11 AM
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stupid useless game of the day. I bet myteam will did better than them.
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Jul 19 2007, 12:20 AM
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QUOTE(vexus @ Jul 19 2007, 12:11 AM) All my friends bet on Iran to win. Nobody bet on Malaysia because we all know they SUCK!!!! I also heard about the news that they fired coach Norizan. Why only him? They should fire the entire god damn FAM from top to bottom including the sultan and the hopeless players! |
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Jul 19 2007, 12:24 AM
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looks like they wanna make norizan their scapegoat, but we're not stupid
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Jul 19 2007, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE(idevonz @ Jul 19 2007, 12:24 AM) Yup. It's been fishy from the start. They know we are going to be the host years before the event but FAM didn't prepare a team properly.They didn't hire experienced coach. They didn't promote the cup much before. They knew we will lose and thus set Man U match during Asian Cup finals. FA cup final 1 week before the event. the list goes on and on... |
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Jul 19 2007, 12:57 AM
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I pity da players act cuz i dun think they really wanna have tis kind of result...I think they played much better in Tiger Cup..
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Jul 19 2007, 01:08 AM
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i hope FAM wont say" tengok, kita lawan iraq, kalah 2-0 saja...saya puas hati dengan semangat pemain saya walaupun mereka kalah teruk pada perlawanan sebelum ini...."
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Jul 19 2007, 01:11 AM
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QUOTE(rastablank @ Jul 18 2007, 10:54 PM) Haha, thats why i said after 2nite match, the matches before i was like u guyz, keep on criticizing on how they play, stupid FAM n so on, but they turn me on 2nite, lets hope its not a false alarm To be honest; look at the stats. Iran was desperately unlucky against us as well as superbly wasteful. 3 times hit the post. If I'm not mistaken; Iran had about 20 shots compared to Malaysia's 3 or 4. And this is with our so-called "10 men behind the ball" tactic. |
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Jul 19 2007, 01:26 AM
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Jul 19 2007, 04:27 AM
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FAM -> F*ckers Association of Malaysia. better sack the person who fired norizan...
and for those who think we improved against Iran, think again. It's so obvious that Iran is just playing around. yeah, they bring on all their offensive player but you do not see real attacking runs, tackles etc from them.. furthermore, all the players behind the ball. Malaysia was lucky iran din put more players in the box and cross.. This post has been edited by O-haiyo: Jul 19 2007, 04:36 AM |
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Jul 19 2007, 05:46 AM
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hmm ok la 2-0... itupun defender 9 org.... tp iran tetap menang jugak..... main macam budak sekolah menengah.... clear sana.... clear sini.... malu.....
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Jul 19 2007, 09:50 AM
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Malaysia was so desperate not to "kena rogol" again on the pitch they play so violently~ to the point i dont know which muthaf***a pissed Ali Karimi off so much they almost started a fight haha. Kononnya wanna main physical but tackle tak tentu pasal...itu bukannya physical bodoh....itu main kotor!
Anyway i actually know why some players are so keen on tackling players like Karimi. Kalau karimi injured sure heboh satu Europe. Siapa yang buat...? Oh mamat dari malaysia tuh yang tackle.... hah, dapat plak publisiti percuma... boleh gak nama appear kat paper Europe.... Bangga mak bapak dan jiran jiran kat kampung tuh.... |
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Jul 19 2007, 09:56 AM
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Haiya, our national team is just plain hopeless... I was actually hoping for a MEGA goal fest and to be frank, i went for an 8-1 trashing for Malaysia... Anyway, a 2-0 loss is still a small improvement for the team with the worst defense in the Cup...
Still, Norizan shouldn't be the only one who gets the sack for this debacle... Everyone else at the FAM, from the bench-warming s**tty Sultan to all the players should be kicked out and the new guys who take over will then have a fresh, blank slate to start anew! |
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Jul 19 2007, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(THT United Gadgets @ Jul 19 2007, 09:56 AM) Haiya, our national team is just plain hopeless... I was actually hoping for a MEGA goal fest and to be frank, i went for an 8-1 trashing for Malaysia... Anyway, a 2-0 loss is still a small improvement for the team with the worst defense in the Cup... yeah man.. just like Brazil... hired Dunga... completely revamp the whole team... now won Copa. damn! heheheStill, Norizan shouldn't be the only one who gets the sack for this debacle... Everyone else at the FAM, from the bench-warming s**tty Sultan to all the players should be kicked out and the new guys who take over will then have a fresh, blank slate to start anew! |
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Jul 19 2007, 10:03 AM
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Oh ya, someone like Dunga can also work wonders to the lazybum Malaysian players... In short, we need those tough, super-strict coaches who can work without undue influence from the powers-that-be and turn those losers into potential match-beaters!
My shortlist ya P.S. Something unrelated to Malaysia team here... What happened to China in recent times? From the high of World Cup qualification in 2002 to getting KO'ed by Uzbekistan out of the Asian Cup? Looks like the coach Mr. Guanghu can expect to see the axe falling on his head soon... And i guess their ranking will fall further from their current #76... This post has been edited by THT United Gadgets: Jul 19 2007, 10:04 AM |
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Jul 19 2007, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(THT United Gadgets @ Jul 19 2007, 10:03 AM) Oh ya, someone like Dunga can also work wonders to the lazybum Malaysian players... In short, we need those tough, super-strict coaches who can work without undue influence from the powers-that-be and turn those losers into potential match-beaters! u know who'd be a good coach? Eric Cantona. muakakakakaka.... teach those buggers how to fly in tackle... and fly into stands... My shortlist ya |
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Jul 19 2007, 10:06 AM
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And even kick holes in goalkeepers' chests!
But seriously, with Norizan gone, someone like say, Azman Adnan or even Shebby Singh should be able to fill the void... Both have played for the country before, and with some success, so they should be able to understand the workings of the national team as well as how to change the attitude (maybe even improve their defending and shooting!) of the current crop of players... |
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Jul 19 2007, 10:09 AM
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nah.. i don't think azman can coach. he was coaching my fren's team, the guy sometimes blur on what to do leh. hehehe.. i think shebby is a good manager but a coach? i don't think he's that good.
Dollah salleh is a good coach.. proven already... so does Zainal.... but i'd love to see Matlan Marjan given the honor. he's very good.... i've seen him coach before. |
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Jul 19 2007, 12:22 PM
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aiyah bottom line is our own homebred coaches will never be good enough. see the way shebby talks about how "if i were coach, i would .. blablabla"
they THINK they know everything, that's the worst part haha i like what zc_squash said - break karimi's leg, bapak, emak , semua bangga giler |
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Jul 19 2007, 12:24 PM
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FAM has to shoulder a large portion of the blame. Players on the other hand should be selected at a young age, based on their attributes and not just ability. I think the following points are important:
a) Education/Intelligence : The 2 are similar because it would mean that the player has a higher learning curve, which in turn means he can think faster on the pitch. While under pressure, our players often resort to route 1 football, pumping hail mary's up to park hoping that our diminutive forwards can miraculously grow 5 inches. A smarter and quicker thinking footballer would have thought of ways to keep possession even when under pressure. How can you expect some kampung fella whose family has been selling lemang the whole of their lives, to have a high learning curve? b) Mental Toughness : Players who are mentally weak give in too easily. When they go down, they stay down. People say that leaders are born, not made and there is a great deal of truth to this statement. You need players who are competitive by nature and have the will to win. This is innate. Cannot tahan the weather lah, cannot adapt to the food lah; these are all excuses! Nothing worth doing comes easy and you cannot achieve anything without some sacrifice. Our current crop of players lack ambition and desire. c) Physique : Size isn't everything but it does help. We can identify tall kids and them groom them into footballers. Notice how in their interviews, certain footballers started out with basketball, badminton or some other sport. They were then spotted and groomed into footballers. Currently our team would not be allowed on half the rides in Disneyland. The Koreans, Chinese and Japanese have realised the advantage size gives you and if you have noticed, they are a bigger side these days compared to the past. Against Indonesia, the Koreans fielded a team where their shortest player was 1.82metres. If your team doesn't have speed, go get a sprinter and groom him to be a footballer. |
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Jul 19 2007, 12:34 PM
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Wattodo, government still provides millions on RM to FAM
but still no improvement...the latest MYTEAM 2 ,until MYTEAM 36 pun malaysian football still underpar,underperform,outclass. *sighhhh hopefully year 2020 malaysian football will be upclass. FAM should overhaul now or never! |
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Jul 19 2007, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jul 19 2007, 12:24 PM) a) Education/Intelligence : The 2 are similar because it would mean that the player has a higher learning curve, which in turn means he can think faster on the pitch. While under pressure, our players often resort to route 1 football, pumping hail mary's up to park hoping that our diminutive forwards can miraculously grow 5 inches. A smarter and quicker thinking footballer would have thought of ways to keep possession even when under pressure. How can you expect some kampung fella whose family has been selling lemang the whole of their lives, to have a high learning curve? This one no problem to fullfill, many As and many subjects, I do believe younger generation are able to do this categories quite well. If i remember correctly my spm is like 8 subjects nowadays double. Nowadays a lot of formula milk with high concentrated of DHA+ make the brain better. People are getting smart at young age.QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jul 19 2007, 12:24 PM) b) Mental Toughness : Players who are mentally weak give in too easily. When they go down, they stay down. People say that leaders are born, not made and there is a great deal of truth to this statement. You need players who are competitive by nature and have the will to win. This is innate. Cannot tahan the weather lah, cannot adapt to the food lah; these are all excuses! Nothing worth doing comes easy and you cannot achieve anything without some sacrifice. Our current crop of players lack ambition and desire. This one hard to findQUOTE(Duke Red @ Jul 19 2007, 12:24 PM) c) Physique : Size isn't everything but it does help. We can identify tall kids and them groom them into footballers. Notice how in their interviews, certain footballers started out with basketball, badminton or some other sport. They were then spotted and groomed into footballers. Currently our team would not be allowed on half the rides in Disneyland. The Koreans, Chinese and Japanese have realised the advantage size gives you and if you have noticed, they are a bigger side these days compared to the past. Against Indonesia, the Koreans fielded a team where their shortest player was 1.82metres. If your team doesn't have speed, go get a sprinter and groom him to be a footballer. Well malaysian are not all short, if look at the younger generation are quite tall/big, all drink too much formula milk. I believe this categories isn't a problem.This post has been edited by Spiv: Jul 19 2007, 12:36 PM |
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Jul 19 2007, 12:41 PM
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Hey, did u see today's NST? Even the Cabinet is very pissed off about this, looks like the fagg0t Sultan himself has lots of answering to do, now that his son has resigned...
