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jaycee1
post Sep 7 2023, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 7 2023, 11:01 AM)
get well known branded helmets.
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I also know someone who said they got a new arai full face for 500. tongue.gif

Just get a HJC or a scorpion...they are quite decent for the price.

As for these street fighter helmets...never quite liked them...although they do look very nice though. All of them are extremely loud, the visors are hard to replace, and optical quality no where near the flat plane visors of full face...plus I prefer a clear visor with a retractable sunvisor for a full day helmet. Plus I feel more secure with a hard chin bar of a full face for safety.
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post Sep 7 2023, 03:41 PM

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If buying a new helmet and in doubt, just go for ECE22-06 lor.

They are filtering down to lower end helmets. Some of the entry level HJCs are already 22-06 rated..but I forgot which model. LS2 as well.


That said I would stay away from ABS shell helmets unless you are really budget constraint. It's the least resistant of all the shell types to cracking (due to it being more brittle) in impacts leading to poor force distribution across the EPS impact foam. By minimum a polycarbonate shell. Fiberglass if you can spend a bit more.

Don't even consider those cheap china helmets. I have 1 that I use for go karting. It's extremely lightweight...about 1kg for a full face . Would highly doubt they will fair well in a crash.

As for china made shells, almost all the manufacturer have shells coming out of china. As long as it's backed by a good brand with proper certification, I'm not too concerned about where the sells come from.

Only shoei and arai comes out of Japan. Everyone else has china shells.... HJC's premium RPHA line ( PIM+ shell) is made in Korea but the cheaper polycarbonate ones comes from Vietnam. AGV top flight lids are made in Italy but the lower end lids are also out from china.

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post Sep 8 2023, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(007SMH @ Sep 8 2023, 12:00 PM)
Latest HJC that's ECE 22.06 rated is C-10 , cheapest at Rm519
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Well considering the first models out with 22.06 are all the premium level 3000+ helmets.
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post Sep 11 2023, 01:31 PM

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...if anything, just get a helmet with removable pads. You can find pretty decent open faces around 300ish.

Seriously... Its not easy to upkeep a helmet with non removable pads. It will be out of service for a few days each time it gets wet. Furthermore, it stinks and I don't want a dirty helmet sitting on my face.

For me, I just throw the pads in the washer on its own (don't wash with other clothes which might catch and snag). Just use mild detergent and no softener. Then air-dry indoors with a fan blowing on it. Dries in 1-2 days. Sometimes I will also throw in my gloves in the same wash cycle.

But in most cases, you can just hand wash them.

I have a dryer, but I still usually just air-dry the pads and gloves.

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post Sep 11 2023, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Sep 11 2023, 02:55 PM)
where can we try hjc helmets? and are you looking for one a fullface helmet?
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For HJC, you can try NKS@sentul. They are the Malaysian distributor for HJC. They supply to other dealers also.

Can try BikeEmpire@OKR or iCity Motoworld Shah Alam.

If you find the helmet you like, try to find same helmet from shopee and same seller. Then go back to the shop and ask them to match the online price. I did that with iCity where I got my RPHA70. Saved 500. As it turned out, it was cheaper than online, since I don't have to pay 27bux worth of shipping.

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post Sep 11 2023, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Sep 11 2023, 03:21 PM)
pjs 1 sana, near honda bigwing, havent called up to ask yet but they are an authorized distributor
lol!! thats exactly what i did!
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If you are already there, stop by hodaka and try the Scorpion helmets. Actually quite good value helmet as well.

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post Sep 12 2023, 12:29 PM

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Yeah, only real way to prevent fogging is to use a pinlock. Anti fog coatings don't really work.

I have the soman stick on pin lock on my spare visor as well.

Verdict is, it works, but I find a slight degradation on fidelity. Kind of very slightly opaque at curtain angles or lighting conditions.. Original pinlock is much better but expensive.

However that said there are some "OEM" pinlocks that can be found on shopee..but you have to find models that fit your visor, or get those generic fit ones that come with included pinlock posts that allow you to drill and install the posts on non-pinlock visors.

I usually just get helmets that they throw in the pinlock together. Much easier that way.
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post Sep 12 2023, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Sep 11 2023, 09:56 PM)
too many brands way too many models, already tried some bilmolas and the kyt tt corse, keep fogging the visor...

hjc is another one, way too many models and i cant even tell what the general differences are... c10, c71, c90, i91... mygod, doesnt seem like they saperate nicely into i or c category
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For HJC, C series is entry level. I and F series is mid level. RPHA is top range.

The *90 range, is modular. *70 is sport touring.

At least they simplified it somewhat...it was even more convoluted previously.

