Guys, need your opinion.

I am noobs in riding bike, not into fast ride, only small scooter.

Wanted to try out full face helmet.

What would be your recommendation for a newbie to budget buy just to try out full face for long ride? Anything I should look out for?

I know wind noise is one thing that can annoy me big time 'cos it muffle up the bluetooth speakers.

by the way, I had gone tested the HJC CS-15, but shop does not have XXL size and XL is too hard on my cheek.

Going to look for another shop that has XXL for testing.

I fully understood the sizing part.

Crown size fit tightly, but the cheek pads are overly tight to a point my wisdom tooth on both sides felt like gonna be squeezed out of the gum after putting on for 10mins in the showroom.

Was thinking about changing to XXL cheek pad, but I needed to test the XXL helmet first and see if it's loose around the crown or fitting.

Will be visiting another shop tomorrow to check out their XXL CS-15.

No intention to splurge yet 'cos I am waiting for GT Air 2 stock to come in for the color I want. I am just not too sure if I really want a full face in the long run, hence testing out with budget one to start with. CS-15 looks right from budget and build perspective to be experimenting.


Appreciate your kind input.

I did the headshake test on the XL and that's where I confirm it fits the crown but oh my teeth ...

I haven't seen the real think yet, the C70 helmet (not my grandpa's C70).

Reading from specs sheet there is no mention of speaker pocket to install bluetooth,
but I see you have bluetooth installed.

How tight fit is it to slot the speaker in?
Mine is 40mm speaker.

Thanks dude for the great input.

As a bike noob myself despite my unker age group, I had spend a lot of time trying out helmets, wasted some money on some but I called it education fees.

Biggest issue is my glasses, other than my big head.

Most helmet that fits me properly, I am unable to insert my glasses.

So ended up paying for one open face Shoei that fits really well and able to let me insert my glasses.

Since then I had “upgraded” my glasses, this time around it seems like I hit the jackpot with the frame, I am able to insert into many helmets.

Going to check out XXL HKC later

Gone checking.

That shop really a lot of hoccus poccus lazy salesman when asked if they have XL or XXL for CS-15, they say don't have but keep pushing me to try more expensive variant.

Since I am already there, so tested a few different model and turn back asking for CS-15.

Another guy more helpful, found an XL one but not XXL for me to test.

Second time testing XL CS-15, this time, my specs refused to go in.

Walk out empty handed.

Looks like I might just go for GT Air 2 size L which I have tested and fits properly, can slide in my specs with ease too.

Yes. Definitely is head shape + glasses issue combined.

My first helmet is a Magnum. Bought for learning bike.
It's loose and able to accommodate my head, specs and sun glasses.

Then a half helmet, quite squishy on crown but I have no issue with my glasses.
Just can't install intercom on this one.

3rd one, KHI open face, XXL. Loose, but able to let me wear with my glasses on, not inserting glasses after wearing.
This one is noisy as )(#*), at 60km I can't hear my intercom anymore.

Gone serious hunting for helmet since then, tried many brands / model over many shops.
Price range from RM250 to RM6000.
With design mentioning "glasses friendly".
All failed to take in my glasses while having a good fit, except Shoei.

Need to special mention GoMoto, Gene Advance and Takong Racing.
GoMoto (Shoei) measured my head and provided the first guidance for me on how to fit a helmet.
Gene Advance's boss taught me glasses should not rest on ear, and first timer's mistake about feeling uncomfortable to squeeze into the right fitting helmet, how helmet should stick with your head when you are shaking your head.
Takong's girl taught me how to check the gap of fitting around forehead and un-bias opinion on which helmet fits me, pro / cons of each helmet I inquired about.

The famous shop at Serdang, boss patiently took the trouble to bring out I think nearly different ones for me to try and all failed at me unable to insert my glasses.

Other shops were just pushing me helmets without guidance, only guide me to spend more even if it does not fit.

So ended up getting a Shoei open face as my first proper helmet.
All because of my glasses.

Not convinced about that, I took advise from some senior bikers and gone make 2 different glasses with straight frame.
One actually easier to insert into helmet, it's the one I am wearing now to go testing helmet.
Easier but still kinda hit and miss with non-Shoei helmet with my glasses.

Fast forward till today, after some serious riding trip, I have decided to give full face a try.
Hence the hunt for helmet starts all over again, trying not to just buy another Shoei, and to make sure I can stand wearing a full face for a long trip.
Since have a new glasses that's more suitable with helmet, really want to try if I can go with cheaper helmet.

It's very tight when I first managed to sumbat my specs into XL CS-15.
Scared it will break my frame after few rides.
that's the first try at batu cave dealer.

Second try at old klang road dealer, can't even sumbat in despite all the help from nice HJC distributor rep there.



I am looking at GT Air 2 - plain white. This is RM2,350.
Any other design that's not plain is RM2,700



Not C70 but it's predecessor IS-17.
Yes, it does slip in easier.
Aktwali, I went out to get the C70 XL if it fits, but they say no more XL despite their website has quite a number of them. Also intrigued by it's trade in promotion.
Even brought my bluetooth kit planning to test install if C70 XL is available.

Yeah, I realized that.
Shoei sized me borderline L and XL. Tried both, found L to be more fitting.
HJC sized me L, but no can go at all. XL seems just nice.
Others like KYT I had to go XXL.

BTW, took the plunge and ordered a C70 XL.
Guy from HJC been very helpful at side, so decided to take the plune.



Have to agree with you when come to specs fitting into a head fitting helmet for me... sigh... expensive problem




Tried AGV, no go with my specs.
Moreover, at the price point, I am more inclined to spend on Shoei that I am already familiar with.
Just my preference lah.

Had seen this kind of design before at a shop, not HJC but can't remember the name. Might be Nolan or something.

Looks really cool, but just feels like a little too much "components" to be bringing out on a bike ride that's supposed to be light on luggage and bits/pieces.

Yeah, same here not my cuppa.

This shop I went to look for full face and in turn they try to upsell me that Nolan that weighs a brick and quite m9lf (mahkaolanfan) to handle.

That fella also gave me the wrong advise on what type of frames I should go for if I wanted good fit in helmet.. followed his advise spent Rm600 for a wrong result

Another education fees paid.

Received my HJC C70.
Tried installing speakers, no can go.
Hitting my ear and cheek regardless on the position.
So need to mod it a little.

Yeah, no speaker port.

Bought with full knowledge about it.

Expecting to mod a little if needed. Now confirm need to mod

Not a difficult mod if you are a DIY person.

Mine is 40mm speaker. Thickness about the same as Cardo.

I think your head shape may not be as wide as mine.

No matter where I position the speaker it will hit my head / ear

Now have to make a speaker pocket inside. Still waiting for my cookie cutter to arrive for this job 😬

Ok, mod done. Will share pic if you want to see how it's done.

Have to totally bury the speaker in and flush with the original foam level, even 1mm above the original level, it hits my head.

Means XL size is really wrapping my head in the right way but without pressure points.

Audition? Means you want to know the SQ?

Take my word, if you are into SQ, use ear bud.

I think I know who you are

CS-15 has speaker hole.

I itchy backside die die want double visor so gone with C70.

Yeah, CS-15 is best available option in it's price point.