i know u guys are hardcore gamers here when u willing to pay for WOW.. i did love WOW but never take a risk to play it just because of STEAMMMIX my question here.. is it worthy to play WOW at this internet speed?? no lagg meh?

Play the trial to see for yourself.

I can play at 1.5k lag, no problem.

yes if you are not raiding its ok !

bazet, devil is rite. You can't raid with that spec but I recall you didn't raid anyways. he he! but how on earth did u manage to pvp with those values?

WOW is definitely playable at typical Streamyx speed of 500-700ms latency and still playable (i.e. solo farming) even at 1500 ms. Might not be great for hardcore raiding or PVPing but if you dont do either of those, you will be fine. I nhave to say WOW handles bad latency better than the other games I've tried. All the other US-based MMORPGS I have played (City of Heroes/Villians, Star Wars Galaxies, Vanguard, LOTRO) all suffer worse (some a lot worse) than WOW when it comes to lag.

Not saying that WOW is perfect, of course. It has its detractors like everything else. Hell, I'm sure even Jessica Alba has guys who say "I dont see what's the big deal" but whatever....

Like the other guys said, give it a trial and see how you like it.

This post has been edited by limsk: Jul 12 2007, 09:32 AM

Frankly, with 1.5k, its really not worth to pay the monthly fees to play the game. You pay the same $ as with others, but can only enjoy very few portion of the game elements.

May as well try other online game dont need to cross the undersea cable.

There are some online games dont need good latency to enjoy them.

before we start giving doomsday scenario to bluffy83, let's try to lend a helping hand first, shall we? especially when we are all gamers (be it hardcore or casual WoW players), including you Kravo.

bluffy83, where do you live? usually the line connection is dependant on the IP that you can conenct to. and limsk is right, try out the trial. if you have a friend who has the CD, get it from him and install it.

there are some game elements that you might not enjoy but it's not to say that you will never get to try it out. quite of a few of us on WoW LYN raid regularly and even PVP in the arenas and battlegrounds as well.

as for the $ that one pays for online games, its' roughly RM50 per month which is common for a lot of online games out there. one reason we all still play the game even with lag is that the lag doesn't always last for long (if we're lucky) and it's still one of the best interactive games.

Playing WoW is like selling your real life away, think twice bub! *wink*

Ive always had interest in mmo's and have played a few titles b4 WoW- Dragon Raja (M'sia), Knight Online, Helbreathlol?.. Anarchy Online, WoW.. In my opinion, Blizzard really nailed it when it comes to the fun factor for WoW. Coupled with a relatively mature (compared to Msia -.-) international gaming community, logging on to level up/play etc.. was really something i looked forward to.

If you have played other mmo's, esp korean based ones that place emphasis on grinding, WoW will certainly be a breath of fresh air. When i first started, the seamless world (no loading screens across zones) took my breath away.

WoW isnt perfect, but its very good (if you are into these kinda games). And it can run on 3-4 yr old computers! Choose a right server that meets ur needs!

If you are studying, dont join WOW.
It will literally suck your time away.
It is more addicting then any other MMORPG i have played.

These few days i dont even bother login to WoW and play. The lag is unbearable. 1.4kms constant :-( I think you should try to get trial invitation from any of your friend that is playing WoW and try it out first. Maybe your connection is better than mine, i dont know but dont regret after you buy the whole package. WoW itself is a very nice MMO but its our ISP that seriously screwing things up.

I have VPn to my office, so 500ms is normal for me.
1.5k lag is when i use normal 1MB RM88 shitmix...

I usually play at qin dynasty cafe at the mines while waiting for movie at tgv.....2-3 hour playtime in bg.....

so at 1.5k...literally i can do rep farming.......or chatting.......

if you can handle the lag, you should try

or wait for warhammer

learn the art of ip hunting imo. i play with 400-600 everyday no problem. I stay in Subang.

About the time thing, its true. lol. But farming career irl now, so only one av game on weekdays for me. Ive put in my time during student life.