But seriously, the idea of picking tall chaps and then grooming them into footballers is a good start... We need such fellows whose height is greater than the national average in order to develop goalies like Edwin VDS as well as the likes of Peter Crouch (striker) and Jaap Stam (defender)... These tall guys can easily out-head any Asian player around, thats for sure! |
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Jul 19 2007, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE(sakaito @ Jul 19 2007, 10:09 AM) nah.. i don't think azman can coach. he was coaching my fren's team, the guy sometimes blur on what to do leh. hehehe.. i think shebby is a good manager but a coach? i don't think he's that good. azman still hasn't had enough experience. as for shebby; it's always easier said than done, so whether he'll make it big, remain to be seen. dollah and zainal? well, they need to work in pair just like the good ol' days Dollah salleh is a good coach.. proven already... so does Zainal.... but i'd love to see Matlan Marjan given the honor. he's very good.... i've seen him coach before. matlan marjan, aren't he the one who scored 2 goals against england B back in 90s? heck, he was so good back then... but i doubt he'll ever be the national coach. he was an east malaysian and remember the big scandal? we need a foreign coach with no internal interferences. allan harris should be good. but i'd like to see roy keane with his no nonsense coaching style |
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Jul 19 2007, 12:51 PM
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malaysian footballer lack of technique...
they cant keep the ball,passing ... so my suggestion... introduce freestyle football... |
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Jul 19 2007, 01:21 PM
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Well guys, i feel that my going down fighting 3-0 comments in another thread has been vindicated.
Overall, i feel we did quite well last night, albeit we played with 11 men behind the ball for long periods of time. We went down fighting and things would have been even better had we not conceeded the soft penalty. One of our strikers (sorry, don't watch enough local matches to know his name I've seen a number of comments saying that we played too defensive a game. Well, this proves how much some of the 'lalang' here know about football. I recall one of the comentators saying that "You must learn not to lose before you can learn how to win." In football this is very true, even teams like Manchester United and Liverpool line up defensively when playing superior opposition, and Iran is indeed much, much superior when compared to us. Remember Greece and their Euro victory... the were ultra defensive too. However, we made an experienced Iran side look VERY ORDINARY. Maybe it was the rain... The question now is why did the players not show the same spirit and determination in the two earlier games? From what I saw yesterday, we do have the skill, but not the heart. Looks like the boys only started playing when everyone was crying for their necks! Secondly, why is our coach tactically inept? Wanting to win is admirable, but going gung ho against crazy odds is plain stupid. Had we played defensively we might have gotten lucky and come out with a draw even. Surely we won't lose by five freaking goals? Maybe he's watched 300 one too many times, but he's been given the sack anyways, so lets not dwell on this. Bad attitute from players, inexperienced coach... hmm... IMHO the FAM should stop blaming the players, the past two weeks are more an indication of management's weakness instead of a lack of quality players. Sp FAM, stop blaming them and start looking into the mirror. As for the president's comments, again with all due respect Sultan, yes, you have been very good to/for FAM. FAM is a rich organisation now. However, have you been good to/for Malaysian football? Unfortunately, i think the answer is NO. As for the rest of the doomsayers and bandwagon jumpers, if you have nothing constructive to say, then please keep your peace. Saying stuff like 40-0 and playing Nicol Davids in goal helps not one bit (well, it does prove that you are indeed shallow if not an outright arse This post has been edited by madmoz: Jul 19 2007, 01:32 PM |
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Jul 19 2007, 01:29 PM
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well said, duke red. that's what i've always wanted to say but never got down to it
Football is not just about skills. A skills-only game is for schoolboys and amateur players who try to dribble all the way from one goalpost to the other. Our players DO NOT HAVE THE intelligence, the mental strength, the composure, nor the ability to think out of the curve. Our footballers are dropouts etc. that's horrible i think it's so shallow that we always pick footballers based on their technical attributes (pace, ball control, dribbling, headers etc) . They should all go for some test or something to see their level of intelligence and decision making. |
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Jul 19 2007, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 19 2007, 01:21 PM) I've seen a number of comments saying that we played too defensive a game. Well, this proves how much some of the 'lalang' here know about football. I recall one of the comentators saying that "You must learn not to lose before you can learn how to win." In football this is very true, even teams like Manchester United and Liverpool line up defensively when playing superior opposition, and Iran is indeed much, much superior when compared to us. Remember Greece and their Euro victory... the were ultra defensive too. Much of the criticism stems from the fact that while we are crap, our SEA rivals are not. They have raised their games and even in the face of superior opposition, they attacked and scored. I'll use the Korea vs. Indonesia game as an example again, the Indonesians needed only a draw and they really fought tooth and nail. They challenged the Koreans for everything. I remember seeing Firman's face after the game as the referee blew for full time. The look of disappointment on his face as the ref shook his hand, said it all. Here was a guy that genuinely felt he let his nation down. That being said, I commend their efforts, they exit the tournament with their heads held up high. The Thai's went out fighting as well after playing some exquisite football at times, and Vietnam is in the quarters. Can you blame Malaysians for being frustrated? We beat Indonesia just a couple of years ago at their home, but can we say that we could have played the Koreans the way Indonesia did? I think not. While it may be smart to play defensively sometimes, we simply don't have enough quality going forward, unlike our SEA rivals. If our world ranking suggests anything, it's that we will have to line up defensively against any team in the current tournament! If we already expected to lose, at least do so with some dignity. Is playing defensively and losing 3-1, 3-0 and 2-0 really that different from playing attacking football and losing 5-1, 5-0 and 2-0? Either way we lose but when faced against superior opposition, the pressure is on them, let us take the fight to them. This is my take on it. QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 19 2007, 01:21 PM) The question now is why did the players not show the same spirit and determination in the two earlier games? From what I saw yesterday, we do have the skill, but not the heart. Looks like the boys only started playing when everyone was crying for their necks! Perhaps there wasn't any pressure on them this time round, having already exited the tournament, and not having any fans at the stadium to heckle them. |
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Jul 19 2007, 02:27 PM
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yeah, against team that are stronger than you, play defensively is a good choice but try to counter-attack too.
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Jul 19 2007, 02:39 PM
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Cue Duke with a well thought out and intelligent reply. Btw, noticed how this thread has gone a lot colder since the 2-0 loss last night...
Us being crap and our football being down and out are unfortunately foregone conclusions. We should have accepted the fact that we were the weakest team in the Asia Cup and adopted defensive techniques from the get-go. I think last night was not a humiliating defeat for Malaysia, we did pretty well IMHO (considering the fact that we are actually crap in the first place). 2-0 will never look as bad in the history books as 5-0. To quote our ex-coach, this is about damage limitation as the problem is we cannot withdraw our national team from FIFA sanctioned games. Much has been said about improving the quality of our grassroot and there has also been ample response on this thread alone. Many of these suggestions are indeed workable most if not all will take time. Also, the entire football culture in Malaysia has to change to accomodate some of the more radical ideas. This will not be easy. In the meantime, what do we do? Distance ourselves from tournaments and become football 'backward', remember how long it took for the English clubs to establish themselves in Europe after their exile? Or send the same group of players to the 'korban' and slide further down the rankings - i.e. more humiliation? I hate defensive play as much as the next bloke but unfortunately I think that this is the way forward for Malaysia. If we can stop getting knocked about, we can then slowly regain some confidence and hopefully start competing on the Asean level again. And to be honest, I'd rather the Sultan keep his place, judging by the 'quality' of his to be successors... FAM is but a political pawn for those idiots, at least the Sultan's intentions are noble (no pun intended) enough. This post has been edited by madmoz: Jul 19 2007, 02:46 PM |
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Jul 19 2007, 02:50 PM
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Employ foreign coach also no point, coz the selection player still coach have no power. If the coach select 20 very superd talented good player and non bumi, u think they will approve arr.... sorry no offend.
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Jul 19 2007, 03:04 PM
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I don't think it's a case of if u r weaker than u should play defensive football. The objective of the game is to score more goals than the opposition after all. We did line up defensively against Iran but we had no game plan to win the game so to speak. We were just there to park the bus and salvage a draw at most. I personally have nothing against defensive tactics if u know how to win a game using it via counterattacking. But u have to choose which game style u want and get the tactics right. Not a half assed version of 4-4-2.
And from what i saw of our SEA neighbours to be fair..our players aren't that much inferior in terms of technique. Our manager is a tactical idiot and although some would find it hard to believe i actually think that with a better manager we could have had a better showing. |
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Jul 19 2007, 03:13 PM
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fergie/jet li once said before the best way of defend is to attack
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Jul 19 2007, 03:13 PM
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No one propose Jose Mourinho or Roy Keanne?? hehehe.. just joking...I dun think any foreign coach will come to manage Malaysian squad.. If can, get Italian or german coach...And I think FAM shud do alot scouting around the states, find more tall people for defenders and keeper.. and then send them overseas training...
Australian have averages players around 1.85m, some of their defender is 1.90m.... thats damn tall and yet they can run longer distance... advantage for heading.. gaya pun ade... Eh I tot they said they will bring Titus back to play in Asian Cup? No news 1? |
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Jul 19 2007, 03:19 PM
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"Play a Defensive Game"
that doesn't work for malaysia because they can't defend for nuts. even with 11 men behind the ball. |
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Jul 19 2007, 03:21 PM
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Last nite M'sia only lost 2 nil which I think is quite a good result albeit helped by incompetence finishing by Iran.
