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jaycee1
post Aug 5 2021, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(007SMH @ Jan 9 2021, 09:59 AM)
Hi all , anyone using MT Helmet ATOM SV ?
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I think this reply is 8 MTHS old, but just posting for the record.

I have one. It was the best helmet the shop had when I bought my bike.

Build quality not the best, my visor gasket is already coming off after a few months of use. Anyone know who is the distributor and where I can claim warranty?

Wind noise is bad. You have to wear earplugs with this past 100. As for aero, you get some buffeting at 130-140. Beyond that I get lift.

Weight, I am not too concerned. 1750g for my M. It's typical of a poly shell modular with visor so it's not overweight for the class. Other than the weight, I find it fit fairly well and comfortable. Airflow on the top is quite decent. Chin vent could be better designed to let in more air to defog.

Other cons, I use M and get stuck on the same L, XL and 2XL shell so I look like a bobblehead. View angles narrow at top. It's a touring helmet so not meant to be used in a tuck, although sometimes you want to hide under the windshield for some relief on the highway.
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post Aug 5 2021, 11:31 PM

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I'm looking for a midrange helmet to supplement my MT Atom SV as posted in my post above.

Budget about 1k.

Full face since I already have a modular for city use. Primarily for highway use, so lighter weight, noise and aero is appreciated. dual Visor would be nice.

Currently looking at Scorpions exo 2000 and Zeus' new 1800B carbon helmet.

Anyone with experience with them?

The Zeus seems pretty well spec'ed. Carbon shell, 2 density EPS..1389g in M size. Selling for 950.
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post Aug 6 2021, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Aug 6 2021, 10:36 AM)
Gotta try them for fit. Wind buffet can be caused by chin guard, and space between the cheekpads or back of neck.
Long distance ride is best to wear earplugs, aka >30 minutes.

For protection, look for ECE standard.
Check for parts availability and after sales service.

Also can consider Rafale?
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Indeed. Have to wait until MCO restrictions open before can go to the shops. Helmets are one thing you can't buy online. Have to get proper fitment. Currently shops all closed. Went looking for Motoworld but they are closed.

Definately have to get the ECE standard helmet. Too bad 22.06 helmets will still another 2 years to show up.
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post Feb 9 2022, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Feb 3 2022, 08:12 PM)
DOT jangan beli.. how on earth this kind of helmet got DOT cert.

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best one is FIM grade

Arai RX-7V Racing.
AGV Pista GP RR.
Shark Race-R Pro GP FIM Racing.
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Or you can go cheap and get the Scorpion exo R1. Sort of FIM standard also. But much cheaper
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post Mar 2 2022, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Feb 28 2022, 08:10 AM)
Nice. I'm hoping to find SIRIM tested visor for local helmets. Such as those smoke or iridium ones.
Mainly for impact protection, and optical quality.

At one time, I bought a smoked visor, it made my sense of distance off, things macam flat, colorless, and the surroundings appear less 3D. That helmet, very old liao, so used a bit later threw away.
Switched to a different helmet and pasang the ori smoked visor, eventho mahal, but the quality really different. The visor even do water beading and is not iridium type.

nowadays, I buy helmet will ask what visor they sell, got ori smoke? ori iridium? then will consider that helmet
I heard branded visor even up to 3~4 hundred a piece, those visor must got see through ability
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QUOTE(alexei @ Feb 28 2022, 12:57 PM)
Please provide options for economy helmets with Sirim MS1:2011.
Price range, let's say under RM150?

Apparently MS88 is certified to it.

Would prefer something with visor.
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If the budget is only 150, tough to get a good helmet.

My HJC visor alone costs more.

I think the bare minimum would be the givi 30.2 (open face) or the 50.2 (full face)


As a tip, dont buy cheap iridium or those "Revo" coated visors, they scratch very very easily. Cheap visors are also not tested to be impact and shatter resistant. Kind of missing the point for a visor.

