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post Jan 11 2020, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(sacremento @ Jan 11 2020, 10:51 AM)
For the battery part, i understand if it's gaming. Apparently on normal web browsing and song playing, could last only last an hour.
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Download HWinfo64 and check the battery wear.

I suspect your battery had degraded seriously.
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post Feb 12 2020, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(alpha001 @ Feb 12 2020, 09:06 PM)
Hi is there any good deals for Lenovo laptop. I am looking for laptop for my younger brother. Preferred 14 inch. Budget is 1.5k.
Currently L340 with amd 3200u is on my list.
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If you can accept the sucky TN panel, L340 probably is your best bet. Another thing is the whole laptop is plastic build, which is not the best experience to me as someone getting accustomed to metal build laptops.

BTW, I gotten mine with 3500u for under RM1.5k, and at times it can even go lower than RM1.4k...

All you need is to configure the stock RAM to 4GB onboard and use the remaining money to buy another stick of 3rd party RAM and you got a perfect budget office laptop that can rival i5 laptop costing at least RM500 more than that.

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post Feb 12 2020, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(jenny1990 @ Feb 12 2020, 10:39 PM)
Just add rm500 for 2 year warranty. And i5 processor. Worth it bro
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3500u trade blows with i5, while having much better iGPU power for a cheaper price and lower power consumption (as compared with typical i5+nvidia).
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post Feb 23 2020, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Feb 23 2020, 09:35 AM)
Any review/comment on ur purchase? Especially on the TN panel and 3500u performance. Is the color on TN panel really that bad on this model? I assume u took FHD one right?

Am looking at this model too, same confiq with yours too. Might change the ram to 4+4, and 1tb hdd + 128ssd. What color is your laptop?
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Yes, the TN panel is pretty terrible in terms of viewing angle, even in perfect perpendicular angle view also you can’t get a good viewing angle, KEK. I’m the type of guy that are used to 110-120 degree screen viewing. And the display is showing different content top and bottom due to the colour shift, LOLOLOL. Luckily the display colours and black/white words display are not as terrible and much more acceptable. Brightness is just sufficient for indoor use, outdoor wouldn’t be possible with low brightness like this. Yes, mine is FHD one.

To get FHD screen option, you need to change the RAM to onboard 4GB. They didn’t allow further RAM configuration if you opt for the 3500u+FHD configuration. I added a 3rd party ADATA RAM myself, and didn’t face any compatibility problem. BTW, the stock RAM chips are by Micron if you’re interested to know.

Try to get their stock 256GB SSD configuration if the price is cheap, as it comes with a decent SAMSUNG OEM SATA SSD if you opted for the 256GB. If you’re on 128GB, you may get some random China OEM SSD.

I added RM10 for the Blue colour, but it’s as dark as black colour in practice. The default grey colour also looks very decent and easily be found in retails.

Oh, regarding the performance, somehow it’s a little shortcoming from what’s I’m expecting, as on benchmark that thing is easily an I5 and even on par with the almost a decade old i7-3770. For some reasons, there is some occasional hiccups when using Microsoft Words... Maybe driver issues or that’s the popular AMD lacks optimisation issues, hmmmm.

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post Feb 23 2020, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Feb 23 2020, 03:21 PM)
Nice explanations, nice man. At first i was planning to configure it as 4gb on board ram, and add 8gb ram separately by myself on the sodimm slot. But worry both ram might not works well, in the end there is no 12gb performance. So in the end i think best is 4+4.

I wan the 256gb too, but too bad the option is not available if u choose 1tb hdd. U only left with 128 option if u choose 1tb hdd. And i really need to 1tb hdd. I even tried to configure 2tb + 128 or 256, fails. Even worse, there is no option of 128 if u choose 2tb.

Haha, i was planning to get the blue color too. Do u have any photos of the blue color? I google it few times, but no results of the abyss blue. I would go either blue (more unique) or grey (more classy, and reminds me of 13s, lol) if i decide to buy 1.

The TN is really a possible deal breaker for me. If ips screen is available, i would have get it by now as i think overall the price is ok.
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No worry, 4+8GB of RAM works just fine. Also since this laptop is using APU, it’s better to have more RAM as part of it is used for VRAM. In fact in 2019, many laptops resolved to the 4GB soldered + 1dimm slot option, that’s why you saw many 12GB or 20GB laptops around.