BUT I'm gonna vomit blood if somehow some genius inside FAM praise the performance until sky high or worst still reward them for the combative performance. Can't help but thinking this way as M'sia has a way of over rewarding decent result |
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Jul 19 2007, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(spikeee @ Jul 19 2007, 03:19 PM) "Play a Defensive Game" Oh, and how do we come to that conclusion? I think the did pretty well last night when the coach finally got his tactics right? had luck been on our side we would have scored two on the counter attack as well.that doesn't work for malaysia because they can't defend for nuts. even with 11 men behind the ball. Oh wait, I forgot, it IS fashionable to BASH our national team. Sorry. On another note, a decent performance and one deserving of a reward are two very very different things! Like what vreis said, no awards for being 'less crap' please! |
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Jul 19 2007, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(vreis @ Jul 19 2007, 03:21 PM) Last nite M'sia only lost 2 nil which I think is quite a good result albeit helped by incompetence finishing by Iran. dude... it should've been 5-0 ler... 3 shots hit the woodwork, remember? damn the rain! heheheBUT I'm gonna vomit blood if somehow some genius inside FAM praise the performance until sky high or worst still reward them for the combative performance. Can't help but thinking this way as M'sia has a way of over rewarding decent result anyway, yeah Matlan Marjan is from Sabah. i was there from 2002 to 2005 and watched him coach a local team.. this team beat Sabah team la weh! full strength summore... btw madmoz... i wonder, how many malaysia games did u go and watched? say like in the past 5 years? it's very frustrating when u go and support and they promises this and that.. and no improvement from one year to the next... i know.. i was there.... This post has been edited by sakaito: Jul 19 2007, 03:34 PM |
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Jul 19 2007, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 19 2007, 02:39 PM) In the meantime, what do we do? Distance ourselves from tournaments and become football 'backward', remember how long it took for the English clubs to establish themselves in Europe after their exile? Or send the same group of players to the 'korban' and slide further down the rankings - i.e. more humiliation? Good question. I think it's a commonly accepted fact that this generation of footballers and the next are not the ones that are going to raise our profile in world football. I reiterate, I think so because they do not have the 3 attributes I mentioned earlier; a) Intelligence/Education, b) Mental Toughness and c) the required Physical attributes. It is probably safe to assume that our downward spiral will continue especially if we play higher ranked opposition (heaven forbid we should start losing consistently to basement teams). To be honest, I could care less what happens to our current team. It may take another 5 - 10 years, but focus should really be put on grooming candidates from an early age (say 8 - 13), who possess the attributes I mentioned above. That being said, these kids have to want to play football for a living as well. In the meantime, I do think we should stay away from International tournaments, why waste time and money? The FAM has always gotten as much money as they have wanted and it's time to put a stop to this. It's time to practice meritocracy. This post has been edited by Duke Red: Jul 19 2007, 03:38 PM |
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Jul 19 2007, 03:42 PM
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agreed with u there duke
even the cabinet is angry with FAM rite now because football is the major sport that received majority of the government support and $$. I do agree a total revamp of FAM. 20+years waiting for glory... still waiting... haih... |
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Jul 19 2007, 04:42 PM
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Through all this year, M'sia have been getting worst rather than getting better. What, Why , How ....all this question prompt out whenever they faces a lose. Now the prob become more critical, as our supporter lif up a banner during the match which i forgot the content de. This really make the player and the coach really dissapointed and even the FAM. As the result, Chief of FAM hand over his place, coach been sacked, a datuk had recommed himself as the position for Cheif for FA & i think still got other issue that we dun know. Will all this improve our nation football team's quality?? Will they improve?? I think rather then improve the nation team 1st , is better to start to improve our Malaysia football league 1st. Bcos from there we can improve our nation player, from there the player themself can improve their skill, strategy and etc. Or even organize the football competition for the youth player more aggresively.
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Jul 19 2007, 04:52 PM
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I don't think anything can be done from now onwards regarding our current first team. If i had the choice 90% of the senior team would be thrown out and the u-21s be promoted. At least they seem to have more fight in them. Get a good manager in (if it has to be a foreigner so be it) and start planning for the future. We have the resources to do it. It's baffling enough that it took a poor showing in a tournament to get it rolling. But better late than never.
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Jul 19 2007, 05:44 PM
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ever noticed that a good midfielder will make out for a good manager? hehehe.. maybe because they way they manage the field, helps them become a good manager.
now, having said that, i believe the u-21 should be promoted and starts training as senior squad. if we need seniors, then pick up a couple and have them mentor the kids... but mentoring what? they never did anything good... just a lot of bad decisions.... so, i think just leave it be. start the revolution! |
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Jul 19 2007, 06:07 PM
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yups which makes me reiterate as well that after 20+ years of waiting and the sultan can still say "i won't quit because i'm not a quitter" lol.
it's something like saying "when the going gets tough, the tough gets going". he never got going |
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Jul 19 2007, 07:07 PM
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Well, i guess the way to go is to bring in some African or even East European, maybe even South American, players and make them naturalized Malaysians... Its not a big deal unless those so-called nationalists make lots of noise...
Hey, France itself is made up of lots of different people who are not native Frenchmen... Many of the blacks there are from the former French colonies from Africa, such as Senegal, Cote' de Ivorie, and even Morocco... Or if u take a closer-to-home look, Singapore has ppl like Agu Casmir (Nigeria), Fahrudin Mustafic (Bosnia), and Daniel Benet (England), to name a few playing for their national team... |
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Jul 19 2007, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE(Haunkiem @ Jul 18 2007, 03:15 AM) how do you know what is great and what is not ? thank you for ur comment and now i'm just gonna show you how blank you are.where you around then ? No . have you seen any of the old games ? No . Ever even played competitive football even in primary ? No. Ever even played the game regularly ? No. How long have you followed football ? Jumping on the bandwagon because watching Beckham's hair style made your hands reach for the netherparts of your body don't count for anything , tell you that free. So how can you talk ? Joker. Some people like to think their opinions count statistics and history don't lie. what was the proudest moment? Qualification to Moscow Olympics? Erm, anything else? Hey tell me, how could that be 'great'? Everybody is now talking about how good we were back then is because we really suck big time now. Yep, we were better team before this but "great"? Oh puhlezz don't lie to urself lil kid. go get some education twat. seeing that you are my fellow malaysian i'll give u a tip now. go to google.com and look up for the "great" and understand the definition before pretending to be smart, aite? And if you still wanna flame, PM me and leave this thread clean from your so-called wise opinion, fool. Okay, if you insist... alrite we were great...by malaysian standard that is. Hope you can finally sleep tonite... Awhhhh god.... This post has been edited by zc_squash: Jul 19 2007, 09:15 PM |
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Jul 19 2007, 07:29 PM
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so FAM paid iran FA not to score so much or what ?
so is it confirm malaysia leak the most goal in the group matches in the history of asia cup ? wow, we should be proud man... we got an unbeatable record in asia cup |
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Jul 19 2007, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jul 19 2007, 07:29 PM) so FAM paid iran FA not to score so much or what ? Nope. They didn't create that history since they avoided a huge defeat last night.so is it confirm malaysia leak the most goal in the group matches in the history of asia cup ? wow, we should be proud man... we got an unbeatable record in asia cup |
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Jul 19 2007, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE yups which makes me reiterate as well that after 20+ years of waiting and the sultan can still say "i won't quit because i'm not a quitter" lol. I believed he really thought that he has done some darn amazing achievements for country and proud of them such as -> super leagues, bla3.. but cannot accept the fact that there might be more qualified persons to replace his job.. man..what kind of mentality is that? it's something like saying "when the going gets tough, the tough gets going". he never got going malaysia is rich with good facilities unlike Iraq (I suppose) but the management s[_]cks big time.. |
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Jul 19 2007, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(Phoenix_Cypher_K1 @ Jul 19 2007, 08:12 PM) WHAT THE FISH ?!?!?!?MALAYSIA CANNOT EVEN MAKE HISTORY AS THE MOST GOAL LEAK ? so much for malaysia boleh ? the least they could do is to leak in the most goal so that people will remember malaysia by |
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Jul 19 2007, 11:03 PM
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FAM management.. please quit.. now i got no face to say i am malaysian already.. infamous for leaking 12 goals in AFC!!
when i go to foreign land, especially football land (england, brazil).. i will say i will be from the land above singapore.. and hope their geographic knowledge is low if high.. then they will be like.. O.O U FROM THERE MATE? THE ONE WHO BEING TRASH AND SCORE NO POINT IN AFC? |
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Jul 20 2007, 12:05 AM
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i have no fear saying i'm malaysian because i never supported or thought anything of them footballers.
lol hahaha |
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Jul 20 2007, 12:10 AM
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Why don't we made our own FAM? We start our own amateur leagues with our own clubs. We play during weekends kinda a lot like the English Sunday games.
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Jul 20 2007, 12:20 AM
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if u guys check out FIFA 98 got malaysian league inside..
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Jul 20 2007, 12:22 AM
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I agree with u there, bro... And K. Gunalan was one of my key defenders when i was playing selangor... But best of all were my foreigners, i had ppl like Andrei Kanchelskis, Igor Shalimov, and another European star... That Selangor team of mine won the league hands-down!
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Jul 20 2007, 12:24 AM
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now dunno what happen..last time M-league was high standard until can make videogame somemore..now rubbish..
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Jul 20 2007, 12:27 AM
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Are you sure that time Malaysian league really good standard until can included in the video games??......
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Jul 20 2007, 12:29 AM
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Now ah, who can remember even half of the national team today? This was unlike the days when the players were household names... Even today, i can still think back to the times when these guys were the IN thing:
- Azman Adnan and Rusdi Suparman (Selangor's twin terrors!) - Dollah Salleh (anchorman for Pahang) - Hashim Mustapha (Kelantan goal poacher, outscored foreigners like nobody's business) - Matlan Marjan (Sabah striker extraordinaire) - Zainal Abidin Hassan (Dollah's good friend and Pahang goal-getter) - Mehmet Durakovic (Selangor's pillar of strength in defense) - The one and only Shebby Singh (KL key defender during their years of winning the M'sia Cup three years in a row) - Lim Teong Kim (Hertha Berlin star) Of today's crop of players, only Akmal Rizal remains in my watchlist as this guy had the potential to make it big in Europe, if not for the injuries that curtailed much of his career... This post has been edited by THT United Gadgets: Jul 20 2007, 12:31 AM |
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Jul 20 2007, 12:31 AM
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30 years ago, we had the likes of Soh Chin Aun, Santokh Singh, Mokthar Dahari and Arumugam in our national team. Those guys made Malaysian football great and if they could play today, they probably score 5 hat tricks in a row against the current useless national squad. Our standards have gone down the drain because of a sultan who is clueless about football. Throw out that useless old man and his cronies and there may come again when our national squad will go back to the golden age of football 30 years ago.
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Jul 20 2007, 12:34 AM
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QUOTE(THT United Gadgets @ Jul 20 2007, 01:29 AM) Now ah, who can remember even half of the national team today? This was unlike the days when the players were household names... Even today, i can still think back to the times when these guys were the IN thing: Akmal is a bit too short for european standard and lacks proper ball control and dribbling skills. Furhtermore he mixed with the malaysian league people hes skill also berterabur la now.- Azman Adnan and Rusdi Suparman (Selangor's twin terrors!) - Dollah Salleh (anchorman for Pahang) - Hashim Mustapha (Kelantan goal poacher, outscored foreigners like nobody's business) - Matlan Marjan (Sabah striker extraordinaire) - Zainal Abidin Hassan (Dollah's good friend and Pahang goal-getter) - Mehmet Durakovic (Selangor's pillar of strength in defense) - The one and only Shebby Singh (KL key defender during their years of winning the M'sia Cup three years in a row) - Lim Teong Kim (Hertha Berlin star) Of today's crop of players, only Akmal Rizal remains in my watchlist as this guy had the potential to make it big in Europe, if not for the injuries that curtailed much of his career... I'm seriously hoping that Akmal can get the goals for Selangor and maybe have European agents watching his progress before making a move for him! |
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Jul 20 2007, 01:22 AM
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did u guys watched TV3 news at 8 just now... do u know Lim Teong Kim is the coach for Bayern Munich youth squad?
