Recently when I pass by the semenyih area, there are lots of new housing development projects over there. What do you guys think about that area? Is it a nice place to own a house there and live there? So far there are still lots of empty land waiting for some developers to build the houses or shops. Will there be a busy town in coming years ( of course traffic jam too) ?

Do u like to drive far to work / amenities / f&b / entertainments?

Well it's still nearer to KL vs those in N9 like Seremban 😁 which some call South KL 🤣

If you work in kajang, bangi, putrajaya then it is a good place to stay. Further than that, buy at your own risk.

No. Semenyih actually nearer to seremban than kl.

I stand corrected.

Actually after the property sector booming out in 2013 there hasnt been any new development.....except setia one at beranang.

A lot means you should try kepong metropolitan and opposite.

Actually what I'm trying to say is...

Semenyih is nearer to KL..
Seremban to KL more far

Get what I'm trying to say

Not Semenyih to Seremban distance...

Yeah you were right.
All are in the details....not good to read it off smart phone.

Imo, semenyih is a good place to live..nice new township such as EM, SEH, serene height, eco forest, diamond city, upcoming mutiara hills etc.. all those township is next to each other..u exit 1 township then infront of u entrance for other township..nice..

P/s: i'm no fan of semenyih..i'm always klang boy who travel daily to KL..haha

There is no better place than Semenyih. It’s near KL. Cheras and whatnots, down south is JB and Singapore. It sits in between. U must be crazy not to buy

If your budget is under 700k.... Then die die want new landed... No choice... Semenyih is ngam for you....

For distance, i think semenyih is nearer. But if time, i not sure will it be faster or not, as seremban u can use plus highway..

I always travel at plus highway near seremban area, and see the advertisement 'kerja di kl, tinggal di forest heights', lol. But forest heights house really are nice, and good place to stay too

Name only highway...
The jam starts from Nilai till KL CBD during morning rush hour... Around 1 hours drive like that...

Wait for d new highway to complete which link to silk highway, and direct to kl

Oh good news then..
When we can expect to completed the project?

In the paper it says june 2020

Until its launched, i have no idea

Okay.
Thanks for the update 🙏

Great place for retirement and waiting to move in to coffin.

Lol the total number of projects currently being built here in Semenyih is like 2X of Kota Kemuning-Rimbayu, BSP.

If today, you hear people staying there complaining about the road jam, you wait another few years. Semenyih will be 2x that.

canal city only got 4 developments. If die die want to add Gamuda Cove, its 5.

can name 8 projects run concurrently in semenyih?

I know 4 well known ones...EcoHills, eco majestic, eco forest and setia something, the one next to eco forest.

do share at least 4 others.

Semenyih better than Cyberjaya?

why retirement needs to hide in the far away place where no one will look for you?

Imo, cyberjaya much better than semenyih. Development size i think cyber is slightly bigger, but they already have a large mix of commercial and offices/work locations as well as unis. Semenyih has the same residential amount as cyber, but none of the commercial activity or work locations or unis.

Cyber also has a lot of government driven directives. Smart city and what not. Population wise cyber is also larger, population growth wise it is also faster. Many of the residential developments are already completed. The oversupply might need time to work out, but once the population moves in it will be one of the better places to live. Just imo.

Coz, when retire, u get all ur epf money

And remember, the more money you have, the more relatives u have

Now developers like building landed paradise in Semenyih

Setia Ecohill, Setia Ecohill 2, EcoMajestic, Setia Mayuri, EcoForest, Boustead Mutiara Hill, MKH Kajang East, Diamond City and many other pocket developments.

I know cyber is 3.2km (square) as it can be easily found in google. BUt do you know how big is Semenyih before you made the conclusion of Cyber is much BIGGER?


have you ever been to few of the nirwana places and admire the scenary there?

EPF reported that more than 70% of retirees will fully withdrew their EPF money by 55yo and spend it all.

maybe semenyih is a great place to hide from your debt collectors.

diamond city finished already rite? got new launch meh?

Mutiara hills also never see them launching anything in the past one year.

Might be worth considering if the MRT or MRT 2 line (or other public transportation line) is extended there.

