OK /K looking for suggestions for a cheap 2nd hand car. Budget is around RM15-20,000

Basically we found a place that is willing to take in a Nissan X-Trail with a bad CVT that we want to trade in. However they would only take in the X-Trail if we buy a car from them.

Car is for my MIL who doesn't want any fancy cars as she isn't a car person and won't drive around much beyond the usual kopitiam for breakfast, line dance and wet market / supermarket. She does not believe in taking Grab / Taxis.

However she does want a hatchback, must be Japanese as she used to drive a Nissan 130Y and had several Sentras thereafter even when they had access to several Mercedes and more expensive cars she always preferred her Sentra due to it being easy to drive. The other thing is it must be a torque converter automatic and a 4cyl engine.

The dealer has these 3 cars that met the price :-

1) 2006 Toyota Yaris S, done 140,000km and has a full UMW service history. RM18,000
2) 2006 Suzuki Swift, done 180,000km and no service booklet. RM14,000
3) 2006 Mercedes A160, done 73,000km with a C&C service history. RM21,000

I suggested she take the Mercedes as it is the nicest one to drive. Low km and looks very well maintained, my guess is it was a 2nd or 3rd car in a wealthier household for a long time. Thought this was the best car for the money as it had that all important ESP. Wife said bad idea for her mum to have one as it is likely to be very expensive to repair if anything went wrong.

MIL liked the Swift saying it felt easiest to drive and she liked the door only unlocked the driver door if pressed once. I thought it was a good car, quite precise and handled quite well. Will need new tires and brake work as well as 1 rear wheel bearing was worn.

Wife told her it was a bad idea as now no Suzukis sold and parts are difficult to find and expensive. She suggested to take the Yaris as UMW is still in business and will always be in business selling Toyotas. Also said the Yaris uses many similar parts to the Vios so many parts around. MIL said she doesn't think it is worth RM4,000 more and the instrument in the center seemed distracting.
Dealer said the Yaris was just only brought to the lot, they haven't done anything to it so it does appear the paint needs some attention, has 3 bumper to bumper long scratches, it will need a new battery and the air conditioner doesn't seem to work as it isn't blowing cold air. Can see it needs new rear disc and possibly one of the suspension bushes are gone. Claims it was traded in for a X70.

Drillz for reference purposes:-




Prices are inclusive of paperwork but not insurance.

Which is the better one?

Just buy GOD car vios.

pretty brave going for a 13 years old car.

avoid that mercedes at all cost.

no jazz?
frankly, a new myvi is a better bet than any of these.
old people give them latest one with anti-wrong-pedal protection.

Richfag like you should buy new Mercedes A250 wor.

Dont compromise

go get myvi la..cheaper maintenance and with younger car age.

i vote A160 for the lulz

as suzuki fan I vote suzuki lah

A160 is a joke man...

Yaris can drive more than 30 years

Beli myvi jer... Tak pening paler

Buy new saga,

2006 a class. its that super ugly one

Myvi

why not consider few years old iriz?
i can only accept driving 13 years if the cars were used by me for few years already.

Zc31s > all

Well. Myvi >>> All

1. Swift - plenty on the road, cheaper & more spareparts
2. Yaris - less on the road, should be reliable but spareparts how ah?
3. A160 - rare on the road, sparepart might gonna cost a bomb, maybe.

Ur xtrail is t32?

Yaris practical abit. Spare part more or less sama with vios except some parts. Service booklet is a nice touch

Swift for more fun driving experience, I would choose swift

Lexus ct200h

This post has been edited by rudduan: Nov 12 2019, 06:44 PM

But u do know its 2006. Now is 2019. Prepare for the worst

budget 15 to 20k

I would go for Toyota Yaris

The service booklet of the yaris gives more assurance. I vote yaris. Toyota should be more reliable too. Only if it can really share many parts with vios.

She does not want a sedan.

Yeah that Mercedes won't be cheap to maintain.

No Jazz due to CVT, she doesn't want a CVT again.

A new Myvi is also RM30,000 more bare minimum, she wants to spend as little to get into a Japanese car.

If it was for me I'd buy a Renault Megane RS280 instead of the A250. However my MIL isn't a car person so she doesn't want to spend so much on a car.

