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post Nov 25 2019, 10:16 PM, updated 10 months ago

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post Nov 25 2019, 10:18 PM

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do inside submarine you guys works in aircond? or sweaty and stuffy af?
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post Nov 25 2019, 10:19 PM

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post Nov 25 2019, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(dexaran @ Nov 25 2019, 10:18 PM)
do inside submarine you guys works in aircond? or sweaty and stuffy af?
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post Nov 25 2019, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(lhdn @ Nov 25 2019, 10:24 PM)
Submarine always got plumbing problem?
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U mean??
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post Nov 25 2019, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Nov 25 2019, 11:25 PM)
U mean??
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I mean do you guys have no plumbing issue like sumbat sumbat or something? How you guys dispose the waste while in submarine?
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post Nov 25 2019, 10:27 PM

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post Nov 25 2019, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Nov 25 2019, 10:24 PM)
being as a submariner....
Since it's /k, how much the salary of a helmsman?
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post Nov 25 2019, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(lhdn @ Nov 25 2019, 10:26 PM)
I mean do you guys have no plumbing issue like sumbat sumbat or something? How you guys dispose the waste while in submarine?
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Yup....it could happen. Which caused by external/foreign object which blocked the seawater inlet. What we do to clear is to blow high pressure thru the piping system to clear it.
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post Nov 25 2019, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(Saltiez @ Nov 25 2019, 10:27 PM)
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Yup we have.....scorpene user club; consists of france, chile, malaysia, india & brazil. We have own discussion group, as well as conferences
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post Nov 25 2019, 11:22 PM

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hey ltz, this subs are using diesel right? how long does the air intake scope when you guys want to run the engine

i mean,how deep is the subs when you guys want to run the engine at submerge at the same time
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post Nov 25 2019, 11:25 PM

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stupid question, how you guys berak and pee ah?

Same concept like aeroplane, will remove once at jetty?

Same goes to food supplies?

And, how long can travel without refuel or back to jetty?
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post Nov 25 2019, 11:29 PM

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post Nov 25 2019, 11:38 PM

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1) Any new weaponry update for MY sub excluding Exocet MM40 Block 2?

2) Got any minisub attached to it? laugh.gif

3) Why the back water turbine fan of the sub is closed/keep covered when it is in dry dock...as i know each sub has its own so called acoustic sound signature (correct me if im wrong) depending on its structure like hull shape, water/torpedoes inlet, fan shape....

4) Which company run the maintenance? local based firm ie Boustead (Transfer of technology/knowledge) or foreign firm

5) How you detect other enemy's sub? U umpan the enemy first to reveals its location?

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post Nov 25 2019, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(dexaran @ Nov 25 2019, 11:22 PM)
hey ltz, this subs are using diesel right? how long does the air intake scope when you guys want to run the engine

i mean,how deep is the subs when you guys want to run the engine at submerge at the same time
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Depending on the sub size.... some 14 meters, some 16 meters.... its calculated from the keel depth to the waterline
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post Nov 25 2019, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(2feidei @ Nov 25 2019, 11:25 PM)
stupid question, how you guys berak and pee ah?

Same concept like aeroplane, will remove once at jetty?

Same goes to food supplies?

And, how long can travel without refuel or back to jetty?
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Berak/pee....all stored inside sewage lock. If its full, it will be blown out from the sub.

Sub can sustain longer than surface ship, eventhough its a conventional....because of hybrid system. For scorpene, we can sustain 50 days at sea.
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post Nov 25 2019, 11:45 PM

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I used to play silent hunter 1 PC game back in 1996. Since i really sucked at using torpedo to sink enemy warships, i just took my sweet time to sink an imperial navy battleship using a DECK GUN after 30 or more shell shots.