Hmmm... any guide or tricks or just anything that can teach me more about this IP hunting technique? I keep restarting my connection everytime i reach 1.4k but to no avail. If there is something like a script or just anything that can help me with this im willing to try. Im on rm88 package. It used to be 400-500 ( 4-5 days ago) but now somehow i couldnt get that ms range already. Normal surfing and DL still alright, its just that WoW ping is really bad.

About WoW being addictive, yes it is :-)

I love barren chat. For first timers, you should roll a horde and enjoy barren chat

- where is Mankrik's wife ?
- and tonnes of chuck norris jokes

believe it or not, i downgraded my RM88 package to the 512kbps RM66 package. and got less disconnection.

but then again, I replaced the entire telephone cable. reason was the old cable was very old and the telekom contractor didn't use one complete wire but used a connector that was exposed to rain or shine. one fine day, a thunderstorm screwed it up that i kept disconnecting.

so, i paid RM50 for a broadband recommended cable and RM40 for the normal house phone one. each line is dedicated from the phone post outside the house to improve the connection rather than a shared line but there's still problems. i can't use the phone upstairs anymore else my streamyx line gets disconnected. can only use the phone downstairs but like i said, the two cables are wired straight to the telephone post and not splitted.

in kuching, sarawak, i tend to dial up at certain times to get good IPs but then again, I leave the computer running at home all day. Other ppl uses scripts but dunno how to do that.

or just harrass tmnet. make sure that they are able to give you a good line and just complain and complain. they will eventually wear down. they opened up a 2 MB line for one of my colleagues in kuching, believe or not. huge harrassment though.

I cant do any replacement cable thingy, cuz im renting this apartment. LOL. Harassment is very time consuming ( u get to listen to their stupid customer call waiting song ) and waste money.

Now i just hope that things will be alrite after a few more days, else if really cannot tahan then only lodge report. I heard somewhere in this forum there is ppl mentioned about Shitmix international line having problem now. ANybody can confirm this?

you need to do ip hunting , im playing 300-400 ms avg , and i staying in subang. im using 1mb line.

oooo i came up with a good tag line.

"To play WoW is to commit, real life and in-game wise."

my advise to . DONT START WOW. NO MATTER U ARE STUDENT OR WORKING ADULT

WOW...very addictive...but still me as a college student manage to pass up my assignment in time n got passing grade for my exam. so in conclusion, it's just that how u manage ur time. ~cheers~

if u plan to be more then a casual player, a minimum time investment of 10-12 hours a week is needed

if u plan to be more then a casual player, a minimum time investment of 10-12 hours a week is needed

For the ip hunting thingy, you just have to try and then remember which ip range works good for your area. You can tell when the authenticating msg is slow means the connection is bad. It has to be instant!! lol, if not instant, reconnect till get a diff ip range.

This was my schedule when i used to play wow:
9am-6pm college/work
8pm-12pm wow, then sleep lol.
Of course if it's maintainance day it's not like that

DEATHBLURRY!!!!!!! i knew i recognise that avatar somewhere.....darn blury , where have u been ...working hard since back from aussie?

the last time i seen ya was at ss2....lets yumcha man...LOL

10-12 so little? omg that is casual!!.. i'm a working adult, got gf, and i spent about 30hrs a week and i still don't think i'm hardcore enuf....

This post has been edited by exshige: Jul 16 2007, 02:35 PM

you will suffer if u're a casual. Unless u r in a casual guild. LOL

sorry ar..its your own life, but 30hours a week...i feel is damn unhealthy

my guild is consided semi-casual, about 9-11 hours of raids a week, we are still no.14 on server, kara/gruul on farm, working on mags, going SCC this week

the way this thread is going, it's starting to become more pessimistic than necessary.

if you have a wife, don't play wow in prime time.....I learned the hard lesson.

Let her play WoW too. Problem solved.

shhhh hush uuuu
dont really hang out much these days. been buzy ma, selling bits of soul to WoW~

Anyway i've played with people who are married and i can tell you it's either the best group you'll ever been in or one where you have to prepare to run back to your corpse lots of times. But fun nonehtheless.

Reckon it's the people you quest and do stuff with that makes the game fun and addictive. OF cuz purplez could be another attractive factor too...