We did look at it, she doesn't want to drive a Perodua.

Yaris? That same generation Vios has very light steering..

Depends.. if slow and steady driver, swift

If want zippy response to zig zag in jam then Yaris

It is still a nice car.

Personally like it too.

It definitely does feel like it would last a long time. Certainly feels better built than the Vios of a similar vintage.

No sedans and she isn't keen on a Proton.

I thought it was the 1st gen ones before the facelift that are super ugly?

Waifu sudah balik. Cukurla.

New yaris 66k.

This post has been edited by shirohamada: Nov 13 2019, 01:24 AM

A 2013 myvi can also go for around 20k price range - but I'd recommend a purchase from direct owner and never used car dealers.

I got myself a used Honda Jazz (2003) for daily use. Then converted it to the 1.5 engine and manual gb for something more fun during the weekend.

Need you still ask?

Just get the Yaris
It's a pump petrol and go car. No head ache. No worries.

Merc, conti car ? Unless your MIL wants to have make more friends with tow truck drivers association and workshop mechanics.....go ahead get one.

Seken hand persona. Lotus handling yo.

suzuki no longer selling cars in msia

CVT gearbox and she isn't too keen on a Proton.

That's indeed a nice one but getting difficult to find good ones out there.

Body parts are a bit expensive but everything else for the Yaris are standard Toyota parts bin.

The X-Trail in question is indeed a T32 from 2014.

Swift is definitely a lot more fun to drive other than the tall gearing and its tendency to go from 1st to 2nd too soon.

NO thanks. This car isn't a long term keeper.

Well her idea is if she buys the car for RM15-20,000 she should still have between RM10-15,000 to fix any niggling issues with the car to make it good for 10+ years. She has no plans to drive too far with it.

It is a Toyota parts bin car mostly, here other than the body panels most parts are fairly cheap it seems.

Yes the steering does seem very light on the Yaris.

Alhamdulilah she is back

New Yaris out of budget.

yaris they are more reliable.
but risky 13 year old car.

This post has been edited by COOLPINK: Nov 13 2019, 08:24 AM

try and see if you can find a 3-4 year old KIA picanto, should be within budget, much newer with better build quality and safety

Interesting conversion.

Yeah currently mostly fixed on the Yaris. Waiting for the dealer to come give a price on the X-Trail.

That is actually one of the worry as well, in the event the car has a recall like the Takata airbag issue there won't be a dealer to organize it.

prius c, honda insight.
both around 24k.

The dealer did have one from 2015, asking RM12,000 but it is a manual.

Inb4 top up a bit...

My sis in law owned a suzuki swift CBU. 10 years now and it is still kicking ass.

This year maintenance changed 4 suspension.
Thats about it.

Aircond and others still.working fine.

This post has been edited by Red_rustyjelly: Nov 13 2019, 08:32 AM

IMHO an absolute steal even up to 20k for a 3-4 year old picanto, it has miles better build quality than the common japanese econoboxes, VSC, 6 airbags and relatively cheap to maintain as well

yo wife sounds knowledgeable than you

yaris toyota jew

same here, CKD unit, kicking ass..

cause i use swift then i vote for that. add another 3k-5k go change all the parts. can join fb group got few swift specialist workshop

Jgn nangis nanti ambil Merc.

Japanese reliability.

Most cars work well if properly maintained.

The used car I bought earlier this year had plenty of issues because the owner didn't take care of it well. This include the cvt gearbox.

Even the exterior was not even a 7/10 condition. At best 4/10.

It's never the car that breaks down but the owner that didn't service it timely.

Axia ecash 24k. Cash is king

Swift meets all MIL requirements, MIL likes swift, MIL doesnt mind the swift
nak tanya ape lagi...

2006 A class is totally out of question, get the yaris. swift's odd ball parts can get really pricey.

Walao. Get your maintenance money ready.

Anyway, I think Yaris lah.

all sangat outdate la, rm10k downpayment for brand new Kia K3 la, very nice year end discount

Prius C that cheap now?

It is quite tempting but she does want an auto.

Nah, in her head T>everything else.

Thought they said it is better to cry in a Mercedes?

Daughter holds the purse strings