Can't blame them. They are the world's largest helmet manufacturer.
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post Sep 12 2023, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Sep 11 2023, 09:52 PM)
ohh nais, tip yg bagos
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Yeah...can cross shop first online. Then go shop test and buy.

I saw iCity selling the RHPA70 at 1550 on shopee, so went to the shop test. When asked the price they said 2050. Die die also only give 1900 . I told them match your shopee price or I walk. So at the end the relented. And I just paid and took the helmet back saving shipping had I bought it online.

NKS won't give a discount on helmets since they are holding price to protect the dealers..but you can go and test out the helmets.

Servicing will be done by NKS should you need replacement parts.
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post Sep 12 2023, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Sep 12 2023, 02:48 PM)
ahhh thankyou.... noone could tell me what the differences were.

i thoght like bilmola, even the seller said cannot explain and said aesthetics and fitment
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But of course, helmets being as diverse as there are, can have many overlaps between specs, features and prices....discounting the premium brands that sell on Thier own price points.

For helmets, even basic branded ones are fairly decent, and should be little difference in the safety aspects since they all have to pass the same 22.05 or the newer 22.06 standards, although some may pass that with a bigger margin. What you do pay for are for features, comfort, quietness and lightness as you move up along the range.

Generally entry level helmets will have only 2 shell sizes, usually of polycarbonate construction.

Mid rangers generally have either 2 or 3 shell sizes in polycarbonate and rarely fiberglass and may come with pinlock enabled visors (usually not included).

Top range helmets will have 3 or more shell sizes with either fiberglass / carbon-Kevlar or full carbon shell with pinlock included (or like scorpion, a free 2nd dark visor).

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post Sep 12 2023, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 12 2023, 06:33 PM)
Please share link
The pinlock on my rpha70 starting to degrade .
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Soman anti fog insert
https://shp.ee/qkhmhap

The link is here, although I don't recommend it. A pinlock is still better in terms of image fidelity. However no harm trying. Not had to remove it before so not sure if it will damage or leave marks the visor or not. I have this on my cheap spare visors.

This is the link to the "OEM" pinlock for the HJ26. That I mentioned earlier.
https://shp.ee/xmkfdr4
FWIW I have not ordered nor tried this yet as I'm still using my stock pinlock that came with my rpha70

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post Sep 13 2023, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(david22022022 @ Sep 13 2023, 08:49 AM)
Got myself an LS2 ADVANT 2 FF906 helmet, which was very nice compared to GiVi M35.0 I've been using for a few months. The LS2 helmet is quite heavy though and i could feel it weighting my neck as I traveled from Subang to Johor Bahru. But all in all it was a pleasant experience since the wind noise it lower despite being a modular helmet.

The issue occurred when I was travelling back from JB to Subang. It rained heavily and thought to myself, it's fine right since my M35.0 didn't have a single leak with heavier downpour. Oh boy was I in for a surprise. Literally could feel rain drop on your face every second, not water dripping, but straight up rain drops from the sky to my face. Was wearing glasses and it was flooded in here. Had to stop on the highway to

Went to the dealer that sold me this helmet and they sent it for warranty. Got so pissed, bought a Shoei NXR2 with Cardo Packtalk Edge. Best purchase ever.

1 month later, got the LS2 back. They fixed the leak but now the pinlock is now damaged and loose. it will fog between the pinlock and visor and takes a long time to clear up.

Never again.
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To be fair, modular helmets tend to not seal as well as a normal full face. My MT Atom leaks like a sieve also. That and the weight.

Not sure about the LS2, but some helmets have adjustable pinlock posts. You might be able to tension up the pinlock for a better seal.
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Sep 13 2023, 11:40 AM)
actually....speaking of modulars.... what are good full carbon fiber modulars?

was looking at AGV Sportmodular but harga kayangan
HJC Rpha90s carbon is also interesting but i already have the normal Rpha90. plus i cant seem to find the price locally...dunno still have or not since now its Rpha91 series

apa lagi ada? cheaper ones like Zeus pun ada kan? ok ke?
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Got budget then go for the tourmodular or sportmodular lah. hahahaha. That one really sexy lah. Somehow AGV tends to be slimmer, if it fits your head shape then best. Other modulars looks a bit more bulbous.

Then you have the evergreen Neotec but not in carbon.

I recall seeing a shopee listing for the RPHA90 carbon. But since its now been replaced with the 91, maybe have to wait a bit before stocks come in.

NEXX also has a carbon modular offering.