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Jul 20 2007, 01:54 AM
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Um.. can we have the national squad's thread pinned? Since its our country's team
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Jul 20 2007, 04:16 AM
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QUOTE(Aztec @ Jul 20 2007, 12:20 AM) if u guys check out FIFA 98 got malaysian league inside.. yeah, those were the daysQUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 20 2007, 12:27 AM) Are you sure that time Malaysian league really good standard until can included in the video games??...... even as early as 10 years ago, malaysia football is still good............ then somehow it just went cuckoo..... QUOTE(nwk @ Jul 20 2007, 12:31 AM) 30 years ago, we had the likes of Soh Chin Aun, Santokh Singh, Mokthar Dahari and Arumugam in our national team. Those guys made Malaysian football great and if they could play today, they probably score 5 hat tricks in a row against the current useless national squad. Our standards have gone down the drain because of a corrected the bolded part |
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Jul 20 2007, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(sakaito @ Jul 20 2007, 01:22 AM) did u guys watched TV3 news at 8 just now... do u know Lim Teong Kim is the coach for Bayern Munich youth squad? This is pretty old news mate, he's been there for 8 years now. You are right to point out though that not many people know of this. If he were someone else, he might have already received a Datukship and been given free land. Too bad he isn't. Anyway he is back in KL with the Bayern Munich youth side for the upcoming tournament. Here's an interview between him and "The Star": QUOTE Teong Kim says sad state of affairs due to lack of infrastructure Kudos to him for settling in Germany and making good for himself. It's people like this that FAM should send overseas to pickup the game, not homesick kampung boys who whine about the weather and food. Instead of spending millions on people with absolutely zero qualification to run FAM, we should spend on him though I fail to see why he would ever want to come back.By ERIC SAMUEL PETALING JAYA: Former international Lim Teong Kim is not surprised at all over the sad state of affairs in Malaysian football. The assistant coach of Bayern Munich Under-19 football team said that the dismal showing of the national team in the Asian Cup Finals was expected and the lack of infrastructure had hindered the growth of the game in the country. "Bayern Munich are the top club in Germany. We have a very good infrastructure - five training fields and more coming up soon," said Teong Kim, who is here to check out the facilities for the club's participation in the Champions Youth Cup (CYC), which kicks off on Aug 8. Bayern Munich are in Group D and their matches against Malaysia, Chelsea and PSV Eindhoven will be played in Kuching. "We have a complete infrastructure to cater for the professional team and also the youth teams. In fact, we have 11 youth teams in age-group between eight and 23. The other clubs in the Bundesliga also have a similar set-up." In the Finals, Malaysia lost all three matches in Group C. They were thrashed by China (1-5) and Uzbekistan (0-5) and were beaten 0-2 by Iran. The 44-year-old Teong Kim said it was not fair to put the blame on the team when changes were not made to check the rot in the system. He added that he had left the country for almost two decades but he had not seen changes or concerted efforts to develop the game, even in his home state Malacca where he started out playing for at the age of 17. "When football is still the same here after so many years, how can we expect to see any changes to the game or standard? Why criticise the present batch of players and keep banging them on their heads for failures when no one cares for the development of the game," he said. "Football is a national agenda. I feel that every state should have an ideal infrastructure to develop the game. "I have been in Bayern Munich for eight years now. Even the eight-year-old players travel extensively to play in invitational tournaments to gain experience. There are eight professional coaches at the youth level and players get plenty of exposure. "The facilities are well-equipped with dressing rooms, rehabilitation rooms, physiotherapy, sauna and relaxation rooms. "In Germany, we have technical problems but no infrastructure problems. If there are no fields how can the coaches get to work? "The National Sports School in Bukit Jalil alone is not good enough. State FAs must get their infrastructure in place otherwise they cannot expect to produce results. "I am just trying to pass my experience and knowledge learnt in Bayern Munich. It is difficult to see success if changes are not made. There is a saying in Germany - changes bring prosperity, contentment brings complacency." Teong Kim was a member of the national team who won the gold medal in the Kuala Lumpur SEA Games in 1989. That was the last time the national senior team emerged as the champions of the regional international tournament. He added that there was no point in coaxing players to ply their trade abroad if they had no desire to go in the first place. "I left to play in the Bundesliga in 1988 because I had the desire to do it," said Teong Kim, who played for Division Two club Hertha Berlin. This post has been edited by Duke Red: Jul 20 2007, 11:13 AM |
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Jul 20 2007, 11:24 AM
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But we have spent so much on infrastructure and the cause is still infrastructure? Shouldn't it be manpower
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Jul 20 2007, 11:26 AM
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Jul 20 2007, 11:33 AM
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the sports complex in England or whatever?
The National Sports Complex???? |
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Jul 20 2007, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jul 20 2007, 11:11 AM) This is pretty old news mate, he's been there for 8 years now. You are right to point out though that not many people know of this. If he were someone else, he might have already received a Datukship and been given free land. Too bad he isn't. people like Lim Teong Kim will never come back to this god forsaken country with it's corrupted politicians and it's stupid boleh race. people like Lim Teong Kim will stay overseas where they know how to play good football.Anyway he is back in KL with the Bayern Munich youth side for the upcoming tournament. Here's an interview between him and "The Star": Kudos to him for settling in Germany and making good for himself. It's people like this that FAM should send overseas to pickup the game, not homesick kampung boys who whine about the weather and food. Instead of spending millions on people with absolutely zero qualification to run FAM, we should spend on him though I fail to see why he would ever want to come back. |
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Jul 20 2007, 11:33 AM) the sports complex in England or whatever? As of now, there still isn't a thing there and why the need to build it half way around the world when our kampung boys won't be able to adapt to the weather and food anyway?The National Sports Complex???? You are also just focusing on one part of infrastructure. What about the number of qualified coaches? Training regiments? Diets? Player exposure? etc. |
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jul 20 2007, 11:40 AM) As of now, there still isn't a thing there and why the need to build it half way around the world when our kampung boys won't be able to adapt to the weather and food anyway? i laugh at the part where u talked about the number of qualified coaches, Training regiments, Diets, Player exposure, etc. the current national squad as pathethic as they are now, will never be disciplined enough to handle any training regiment and diets no matter who coaches them and no matter how much exposure they get, they will never learn anything because their IQ is lower then that of a baboon.You are also just focusing on one part of infrastructure. What about the number of qualified coaches? Training regiments? Diets? Player exposure? etc. |
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jul 20 2007, 11:40 AM) As of now, there still isn't a thing there and why the need to build it half way around the world when our kampung boys won't be able to adapt to the weather and food anyway? Isn't that manpower? You are also just focusing on one part of infrastructure. What about the number of qualified coaches? Training regiments? Diets? Player exposure? etc. |
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Jul 20 2007, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 20 2007, 12:27 AM) Are you sure that time Malaysian league really good standard until can included in the video games??...... yeah..during SEMI-PRO time....every stadium is fully-packed and every state has their own heroes..there are also import player like...karel stromsik (selangor GK), abbas saad, alistair edwards, ervin boban (Johor), Marlon van der Sander (Trg) etc.. local star like Jalil Rambli, Matlan Marjan, Ariffin Osman, Badrulhisham Abdullah, Zubir Hashim, Radhi Mat Din, Khairul Azman, to name a few.. that time i was in standard 6 and my dad wif the PBSNT..so i get to watch the game and it was a different standard of present and in the past.. 12 years passed now since then, n i'm sad for what happen to our football scene now... |
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QUOTE(zc_squash @ Jul 19 2007, 07:28 PM) thank you for ur comment and now i'm just gonna show you how blank you are. Rubbish What not great ? .statistics and history don't lie. what was the proudest moment? Qualification to Moscow Olympics? Erm, anything else? Hey tell me, how could that be 'great'? Everybody is now talking about how good we were back then is because we really suck big time now. Yep, we were better team before this but "great"? Oh puhlezz don't lie to urself lil kid. go get some education twat. seeing that you are my fellow malaysian i'll give u a tip now. go to google.com and look up for the "great" and understand the definition before pretending to be smart, aite? And if you still wanna flame, PM me and leave this thread clean from your so-called wise opinion, fool. Okay, if you insist... alrite we were great...by malaysian standard that is. Hope you can finally sleep tonite... Awhhhh god.... 2x Olmp qualifier not just once , 2 x qualifier AFC finals : http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/13072007/3/s...ll-malaise.html 10x merdeka Champs : http://www.rsssf.com/tablesm/merdeka.html And it's no p*u*ssy tourney , the best teams in Asia , and we can still beat them and the best player ever in Asia : http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/cha-intl.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cha_Bum-Kun People with experience and whose opinions count agree: http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/13072007/3/s...ll-malaise.html Stop pretending to be a Malaysian and go back to Bangsar , sit down and find the nearest White and do what you do best . ANY more stats ? Joker This post has been edited by Haunkiem: Jul 20 2007, 12:46 PM |
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Hishamuddin wants to start training from young. that's good, PLEASE don't just train them in technical skills ...puuuhhleeassee
Aiyah, why argue? i also don't think that malaysia were ever GREAT. those ppl who say "make malaysia back like the old days" make it sound like we were in top 10 in the world or something last time. |
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Jul 20 2007, 02:38 PM
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State teams hould be banned from the start of professionalism era. Leaves local competitions to clubs.