So my question: why there is no more DECK GUN installed on modern submarines? You gotta have it for personal defence or to take a pot shot at small ships right?
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post Nov 25 2019, 11:46 PM

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is scorpene actually a good sub?

why everyday in news say cannot selam la this la that la
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post Nov 25 2019, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(Szzz @ Nov 25 2019, 11:46 PM)
is scorpene actually a good sub?

why everyday in news say cannot selam la this la that la
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for our water sea...it is good already....im not expecting sub like virgina class to garrisoning our maritime (really fat sub) laugh.gif
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post Nov 25 2019, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(Szzz @ Nov 25 2019, 11:46 PM)
is scorpene actually a good sub?

why everyday in news say cannot selam la this la that la
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If its not a good sub, there will be no new customers for the manufacturer. Till now 4 countries are using scorpene. What makes it good is..... the hydrodynamic shape of the hull which among the most silent sub ever built. It can carry many weapons compared to other conventional subs.

But dont compare with SSN.....its in other class. They have forever powerplant & speed

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post Nov 25 2019, 11:58 PM

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korang tak pegi check the radioactive leak claim kat tengah2 laut china selatan ke?

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post Nov 26 2019, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(C-Fu @ Nov 25 2019, 11:58 PM)
korang tak pegi check the radioactive leak claim kat tengah2 laut china selatan ke?
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Which source did u get the info??
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post Nov 26 2019, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Nov 26 2019, 12:02 AM)
Which source did u get the info??
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orang je claim. taktau betul ke idak.
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post Nov 26 2019, 12:12 AM

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If in aeroplane can jump use parachute. Is there any parachute for submarine.? In case of emergency .
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Nov 25 2019, 11:45 PM)

So my question: why there is no more DECK GUN installed on modern submarines? You gotta have it for personal defence or to take a pot shot at small ships right?
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Modern torpedoes are much more accurate and efficient, and the deck gun consumes space as well as (I ASSUME) greatly increases detectability, due to its irregular shape

Wasn't a problem against WW2 sonar but now no

QUOTE(LTZ @ Nov 25 2019, 11:52 PM)
If its not a  good sub, there will be no new customers for the manufacturer. Till now 4 countries are using scorpene. What makes it good is..... the hydrodynamic shape of the hull which among the most silent sub ever built. It can carry many weapons compared to other conventional subs.

But dont compare with SSN.....its in other class. They have forever powerplant & speed
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Germans sold a lot of SSKs too though. How do they compare? e.g. Type 214

range and speed is one thing but SSK is quieter than SSN what right? no reactor

QUOTE(C-Fu @ Nov 25 2019, 11:58 PM)
korang tak pegi check the radioactive leak claim kat tengah2 laut china selatan ke?
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what bullshit websites have you been reading blink.gif
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have you guys seen any real (real) big fishes while in the ocean ?
possible to collect marine/sea life data while on missions ?
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post Nov 26 2019, 12:27 AM

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Company same ke
Better ask for refund or warranty
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post Nov 26 2019, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(gengkey01 @ Nov 26 2019, 12:12 AM)
If in aeroplane can jump use parachute. Is there any parachute for submarine.? In case of emergency .
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MkXI escape suit... but only for depth less than 180m, but still risky because rapid ascend can explode ur lung.



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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Nov 26 2019, 12:13 AM)
Modern torpedoes are much more accurate and efficient, and the deck gun consumes space as well as (I ASSUME) greatly increases detectability, due to its irregular shape

Wasn't a problem against WW2 sonar but now no
Germans sold a lot of SSKs too though. How do they compare? e.g. Type 214

range and speed is one thing but SSK is quieter than SSN what right? no reactor
what bullshit websites have you been reading blink.gif
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post Nov 26 2019, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(Eoma @ Nov 26 2019, 12:14 AM)
have you guys seen any real (real) big fishes while in the ocean ?
possible to collect marine/sea life data while on missions ?
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Ppl mistaken military sub has windows or camera to see outside..... which is not. Window does not give u range advantage at all.... how far can u see under the sea?? We dont speak in meters for detection range, we talk about kilometers, which only soundwave can provide.

