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post Nov 25 2019, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(Szzz @ Nov 25 2019, 11:46 PM)
is scorpene actually a good sub?

why everyday in news say cannot selam la this la that la
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for our water sea...it is good already....im not expecting sub like virgina class to garrisoning our maritime (really fat sub) laugh.gif
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post Nov 25 2019, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(Szzz @ Nov 25 2019, 11:46 PM)
is scorpene actually a good sub?

why everyday in news say cannot selam la this la that la
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If its not a good sub, there will be no new customers for the manufacturer. Till now 4 countries are using scorpene. What makes it good is..... the hydrodynamic shape of the hull which among the most silent sub ever built. It can carry many weapons compared to other conventional subs.

But dont compare with SSN.....its in other class. They have forever powerplant & speed

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post Nov 25 2019, 11:58 PM

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korang tak pegi check the radioactive leak claim kat tengah2 laut china selatan ke?

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post Nov 26 2019, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(C-Fu @ Nov 25 2019, 11:58 PM)
korang tak pegi check the radioactive leak claim kat tengah2 laut china selatan ke?
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Which source did u get the info??
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post Nov 26 2019, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Nov 26 2019, 12:02 AM)
Which source did u get the info??
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orang je claim. taktau betul ke idak.
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post Nov 26 2019, 12:12 AM

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If in aeroplane can jump use parachute. Is there any parachute for submarine.? In case of emergency .
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post Nov 26 2019, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Nov 25 2019, 11:45 PM)

So my question: why there is no more DECK GUN installed on modern submarines? You gotta have it for personal defence or to take a pot shot at small ships right?
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Modern torpedoes are much more accurate and efficient, and the deck gun consumes space as well as (I ASSUME) greatly increases detectability, due to its irregular shape

Wasn't a problem against WW2 sonar but now no

QUOTE(LTZ @ Nov 25 2019, 11:52 PM)
If its not a  good sub, there will be no new customers for the manufacturer. Till now 4 countries are using scorpene. What makes it good is..... the hydrodynamic shape of the hull which among the most silent sub ever built. It can carry many weapons compared to other conventional subs.

But dont compare with SSN.....its in other class. They have forever powerplant & speed
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Germans sold a lot of SSKs too though. How do they compare? e.g. Type 214

range and speed is one thing but SSK is quieter than SSN what right? no reactor

QUOTE(C-Fu @ Nov 25 2019, 11:58 PM)
korang tak pegi check the radioactive leak claim kat tengah2 laut china selatan ke?
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what bullshit websites have you been reading blink.gif
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post Nov 26 2019, 12:14 AM

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have you guys seen any real (real) big fishes while in the ocean ?
possible to collect marine/sea life data while on missions ?
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post Nov 26 2019, 12:27 AM

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Company same ke
Better ask for refund or warranty
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post Nov 26 2019, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(gengkey01 @ Nov 26 2019, 12:12 AM)
If in aeroplane can jump use parachute. Is there any parachute for submarine.? In case of emergency .
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MkXI escape suit... but only for depth less than 180m, but still risky because rapid ascend can explode ur lung.



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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Nov 26 2019, 12:13 AM)
Modern torpedoes are much more accurate and efficient, and the deck gun consumes space as well as (I ASSUME) greatly increases detectability, due to its irregular shape

Wasn't a problem against WW2 sonar but now no
Germans sold a lot of SSKs too though. How do they compare? e.g. Type 214

range and speed is one thing but SSK is quieter than SSN what right? no reactor
what bullshit websites have you been reading blink.gif
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post Nov 26 2019, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(Eoma @ Nov 26 2019, 12:14 AM)
have you guys seen any real (real) big fishes while in the ocean ?
possible to collect marine/sea life data while on missions ?
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Ppl mistaken military sub has windows or camera to see outside..... which is not. Window does not give u range advantage at all.... how far can u see under the sea?? We dont speak in meters for detection range, we talk about kilometers, which only soundwave can provide.

Using passive sonar,we could detect the present of biologics around us. Yes, we could collect the data if we are required to do so

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post Nov 26 2019, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Nov 25 2019, 10:24 PM)
I am here not to be praised...... I am here to share my knowledge & experience being as a submariner.... as I know, just less hundreds of us only in Malaysia. U can ask me...And I could answer as long as u are serious
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Not trolling.
When TLDM brought back the submarine from France to Malaysia, does TLDM need to submit any "flight plans" (like how airlines do) to some governing body or nations? hmm.gif
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post Nov 26 2019, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Nov 26 2019, 08:48 AM)
Ppl mistaken military sub has windows or camera to see outside..... which is not. Window does not give u range advantage at all.... how far can u see under the sea?? We dont speak in meters for detection range, we talk about kilometers, which only soundwave can provide.

Using passive sonar,we could detect the present of biologics around us. Yes, we could collect the data if we are required to do so
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Speaking about soundwaves, when you were underwater in the sub, have you heard any whales? Or dolphins? Or some marine life?
Is it possible to hear through the submarine's hull? hmm.gif
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post Nov 26 2019, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(C-Fu @ Nov 26 2019, 02:03 AM)
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https://gizmodo.com/no-china-did-not-secret...outh-1839988450
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post Nov 26 2019, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Nov 26 2019, 09:34 AM)
Not trolling.
When TLDM brought back the submarine from France to Malaysia, does TLDM need to submit any "flight plans" (like how airlines do) to some governing body or nations? hmm.gif
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Not required... but to enter port of calls we need to submit the requirement thru agents. When transitting thru international waters & territorial waters no need
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post Nov 26 2019, 10:43 AM

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macam ni baru layak memakai rolex submariner sebab betul2 submariner
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post Nov 26 2019, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Nov 26 2019, 10:35 AM)
Not required... but to enter port of calls we need to submit the requirement thru agents. When transitting thru international waters & territorial waters no need
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If in that case, is there a possibility of collision with another sub in the vicinity?
Or can the subs somehow "hear" each other in the water?
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post Nov 26 2019, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Nov 26 2019, 09:36 AM)
Speaking about soundwaves, when you were underwater in the sub, have you heard any whales? Or dolphins? Or some marine life?
Is it possible to hear through the submarine's hull?  hmm.gif
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Yes...always. we could differentiate the sound from which biologics

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