State FA's should concentrate on player development and organising local state leagues and competition. In this way each state could become factories producing high quality players. The problem was most money that FAM given to FAs were used on the current state teams and hiring expensive low quality foreigners and left little for player development in their academies. So FAM, please no more state teams. state=politics |
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Jul 20 2007, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(NasiLemakMan @ Jul 20 2007, 02:38 PM) State teams hould be banned from the start of professionalism era. Leaves local competitions to clubs. I agree. Club sides are then handled privately and can manage their own affairs without at external influences from Football Manager playing politicians. Not too long ago when I was active in Futsal, you'd see club sides with their own sponsors, conducting their own training sessions. State FA's should concentrate on player development and organising local state leagues and competition. In this way each state could become factories producing high quality players. The problem was most money that FAM given to FAs were used on the current state teams and hiring expensive low quality foreigners and left little for player development in their academies. So FAM, please no more state teams. state=politics It's basic math actually. If the FA were to organise more state level competitions, the number of teams would increase. When there are more teams, there will be more players and hence a bigger pool to choose from. As it is right now, opportunities are limited which is a reason for the waning interest in the sport. |
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Just because you are a club don't mean there are no politics or money face
Look at my old club SCRC ( selangor chinese recreation club ) , ex div1 selangor . where are they now , in the 90's when prop prices went up , they also went up and sold the club , now just an empty waste waiting for development . same with Hong Chin. The old coach after 30 years still coaching but for YMCA juniors. Chinese youngsters now a lot Bangsar weirdos , no play the game. |
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dude...
did u read what lim teong kim said about bayern and other clubs in germany? each club got 11 youth teams under-12!!! damn... that's how u expand ur talent pool... and filter them... and develop them |
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Jul 20 2007, 03:57 PM
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But Ymca soccer is NOT well developed .
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But will we ever have the discipline? In one of my many psychedelic trips to Amsterdam many many moons ago I saw at Amsterdam Arena a bunch of kids being taught to 'slalom' the ball around traffic cones at around eight-ish (i think, but i wasn't 100% right... but it was definitely past dark
It was a far far cry from our school's PJ lessons where 30 of us would chase one ball! This post has been edited by madmoz: Jul 20 2007, 04:59 PM |
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zc_squash, i guess u r the one who need to do some googling. or not, you are just making a fool out of yerself.
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Jul 20 2007, 04:56 PM
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anyone know what's up with Titus James?
Check out this dude, Malaysian born, plays for Scotland Shaun Maloney This post has been edited by Absentee: Jul 20 2007, 05:12 PM |
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Jul 20 2007, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(Absentee @ Jul 20 2007, 04:56 PM) anyone know what's up with Titus James? smart fella, run away from this country.Check out this dude, Malaysian born, plays for Scotland Shaun Maloney |
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Jul 20 2007, 06:42 PM
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He run? No. He was brought away by his mother. :/
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Jul 21 2007, 12:47 AM
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well, he's better off there than here anyway.
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QUOTE(Absentee @ Jul 20 2007, 04:56 PM) anyone know what's up with Titus James? old new my fren Check out this dude, Malaysian born, plays for Scotland Shaun Maloney |
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Jul 21 2007, 11:46 AM
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hahaha...sorry la bro. i dont play fm.
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QUOTE(Haunkiem @ Jul 20 2007, 12:45 PM) Rubbish What not great ? . Hey dude, you did reply! LOL was the best teams in Asia back then anywhere near world standard at all? Ha ha, ok dude you win.... You are damn clueless...2x Olmp qualifier not just once , 2 x qualifier AFC finals : http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/13072007/3/s...ll-malaise.html 10x merdeka Champs : http://www.rsssf.com/tablesm/merdeka.html And it's no p*u*ssy tourney , the best teams in Asia , and we can still beat them and the best player ever in Asia : http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/cha-intl.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cha_Bum-Kun People with experience and whose opinions count agree: http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/13072007/3/s...ll-malaise.html Stop pretending to be a Malaysian and go back to Bangsar , sit down and find the nearest White and do what you do best . ANY more stats ? Joker Added on July 21, 2007, 5:50 pm QUOTE(ataris @ Jul 20 2007, 04:12 PM) zc_squash, i guess u r the one who need to do some googling. or not, you are just making a fool out of yerself. Blah blah blah... yada yada yada... I guess ur definition of 'great' has got some serious flaw. Erm, did we even made an impact in any Asia Cup edition before? I don't know but maybe you can tell me. Did we even made it to the quarter-final at least... I'm just curious. Maybe you the "real" Malaysian could tell me. By living in the so-called glory of past didn't make you a real Malaysian buddy. You are just letting our standard dropping even further. But yep, hey, at least Supermokh was great!This post has been edited by zc_squash: Jul 21 2007, 05:59 PM |
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we need a fresh idea from our young generation to manage fam
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Jul 21 2007, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(zc_squash @ Jul 21 2007, 05:43 PM) Hey dude, you did reply! LOL was the best teams in Asia back then anywhere near world standard at all? Ha ha, ok dude you win.... You are damn clueless... Ignorant statement. Added on July 21, 2007, 5:50 pm Blah blah blah... yada yada yada... I guess ur definition of 'great' has got some serious flaw. Erm, did we even made an impact in any Asia Cup edition before? I don't know but maybe you can tell me. Did we even made it to the quarter-final at least... I'm just curious. For a bunch of NON PAID AMATEURS , yes it is , very much so. Also , who are you to decide what is " great " ? Give us 1 good reason why we should believe you ? QUOTE(zc_squash @ Jul 21 2007, 05:43 PM) Maybe you the "real" Malaysian could tell me. By living in the so-called glory of past didn't make you a real Malaysian buddy. You are just letting our standard dropping even further. But yep, hey, at least Supermokh was great! Neither does hanging around Bangsar pretending to be something you're not . I'd rather live in the past than with the present set of goons ! Who wants to associate with losers - how stupid . Our standard cannot drop anymore , this is rock bottom , " buddy " . F*** , you are not only a fool but a moron . In case you don't know , Asian teams do not play Western teams in big tournaments unless it is the finals of the WC . In those days there are only 2 berths for the whole of Asia from Egypt to Japan ( includes Oceania too ) . For a bunch of NON PAID AMATEURS ( you do understand the meaning of this word ? why not ask your numerous white masters ? ) , they did damn well . When they did get a chance to play Western teams in serious games , they generally kicked their a*s*es: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mokhtar_Dahari Note : England B included 4 A team regulars on the night ( Joe Corrigan , Viv Anderson [ ManU and Arsenal ] , Gordon Hill [ Man U ] , Paul Mariner [ Ipswich]. Managed by Sir Bobby Robson , who later took England to WC semi finals . This post has been edited by Haunkiem: Jul 21 2007, 10:50 PM |
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QUOTE(spikeee @ Jul 20 2007, 01:23 PM) Hishamuddin wants to start training from young. that's good, PLEASE don't just train them in technical skills ...puuuhhleeassee Now only they have this idea? Aiyah, why argue? i also don't think that malaysia were ever GREAT. those ppl who say "make malaysia back like the old days" make it sound like we were in top 10 in the world or something last time. This post has been edited by TC_Boy: Jul 21 2007, 09:23 PM |
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Guys, got watch Iraq vs Viet. Altho Iraq leading, but i'm impressed wif how Vietnam play.
I remember when i was young, Malaysia use to beat them easily. |
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QUOTE(Haunkiem @ Jul 21 2007, 08:33 PM) Ignorant statement. Haha, you just wouldn't give up, eh? But then again, who the hell are YOU to say what is great and what is not too? Not living in present meaning you're not living the reality and hence not helping anyone at all and it also means you're a rubbish. Oh come on...not the England B team again... i've been hearing that way too much... lemme know things i don't know man... Being "great" definitely need more than that... it's just a simple logic but i'm guessing you are just way too retarded to even figure that out.For a bunch of NON PAID AMATEURS , yes it is , very much so. Also , who are you to decide what is " great " ? Give us 1 good reason why we should believe you ? Neither does hanging around Bangsar pretending to be something you're not . I'd rather live in the past than with the present set of goons ! Who wants to associate with losers - how stupid . Our standard cannot drop anymore , this is rock bottom , " buddy " . F*** , you are not only a fool but a moron . In case you don't know , Asian teams do not play Western teams in big tournaments unless it is the finals of the WC . In those days there are only 2 berths for the whole of Asia from Egypt to Japan ( includes Oceania too ) . For a bunch of NON PAID AMATEURS ( you do understand the meaning of this word ? why not ask your numerous white masters ? ) , they did damn well . When they did get a chance to play Western teams in serious games , they generally kicked their a*s*es: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mokhtar_Dahari Note : England B included 4 A team regulars on the night ( Joe Corrigan , Viv Anderson [ ManU and Arsenal ] , Gordon Hill [ Man U ] , Paul Mariner [ Ipswich]. Managed by Sir Bobby Robson , who later took England to WC semi finals . And what's with you and Bangsar anyway? What i am thinking is, you really love Bangsar.. u hang out there alot... but unfortunately everyone there hates such a peasant like you... And having being dissed like that sure cost a lot of damage to ur foolish pride and just to make urself feel better you come to bark around like this? Bah, ur one real sick kid. Ok i make a promise not to reply to a cocksocket like you anymore. Total waste of time. Ok ok, go ahead and bash me upside down again if that's the only kinda life you have...You win, if that really what you wanna hear, aite? Damn.. it's really hard dealing with kids these days. Added on July 21, 2007, 11:45 pm QUOTE(bravura @ Jul 21 2007, 10:53 PM) Guys, got watch Iraq vs Viet. Altho Iraq leading, but i'm impressed wif how Vietnam play. yep, played with pride and dignity I remember when i was young, Malaysia use to beat them easily. This post has been edited by zc_squash: Jul 21 2007, 11:49 PM |
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QUOTE(zc_squash @ Jul 21 2007, 11:43 PM) Haha, you just wouldn't give up, eh? But then again, who the hell are YOU to say what is great and what is not too? Not living in present meaning you're not living the reality and hence not helping anyone at all and it also means you're a rubbish. Give to up you ? dream on loser .I don't have to be anybody . It is you who are going against established fact , so explain yourself rather than just spewing out baseless views. But at least I have played the game competitively at School and County level , what have you done except put on your $200 Nike shirt and go to Bangsar to impress your white masters ? Your 2nd part doesn't make sense and shows you are panicking . Are you seriously suggesting that Malaysia did not achieve all that in the70s/80s. Are you mentally ill ? you sure sound like it . QUOTE(zc_squash @ Jul 21 2007, 11:43 PM) Oh come on...not the England B team again... i've been hearing that way too much... lemme know things i don't know man... Being "great" definitely need more than that... it's just a simple logic but i'm guessing you are just way too retarded to even figure that out. http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/13072007/3/s...ll-malaise.html http://www.rsssf.com/tablesm/merdeka.html Every single one of those England players were EPL 1st teamers : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977-78_in_English_football You work and you can't even play on the same field as a bunch of form 3ers . These guys had FULL time jobs and on top of that they played football for free and reach almost the very top of the game . For a bunch of NON PAID AMATEURS , yes it is truly GREAT . Which part of that don't you understand ? Looks like you are the only retard here QUOTE(zc_squash @ Jul 21 2007, 11:43 PM) And what's with you and Bangsar anyway? What i am thinking is, you really love Bangsar.. u hang out there alot... but unfortunately everyone there hates such a peasant like you... And having being dissed like that sure cost a lot of damage to ur foolish pride and just to make urself feel better you come to bark around like this? Unlike you I never go to Bangsar. QUOTE(zc_squash @ Jul 21 2007, 11:43 PM) Bah, ur one real sick kid. Ok i make a promise not to reply to a cocksocket like you anymore. Total waste of time. Ok ok, go ahead and bash me upside down again if that's the only kinda life you have...You win, if that really what you wanna hear, aite? Damn.. it's really hard dealing with kids these days. It seems not only are you the kid but a ignoramus one too . joker |
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QUOTE(bravura @ Jul 21 2007, 10:53 PM) Guys, got watch Iraq vs Viet. Altho Iraq leading, but i'm impressed wif how Vietnam play. haha, dats an understatement. msia actually used to thrash them 9-0, 10-0. nowadays they play for a draw and not lose...I remember when i was young, Malaysia use to beat them easily. |
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the government spend alot of money in the malaysia football for what?????how can this can happen???really don`t know what to say,very sad
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so we all know oredi, malaysian footballers are all lazy and do not take it seriously... even though they say training training, their minds are not... juz a lazy bunch of wasteful jerks doing meaningless stuff for the country... everyday keep running their mouths saying they are confident and comes out with shit... its better malaysia not to have a football team instead of having one...