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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Sep 13 2023, 04:30 PM)
Where to check out NEXX? N hows the support for it in Malaysia?

tourmodular not carbon so tamau hahahah
Neotec is a friggin egg...n not carbon...tamau oso hahahah

Sportmodular mmg damn sexy but i cant justify the rm3k price tag la....sakit man... hopefully one day soon i can la.

Anyway...rpha90 oso dun wan.... no speaker pocket..more.like a speaker spot which is flush with the rest of the interior...had to find the slim 60mm thick speaker instead of the usual 120mm....n even then it still presses against my ear abit.....90s got proper speaker pocket so thats why looking at those.a
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Fuyoh...what speaker you use got 120mm ..sampai sampai add one extra zero.

I think bike world kepong carries NEXX. At least that's where one of my friends bought his wed.2 helmet.
I test fitted them last year. Quite comfy. The WED.2 carbon ADV is very light.

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QUOTE(Patent @ Sep 13 2023, 12:49 PM)
saw the zeus one in shopee, pretty cheap.. need to find shop to test
thats probably the cheapest one so far.

others like nexx, hjc, ls2 all around same price for carbon flip up
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Zeus just go to GBS , official importer and distributor. They have a shop in setapak and one near Giza Kota damansara.
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Sep 13 2023, 04:38 PM)
oh nice... how much was the wed 2?

looks like gotta go back kepong to check it out.. didnt recall when i was there a 1-2 months ago.
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I don't recall how much he paid for it. Maybe 2.6 or 2.8k after discount. It stickers at 3.2k at some places I've seen.

I tested them at a big bike shop in ipoh...on an emergency stopover to replace my clutch cable otw back from Thailand. So not been to kepong bike world to check them out again.
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Sep 13 2023, 11:40 AM)
actually....speaking of modulars.... what are good full carbon fiber modulars?

was looking at AGV Sportmodular but harga kayangan
HJC Rpha90s carbon is also interesting but i already have the normal Rpha90. plus i cant seem to find the price locally...dunno still have or not since now its Rpha91 series

apa lagi ada? cheaper ones like Zeus pun ada kan? ok ke?
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Apparently the RPHA 91/71 is coming in. There is a launch preview this Saturday

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Reviews of the 91 from Champion helmets seems good. Being the quietest helmet they tested so far. Too bad the regular carbon kevlar one is fucking heavy at 1750g. The full carbon one still not here yet. Maybe wait for the full carbon one and see if it can shave off some weight. Its going to be expensive though. Might go test it out this Saturday if free.

It seems that all the newer 22.06 versions of helmets are heavier than the 22.05 predecessors. The Scorpion ADX2 I was eyeing , also gained weight to a porky 1800g.

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post Sep 26 2023, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 26 2023, 01:29 PM)
1.7kg is for wht size?

nxr2 is 22.06, light for M size, sharp 5 star.
not carbon fibre, good review frm champion helmet oso..
same with agv k6s ...
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Size M probably. Manufacturer's will normally take the weight of Size M for weight.

NXR2 and K6 is a normal full face though. Modulars are heavier. The bright star is the AGV sport modular carbon. Super light.
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 26 2023, 10:32 PM)

Rpha 91 already in lor. Tested last week at serdang motorcycle. Feels very good in the head, the neck opening is big enough that I can put it in without removing my glasses(unlike the AGV Sportmodular). But somehow I wear an L for Shoei Neotec 2 but for the RPHA91 the XL fits much better than the L. The L was too tight for me. When flipped up the helmet feels better than the neotec 2 because the mechanism that pulls the chin bar closer to the helmet can really be felt. The weight of the chin bar don't feel as far out and have too much leverage on the helmet.

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Well for me I'll be waiting for the RPHA 91 Carbon, hoping it will shed off a few hundred grams. Not to mention the red graphic looks super cool with the carbon. I msged HJC Malaysia and they said will be coming in 2024 cry.gif

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Neotec 3 also increased by like 30 grams vs the neotec 2 iinm. Looks like weight increase is a side effect of complying with the new regulations. Sportmodular I tried before, even the largest size I can't wear because my neck too big. The helmet literally choking me. Also I can't out the helmet on without removing my specs, goes to show how tight the neck area is. But that weight is seriously mind blowing.
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Cool.... but Holy hell. 1900g for XL. Add a coms system and its way over 2kg.

I guess wait for the full carbon version. Going to be bleedingly expensive though. Still not too hot on the stupid HJC coms that no one uses.

Its normal for people needing to size up for HJC. I'm lucky because I'm between S and M size, so M just fits just perfect. Usually it's either too tight or too loose for S and M. The new 91 has a dedicated M sized shell so it's perfect for me.

From pictures, it seems the new 91 and 71 shell is a little wider than before. Maybe rounder shape.

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