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TSxyekit
post Dec 5 2019, 10:34 AM, updated 4y ago

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Dear Biker Base,

I observed that bikes tend to hold their value better compared against cars.

What is the depreciation (in %) like for bikes of different categories, and which type of bikes hold their value best?

Categories being kapchai, scooters, sports, touring and superbikes, over 1-5 yr range.


Thanks!

basilisk
post Dec 5 2019, 11:19 AM

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i hv been observing certain used bike price.

looks like it is determined by dealers.
they say dealers are king, they determine the life n death of a brand /model.
n dealers all pakat together...

their reasons will be of cos.. buyers demand.. bla bla..

compare used price of z900 vs old mt09.
z650 vs old mt07...
ajaibman
post Dec 5 2019, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Dec 5 2019, 11:19 AM)
i hv been observing certain used bike price.

looks like it is determined by dealers.
they say dealers are king, they determine the life n death of a brand /model.
n dealers all pakat together...

their reasons will be of cos.. buyers demand.. bla bla..

compare used price of z900 vs old mt09.
z650 vs old mt07...
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True.. goes to all brands...

If you want to sell to dealers or trade in.. its at their mercy..

best is you sell ur self to direct buyer better...
TSxyekit
post Dec 5 2019, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Dec 5 2019, 11:19 AM)
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looks like it is determined by dealers.
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compare used price of z900 vs old mt09.
z650 vs old mt07...
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Quickly comparing them prices

Kawasaki Z900
2019 NEW RM 47K @ https://www.zigwheels.my/new-motorcycles/ka.../z900-abs/price
2018 USED RM 39K @ https://www.mudah.my/2018+Kawasaki+Z+900-79692570.htm
2017 USED RM 39K @ https://www.mudah.my/2017+Kawasaki+Z+900+Z900-79380894.htm

3 yrs depreciation = 39K / 47K = 83% value held ... NOT BAD for the dealers.

Yamaha MT 09
2019 NEW RM 49K @ https://www.zigwheels.my/new-motorcycles/yamaha/mt-09
2017 USD RM 40K @ https://www.mudah.my/YAMAHA+MT+09+TRACER+MT...on-79822306.htm
2015 USED RM 34K @ https://www.mudah.my/2015+Yamaha+MT09+MT+09...on-79863029.htm

4 yrs depreciation = 34K / 49K = 70% value held

Feel free to correct my simple math above if I made a mistake.

Of course this is assuming cash purchases. The lost will be much much higher if purchased under shop loan installments (which can see a 25% interest on the total loan amount spread over 6 yrs).

And then there is the user trade-in values which tend to be lower than displayed by dealers in the link above.
basilisk
post Dec 5 2019, 03:46 PM

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they will c the condition of bike, milage, added part, demand, features to determine the price.

dealers favour yamaha, honda, then kawasaki.

z900 cheapest is ~35-36k
this frm welly, milage jz less than 7k.

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This post has been edited by basilisk: Dec 5 2019, 03:56 PM
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post Dec 5 2019, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Dec 5 2019, 03:46 PM)
they will c the condition of bike, milage, added part, demand, features to determine the price.

dealers favour yamaha, honda, then kawasaki.

z900 cheapest is ~35-36k
this frm welly, milage jz less than 7k.

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Is the mileage can be trusted as per advertising? We all know it can be adjusted
basilisk
post Dec 5 2019, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(redjol @ Dec 5 2019, 08:12 PM)
Is the mileage can be trusted as per advertising? We all know it can be adjusted
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i heard ppl say can be adjusted, but how true is tht?

almost every one is hearing someone say tht it can be adjusted.

somebody need to show some proof, instead of listening frm salesman or pomen.

if all buyer dont trust the 'low milage' then dealer how?
adjust but dont make it too low? lol..

search on google also did not turn out any solid results apart frm stopping the meter frm running..

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ok can use tool like this ..??

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/33031137630.h...qS1575549134436

can buyer track the previous owner to ask/verify ?

This post has been edited by basilisk: Dec 5 2019, 08:55 PM
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post Dec 6 2019, 12:09 AM

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for kapchai... the price for 2nd hand is not bad. but depends also on kapchai or bikes la.

say like fz, belang if tolak got no value already. but for those quite in demand kapchai like ysuku, lc still got value. even old ex5 still got value.

ktm pulak... well 2014 mia ktm now selling rm4-5k jek. truk gila harga jatuh lol...

but sportsbike, superbike.... this one is really crazy lol... ive seen shops selling a 2005 zx6r for like almost rm30k lol

and dont make me start talking about r6, that thing never goes down lol.... takut tgk harga even thou its 2008 -2009 still fetch almost rm40k
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post Dec 6 2019, 11:24 AM

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4 cylinder bike tend to hold more value ... but that goes to jepunis brand mostly and S1000RR....

But again it depends on the model ....