Using passive sonar,we could detect the present of biologics around us. Yes, we could collect the data if we are required to do so

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post Nov 26 2019, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Nov 25 2019, 10:24 PM)
I am here not to be praised...... I am here to share my knowledge & experience being as a submariner.... as I know, just less hundreds of us only in Malaysia. U can ask me...And I could answer as long as u are serious
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Not trolling.
When TLDM brought back the submarine from France to Malaysia, does TLDM need to submit any "flight plans" (like how airlines do) to some governing body or nations? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Nov 26 2019, 08:48 AM)
Ppl mistaken military sub has windows or camera to see outside..... which is not. Window does not give u range advantage at all.... how far can u see under the sea?? We dont speak in meters for detection range, we talk about kilometers, which only soundwave can provide.

Using passive sonar,we could detect the present of biologics around us. Yes, we could collect the data if we are required to do so
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Speaking about soundwaves, when you were underwater in the sub, have you heard any whales? Or dolphins? Or some marine life?
Is it possible to hear through the submarine's hull? hmm.gif
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post Nov 26 2019, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Nov 26 2019, 09:34 AM)
Not trolling.
When TLDM brought back the submarine from France to Malaysia, does TLDM need to submit any "flight plans" (like how airlines do) to some governing body or nations? hmm.gif
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Not required... but to enter port of calls we need to submit the requirement thru agents. When transitting thru international waters & territorial waters no need
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Nov 26 2019, 10:35 AM)
Not required... but to enter port of calls we need to submit the requirement thru agents. When transitting thru international waters & territorial waters no need
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If in that case, is there a possibility of collision with another sub in the vicinity?
Or can the subs somehow "hear" each other in the water?
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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Nov 26 2019, 09:36 AM)
Speaking about soundwaves, when you were underwater in the sub, have you heard any whales? Or dolphins? Or some marine life?
Is it possible to hear through the submarine's hull?  hmm.gif
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Yes...always. we could differentiate the sound from which biologics
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serious question, how many times u intercept other intruding vessels from beneath and go 'surprise muthafucka, wat r u doing in malaysian waters'

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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Nov 26 2019, 10:45 AM)
If in that case, is there a possibility of collision with another sub in the vicinity?
Or can the subs somehow "hear" each other in the water?
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Yup....it happened. One of it between french & UK subs
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Nov 26 2019, 10:46 AM)
Yes...always. we could differentiate the sound from which biologics
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Nov 26 2019, 10:50 AM)
Yup....it happened. One of it between french & UK subs
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Submarine will crash with another enemy submarine or not? Since both tries to be as stealthily as possible?
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post Nov 26 2019, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(JasonTheGreat @ Nov 26 2019, 11:05 AM)
Submarine will crash with another enemy  submarine or not? Since both tries to be as stealthily as possible?
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Yes...possibility is there. It happened.... also sub with surface ship
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What's the strangest thing that has happened/you experienced while on operation?
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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Nov 26 2019, 11:06 AM)
what is the standard operating temperature of the sub in MY waters/seas?
how to determine if its non hostile or both subs just ignore and continue to monitor each other?
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Surface temperature is higher than deep depth....hence giving negative sound velocity profile... giving much advantage for sub to hide, but also hamper sub safety when coming to periscope depth. Temperature can be 25 - 35 deg on surface, deeper can be 14 deg

When sub meet each other...its always hostile. We could not identify each other. 3 steps: avoid collision, avoid counter detection & track her.
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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Nov 26 2019, 11:19 AM)
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For navigation light at surface
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diesel engine run on diesel and oxygen and produce lots of carbon footprint. where to get oxygen and where to store those carbon dioxide. and won't diesel engine be so noisy?
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Nov 25 2019, 11:42 PM)
Berak/pee....all stored inside sewage lock. If its full, it will be blown out from the sub.

Sub can sustain longer than surface ship, eventhough its a conventional....because of hybrid system. For scorpene, we can sustain 50 days at sea.
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Wait... Whaaaat?? Release poop into sea? Isnt that polluting?
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QUOTE(hiyyl @ Nov 26 2019, 11:23 AM)
Wait... Whaaaat?? Release poop into sea? Isnt that polluting?
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Human waste is biodegradable and it helps to fertilize the environment.
Furthermore, it is so deep in the ocean and in the middle of nowhere...it probably wont come into contact with human populations.
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Nov 26 2019, 11:20 AM)
For navigation light at surface
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So when are these navigation lights are used? When docking / berlabuh?