To me Samsung’s SATA (or even their whole SSD series) SSD is good and it’s what’s best I can get for the cheapo budget laptop. The laptop itself actually has 3 possible bays for HDD/SSD mounting. 1st is the standard 2.5” SATA bay, then next is the ODD bay for 2.5” HDD/SSD too. Lastly there’s also a M2 PCIE slot for NVME SSD.

The colours I try to capture and compared to seamaster blue. Last time during my purchase, they have the White colour option too, but it takes a longer time and also extra RM20 IINM. As I afraid it will get dirty easily, so I skipped it.

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Yeah, the screen really sucks and it’s best to see if you really can accept it before you pull the trigger. I’m waiting the warranty to over and source for 3rd party compatible panels in future, haha...

Cons aside, 3 features I’m convinced with the laptop purchases are the 180 degree lid angle (almost all modern Lenovo laptop can do so), under 45W power consumption (it can allow powerbank charging if you can get the proper cables and converter, sadly it has no native USB PD support though) and misc stuffs like webcam shutter+optical disc bay that most laptops in 2020 simply won’t bother to put in, KEK.

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post Feb 23 2020, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Feb 23 2020, 03:55 PM)
Thanks for the photo. The blue does indeed looks abit like black.

Yes, now still considering to take it or not. They do have the ips offering in l340, but is gaming series: l340 gaming. The cheapest in that series is more expensive by 1k, lol. But its intel 9th gen with 256 + 1 tb option, and gtx 1050 card
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L340 (gaming) is abomination for gaming laptop...

The first thing that I cross it out is the 4GB soldered RAM. It’s acceptable for office laptops like L340 AMD, but not acceptable for a gaming laptop.

Also, gaming laptops are another highly competitive segments. There’s many decent offers from HP or the area51 gaming laptop brands

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post Feb 23 2020, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Feb 23 2020, 06:24 PM)
But the price is quite cheap compare to HP for equivalent specs or Area51. Btw, the 8gb is onboard? I thought its SODIMM.

If that laptop we purchase for normal usage with occasional light/medium gaming, quite worth it. But still, I feel the l340 with amd is more worth it, haha.
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4GB soldered + 1 sodimm slot.

There’s also variant without even the 4GB onboard, those solely run on single channel RAM.
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post Feb 23 2020, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Feb 23 2020, 06:29 PM)
Oh ya, wan to ask 1 question. Lets say i have below ram configuration, which will perform better?
1) 4gb + 4gb (dual channel, onboard + sodimm) vs 1x 8gb
2) 4gb + 8gb vs 1x 12gb (if there is such thing as 12gb ram)
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Dual channel should always win.

Those 4+8GB or 4+16GB one will run hybrid mode, where 4+4GB run dual channel while the remaining on single channel.

In short, full dual channel > hybrid asymmetric dual channel mode > single channel.

And dual channel RAM is particularly crucial to APU’s performance.

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post Feb 24 2020, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(talzer @ Feb 24 2020, 12:04 AM)
i configure on their website. is this a good deal ? i7-8th gen with 16gb ram, suit my requirement.

RM3,913.44
ThinkBook13s-IWL
Part Number: 20R9CTO1WW

System Speces: ( Edit )
Processor : Intel Core i7-8565U Processor (1.80GHz, up to 4.60GHz with Turbo Boost, 4 Cores, 8MB Cache)
Operating System : Windows 10 Home Single Language 64
Operating System Language : Windows 10 Home Single Language 64 English/Simplified Chinese
Microsoft Productivity Software : Microsoft Office Trial
Memory : 16GB DDR4 2400MHz SoDIMM
Hard Drive : 512GB Solid State Drive, M.2 2280, PCIe-NVMe, TLC
Display : 13.3" FHD (1920 x 1080), LED Backlight, IPS, 300nits, Anti-Glare, Narrow Bazel
Graphic Card : AMD Radeon 540X 2GB GDDR5 32bits
TPM Setting : Discrete TPM ROW
Color : Mineral Grey
Keyboard : Backlit Keyboard Grey English
Camera : 720p HD Camera, No Mic
Microphone : Array Microphone
Surface Treatment : Anodizing Sandblasting
Fingerprint Reader : Fingerprint Reader
Palmrest : Metal
Battery : 4 Cell Li-Polymer Internal Battery, 45Wh
Power Cord : 65W AC Adapter (3pin)-UK
Wireless : Wireless 2x2 AC, Bluetooth Version 4.1 or above
Language Pack : Publication-English/Simplified Chinese
Warranty : 1 Year Carry-in
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In short, not worth it... In long, that exact model is the reason this thread existing till today, RM1010 10.10 sales, LOLOL...