2 Cylinder bike that retains good resale value.. Barley DAVIDSON...
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post Dec 8 2019, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Dec 5 2019, 08:25 PM)
i heard ppl say can be adjusted, but how true is tht?

almost every one is hearing someone say tht it can be adjusted.

somebody need to show some proof, instead of listening frm salesman or pomen.

if all buyer dont trust the 'low milage' then dealer how?
adjust but dont make it too low? lol..

search on google also did not turn out any solid results apart frm stopping the meter frm running..

*********

ok can use tool like this ..??

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/33031137630.h...qS1575549134436

can buyer track the previous owner to ask/verify ?
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Yes. I can confirm that mileage can be adjusted.

I previously went to view a used 2012 ER6 from a private dealer. After arrived at his place on the agreed time, the bike still haven't arrived yet.
I found out that it's a Terengganu bike, he bought it from a private seller there and tow the bike all the way to KL.

He called the towing-guy. The dude said will arrive in 10 minutes, got some delay because of the jam.

So I just waited there, and I am the first person to view the bike. Checked everything, the mileage of this bike was around 60K km.

The next day, I checked on Mudah. I saw that exact bike.
Same black color, same number plate.

The mileage on the picture was shown at 16km. Jeez.
Then I knew that the mileage is not original.

Never went back to the private dealer anymore.

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post Dec 8 2019, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(piccologist @ Dec 8 2019, 05:02 PM)
Yes. I can confirm that mileage can be adjusted.
Never went back to the private dealer anymore.
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thx for d info.
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post Dec 8 2019, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(piccologist @ Dec 8 2019, 05:02 PM)
Yes. I can confirm that mileage can be adjusted.

I previously went to view a used 2012 ER6 from a private dealer. After arrived at his place on the agreed time, the bike still haven't arrived yet.
I found out that it's a Terengganu bike, he bought it from a private seller there and tow the bike all the way to KL.

He called the towing-guy. The dude said will arrive in 10 minutes, got some delay because of the jam.

So I just waited there, and I am the first person to view the bike. Checked everything, the mileage of this bike was around 60K km.

The next day, I checked on Mudah. I saw that exact bike.
Same black color, same number plate.

The mileage on the picture was shown at 16km. Jeez.
Then I knew that the mileage is not original.

Never went back to the private dealer anymore.
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The bike odometer is analog or digital? Wondering if the odometer can be adjusted easily on digital

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post Dec 8 2019, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(TanJy1814 @ Dec 8 2019, 08:32 PM)
The bike odometer is analog or digital? Wondering if the odometer can be adjusted easily on digital
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er6n is digital of cos.

TSxyekit
post Dec 9 2019, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Dec 6 2019, 12:09 AM)
for kapchai... the price for 2nd hand is not bad. but depends also on kapchai or bikes la.

say like fz, belang if tolak got no value already. but for those quite in demand kapchai like ysuku, lc still got value. even old ex5 still got value.

ktm pulak... well 2014 mia ktm now selling rm4-5k jek. truk gila harga jatuh lol...

but sportsbike, superbike.... this one is really crazy lol... ive seen shops selling a 2005 zx6r for like almost rm30k lol

and dont make me start talking about r6, that thing never goes down lol.... takut tgk harga even thou its 2008 -2009 still fetch almost rm40k
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So generally bikes have good resale value (save for black sheeps like KTM) provided they were originally purchased at RRP (outside of high interest loans like Aeon and Singer).
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post Dec 9 2019, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(xyekit @ Dec 9 2019, 09:41 AM)
So generally bikes have good resale value (save for black sheeps like KTM) provided they were originally purchased at RRP (outside of high interest loans like Aeon and Singer).
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depen on wht brand.

ppl said ' jual timbang kilo' u noe?

or u trade in oso d taukey dowan...
basilisk
post Dec 19 2019, 10:35 AM

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z900

use this tered to record used bike price over the years... lol

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TSxyekit
post Dec 19 2019, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Dec 19 2019, 10:35 AM)
z900

use this tered to record used bike price over the years... lol 

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This one is April 2017 model?
https://www.motomalaysia.com/kawasaki-z900-...specs-malaysia/

RRP OTR RM 49,000
Now RM 35,000

Depreciation = 1.0 - (RM 35,000 / RM 49,000) = 0.2857 = 28.57%

Depreciation over 2 years and 8 months from April 2017 (as at 19.12.2019).

Pretty good!
basilisk
post Dec 19 2019, 01:08 PM

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lai lai..

ducati monster 795 2012...

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basilisk
post Dec 19 2019, 01:21 PM

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alek jek...

unrestore, enjin hidup, gran can change name,
mebe can sell @ price u bought 30y ago...

if restore ....

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post Dec 21 2019, 02:46 PM

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My 2015 PCX is worth rm3xxx only trade in price. Ask many shops same answer. 2 months ago still worth rm5xxx. Really shocking.

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