Diamond City still got new launches

Pls excuse me. I meant the new developments in the pipeline. Ie, eco majestic, setio ecohill 1 and 2. Uem township, diamond city 1 and 2 etc. The ongoing township being developed. Cyberjaya is bigger than those townships together. I am making the assumption that it will not grow much further due to the weak market. Of course land size semenyih has more empty land. Although cyberjaya can also grow beyond its current borders.


I also did not say Cyberjaya was MUCH bigger. I said it was MUCH better. And development size, it is slightly larger than semenyih developments.

This post has been edited by flight: Dec 10 2019, 02:50 PM

You compared a 20+ yrs old township with a newbie that got gov backing?

Despite mex uni internationsl hqs gov hqs., lelong still aplenty...

The existing semenyih is 1/3rd the size of the new developments. Its a backwater, like dengkil. Maybe a bit bigger. There r no malls, nothing there.

Cyber sstarted construction in late 90's. Its 20 years old. Lelongs r from the huge oversupply that came in in 2014 onwards.

You need to compared semenyih w puncak alam, dengil, canal city n etc n not cyber.

Cyber has a 20+ head start....its not even fair. Cyber did celebrated its 20yrs milestione earlier. Compared to puchong which has a 10yrs start earlier, really heaven n earth.

Overall i think cyber performance is shameful, compared to say kota damansara n the likes.

This post has been edited by scarypoolparty: Dec 10 2019, 09:55 PM

Im talking about the next 10 yrs prospect. Kota damansara kota kemuning the landsize is less than 50% of cyberjaya land size.

Kota damansara got affordable housing portion, which pkns played its part, during its heyday before they changed name from Pusat Bandar Sungai Buloh, to Kota Damansara.

There’s really no comparing between developments. Everywhere got their advantages and also disadvantages. Each development matures at its own pace. Cyber, before mex was really hopeless. After mex, you see all the confos. We shall see whats gonna happen once MRT is up and running and ECRL (Putrajaya station) plays its part.

Semenyih, Lekas is good. Easy connection to Nilai or through Bandar Seri Putra Plus tol (then to KLIA). To kl, ok la.

Its affordable. Will take some time to mature, as population grew. Same situation like Puncak Alam where people flock for its affordability

If you want real fresh pork meat pepper soup and black sauce wine chicken, semenyih definitely a good place to go.

puncak alam not proven yet. their MKH parkhill project banged an unwanted award last year.....the most lelong landed township. And Cyberjaya banged the other one, most lelong units township.

the report is not by me. its data collected by auction house.

having bigger land size doesn't mean you will do better or have potential to do better.

check out Rawang and any northern places, how do they fared?

to me cyber is just a fancy name with corruption intent. started with apa sillycon valley and now turn into laughy joke. where is the silicon?

and next to cyber is the large piece of land that called Selangor Science Park 1 n 2. I haven't been back to cyber for years but last I know, only one Korean battery manufacturer and a pkns condo that badly built and couldn't get cf.

such a waste of prime land.

This post has been edited by scarypoolparty: Dec 11 2019, 11:44 AM

I think u misunderstand what i mean when i say cyber has bigger land size.

The larger land size translates to more supply that needs to be digested. So the time it takes to grow is longer. As demand picks up developers just build more, so prices dont move up. But when its done it will be a larger community.

Rawang is not well connected. There is very little planning. The northern parts arent well connected, theres a large reserve forest blocking development from moving in that direction. Look at the map. No notable universities.

Most importantly, the reason the northern parts didnt do well was because the promised airport that was supposed to be built wasnt built.

Guess where the airport was built?

30 mins south of cyberjaya.

This post has been edited by flight: Dec 11 2019, 02:10 PM

Would you say that the failure of cyber were due to
1. Greedy "political appointed land owner"?
2. No real big developer has sizeable land bank? Land was sold piece meal to individual owners hence there is no coherent development? And resulted in producing same type of dwelling same time that leads to over supply?
3. Moved from the original intent of sillicon valley to macam macam...like a blind leads another blinds yet still want to charge premium for restricted freehold land?

I think its maturing late, the original idea as a tech hub didnt work out. But i think the best is yet to come. I dont think it is a failure. Its just late.

10 yrs.....

If your property cant make money within 10 years, its considered a write off bcos no amount of appreciation will be enuf to cover the past years losses.

Even if you buy today, you still hope and pray it will outperformed in the next 10 yrs.