Have you watched Hunter Killer submarine movie? hmm.gif
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If yes, what do you think of the movie as a submariner yourself?

Any similarities with actual submarine situation you might have experienced?
For example; when the USS Arkansas was diving steeply, you can see the crews standing senget.
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Wait... Whaaaat?? Release poop into sea? Isnt that polluting?
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Do u think it effect much??
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I've been meaning to ask this.

Is it true that normal sailors will know nothing about their destination and where are they headed, with only a select few officers & crew that will know?

For example you could order the sub to do random maneuvers just 50 nautical miles off Sepanggar and 10 hours later say you are nearing Singapore waters will the crew in the torpedo room believe this?

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its nice to read many q&a here when nobody's trolling.

i wonder if we need to inform countries when we passing thru their water borders in subs during operation?

if no need, wont it trigger international conflict if kantoi?


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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Nov 26 2019, 11:35 AM)
So when are these navigation lights are used? When docking / berlabuh?

Have you watched Hunter Killer submarine movie?  hmm.gif
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If yes, what do you think of the movie as a submariner yourself?

Any similarities with actual submarine situation you might have experienced?
For example; when the USS Arkansas was diving steeply, you can see the crews standing senget.
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go to 2.30 they also senget when diving


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ade awek ka dlm current sub crew? if yes, as which crew?
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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Nov 26 2019, 12:01 PM)
go to 2.30  they also senget when diving


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Yah! nod.gif
Senget weiii... I wonder if LTZ have experienced this. shocking.gif
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is there a doctor on board?
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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Nov 26 2019, 12:06 PM)
Yah!  nod.gif
Senget weiii... I wonder if LTZ have experienced this.  shocking.gif
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Nov 26 2019, 10:25 AM)
I know la pandai

was just asking if they ever did went there to check or not that's all

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how do you store months of fresh food supply in a submarine when on a mission?
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QUOTE(C-Fu @ Nov 26 2019, 12:50 PM)
I know la pandai

was just asking if they ever did went there to check or not that's all

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it's like looking out your window, see the sun is shining, skies are clear, and then walking out to check for rain
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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Nov 26 2019, 11:35 AM)
So when are these navigation lights are used? When docking / berlabuh?

Have you watched Hunter Killer submarine movie?  hmm.gif
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If yes, what do you think of the movie as a submariner yourself?

Any similarities with actual submarine situation you might have experienced?
For example; when the USS Arkansas was diving steeply, you can see the crews standing senget.
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Navigation light on surface navigation.

Yup...when ascending or decending, we stand like that.... if not secure properly other things will start to slide.
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 26 2019, 11:42 AM)
I've been meaning to ask this.

Is it true that normal sailors will know nothing about their destination and where are they headed, with only a select few officers & crew that will know?

For example you could order the sub to do random maneuvers just 50 nautical miles off Sepanggar and 10 hours later say you are nearing Singapore waters will the crew in the torpedo room believe this?
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For SSBN yes... for conventional sub, not much to hide from crews. Normally ops crews know, but engineering crews care less about this.
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QUOTE(Theira @ Nov 26 2019, 11:42 AM)
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QUOTE(No Reason @ Nov 26 2019, 11:57 AM)
its nice to read many q&a here when nobody's trolling.

i wonder if we need to inform countries when we passing thru their water borders in subs during operation?

if no need, wont it trigger international conflict if kantoi?
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Of course sub is designed to be silent, discreet..... so we wont inform anybody. If kantoi, will trigger the whole fleet to search for us
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ade awek ka dlm current sub crew? if yes, as which crew?
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Yah!  nod.gif
Senget weiii... I wonder if LTZ have experienced this.  shocking.gif
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1. If there is any news from family, example death of family members, reach you guys?
2. How long in any mission usually last?
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1. HQ will not inform us, to avoid jeopardizing the mission. We will only know when reaching jetty....very sad 😭