Most of the time I just use the ori clear visor as my helmet has a drop down sunshade. Get one with pinlock if going for a full face.

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post Mar 8 2022, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Mar 7 2022, 09:59 AM)
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kyt aje ..
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But that's not your 300rm KYT. Hahahaha.
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post Apr 25 2022, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(persona93 @ Apr 20 2022, 04:34 PM)
Hi I like the looks on the MT Streetfighter helmets

Those motocross type

Are they any good?
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LOL. Try and see lor. Lets just say quite a number of people here hasn't had good experiences with MT helmets (myself included - I had a Atom SV). But then again thats a 500rm helmet, so dont expect too much. But the streetfighter is unnecessarily complicated. Its going to be loud, and I dont trust the removable chin bar. Looks damn good though.

What do you mean a motocross type? those ones with no visor?


You can try ADV style helmets if that is your thing. What and how do you ride?

ADV helmets tend to be less aerodynamic, heavier and louder compared to equivalently priced sport or sport touring helmets.

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post May 26 2022, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(persona93 @ May 23 2022, 10:49 AM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Tried the ADX1, fuuuuuuuuu damn big, i dahla small ketot guy

looks very weird on my head  biggrin.gif

any comments on SOL helmet, RM456 for the SS1 Edge thumbup.gif
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thats weird. What size do you wear? I wear an M and the ADX doesn't look that odd. It certainly looks smaller than the MT Atom that I have (M is the larger of the 2 shell sizes, shared with 2XL..lol)


Take note on the shell sizes. typically a good helmet will have at least 3 shell sizes. XS + S, M+L and XL and up. Cheaper helmets tend to make do with 2 shell sizes, typically XS + S and M and larger. If you have an M head, you get stuck with a huge shell for 2XL making you look like a bobblehead.

Currently, I am happy with my RPHA70, but waiting for Hodaka to bring in the 22.06 rated ADX2. Miss the convenience of a modular for city/low speed trail riding.
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post May 27 2022, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ May 27 2022, 08:14 AM)
hello and welcome

for most ppl, the first helmet is a mistake
list down a few brand and models that are within your budget, and some at the borderline breaking budget, and then go test helmet
helmet fitting is very important

good luck
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For most people the first bike is also a mistake . hahahaha. What more a helmet.

As for fitment, most people buy one that is too big. Because any new properly fitting helmet would be uncomfortably tight when new. Testing helmets for fitment is crucial, even helmets from the same manufacturer may not fit the same. I tested the HJC F70 and the RHPA 70 both in size M, the F70 just didnt fit me.
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post Jun 2 2022, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(chl1208 @ Jun 1 2022, 07:45 PM)
What I like is the weight of the LS2 Pioneer Evo, which is about 1.4kg only. As compare to my current helmet (Lazer MH5 modular helmet) which is about 1.7KG, I am thinking whether the extra noise is worth off the 0.3KG lighter for a long distance ride.
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You can get a proper sport touring helmet like the Scorpion exo1400air or the HJC rpha 70. Both are available in carbon Kevlar or full carbon. Both with drop down sun visor and pinlock included.

Both about 1.4kg and they are fairly quiet. The full carbon variants are about 100g less.
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post Jun 9 2022, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(mdziaf @ Jun 7 2022, 05:22 PM)
Just bought an LS2 Valiant II helmet.. sigh its too noisy even with earplugs.. anyone else have this helmet and have similar experience?

At 80 the wind noise is like me riding 120 with a cheapo MHR modular helmet..
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The valiant is known to be a loud helmet.

Most modulars are, given the clearances needed to allow for the chin bar to open easily. The more seams and openings, the more wind will seep in. The visor sealing on most modulars are also not as tight as normal full faces. The Valiant is also very aerodynamically inefficient and very wide, which means it catches air in all the wrong places.


A quiet modular is difficult to engineer, which is why Shubert's are so expensive, and also very stuffy.

