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Which cheap 2nd hand car.
 
Suzuki Swift. [ 34 ] ** [29.82%]
Toyota Yaris. [ 22 ] ** [19.30%]
Mercedes A160. [ 46 ] ** [40.35%]
Other. [ 12 ] ** [10.53%]
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post Nov 12 2019, 05:41 PM, updated 7y ago

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OK /K looking for suggestions for a cheap 2nd hand car. Budget is around RM15-20,000

Basically we found a place that is willing to take in a Nissan X-Trail with a bad CVT that we want to trade in. However they would only take in the X-Trail if we buy a car from them.

Car is for my MIL who doesn't want any fancy cars as she isn't a car person and won't drive around much beyond the usual kopitiam for breakfast, line dance and wet market / supermarket. She does not believe in taking Grab / Taxis.

However she does want a hatchback, must be Japanese as she used to drive a Nissan 130Y and had several Sentras thereafter even when they had access to several Mercedes and more expensive cars she always preferred her Sentra due to it being easy to drive. The other thing is it must be a torque converter automatic and a 4cyl engine.

The dealer has these 3 cars that met the price :-

1) 2006 Toyota Yaris S, done 140,000km and has a full UMW service history. RM18,000
2) 2006 Suzuki Swift, done 180,000km and no service booklet. RM14,000
3) 2006 Mercedes A160, done 73,000km with a C&C service history. RM21,000

I suggested she take the Mercedes as it is the nicest one to drive. Low km and looks very well maintained, my guess is it was a 2nd or 3rd car in a wealthier household for a long time. Thought this was the best car for the money as it had that all important ESP. Wife said bad idea for her mum to have one as it is likely to be very expensive to repair if anything went wrong.

MIL liked the Swift saying it felt easiest to drive and she liked the door only unlocked the driver door if pressed once. I thought it was a good car, quite precise and handled quite well. Will need new tires and brake work as well as 1 rear wheel bearing was worn.

Wife told her it was a bad idea as now no Suzukis sold and parts are difficult to find and expensive. She suggested to take the Yaris as UMW is still in business and will always be in business selling Toyotas. Also said the Yaris uses many similar parts to the Vios so many parts around. MIL said she doesn't think it is worth RM4,000 more and the instrument in the center seemed distracting.
Dealer said the Yaris was just only brought to the lot, they haven't done anything to it so it does appear the paint needs some attention, has 3 bumper to bumper long scratches, it will need a new battery and the air conditioner doesn't seem to work as it isn't blowing cold air. Can see it needs new rear disc and possibly one of the suspension bushes are gone. Claims it was traded in for a X70.

Drillz for reference purposes:-
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Prices are inclusive of paperwork but not insurance.

Which is the better one?
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post Nov 13 2019, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(Boldnut @ Nov 12 2019, 05:47 PM)
Just buy GOD car vios.
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She does not want a sedan.

QUOTE(longinusshortleg @ Nov 12 2019, 05:47 PM)
pretty brave going for a 13 years old car.

avoid that mercedes at all cost.
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Yeah that Mercedes won't be cheap to maintain.

QUOTE(fireballs @ Nov 12 2019, 05:48 PM)
no jazz?
frankly, a new myvi is a better bet than any of these.
old people give them latest one with anti-wrong-pedal protection.
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No Jazz due to CVT, she doesn't want a CVT again.

A new Myvi is also RM30,000 more bare minimum, she wants to spend as little to get into a Japanese car.

QUOTE(JoeK @ Nov 12 2019, 05:48 PM)
Richfag like you should buy new Mercedes A250 wor.

Dont compromise
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If it was for me I'd buy a Renault Megane RS280 instead of the A250. However my MIL isn't a car person so she doesn't want to spend so much on a car.

QUOTE(namasayadin @ Nov 12 2019, 05:49 PM)
go get myvi la..cheaper maintenance and with younger car age.
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We did look at it, she doesn't want to drive a Perodua.
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post Nov 13 2019, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Nov 12 2019, 05:49 PM)
i vote A160 for the lulz
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It is still a nice car.

QUOTE(sanosizo @ Nov 12 2019, 05:52 PM)
as suzuki fan I vote suzuki lah
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Personally like it too.

QUOTE(Benefon @ Nov 12 2019, 05:55 PM)
Yaris can drive more than 30 years
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It definitely does feel like it would last a long time. Certainly feels better built than the Vios of a similar vintage.

QUOTE(Porie @ Nov 12 2019, 06:03 PM)
Buy new saga,
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No sedans and she isn't keen on a Proton.