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QUOTE(Haunkiem @ Jul 22 2007, 01:35 PM) A certain high profile minister with big links to the " elites " has been making the usual murmurings , which hints that he is going to position himself to take the top spot . quoted from another thread...There is no hint whatsoever that this guy has any experience in playing or coaching the game , and it looks like deja vu all over , another politician wanting to squeeze the already dry and dead football cow for his own purposes . I hope this doesn't happen but it is not looking good. GOVERNMENT ! How about someone like Shukor Salleh ? Bakri Ibni ? James Wong ? any of those would have 100 x more knowledge than some politician on the make . if this is true.... then we will had it.... the level of football is not going up.... |
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Ha Ha , how funny.
Football is a reflection on us in general . How can we ever improve in anything if a bunch of vain p*nd*ns are in charge and I am not just talking about footy. How to improve when people who have such insecurities and hatred insist on forcing their perverted values down the rest of us . When starting one thing in a certain place is deemed as stealing someone else's stardom ( though completely untrue )and therefore has to be denigrated . if you don't get a result then , start brownosing the one's in charge . WE will never improve as long as brownosing is the only skill we promote , WE DO NOT want to improve , full stop. |
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its definitely the management.
i stay in NZ football here is almost non existant. but their football ranking beat msia. why? management la.. what else. i doubt they have more talent than we have. in fact i seen much more talent in msia players. This post has been edited by EmperorMeng: Jul 22 2007, 04:04 PM |
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What happened to that Titus James guy in France?
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Jul 23 2007, 12:08 AM
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why cant all of the people ere in m'sia play football and not choose what sports to play...from what i see(my observation at school and uni) most malay play football from primary school up to university level..maybe the others should follow..
all im saying is football is a universal sport and should be participated by all people..if we can do that then we'll have a unique national team... only my opinion..dont fire me |
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QUOTE(hafizanuar @ Jul 23 2007, 12:08 AM) why cant all of the people ere in m'sia play football and not choose what sports to play...from what i see(my observation at school and uni) most malay play football from primary school up to university level..maybe the others should follow.. prolly the malays that play football doesnt wanna bcum pro bcoz nobody scout them n we have not enough scouts in this nation...s 4 the chinese n indian,mabe they more terrer in close court sports like hockey n basketball due 2 lack of stamina in running around a big field....no generalization intended...just my 2 sen all im saying is football is a universal sport and should be participated by all people..if we can do that then we'll have a unique national team... This post has been edited by skylinegtr34rule4life: Jul 23 2007, 12:18 AM |
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Playing basketball and hockey require a lot of stamina too. Stamina wise your statement is invalid.
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And what ? our national team displayed stamina ?
Like I say if you have played the game before , you will know that fitness wise they sucked ! Look at the Thais , non stop running vs the Aussies for all 90 mins . |
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QUOTE(Haunkiem @ Jul 23 2007, 02:13 AM) And what ? our national team displayed stamina ? agreed with u there... Like I say if you have played the game before , you will know that fitness wise they sucked ! Look at the Thais , non stop running vs the Aussies for all 90 mins . i mean look at viets... they have stamina to keep up with iraq til the end... really fought their hearts out. man, they got class... this is a team we used to beat a couple of years back.. now look at where they are... surely will rank higher than us. btw, what's all this nonsense about football not being great and whatnot? let me ask u zc... how many malaysian games have u been to? i mean like literally go to the stadium and watched? I was there when the greatest team played in stadium merdeka though i'm very young at that time, i do remember the atmosphere.. man, i tell u, makes u wanna represent ur country when u grow up. the team was bonded.... the have understanding of the game... of each other. not like our team nowadays. haih.... watched arumugam played... damn wanna be like him.. spiderman they called him... superb on goal.... i still go watch malaysia play even though they suck.... just hurts me man... now, i'll think twice to go to the stadium, or just sit home watch it via tv.... even the team from late 80s to early 90s was good.. til FAM banned Semi-pro league and came out with something else. glory days was here... and gone.. we were football giants once... how did we crash and burn? This post has been edited by sakaito: Jul 23 2007, 09:40 AM |
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QUOTE(Haunkiem @ Jul 22 2007, 12:59 AM) Give to up you ? dream on loser . Ok, one last time retarded retard...first of all, i dont go to bangsar too so stop pretending like you know my life aite, pu*ssy? Take care of yourself 1st.I don't have to be anybody . It is you who are going against established fact , so explain yourself rather than just spewing out baseless views. But at least I have played the game competitively at School and County level , what have you done except put on your $200 Nike shirt and go to Bangsar to impress your white masters ? Your 2nd part doesn't make sense and shows you are panicking . Are you seriously suggesting that Malaysia did not achieve all that in the70s/80s. Are you mentally ill ? you sure sound like it . Are you blind as well ? http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/13072007/3/s...ll-malaise.html http://www.rsssf.com/tablesm/merdeka.html Every single one of those England players were EPL 1st teamers : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977-78_in_English_football You work and you can't even play on the same field as a bunch of form 3ers . These guys had FULL time jobs and on top of that they played football for free and reach almost the very top of the game . For a bunch of NON PAID AMATEURS , yes it is truly GREAT . Which part of that don't you understand ? Looks like you are the only retard here Unlike you I never go to Bangsar. How can I be a kid if I was around during the 70's ? It seems not only are you the kid but a ignoramus one too . joker And, HOW THE HELL a team that never qualified to World Cup is any where near great? Yep, i said they were good. But great? Nope. One good match doesn't make a team great if you still havent figure it out with your pea brain. I panicking? More like you dude... Bangsar Bangsar Bangsar... Havent you got anything else to say? So, ur definition of 'great' is a bunch of non paid amateur played a 1-1 draw with an England B team with four England A regulars are great....? Goodness, go get a a damn brain scan next time before you speak. But really, i can't blame you. You're a person with such a low expectation and by doing a little make you feels 'great'. Ok maybe in better term, you're easily satisfied. Either way, you are just heading no where. And pity you, u're around already during the 70's but have got mind like a retarded 12-year-old. What did you mum feed u man? As hopeless as our national squad. Go and read your Harry Potter, fool. Man, i'm giving up on you. p/s: Did any Whites actually sodomized you before? You look really pissed with them. And oh, i'm pretty sure u were a 'great' player during your school days. Ha ha. Here, i give you back ur fav word: JOKER! Thank you for making my day. This post has been edited by zc_squash: Jul 23 2007, 10:07 AM |
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again.. i ask u.. how many games did u went to watch malaysia? how many games of chelsea/mu/arsenal/liverpool or any other EPL or foreign teams u watched on TV... or live in stadium? 1....2? none? shut the hell up... |
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Jul 23 2007, 12:55 PM
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The issue of greatness appears to be a subjective one given the ongoing argument. From a global perspective, we weren't great, because we have won nothing. From the perspective of Asian footballing standards, we were up there with the best, at a time where our continent was further behind our other counterparts than they are today. Greatness however is not always reflected in physical achievements, such as the number of trophies you have in your cabinet. I believe they can be immaterial as well. There are few that will deny names like Robin Friday or Earl "The Goal" Manifault were great in their own right, though they achieved little success in their careers. If you ask me, what was great about our team in the 70's was that we fought tooth and nail, against some of the biggest sides in football. We showed great courage, enthusiasm and passion for the game.
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Jul 23 2007, 01:56 PM
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I tink may be the main reason why we dont have squad depth is most of the players playing for Malaysia arent that great...May be there are scattedred around malaysia who definately so much better than the current squad.The thing is, Football doesnt really pay big money if u playing here..Thats why maybe those talented footballers rather work and have a good job for financial status..
Most of the players in current team may be school drop outs, or they cant afford to get a good job in life..thats why they have nothing else to do bside football.. As u can see Myteam nearly beat Msia in that frenly match due to shebby recruiting players around malaysia by promotion or telecast..I tink the kabinet should reconsider this,change the management,get in coaches and look for players around malaysia..i tink the pay for each person should rise to attract those talented players out there... Atm, with the current team, i think they sucked badly, and seriously had drop our pride... |
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Jul 23 2007, 02:25 PM
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It's true, footballers here don't get paid all that much, generally that is. Thing is, interest in football as a career option has dropped all together, considering you don't necessary have to ply your trade here. Academies like the BSS (Brazilian Soccer Schools - http://www.icfds.com/malaysia/) trains youngsters from a very young age and sends them abroad to their associate clubs like Middlesborough and Newcastle. if they do graduate. In short, opportunities to ply their trade overseas is not non-existent.