WoW is fun but these days I only have the time to play it on Sat afternoons and at least 12 hours non-stop on Sunday.

Theres no such thing as casual gamer in WoW. If you plan to be casual you'll eventually get bored of it very fast cause you will be doing the same stuffs that everyone else is doing

If you dedicate a little more time you will be able to see more endgame content which will eventually lead you and your guild to spend more and more time in it. Theres so many instances for you to clear in a week time and if your guild still in learning process then be prepared to spend countless hours without logging off with an extra epic loot cause a lot of time will be spent on learning and trying out new stuffs

Its either you play hardcore or dont play at all otherwise its a waste of money. I'm sure everyone that plays WoW will tend to be hardcore otherwise you'll be walking around only in Karazhan gears while others will be walking around with SSC/Eye onwards gear

I quitted WoW a long time ago after my guild down Gruul and i felt that my life span increased by twice lol cause now i have more free time to do other things

This post has been edited by ChcGamer: Jul 23 2007, 01:29 AM

this is so true...
same as what im thinking...
but still playing WoW... lol

blury blury....ur still playing at nerzhul?

PM me la
dont hijack thread.

I am not sure I understand what you mean by this? Or is it outright kiasum-ism in the making? RM45 a month and its wasting money if its not hardcore? Having said that I look forward for every Sun WoW MArathon!

hardcore can be raiding every single night. even for a working person it's doable. just farm mats over the weekend. or even raid 5x a week is good enough.

raiding is not for casual at all. u don't succeed without the practice and the mobs.

leveling is for casual. non-heroic instances are semi-casual. heroics are still relatively hardcore since bosses like very hard and act like raid bosses.

and it's not kiasu-ism since any game, be it a video game, MMO or sports, is still very competitive. even if you're competiting against PvE, it's still competitive.

lol...i am a thread hijacker...lazy to pm la....anyway, just dropping by to say hi...LOL

IMO, its only the unemployed pricks formed guilds that get the world's first kills or the fastest advancement. As long as there's progression, everyone should be happy about it.

agree on the last bit but name-calling in front is a bit uncalled for. it is still their RM51 per month, regardless of what we think of how they spend their money.

and err...what's that got to do with your understanding on ChGamer's viewpoint on a waste of money? it does sound that you're more ticked off by guilds that are progressing very fast rather than ChGamer's viewpoint?

Wed - raid 5-9.
Thurs - raid 5-9.
Friday - Swimming / tennis.
Saturday - Have drinks with frens.
Sunday - Relax get over hangover LOL n farm / pvp n raid again till 9.
Monday - raid 5-9.
Tuesday - Lim teh.

I think its perfectly doable. Occasionally i do play on fridays too but its just how u balance up ur time. When raid's over i chit chat awhile in wow and just log off and continue to do my stuff i need to in rl .Well i'm fortunate and have very flexible time but overall its still doable to have a life and play wow. Its a very general misconception that ppl who play who are losers with no life. -.-

Ok, that hardcore word get into me and it blurred my sense. What I have wanted to say then was RM 51 a month isn't too bad as its only RM 1.70 a day. In other words, playing hardcore or getting the greatest loots will not help you recover your 'losses' each day since the most important thing is enjoying the game.

aiyo, play game is to enjoy n relax ma. bu xuang dont play lo. so easy. just a game, don't take it too personal in rl.

I play WoW casually. I find it enjoyable.

That's until a shadow priest comes along and melted your face as you were about to finish off his fellow horde.

Which in turn will give much enjoyment to the priest but not to the pally. But then as the pally goes into 5 man heroic run later that day, he finally got his epic item that he wanted for weeks.

To sum it up, Karma baby~!


Just kidding bout the face melting part =P

This post has been edited by blury: Aug 1 2007, 05:05 PM

until you always find urself at the graveyard frequently during PVP due to the lack of resilience/hp/gear.

I have decent hp and resi. Enough not to see the gy thaaat often

Is it worth it to play WoW at RM50 a month?
Only YOU can answer that question yourself. If you find yourself constantly frustrated, damaged your PC and monitor because of WoW, and constantly have nightmares, cannot concentrate during work/study all because of WoW then...maybe it's not that worth it.