Opportunities dont wait. I consider cyber missed the chance while it can.

Now people are buying south of cyber whether landed or apartments.

I glad that there are still hopeful people like you hoping for miracle to happen. All but not lost.

Im not invested in cyber. Funny u say that ppl r buying south of cyber. The reason their buying south of cyber is because cyber is growing. So u think its going to be down and out for the next 10 years? If i was working near here id look for one of those 30 to 50% property from all those motivated sellers/auctions or some of those shoplots with prices below what it sold 10 years ago.

Places like semenyih might take 20 yrs if 10 yrs is not enough for cyber.


Or maybe some of the more attractive well known devs.

This post has been edited by flight: Dec 11 2019, 02:29 PM

Cyber is oversupplied now, if you have faith that Cyber will go up. Please go ahead and purchase now as there are bloody good deals at the moment.

Unfortunately office space is growing within Klang Valley (the actual one not the ones defined loosely).

Whether there will be growth out side of KV, only time will tell.

Generally any purchases within boundaries of the actual KV is a safe bet if purchase at fair/below market value.

Ppl buy south of cyber bcos its more affordable and the demographic also play an important part.

If cyber got potential it wont need to wait til 50% discount b4 eager investors sapu.

I seriously dun care if semenyih takes 20 or 50 yrs to develope. But if semenyih needs 20 yrs to wong, it means our economics
Is stagnant.

But i have better faith with semenyih bcos of one factor: siew york.

Ppl buy south if cyber if they cannot afford cyber. U mean the demographic must be less affluent?

Cyber still launching, there is still demand and still got ppl buying. Its just oversupplied.

Semenyih total development is about 3500 to 4000 acres. Its all residential township, launched in the hottest period of prop market, 2012 to 2015. Cyber is about 3700 acres. But its mixed with commercial office and industrial. Most importantly, cyber has had 20 years to slowly grow their commercial activity.

I think cyber also have siew york.

actually ahhh..
which consider as KV boundaries? Some say Serdang? Some say Bangi? heck some even mention Semenyih
(for South corridor)

Cyber/Putra has MRT2 connectivity, which will be a major convenience for those working in KL. Rly looking forward to that

No clear definition o..

Generally.. don't invest "bird no lay eggs" locations.

KL City and surrounding suburbs are fine over the long term. But Semenyih will need a long time. Especially since Kajang is still not "there" yet.

I predict.. the next thing would be Mahkota Cheras, Sg Long, Cheras South area because of EKVE. Plenty of good landed there around the 4xxk range.

This post has been edited by vckc: Dec 11 2019, 05:18 PM

Not siew york.

Its siew york factor...

Not the same

The dragon tail of property boom was 2012.
2013 can smell dust and still can sell but definitely not buy.
2014 2015 semua sangkut.

Yes cyber still launch...developer belakang mari raped earlier buyers with lower landed price.
For non vested buyers of course syiok lah....
For vested parties, can vommit pure blood....

This post has been edited by scarypoolparty: Dec 11 2019, 06:08 PM

ManutdGiggs 后知后觉

The bold part...
Hmm interesting......
At least it's nearer to KL CBD vs others in south 😁

New housing projects are everywhere... Only a matter can you afford to own one at the city or out of the city

We shall see.

For now Mahkota, Sg Long is undesirable because of the HORRENDOUS jam.

I predict that it will alleviate the congestion in Jalan Cheras.

If die die can only choose along this Southern area. I rather go for Sg long, Mahkota or balakong.

My relative has a double storey unit in Sg. Long, who in the right mind would want to stay in Sg. Long?

Horrendous jam in and out of Sg. Long, Bandar Mahkota and Balakong. By the time you go in and out of those places you can alrady reach Semenyih in less than half that time.

F

My relative has a double storey unit in Sg. Long. Sg. Long is like dead during the day (sometimes at night too) and many houses in Sg. Long are vacant

Furthermore Sg. Long, Balakong and Bandar Mahkota's got terrible jam in and out of those places. By the time you get in and come out from those places, you can reach Semenyih in less than half of that time.

I worked in Cyber before, Cyber is definetely a failure as I know many property agents who try to rent or sell their units but nobody wants. Customers come see, see and they go away. Ask them why, and they say very isolated, no public transportation, no access, very far away from KL/PJ, totally dead place - like ghost town, majority neighbouring units vacant, no club house, some developments not enough facilities etc.