2. Depend.... 2 - 3 weeks. Even a month
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how do you store months of fresh food supply in a submarine when on a mission?
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Difficult man..... some of us need to sleep with the cartoons of mineral waters. And during sailing, sometimes we need to carry those mineral bottles to certain area to balance the sub.
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do inside submarine you guys works in aircond? or sweaty and stuffy af?
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Mesti bai..... nk tunjuk tp x de dlm rekod plak video or pic dia
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We cant simply post any sub interior scene for public....especially in ops room
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Difficult man..... some of us need to sleep with the cartoons of mineral waters. And during sailing, sometimes we need to carry those mineral bottles to certain area to balance the sub.
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We cant simply post any sub interior scene for public....especially in ops room
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Navigation light on surface navigation.

Yup...when ascending or decending, we stand like that.... if not secure properly other things will start to slide.
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Mesti bai..... nk tunjuk tp x de dlm rekod plak video or pic dia
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When the sub surfaces, is there any chance for the crews to go out and mandi air laut like in the picture?
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We cant simply post any sub interior scene for public....especially in ops room
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Can post pictures of normal non-sensitive areas please? notworthy.gif

For example;
Does a submarine toilet really look like this?
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Or looks more modern?
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What about the galley? nod.gif
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The waste then eject outside or keep until surface then dispose it
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Depend...if can, bottle...can keep inside. But food waste which cant store long due to smell, it will be injected outside
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When the sub surfaces, is there any chance for the crews to go out and mandi air laut like in the picture?
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Difficult man..... some of us need to sleep with the cartoons of mineral waters. And during sailing, sometimes we need to carry those mineral bottles to certain area to balance the sub.
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Ah was just gonna ask about this. Are there showers or do you guys live on wet wipes?

Do you need to be mindful and keep noise down at all times (like light footsteps, no banging doors) or does it not matter?
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Ah was just gonna ask about this. Are there showers or do you guys live on wet wipes?

Do you need to be mindful and keep noise down at all times (like light footsteps, no banging doors) or does it not matter?
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Shower...yes we have 1 shower. But cant use everyday because of water rationing. Can shower once every 3-4 days. We use wet wipes to clean our body.

Not all times.... if we have to setup ultra quiet then we will do that. Stop everything, stay put... no movement, till ordered to fall out
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1. HQ will not inform us, to avoid jeopardizing the mission. We will only know when reaching jetty....very sad 😭

2. Depend.... 2 - 3 weeks. Even a month
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Nov 25 2019, 11:45 PM)
I used to play silent hunter 1 PC game back in 1996. Since i really sucked at using torpedo to sink enemy warships, i just took my sweet time to sink an imperial navy battleship using  a DECK GUN after 30 or more shell shots.

So my question: why there is no more DECK GUN installed on modern submarines? You gotta have it for personal defence or to take a pot shot at small ships right?
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WW2 era "submarines" are not truly submarines, but submersible ships. The implication is that subs of that era travel so much better on water surface than when submerged, so they actually spent most of the time on surface, and only submerge when stealth / evasion is required. Hence, it was feasible to have deck gun on subs as its effectiveness in harassing unarmed merchant ships outweighed the hydrodynamic penalty it carries.

In sharp contrast to WW2 subs, modern subs' hydrodynamic hull design makes them so much more suitable to travel submerged. Also, gone are the days of visual target acquisition when anything can be detected by hugely improved surface radar and underwater sonar detection technologies. Not to mention improved torpedo target tracking. Hence, surface gun battle for subs is no longer feasible. Subs have become the stealthy assassin from the depths. Something must go terribly wrong for a modern sub to get entangled in close range surface gun fight.

Anyway, mind story a bit how you actually sunk a battleship with 30+ shells without getting sunk? I would get rekt almost immediately by mere destroyer guns if I stayed on surface longer than a minute lol. Not sure if SH1 was much easier to play than SH3.
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Shower...yes we have 1 shower. But cant use everyday because of water rationing. Can shower once every 3-4 days. We use wet wipes to clean our body.