If you enjoy the game, like it, don't have to always replace your broken monitor and PC, then IMO it's worth it. RM50 a month is not that expensive. You will most probably spend more than that for just ONE clubbing night.

Just my RM0.02

hi seen. back to work eh?

This post has been edited by myremi: Aug 2 2007, 02:09 PM

hahaha so obvious hor?
<333 myremi!

you can bubble hearth

lol...when she works , she forum trolling like mad....lol

hehehe
or else? IF you noticed, after working hours, this forum all quite dead!
BUT if its not office hours and servers are down, this forum became alive!
So...not just me la! hahaha

server down = wow day off and lyn off

go watch movie or anime or lim teh

throll~ling while working requires skill, mut be fast at clicking the minimize button before you manager sees it.

Or at least prepare a extremely superb justification.

Ps, bubble hearth is no longer do-able if the priest is quick enough. Dispell the bugger with mass dispeal ! and PEW PEW him !

only 1/9 chance as not everyone in the game is a priest.

=edit=
so yeah, "no longer do-able" is really an overstatement

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Aug 3 2007, 11:52 AM

ooOO drama!! drama!!

more pew pew ...less QQ

yeah seen, working is a good place to troll forums...since we have nothing to do here...LOL

damn straight, although i actually have a ton of things to do. but trolling is still required

Well...right now I REALLY have nothing to do. Suppose to have a meeting and then decide on what's the next step I should take but manager had some emergency stuff to handle. So I have to "pretend" to be busy doing more research..LOL

But previously, as Quazacolt said, had lotsa stuff to do, just that trolling takes precedence

after working hours all play WoW lah

unless no choice everyone afk lor

after a long 2 years of quitting, i plan to play my WOW back again..since my new office tiba2 got a bunch of WOW players and have their own guild...but when i wanted to...i think again...how streamyx wan handle edi...

fyi, i live in shah alam and 218.208/111 is my best speed which i used to WOW last time (hardcore pvp rank farming with my other US super pug) so <300ms is all good.

but after the taiwan earthquake, conn went bad,well yeah ofc everyone also kena...but then again ..its been forever since i tried to get 218... not even a chance man...so with 219.95... i cant even logon to the server...so my account went dead forever till today

felt like tmnet blocked my port or what? calling their support is almost as hopeless as asking about networking to a pakcik who sell ice-cream...

so what shud i do? been trying to hunt for 218 ip for a straight 3 months i think, after i realized i was dumb and jz quit.

after 2 years do u still get to use your old character?

slickz : yeah... there's a 10days trial of TBC...(actually i have 2 accounts, the old one, and TBC ones...TBC is dead long ago in the march 2007,registered under my name for my cousin to play[we live together]...so recently i used the free 10days trial on my old account(Kil'Jaeden)...my surf speed is all cool,torrents good,dota good, pvt server good,but official WoW is like always get dc-ed upon logging in...since i been playing around local hosters...i never knew the international problem still occuring...

rili blur..once 10days trial is up...i rili dono edi...

Hi there. Sorry to go off topic, but what are local hosters?

Thanks.

sorry if the term was wrong lol, i mean local-hosters are like malaysia-based, like flying spaghetti monster n all project server hosted by malaysians.

u mean for DoTA or illegal WoW servers?

;p; nvr thought this thread still active thanks guys... anyway i think i quit for WOW.. wait till screamyx improve lol.. ahaha

LOL. Perhaps your grandchildren's generation.

aih i also quit wow, coz seen never come over.

wah lau eh, blame me pulak =.="
You come over la, i pay u and hot mary and ur tank friend 100g each.

can pay rm100 each? dont want gold.
hahahahaahah

No money la bro!
Come la xfer here

hahaha...later xfer liao no raid spot how.....................
dance in town ?

btw, im already holy spec


This post has been edited by Addict: Aug 20 2007, 04:08 PM

lack of healers ah? kesian. u're holy only if u got rid of the FSW set. did u?

ahhaah the set is still in my inv, i change set when i solo dps ......not going for mooncloth tho.......no money liao..

hey u guys use VPN meh for WOW?

nope. not me.

streamyx sucks, no matter how long we live.
/spit Streamyx

T_T

sigh~~~
was planning to play WoW around this time...
then see here so many ppl complain...

its ok for the majority of us.. give it a go. Best MMO out there atm. 9mil speaks 4 itself.