QUOTE(ukauka2020 @ Nov 12 2019, 06:04 PM)
2006 a class. its that super ugly one
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I thought it was the 1st gen ones before the facelift that are super ugly?
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post Nov 13 2019, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Nov 12 2019, 06:32 PM)
why not consider few years old iriz?
i can only accept driving 13 years if the cars were used by me for few years already.
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CVT gearbox and she isn't too keen on a Proton.

QUOTE(KoYuKii @ Nov 12 2019, 06:35 PM)
Zc31s > all
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That's indeed a nice one but getting difficult to find good ones out there.

QUOTE(WebDpot @ Nov 12 2019, 06:39 PM)
1. Swift - plenty on the road, cheaper & more spareparts
2. Yaris - less on the road, should be reliable but spareparts how ah?
3. A160 - rare on the road, sparepart might gonna cost a bomb, maybe.
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Body parts are a bit expensive but everything else for the Yaris are standard Toyota parts bin.

QUOTE(ganz @ Nov 12 2019, 06:41 PM)
Ur xtrail is t32?
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The X-Trail in question is indeed a T32 from 2014.

QUOTE(killerpigglet @ Nov 12 2019, 06:43 PM)
Yaris practical abit. Spare part more or less sama with vios except some parts. Service booklet is a nice touch

Swift for more fun driving experience, I would choose swift
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Swift is definitely a lot more fun to drive other than the tall gearing and its tendency to go from 1st to 2nd too soon.


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post Nov 13 2019, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(rudduan @ Nov 12 2019, 06:43 PM)
Lexus ct200h
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NO thanks. This car isn't a long term keeper.

QUOTE(thepark @ Nov 12 2019, 06:59 PM)
But u do know its 2006. Now is 2019. Prepare for the worst
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Well her idea is if she buys the car for RM15-20,000 she should still have between RM10-15,000 to fix any niggling issues with the car to make it good for 10+ years. She has no plans to drive too far with it.

QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Nov 12 2019, 07:09 PM)
The service booklet of the yaris gives more assurance. I vote yaris. Toyota should be more reliable too. Only if it can really share many parts with vios.
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It is a Toyota parts bin car mostly, here other than the body panels most parts are fairly cheap it seems.

QUOTE(alwinnng @ Nov 13 2019, 12:42 AM)
Yaris? That same generation Vios has very light steering..

Depends.. if slow and steady driver, swift

If want zippy response to zig zag in jam then Yaris
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Yes the steering does seem very light on the Yaris.

QUOTE(shirohamada @ Nov 13 2019, 01:23 AM)
Waifu sudah balik. Cukurla.

New yaris 66k.
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Alhamdulilah she is back smile.gif

New Yaris out of budget.
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post Nov 13 2019, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ Nov 13 2019, 01:35 AM)
A 2013 myvi can also go for around 20k price range - but I'd recommend a purchase from direct owner and never used car dealers.

I got myself a used Honda Jazz (2003) for daily use. Then converted it to the 1.5 engine and manual gb for something more fun during the weekend.
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Interesting conversion.

QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Nov 13 2019, 07:33 AM)
Need you still ask?

Just get the Yaris
It's a pump petrol and go car.  No head ache.  No worries.

Merc, conti car ?  Unless your MIL wants to have make more friends with tow truck drivers association and workshop mechanics.....go ahead get one.
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Yeah currently mostly fixed on the Yaris. Waiting for the dealer to come give a price on the X-Trail.

QUOTE(thxxht @ Nov 13 2019, 07:49 AM)
suzuki no longer selling cars in msia
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That is actually one of the worry as well, in the event the car has a recall like the Takata airbag issue there won't be a dealer to organize it.
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post Nov 13 2019, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(Zer0 c00L @ Nov 13 2019, 08:26 AM)
try and see if you can find a 3-4 year old KIA picanto, should be within budget, much newer with better build quality and safety
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The dealer did have one from 2015, asking RM12,000 but it is a manual.
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post Nov 13 2019, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(Zer0 c00L @ Nov 13 2019, 08:31 AM)
IMHO an absolute steal even up to 20k for a 3-4 year old picanto, it has miles better build quality than the common japanese econoboxes, VSC, 6 airbags and relatively cheap to maintain as well
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It is quite tempting but she does want an auto.

QUOTE(Rustaman69 @ Nov 13 2019, 08:39 AM)
yo wife sounds knowledgeable than you
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Nah, in her head T>everything else.

QUOTE(galkelly @ Nov 13 2019, 08:55 AM)
Jgn nangis nanti ambil Merc.
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Thought they said it is better to cry in a Mercedes?

QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Nov 13 2019, 09:19 AM)
Swift meets all MIL requirements, MIL likes swift, MIL doesnt mind the swift
nak tanya ape lagi...
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