Actually many people working in Cyber come from nearby areas like Puchong, Sri Kembangan, Serdang, Balakong, Kajang, Semenyih and Cheras.

flight - "Semenyih total development is about 3500 to 4000 acres. Its all residential township, launched in the hottest period of prop market, 2012 to 2015. Cyber is about 3700 acres. But its mixed with commercial office and industrial. Most importantly, cyber has had 20 years to slowly grow their commercial activity".

Wrong! Semenyih is also mixed with commercial, industrial and residential townships.

Yes, Puchong, Sri Kembangan, Serdang, Balakong, Kajang, Semenyih and Cheras. Most important commi and resi areas are mostly closer too each other, walking friendly distance. Overall still better than Cyber.

I think they miss calculated as our whether here is too hot most of the time and can be often raining. The cyber type of style far far and isolated design where each places are too far away from each other. This kind of design more suitable in cooler and dry weather countries at the west or Australia.

Im not the expert la. But u seem to have a vested interest.

When i say commercial i mean some developments r completely commercial. Not mixed townships. Like malls. Or where the majority of the development is commercial.

flight

you can support cyber all you want, its your prerogative but to dismiss everything and anything other forumers said about cyber is pure ignorance.

your mind already made up that any developments outside cyber IF to be better than cyber has to be exactly like Cyber BUT better.

you should know that both Putrajaya and Cyber are purposely built township from scratch and their goals are to create Gov Centre and Sillicon Valley.

now what has Cyber turned into????? not 3 not 4 as cantonese said it. its not silicon valley for sure. Not higher education hub for sure, not residential for sure, not full commercial also for sure, no siew York factor for sure, not wong after hours for sure. but one sure thing - lelong market darling. Well at least cyber excel in one thing that other townships failed to achieve since Bukit Tak Beruntung.

honestly to say cyber is ghost town is greatly misleading. Bcos I went there few times, I couldn't even find one ghost there.

Semenyih area traffic still bad, not much improving.
Y not Kajang area, like Kajang2, Tropicana Height?

The reason i like cyber is cause its cheap with good prospects. I prefer pj. But u need to pay millions there

Im not dismissing ajything btw. Cyber isnt theee yet, if u invested in tge last decade u would be underwater now.

This post has been edited by flight: Dec 17 2019, 03:19 PM

name me one place that under gov initiative, sell high and hope for higher, but fell flat on ground, then the rise of phoenix happened and trumps all to become champion????????

cyber has its prime came and gone. MRT hospital Chinese school apa cyber Sentral will only provide life support nia.

Cyber with no government support also will rise la. The airportis down there.

U got all these donkey initiative is a tailwind. Not a headwind.

KLCC is a government initiative ok.

Both cbj and airport have been in existence for >20 years.

I added the pictures of the area in 1999, 2010, and 2018.

The development is clearly moving towards the southern side.

Its still happening every single year.

Courtesy of google timelapse. Those interested should check it out.

Poctures tell a thousand words.


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Its got the Studio factor

rise in lelong units????

klia was before cyber. did cyber take advantages of the aiport factor?

boss why can't use your old account to comment liao... Miss your old account leh....

I am not invested in cyber la....

But i look at some of the condos. Build quality is good. Concept also decent. Last time sell 650k. Now lelong can get 350k.

Persqft rm230.

High quality build, swimming pool and clubhouse. . . ... center of cyberjaya.

Edit: of course some sifu will say auction no good la. Property very lousy no demand la. But in kl pj this price will get u a middle to low cost apartment. In cyber this is middle upper to upper end condo. Looks modern and the opportunity will close once the lelong units get sold off. The earlier buyers paid more than 650k for these condo units.

This post has been edited by flight: Dec 18 2019, 06:09 PM

Cyberjaya is a good town. Even here also talk about cyberjaya.

It has a wow factor 😂

No doubt. But how well equipped? If fund not enough how to maintain.

90% of the owners bought at 650k. I think most of them dont have problem in paying the maintenance fee. I keep talking about cyber i forgot this is semenyih thread.

It depends........ maintenance for luxury not cheap.

Hello folks, after 3 years, any change of thoughts? I'm currently looking into both area Semenyih and cyberjaya, is everything still the same?