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QUOTE(Nemesis13 @ Jul 23 2007, 01:56 PM) I tink may be the main reason why we dont have squad depth is most of the players playing for Malaysia arent that great...May be there are scattedred around malaysia who definately so much better than the current squad.The thing is, Football doesnt really pay big money if u playing here..Thats why maybe those talented footballers rather work and have a good job for financial status.. well.."my team" played against what, the U20 squad with some senior players in it if not mistaken, so they can be considered young and lack experiences (Malaysia)..still malaysia won the match. Most of the players in current team may be school drop outs, or they cant afford to get a good job in life..thats why they have nothing else to do bside football.. As u can see Myteam nearly beat Msia in that frenly match due to shebby recruiting players around malaysia by promotion or telecast..I tink the kabinet should reconsider this,change the management,get in coaches and look for players around malaysia..i tink the pay for each person should rise to attract those talented players out there... Atm, with the current team, i think they sucked badly, and seriously had drop our pride... one more thing..the national players are not school drop outs! they are professional seleceted/represented from primary/secondary school -> state level -> national level. Dont think school drop outs can represent malaysia just like that? there must be a standard ere in Malaysia.. MSSM, Bukit Jalil Sports School, Football Academies in Malaysia..they are here to recruit the best in Malaysia from a very young age i guess..It's the player's mind set and determination that is lack, they dont have that burning desire to play for their national team...also, the management is very bad ...very very dissapointed --> national football becomes national issue |
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Jul 23 2007, 04:01 PM
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Jul 23 2007, 04:16 PM
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Malaysia football is as good as gone
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Jul 23 2007, 04:34 PM
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should make more bumis and chinese join the football...not only malays. Malaysia is racism bout football..
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Jul 23 2007, 05:12 PM
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we shud import more foreign players to play for malaysia... give them citizenship... just like singapore
4 enugh ler... eg. Kaka, Ronaldinho, Messi and Henry give watever they want... girls, money, land... just to play in our national squad. |
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Jul 23 2007, 08:07 PM
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they are HOPELESS......top management only know how to suck money
u see....the sultan also dont want to step down after this two heavy loss giving an excuse saying that he not afraid and a football lover if he really love our football, he should resign let our legend and other player such like soh chin aun to take the management they know how to improving youngster more than he do under his management, malaysia team is hopeless |
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Jul 23 2007, 08:44 PM
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malaysian football really sucks.
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Jul 23 2007, 08:45 PM
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TV3 news just now
Ibrahim Saad " Sekarang semua nak jadi hero, untuk peleceh orang lain, biarlah kita jadi hero untuk membina, bukan untuk peleceh" LoL...my foot la... U bina squad untuk dipeleceh. U mmg hero. |
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Jul 23 2007, 09:06 PM
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Jul 23 2007, 10:59 PM
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Jul 23 2007, 11:02 PM
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Have anyone read the star. Our old time footballer Lim Teong Kim is actually asst coach for Bayer Munich under-18. We did have talent ppl around. Just let these ppl to do the handling. For the sake of our football, politician please stay away from it! I think gov should start regulation for baning any politician or minister involve in any activities other than their job.
Malaysia football is like getting cancer, cancer from those business ppl. Take money, built these and that, organized these and that. But they are not profesional just spend the money around. Football is not business, you can't let ppl tender to handle project. They are killing the game. Yes we can survive in our business becoz we like in kampung. But football we are competing with international. That's why we can't survive. We are just jaguh kampung. This post has been edited by smwah: Jul 23 2007, 11:14 PM |
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Jul 23 2007, 11:27 PM
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yeah,take Teong Kim as coach and Dali Omar as technical director,if Karl Heinz Weigang join us back,we will get more advantage
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QUOTE(sakaito @ Jul 23 2007, 12:01 PM) zc for the sake of a mentally-challenged malaysian, perhaps i should again.. i ask u.. how many games did u went to watch malaysia? how many games of chelsea/mu/arsenal/liverpool or any other EPL or foreign teams u watched on TV... or live in stadium? 1....2? none? shut the hell up... Added on July 24, 2007, 1:30 am QUOTE(insane.kill @ Jul 23 2007, 04:34 PM) should make more bumis and chinese join the football...not only malays. Malaysia is racism bout football.. Any supporting facts?This post has been edited by zc_squash: Jul 24 2007, 01:30 AM |
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Jul 24 2007, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(smwah @ Jul 23 2007, 11:02 PM) Have anyone read the star. Our old time footballer Lim Teong Kim is actually asst coach for Bayer Munich under-18. We did have talent ppl around. Just let these ppl to do the handling. For the sake of our football, politician please stay away from it! I think gov should start regulation for baning any politician or minister involve in any activities other than their job. Yes mate, if you look a couple of pages back, we have discussed Teong Kim's success. He even played for Hertha Berlin prior to retiring.Malaysia football is like getting cancer, cancer from those business ppl. Take money, built these and that, organized these and that. But they are not profesional just spend the money around. Football is not business, you can't let ppl tender to handle project. They are killing the game. Yes we can survive in our business becoz we like in kampung. But football we are competing with international. That's why we can't survive. We are just jaguh kampung. |
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QUOTE(smwah @ Jul 23 2007, 11:02 PM) Have anyone read the star. Our old time footballer Lim Teong Kim is actually asst coach for Bayer Munich under-18. We did have talent ppl around. Just let these ppl to do the handling. For the sake of our football, politician please stay away from it! I think gov should start regulation for baning any politician or minister involve in any activities other than their job. he belong to probably the last group of footballer that walk on the field with passion. These days, you don't get that very often. The only problem with him helping the sport he love is that he is not politically savvy.Malaysia football is like getting cancer, cancer from those business ppl. Take money, built these and that, organized these and that. But they are not profesional just spend the money around. Football is not business, you can't let ppl tender to handle project. They are killing the game. Yes we can survive in our business becoz we like in kampung. But football we are competing with international. That's why we can't survive. We are just jaguh kampung. its very nice to read that someone like him is doing so well at such a great club. |
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Ibrahim Saad will leave FAM this August,but if another politician fill his position,nothing change,hope ex-footballer or sport scientist fill it
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not just that.. hope that shahidan will not be VP FAM!
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bring in import players and give them nationality..settle!
just like singapore..they lack talent is it? hehe This post has been edited by hafizanuar: Jul 25 2007, 02:24 PM |
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QUOTE(hafizanuar @ Jul 25 2007, 02:22 PM) bring in import players and give them nationality..settle! if i'm not mistaken, FAM won't accepted for those who has 2 nationality, like the old case Shaun Maloney, he's from Sabah, born in Scotland, now he play for Scotland national team... what a big missed just like singapore..they lack talent is it? hehe I'm still forgive Malaysian team... I'm still with them, even though we lost 10-0 or 50-0 huhu! |
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one word for msian football = BIAS!
btw i really hope that further improvement can be done to help save our nation's standard in football.. being one of the most popular sports, msia should at least display a standard of achievement.. not by bringing disgrace to us by conceding 12 goals and only scoring 1.. myteam program IMO is one of the big steps taken that can actually improve our nations standard in football.. there should be more programs similar to this in order to promote the game of football, hence achieving better quality teams in the near future.. |
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haha i only watch malaysian football during the time zainal abidin hassan still around, azman adnan was in top & also rusdi suparman, dollar salleh, only these few players only i can recall, others are all foreigners edi..haihz..disappointed, but nothing can be done. just watch EPL lor..
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QUOTE(kenzo @ Jul 26 2007, 11:57 AM) haha i only watch malaysian football during the time zainal abidin hassan still around, azman adnan was in top & also rusdi suparman, dollar salleh, only these few players only i can recall, others are all foreigners edi..haihz..disappointed, but nothing can be done. just watch EPL lor.. i second that......love how they played...... |
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QUOTE(hafizanuar @ Jul 23 2007, 12:08 AM) why cant all of the people ere in m'sia play football and not choose what sports to play...from what i see(my observation at school and uni) most malay play football from primary school up to university level..maybe the others should follow.. oohh.. i get what youre implying. u trying to say we should go play football whole day and get 10D in SPM , and still go into university? oh.. yeah... great. n u mean we have to score 1000 goals, and only then will we be chosen for the team?all im saying is football is a universal sport and should be participated by all people..if we can do that then we'll have a unique national team... only my opinion..dont fire me im talking from experience here, i used to know a fking good player dribbling and everything.. but guess what? the coach didnt want to see his face. no points for guessing his race? and btw, b4 u ask me how i got in to the team, its coz the keeper position wasnt taken. i was the only one who offered to be the keeper. otherwise, how do u think i couldve got in? n i was sick and tired of te team mainly composed of the coach's race. 10 ppl form his race went for the tryouts, bout 8 of them got it. and F*** he did that at the expense of better players. and you think forcing ppl to play sports which they dont like will make them great players? tell u wat, if u ask me to play netball, i wont go for practice. not even once. |
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jul 27 2007, 03:15 PM) oohh.. i get what youre implying. u trying to say we should go play football whole day and get 10D in SPM , and still go into university? oh.. yeah... great. n u mean we have to score 1000 goals, and only then will we be chosen for the team? u just cant blame the race.. just blame the coach u're referring to.. im talking from experience here, i used to know a fking good player dribbling and everything.. but guess what? the coach didnt want to see his face. no points for guessing his race? and btw, b4 u ask me how i got in to the team, its coz the keeper position wasnt taken. i was the only one who offered to be the keeper. otherwise, how do u think i couldve got in? n i was sick and tired of te team mainly composed of the coach's race. 10 ppl form his race went for the tryouts, bout 8 of them got it. and F*** he did that at the expense of better players. and you think forcing ppl to play sports which they dont like will make them great players? tell u wat, if u ask me to play netball, i wont go for practice. not even once. if u're having a prob with the coach, just find another team to play with.. its just as simple as that.. |
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jul 27 2007, 03:15 PM) oohh.. i get what youre implying. u trying to say we should go play football whole day and get 10D in SPM , and still go into university? oh.. yeah... great. n u mean we have to score 1000 goals, and only then will we be chosen for the team? you quoting me bro? i think u should read my post again..since when i said need to play football whole day long and get 10D in SPM! Scoring 1000 goals! I said that many "malay" play football from school up to when their in uni. Many chinese play basketball. Mix around la and not jsut specific to one sport if want to improve malaysian football! That my point... im talking from experience here, i used to know a fking good player dribbling and everything.. but guess what? the coach didnt want to see his face. no points for guessing his race? and btw, b4 u ask me how i got in to the team, its coz the keeper position wasnt taken. i was the only one who offered to be the keeper. otherwise, how do u think i couldve got in? n i was sick and tired of te team mainly composed of the coach's race. 10 ppl form his race went for the tryouts, bout 8 of them got it. and F*** he did that at the expense of better players. and you think forcing ppl to play sports which they dont like will make them great players? tell u wat, if u ask me to play netball, i wont go for practice. not even once. Forcing people to play sports they dont like huh? so im guessing most of u dont like football and dont support any football teams like Man United, Chelsea, Arsenal wateva. If u got a problem with ur coach for not selecting your 'ronaldinho' mate, then go burn his house la and dont quote and flame me! |
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QUOTE(JuNz-V @ Jul 26 2007, 05:31 AM) myteam program IMO is one of the big steps taken that can actually improve our nations standard in football.. there should be more programs similar to this in order to promote the game of football, hence achieving better quality teams in the near future.. yes they should invest more on this show instead of the crap one in a billion n akademi fantasy |
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sorry , don't know if you guys talked about this already , but i remember reading an article about Jorvan Vieira being our Under 20 team some years back and FAM fired him for under performance.