Not all times.... if we have to setup ultra quiet then we will do that. Stop everything, stay put... no movement, till ordered to fall out
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Cool. What is the most interesting marine life you've encountered on sonar?

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1) Since you meet submariners from other countries occasionally and talk through your own groups, chats, etc. - you are all considered friends right? But once in the water when carrying out missions, each crew other would consider each other as enemies? Don't communicate with one another to try to find out and say, hey remember me - we meet last time or are in the same chat group or something like that?

2) Does alarm ringing, playing music loudly, shouting or screaming in the sub will cause it to be discovered? I know knocking on metal walls and pipes probably would.

3) Does anyone suffer mental distress during long missions? Especially those who are claustrophobic or uncomfortable of closed spaces, but then again probably they would test this before selecting the crew.
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Cool. What is the most interesting marine life you've encountered on sonar?
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The noisiest is shrimp...they make noise when in groups. Whale do make tup tup noise like mechanical sound, but not in similar tempo. Dolphin, as usual...like to follow any ship, as well as sub.
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QUOTE(Chanwsan @ Nov 26 2019, 07:27 PM)
WW2 era "submarines" are not truly submarines, but submersible ships. The implication is that subs of that era travel so much better on water surface than when submerged, so they actually spent most of the time on surface, and only submerge when stealth / evasion is required. Hence, it was feasible to have deck gun on subs as its effectiveness in harassing unarmed merchant ships outweighed the hydrodynamic penalty it carries.

In sharp contrast to WW2 subs, modern subs' hydrodynamic hull design makes them so much more suitable to travel submerged. Also, gone are the days of visual target acquisition when anything can be detected by hugely improved surface radar and underwater sonar detection technologies. Not to mention improved torpedo target tracking. Hence, surface gun battle for subs is no longer feasible. Subs have become the stealthy assassin from the depths. Something must go terribly wrong for a modern sub to get entangled in close range surface gun fight.

Anyway, mind story a bit how you actually sunk a battleship with 30+ shells without getting sunk? I would get rekt almost immediately by mere destroyer guns if I stayed on surface longer than a minute lol. Not sure if SH1 was much easier to play than SH3.
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Well, i guess SH1 AI enemy ships kinda stupid. They did fire back but not too frequent & not too accurate.

That’s why i kinda brave to bring my sub quite near to them and blast away using deck gun. laugh.gif

Thanks for the explaination btw. thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Nov 26 2019, 08:15 PM)
The noisiest is shrimp...they make noise when in groups. Whale do make tup tup noise like mechanical sound, but not in similar tempo. Dolphin, as usual...like to follow any ship, as well as sub.
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Nov 26 2019, 08:15 PM)
The noisiest is shrimp...they make noise when in groups. Whale do make tup tup noise like mechanical sound, but not in similar tempo. Dolphin, as usual...like to follow any ship, as well as sub.
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Lol never thought shrimps would be noisy. Thanks for layaning us and sharing.
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This one not that noisy.... we experienced very noisy one.
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Wondering how many crew able to fit into scorpene?
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Nov 25 2019, 11:45 PM)
I used to play silent hunter 1 PC game back in 1996. Since i really sucked at using torpedo to sink enemy warships, i just took my sweet time to sink an imperial navy battleship using  a DECK GUN after 30 or more shell shots.

So my question: why there is no more DECK GUN installed on modern submarines? You gotta have it for personal defence or to take a pot shot at small ships right?
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Why need deck gun when you can store a few Carl Gustaf M4 and shoot away.
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please record next and post here...want to see what can be seen  brows.gif
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Not authorised to do so.... unless if its already in media then I can
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LTZ tunjuk sikit meals dalam sub mcm mana
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LTZ tunjuk sikit meals dalam sub mcm mana
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Similar with outside.... cook creativity for crews moral
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Similar with outside.... cook creativity for crews moral
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nanti share gambo food boleh??share la bekfes,lunch and diner...kami pun nak tau  laugh.gif
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Yup....it could happen. Which caused by external/foreign object which blocked the seawater inlet. What we do to clear is to blow high pressure thru the piping system to clear it.
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So the waste of ur vera is released to the open ocean?
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So the waste of ur vera is released to the open ocean?
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Yes.... Submariners....compared to other sailors, we contribute to only small percent.
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Yes....  Submariners....compared to other sailors, we contribute to only small percent.
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Nov 27 2019, 08:16 PM)
Almost all of us said heavier....which is true. But wrong reason... only u gave the closest answer.