Basically if you’re not aware, Lenovo like to jack up price on their website then claiming giving big discount.

You need to be clear about what you looking for and how much it is worth to find rare gems like Thinkpad T495, X395 and so that’s on real discount and worth the money/hassle to order from them online.
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post Feb 24 2020, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(talzer @ Feb 24 2020, 12:16 AM)
thanks for input.

those thinkpads are AMD? for me i mainly needed a good laptop to run high resource apps for programming. prefer high ram, and heard i7 8th-gen have good review.
else if you any recommendation, please feel free to share, budget just below 4k
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For Lenovo, models ending with 5 are generally AMD.

Lenovo Thinkpad T-series has always been their bread and butter business/corporate laptops. You can’t go wrong with them (but do configure the RAM/screen properly as some options are an insult to the buyers, with terrible performance or value).

Just pick the one within your budget will do. The mainstream one are on gen-10 i-core now, while AMD’s line is still based on their 3-series mobile APU, not exactly worth to buy now as a much superior successor is scheduled to be released anytime from now.

Another thing to note here, as laptops are getting real slim nowadays, most of the time they’re configured for low work loads instead. The performance will throttle down to the system’s cooling ability, which most of the time isn’t much good, unless you’re talking about gaming laptops. So if your works really require heavy loads like desktop, better consider gaming laptops instead.

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post Feb 28 2020, 03:49 AM

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QUOTE(jinggothegreat @ Feb 27 2020, 10:02 AM)
this yoga is considered epitome of portability;

4 cell battery + LPPDDR4

coupling with external graphics will hurt the power consumption,

furthermore Iris plus G7 easily beat those Vega 8/10 (in Ryzens):

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Vega-10-vs-Ir...0.247598.0.html
https://technical.city/en/video/Radeon-RX-V...-Ice-Lake-64-EU

rm3.3k price tag is a definite steal
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It’s a steal for those looking for portable office machine with state of the art technology. But again 4th gen mobile CPU for AMD is rumoured to be release soon, which expected win in terms of price, performance and even power consumption if it’s on 7nm.

Also, I won’t touch any laptop with 8GB unupgradedable memory with a 10 ft pole, and worse still that thing run on iGPU, which will further eat in the very limited 8GB RAM. I do hope at the very least they run the 8GB memory in dual channel mode, else it’s even bigger deal breaker.
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post Feb 29 2020, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ Feb 28 2020, 04:55 AM)
New Ryzen 5 4500u geekbench scores are out, looks good especially multi core score really big improvement over last years 3500u:

Single Core: 1083
Multi Core: 4744

Source: https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen-5-4...5.454711.0.html

Just to compare last years T495 Ryzen 5 Pro 3500u:

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Single core performance and power efficiency improvement are all that matter to me for this new chip. Also I hope they have support for higher speed DDR4 RAM (may be 2800mhz or even better 3Ghz straightaway as we have no idea when will it’s successor be ready, it needed to be future proof enough to take on gen11 intel chips), as it’s directly governing the performance of the iGPU.

The multi-core improvements probably come from hexa-core configuration, nothing ground breaking in my sense since this chip is supposedly to power office laptop or ultrabook, you don’t really need >quad cores for these, LOL...
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post Mar 3 2020, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(Benefon @ Mar 1 2020, 05:16 PM)
Lenovo only work with original ram.
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Ramaxel say hi.
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post Mar 7 2020, 05:55 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Mar 6 2020, 11:07 PM)
Found it thanks. But the cable from the hub to my laptop seems a little short

Can i use usbC female to male cable to extend the connection?

https://s.lazada.com.my/s.0XYi8
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Is it too short? Looks quite standard to me (in fact I would rather it be shorter than what’s shown in pictures).

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post Oct 10 2020, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Oct 10 2020, 10:06 AM)
You need a time machine.
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I want a time machine then.
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post Apr 8 2021, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(chicaman @ Apr 8 2021, 07:18 PM)
no more such deal
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FRONTLINER was their last best deal.

Next best deal dono need to wait till when liao.

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