Now he's coaching Iraq into FINALS. LOL! Shows how smart the FAM is at judgement |
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Our Malaysian football team lacks these...
1. Fitness - our players train day and night, but their fitness level is nowhere close to other players outside Malaysia 2. A great coach - every team needs one, and thus far, we seem to have no luck in this matter, political issues are to blame too 3. Management - while our players are indeed being managed, they need to be monitored much more closely 4. Support - Malaysian fans seem to support other clubs more than anything, I still remember Manchester United Vs. Malaysia. It was a nightmare to find anyone wearing a yellow jersey. I could not believe it. While we can be fans of other clubs, we should remain close to our home team. 5. Skills - arguably the hardest to hone and most difficult to craft, but not impossible This is just my opinion. This is what I truly think we lack. This post has been edited by Games For Windows: Jul 29 2007, 01:03 AM |
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QUOTE(Games For Windows @ Jul 29 2007, 01:02 AM) Our Malaysian football team lacks these... i agree with you... especially number one... they dont take care of their daily foods like all other players do... its going to effect their performance... beside.. we need a very football-minded people up there in FAM rather than politician... all they think is money n name... c'mon~1. Fitness - our players train day and night, but their fitness level is nowhere close to other players outside Malaysia 2. A great coach - every team needs one, and thus far, we seem to have no luck in this matter, political issues are to blame too 3. Management - while our players are indeed being managed, they need to be monitored much more closely 4. Support - Malaysian fans seem to support other clubs more than anything, I still remember Manchester United Vs. Malaysia. It was a nightmare to find anyone wearing a yellow jersey. I could not believe it. While we can be fans of other clubs, we should remain close to our home team. 5. Skills - arguably the hardest to hone and most difficult to craft, but not impossible This is just my opinion. This is what I truly think we lack. |
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QUOTE(spikeee @ Jul 29 2007, 12:12 AM) sorry , don't know if you guys talked about this already , but i remember reading an article about Jorvan Vieira being our Under 20 team some years back and FAM fired him for under performance. that's why the problem with FAM they don't know football at allNow he's coaching Iraq into FINALS. LOL! Shows how smart the FAM is at judgement |
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i dun think we lack in skills or technique man..I stil remember one of our ex-national coach said tat Malaysian players do have skills and so but they lack the organization and body fitness tat's all..so if they can play more like Asians and less like EPL or major football league teams den i think we are capable of at least compete wit other Asian teams..
Btw plz dun bring in Racist claims into tis thread..Adol u despise ur coach for being bias in selection of players but it doesnt mean every coach will be bias..Its more like marginalization to me..If a Malay student were to go for selection for a chinese populated basketball team im sure da malay student wont get da nod amids he's a talented player.. This post has been edited by Reimao: Jul 29 2007, 02:22 PM |
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QUOTE(Reimao @ Jul 29 2007, 02:13 PM) i dun think we lack in skills or technique man..I stil remember one of our ex-national coach said tat Malaysian players do have skills and so but they lack the organization and body fitness tat's all..so if they can play more like Asians and less like EPL or major football league teams den i think we are capable of at least compete wit other Asian teams.. import coach from oversea so no racist problem occur.Btw plz dun bring in Racist claims into tis thread..Adol u despise ur coach for being bias in selection of players but it doesnt mean every coach will be bias..Its more like marginalization to me..If a Malay student were to go for selection for a chinese populated basketball team im sure da malay student wont get da nod amids he's a talented player.. |
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last week if i still can remember in one of the chinese paper stated from one of the assocation guys, they plan on putting the female team to play against our lame Malaysia Male team.
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Jul 30 2007, 01:37 PM
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6,112 posts Joined: Sep 2006 From: Earth |
We have had foreign coaches in the past. Claude Le Roy, Josef Venglos, Alan Harris and Bertalan Bicskei. The problem is that players are ill disciplined and cannot cope with hard training. They are full of excuses and there is nothing the coach can do about it because everyone at FAM, and most people in the entire country, are the same.
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Jul 30 2007, 01:54 PM
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2,125 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: shah alam / cyberjaya |
that's what slack la.. maybe the coach have to go down to village and find the real hardworking ppl.. town ppl usually lazy and always give excuses
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Jul 30 2007, 02:04 PM
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6,112 posts Joined: Sep 2006 From: Earth |
What we have to do is find a group of people who are willing to train together overseas for an extended period of time. We cannot build a championship winning side here simply because of our culture and habits. You have to take the kampung boy out of the kampung and dump him in an environment where he has to fight just to stay alive. This is why I think the sports complex in England can be beneficial.
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Jul 30 2007, 02:05 PM
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2,475 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Shah Alam |
So ashamed and malu. Iraq.. the country under war and troubled environment.. their national players training abroad, with poor facilites and players having relatives killed.. are the ASIAN CUP champions... while Malaysia.... the country where is peaceful and with 1st class facilities.. are shamefully beaten by the likes of China and Uzbekistan.. and are the laughing stock of international football.. Stupid FAM.
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Jul 30 2007, 05:48 PM
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1,681 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jul 30 2007, 02:04 PM) What we have to do is find a group of people who are willing to train together overseas for an extended period of time. We cannot build a championship winning side here simply because of our culture and habits. You have to take the kampung boy out of the kampung and dump him in an environment where he has to fight just to stay alive. This is why I think the sports complex in England can be beneficial. Except that the sports complex in England is a scam. Check this out:http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=18352 http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=18058 http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=18082 So much for our "professional performance centre" eh? Here's something else: http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=18617 Some quotes from this article: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by glozz: Jul 30 2007, 05:56 PM |
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Jul 31 2007, 09:47 AM
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164 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: Subang |
QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jul 30 2007, 02:04 PM) What we have to do is find a group of people who are willing to train together overseas for an extended period of time. We cannot build a championship winning side here simply because of our culture and habits. You have to take the kampung boy out of the kampung and dump him in an environment where he has to fight just to stay alive. This is why I think the sports complex in England can be beneficial. all the iraqis players trained and played in the arab's league except for one player |
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Jul 31 2007, 12:13 PM
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6,112 posts Joined: Sep 2006 From: Earth |
QUOTE(glozz @ Jul 30 2007, 05:48 PM) Except that the sports complex in England is a scam. Check this out: We all know that, I'm just trying to state one of it's positives. QUOTE(hafizanuar @ Jul 31 2007, 09:47 AM) all the iraqis players trained and played in the arab's league except for one player Precisely but the culture there is hardly the same as here isn't it? Malaysians are too laid back and have it too good. They live a comfortable life and easily grow complacent. They have to be put in a foreign environment which is uncomfortable for them, and not be pampered like little school girls. The Iraqi's have been through hell and back. They have lost friends, relatives and possessions. Read today's copy of the NST for more detail. Also covered in today's NST are poignant questions posed at Malaysian football. Much of it is centred towards having a multi-racial team, much like what I have been saying all the while. Also in it are questions regarding favouritism (e.g. Sultan's grand nephew getting handpicked for the team, certain races being ostracised). Some posters here have said not to play the racial card, but it's not I that started it. Like it or not, favouritism does exist and instead of avoiding the issue like all other things deemed 'sensitive', we should start dealing with it. Let us practice meritocracy. |
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Jul 31 2007, 05:38 PM
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4,669 posts Joined: Mar 2006 From: just now or what? |
Duke.... can we then decide not to take the kampung boy instead? Train up a bunch of boys in the city.. but sadly they prefer PS2 than sweating out in the field.
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Jul 31 2007, 05:43 PM
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672 posts Joined: May 2006 From: Emirates & Highbury |
As stated again and again....Malaysia needs to rebuild its team from scratch ! No room for politics and racism......
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Jul 31 2007, 05:44 PM
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1,681 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jul 31 2007, 12:13 PM) We all know that, I'm just trying to state one of it's positives. A scam with a positive; that'll be the first. |
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Jul 31 2007, 07:46 PM
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351 posts Joined: Dec 2006 From: Selangor |
now all the hype around malaysia's lousy football has already died.. I can bet that there will be no changes at all.
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Jul 31 2007, 09:07 PM
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4,716 posts Joined: May 2006 From: KL, Malaysia |
QUOTE(bonedragon @ Jul 31 2007, 07:46 PM) now all the hype around malaysia's lousy football has already died.. I can bet that there will be no changes at all. the hype is for temporary only just like that mongolian model's case. At first, few pages, then 2 pages, then 1 page, today i read 3/4 onlyMalaysia football issue.... one small column only |
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Aug 1 2007, 06:21 AM
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164 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: Subang |
QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 31 2007, 09:07 PM) the hype is for temporary only just like that mongolian model's case. At first, few pages, then 2 pages, then 1 page, today i read 3/4 only tonight there will be a show on TV3 called "360" investigating the Malaysia Football Issue if im not mistaken..a must watch Malaysia football issue.... one small column only |
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Aug 1 2007, 07:48 AM
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2,213 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: 45� 04' North 7� 40' East |
we can win big time at pesta bola merdeka..against maldives , perhap lesotho as well.
The paper will do malaysia proud " HARIMAU BAHAM maldives 6-0" maldives? muahahaha lesotho? ....errrrr try winnng people heart back like this? looks cheating to me. |
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Aug 1 2007, 10:07 AM
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1,658 posts Joined: Jul 2006 From: Spion Kop |
QUOTE(rEDs @ Aug 1 2007, 07:48 AM) we can win big time at pesta bola merdeka..against maldives , perhap lesotho as well. What I'm afraid of is you will see score like these. The paper will do malaysia proud " HARIMAU BAHAM maldives 6-0" maldives? muahahaha lesotho? ....errrrr try winnng people heart back like this? looks cheating to me. M'sia 0 Maldives 2 (don't forget Maldives held South Korea to draw) M'sia 0 Lesotho 3 |
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Aug 1 2007, 12:37 PM
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1,998 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: boooolehland |
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Aug 1 2007, 12:38 PM
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Aug 1 2007, 07:13 PM
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685 posts Joined: May 2007 From: \(u.u)/ |
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Aug 1 2007, 09:22 PM
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4,453 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: La Masia |
guy,do u watch 360 at TV3(9:00-9:30pm),mak andam,pondan and one org kurang siuman give their opinion about our football,surely our national footballer malu giler about this,pondan pun kutuk our football
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