If you want a quiet helmet, the Rpha 70 and Scorpoin 1400ST is both light and quiet and decently priced. I have the Rpha 70. The Rpha 90 is also fairly quiet for a modular. But then you are looking at a 2k lid.


As Skyblu has alluded to, poor fitment also contributes to wind noise. If you inadvertently bought a round headshape helmet for your oval head (as most of us have), then a lot of noise will seep in via the loose fitting cheek pads and neck roll, even before considering you got the right size, Most new helmet buyers dont realize that a new helmet fits uncomfortably tight until it breaks in and end up buying one size too big.

just for comparison, my Rhpa 70 is quieter than my MT Atom modular with earplugs.

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QUOTE(persona93 @ Jul 25 2022, 10:55 PM)
ma bad, Moto Gear at Batu Caves
yeah got
yeah my friend said easier to spot  laugh.gif
yeah the longer i stare at my helmet, the more giggles i have
next up wanna change visor color, any idea what color might suit  laugh.gif
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Black tinted. Or a very light smoked if you don't intend to change visor all the time when it gets dark. Whatever visor you get, do yourself a favour and get a pinlock insert for it.

I have a red/gold colour shifting visor on my HJC RPHA 70. Slight blue tint on the inside as it filters out the reds. Feels cooler. I normally carry a clear visor if out for longer rides.


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post Jul 28 2022, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jul 27 2022, 04:59 PM)
Where you get this visor?
I want to get this for my rpha70 too.
Is it dark at night?
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I got it from shopee. Direct from china. They call this the Revo red coating. Obviously it's not original HJC. There is a lot of HJ26 visors in the market since it's shared with the RPHA 11 and 70.

Paid 65bux. The tear off nubs are huge and annoying but I replaced it with some smaller pinlock posts that I had lying around. It don't seal as good as the original visor so it lets in a smidge of wind noise but acceptable. The additional visor lock doesn't work (but still latches on fine so no issues)

Yes it is too dark at night. To note the finishing scratches easily and smudges very easily and a PITA to clean.

I also have the similarly coated Revo red clear visor but it's not usable at night, too much internal reflection.

I bought a whole set. The Revo red, chrome, light smoke, clear and Revo clear.

https://shopee.com.my/product/296204070/152...61-1658977612.9HJ26 visor shopee

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There is a bunch of local sellers selling the same visor, albeit a bit more expensive than china direct.

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post Jul 28 2022, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jul 28 2022, 11:27 AM)
How's the visibility through the Chinese made visors?  Read that some non ori visors will have distortion.
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No distortion. The HJ 26 visor is pretty flat design so it's easy for even knock off visors to be distortion free. If I were to nit pick maybe clarity is not as good, but thats likely the coated finish compared to the clear factory visor

There is no discernable differences between the clear knock-off compared to the factory one....other than fitment tolerances and the annoying tear off nubs.

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jul 28 2022, 02:35 PM)
Hopefully the thickness and robustness is good

I've experienced this scary moment when a flying stone ( I think) smash into my visor when I was on the highway, doing highway speed.
It was so loud.  Good thing was that the original visor was able to hold up to the impact.  Scratched and slightly cracked.
Hjc , good stuff.
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Indeed, always go for ori visors. At least those are properly tested. Interstate travel I still use my clear ori visor intead of these fancy ones just to be safe from high speed projectiles
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Jul 29 2022, 10:26 AM)
by the way, I had gone tested the HJC CS-15, but shop does not have XXL size and XL is too hard on my cheek.

Going to look for another shop that has XXL for testing.
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Helmet sizing is for the crown of your head.

If your cheeks are too squished, i am wondering if thats what it is supposed to be. A new helmet is supposed to be uncomfortably tight at the cheek area until it beds in, after a few weeks of use. Most people get a too big helmet because they think the cheek pads are too tight then realizes it that it is loose fitting a few weeks later. Unless you have a particularly round lower face, most helmets would fit well if the crown of your head fits well.