Here is the answer....

As we know fuel oil is lighter than water. When we consumed oil, we cant leave the tank empty. The vapour inside, with the pressure effect can create diesel effect which can cause explosion. So, the avoid that, seawater will be filled inside, hence sub becomes heavier. To compensate, we have to drain some other water tanks. Balancing a sub is a trickier job.....
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No difference. Its not a car. The weight of the submarine is supported by the buoyancy of water. You only change the volume of air in the ballast tanks.
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do any military exercise use live torps...
wonder how do weapon officer guide torpedo via wire?
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They got AIP 😭😭
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Do crews still need to run and bunch up at fore / aft during crash dive or surfacing like in WW2 era?
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sub don have water maker like vessel on which they can produce clean water from sea water?
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Do crews still need to run and bunch up at fore / aft during crash dive or surfacing like in WW2 era?
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Some subs still need to do that.. but not scorpene
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Its RO system.... turning seawater to freshwater
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1. Officers share also....only captain has his own little room.

2. Yup... hot bunk. We do this... 3 person share 2 bunks

3. Every person is assigned with own bunks. Some needs to sleep beside, on top or below torpedo
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Since the sub is 24 hours in operation, how is the shift like?
It is like 1st shift is 7am - 3pm, 2nd shift 3pm - 10pm, 3rd shift 10pm - 7am?
Or each shift is 12 hours long then rotate?

If crew sakit / demam, is there replacement on board?
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After firing the torpedo, if the torpedo misses the target, where does it go to?
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It is wire guided. If missed, we can take it back in manual wire guidance to head in back to target. Or ... it will perform automatic search within the designated search box.

Yes, possibility to hit another target is there, since it only detect acoustic signal, not dedicated signal.
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QUOTE(FidelisGVR @ Nov 29 2019, 10:14 AM)
step one in getting revenge for the sunken ARA General Belgrano?
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Belgrano was Argentinian la bro....This is Brazilian.....
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 29 2019, 10:43 AM)
Belgrano was Argentinian la bro....This is Brazilian.....
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oh shoot haha! ya you're right. mea culpa.
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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Nov 29 2019, 03:21 PM)
If the torpedo has been fired and not exploded / detonated, since you can guide it, is it possible to bring back to your own sub for recovery and re-use (repair and use new guidance wiring, etc..) the same torpedo later?
Or if fired already, then cannot re-use?
Is there some situation where you are required to do OT (overtime) where you need to do double shift? Or triple shift?
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No u dont... u wont believe the system right??

There is no OT term in military, eventhough u work 24hrs, we receive the same pay
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QUOTE(slaveone @ Nov 29 2019, 04:15 PM)
so nuke based sub dont have this issue..?
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Since they dont use diesel as main propulsion.... yes. But still, they have other factors which can effect this buoyancy too.
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post Nov 29 2019, 06:52 PM

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Do you encounter underwater turbulence when sailing through typhoon, storm, tsunami or earthquake? Probably the effect would be greater if you are closer to the surface, or can dive deep enough to not feel the effect?
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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Dec 3 2019, 08:25 AM)
Ada kat online bossku...  biggrin.gif  brows.gif
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Ooo ok2.... 😄
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Dec 12 2019, 04:14 PM)
Confirm same. I am not navy submariner but I had been there wt them.
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Pergh! notworthy.gif
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post Dec 12 2019, 05:13 PM

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if it is static, how can it dive/move?
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QUOTE(Micozole @ Dec 12 2019, 05:13 PM)
if it is static, how can it dive/move?
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Using ballast tank.... by doing this, manufacturer can weigh the sub perfectly whether later on they need to put more weight or reduce it. The red buoy will be used for this purpose

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