The number of people that complain in these forums are not a true reflection of the number of Malaysian players that actually play.

And there are still many of us who are able to play and raid decently well.

I've never had a problem with WoW except during the time we had a major disruption due to the earthquake. I'm on Streamyx as well. There are spots of lag during the game sometimes, but in 25 mans no real issues. In fact it's the Aussie based players that lag out or disconnect often during 25 mans.

This post has been edited by satchnik: Aug 29 2007, 02:43 PM

icic... wow...
this could be encouraging...


can i steal the thread for awhile... how much is starter pack + crusader...?
any recommend selling it at best price...?
thx...

go check the stickies

I've been playing WoW for almost 2 years now...best game I played so far. But how addictive is up to the bloke who plays the game.

It's like blaming video games for all the violence nowadays. We all know it's bullshit, but there are some mentally retarded people out there that are "encouraged" when they play violent games. Normal people like me play the game, vent some frustration and forget about it.

So, addiction is in the eye of the beholder. Look at me, played for so long, don't have a single character above 55..LOLZ..I played every single race and every single class. Currently playing my warrior, lvl 30+ now. Very casually, like less than 10 hours a week.

If you think it's a waste of money, then you should stay away until you have the time to commit. I manage my time very strictly, instance last boss also don't care. Time's up means time's up. But I still enjoy the game immensely, and make the most of my play times.

Go for the trial. As I said, all that is to be seen, is through the eyes of the beholder...wah..sounds very Tolkien...lolz...must've hit my head somewhere...CIAO!

what he said ^

summary = WoW is nice, let me invite u to trial and u convert to full version and let me get 1 month of free subscription

you obviously need comprehension classes, as he obviously did not state that. on top of that, he also gave advice to stay away if he has no control over his game times.

and for the free month, it would require the person to top up another month on top of the acct upgrade.

goto expansion and updates pinned threat on the top. he failed there and then already.

ouch... to fail so much at life.

here's the /

now all u need it is to attach it to your wrists.

This post has been edited by sets84: Sep 2 2007, 11:50 PM

i'm so blur inside WoW...
so much for me to learn...

yet cannot decide which character suite me better...
warlock...?
paladin...?

you prefer to tank or heal or dps? pve or pvp?

thx for reply, i'm in PvP realm...

using blood elves race... then created a paladin and another warlock...
which will level faster...?

i found tht warlock abit hard to control...
paladin is more simple to me...

another point is the Imp summon by warlock need to control manually or auto attack...?

ur in a PVP realm so i'm gona assume that PVP would be one of your main interests.

good character choices if u ask me, those 2 are amongsts the best in terms of "overpowered-ness"... and coincidentally i've played and both and am still playing the pally

i guess what you need to decide here is like Q said, do you like to be the one dishing otu dmg or do u like healing

given both characters, i'd say that a pally is more of a handful to play... healing is SERIOUS BIZZ!!! and that's the truth. i've played the warlock and i manually control my pet and still i have far less problems compared to playing a healer.

why? cos ur role as a healer is crucial, you have to be really dynamic and know wtf you're doing... other than keeping your team mates alive, above all YOU MUST stay alive yourself.


if u plan to play a warlock play an undead one, though an orc warlock is good for pve it, an undead one wouldn't lack much either. however pvp wise, an undead warlock is truly a force to reckon with. BE warlocks are just... u remember lance bass from N sync? yeah, gay and faggoty... the only worthless warlock is a blood elf one

z0mg.. paladin = easy mode -.-

not to mean paladin like tht, soli to my noob statement...

since i already playing BE, mayb i'll try out longer as a paladin 1st...
i tot of being a melee fighter instead of caster healer...

by the way BE male looks weired to me too...

so i pick a female companion, looks more suite into my eyes...