A more premium helmet will allow you to swap cheek pads for thinner pads or customize cheek pads themselves for a better fit. For example, if your helmet come in 3 shell sizes, (XS/S, M/L and XL-2XL) and say you buy a M shell size, you can swap out the M cheekpads for L cheekpads as the helmet shell size is the same, manufacturer use different thickness of the pads to make a M helmet, a L size by using thinner pads.


If you fit an XL helmet, then see if you can buy XXL cheek pads separately. The XL and XXL shell size should be identical

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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Jul 29 2022, 10:24 AM)
Guys, need your opinion.

I am noobs in riding bike, not into fast ride, only small scooter.

Wanted to try out full face helmet.

What would be your recommendation for a newbie to budget buy just to try out full face for long ride? Anything I should look out for?

I know wind noise is one thing that can annoy me big time 'cos it muffle up the bluetooth speakers.
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Weight, budget and features.


A full face will undoubtedly be heavier than your current open face. The more premium helmets will be a composite or carbon shell, which can be as light as an open face, but we are talking something north of 2,000. Zeus has budget full carbon full faces that are quite light at the 1000rm range.

Look for the safety certs, at bare minimum, look for something with ECE 22-05. ECE 22-06 is out already but still not many available in the market.

If you are using bluetooth coms, look for a helmet with speaker pockets.


Assuming if you have the budget, try getting a full face that is compatible with pinlock, as full faces tend to fog up easier in cooler weather or when raining. There are aftermarket stick on "pinlocks" if your helmet is not compatible with one.

If you are planning to buy one online, please go to a shop and test the helmet fitting first then order the same one online. remember the helmet is supposed to be tight at the cheeks until is beds in after a few weeks to use.

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post Jul 30 2022, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Jul 29 2022, 07:56 PM)
I fully understood the sizing part.

Crown size fit tightly, but the cheek pads are overly tight to a point my wisdom tooth on both sides felt like gonna be squeezed out of the gum after putting on for 10mins in the showroom.

Was thinking about changing to XXL cheek pad, but I needed to test the XXL helmet first and see if it's loose around the crown or fitting.

Will be visiting another shop tomorrow to check out their XXL CS-15.

No intention to splurge yet 'cos I am waiting for GT Air 2 stock to come in for the color I want. I am just not too sure if I really want a full face in the long run, hence testing out with budget one to start with. CS-15 looks right from budget and build perspective to be experimenting.
Appreciate your kind input.
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If the crown fits well, then you can get a size up for the cheek pad. At worst, you still have the ori cheek pads.

HJC publishes in detail all Thier sizing and padding sizes so you can confirm if it's just the cheek pads are different moving from size to size.

Some other helmets may actually have different EPS layer and others simply just don't test the larger helmets for 2XL and above. Generally most people will fit M or L.

Also if you have a round head, you might need to look for a helmet that is round and not an intermediate oval (narrower on the sides) like most HJC helmets.
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post Jul 30 2022, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(007SMH @ Jul 30 2022, 07:43 AM)
I recently bought a Revo Red visor from Shopee for my HJC C70 , The fittings not as perfect as the original and there's wind noises coming from the gaps when fully closed , and some lens distortion (slight lens flaring). Overall still okie , might need to add some thin noise insulation tapes to overcome the issues.

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This looks like the clear Revo red. I have as well, too much internal reflection to the point of unusabke at night.

The dark tinted Revo red is ok though.
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Jul 30 2022, 02:07 PM)
Thanks dude for the great input.

As a bike noob myself despite my unker age group, I had spend a lot of time trying out helmets, wasted some money on some but I called it education fees.

Biggest issue is my glasses, other than my big head.

Most helmet that fits me properly, I am unable to insert my glasses.

So ended up paying for one open face Shoei that fits really well and able to let me insert my glasses.

Since then I had “upgraded” my glasses, this time around it seems like I hit the jackpot with the frame, I am able to insert into many helmets.

Going to check out XXL HKC later
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Look for helmets with dedicated eyeglass channels...although you might have to shop at the premium end of the scale. Good luck.

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