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ipohmali70
post Nov 3 2019, 09:12 AM

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In Malaysia every company is a Chinaman company so it's not a good idea to work here.

Go overseas to US or Europe then you can avoid Chinaman company.

Best of luck to you.

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post Nov 3 2019, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(coolbuddha91 @ Nov 3 2019, 03:02 AM)


2. Can I email the company before I apply to their job posting? I mean asking questions such as working hours etc.? Or you think that it's best not to do so, especially when I'm desperate for a job and this might hinder them from inviting me to their interview session?[/b]

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I suppose you can directly ask the company whether they are Chinaman company or not.

Nothing stopping you.




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post Nov 3 2019, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(coolbuddha91 @ Nov 3 2019, 11:05 AM)
If they admit. I think they don't even realize that this term existed. I only knew about this term yesterday.
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I suppose companies don't care whether you label them Chinaman or not.

As long as they pay you a salary and they expect a certain level of performance or return.




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QUOTE(coolbuddha91 @ Nov 3 2019, 11:06 AM)
Ang moh way, Denmark way but still have to suit the local culture
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If you want to suit local culture, then it's the Chinaman way already.

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post Nov 3 2019, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(coolbuddha91 @ Nov 3 2019, 11:24 AM)
Haha, true also. Oh well, what do I know. Only when I work for in a German company in Germany then I will know...

But to be more specific what I mean is if I ever hire a Malay employee, I'd like them to be able to go for Friday prayer something like that. Mindset/concept still based on Germany style.
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Errrr... Letting Muslims perform their prayers, that's the culture here, Chinaman company or otherwise.

You want 100% Germany style, you need to have the following:

1. Pay RM 10k starting salary for fresh grads.
2. 5 day work week.
3. No work or staying back after 5, absolutely no OT.
4. No WhatsApp/ email after 5pm. It's against the law.
5. Absolutely no pressuring the employee.
6. 30 to 45 days annual leave.
7. 6 months maternity leave
8. 2 months paternity leave
9. Free snacks tea for morning and afternoon.
10. Subsidised lunch.
11. Free 15 minute massage once a day.

Do the above and I salute you.

Anything less, you're still a Chinaman company.

Good luck.







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post Nov 3 2019, 12:51 PM

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Imagine if you have a project to hang a picture on a wall, you need to do this:


1. Get a civil engineer to survey the wall strength c/w calculations to prove that the wall can safely withstand the weight of the picture.
2. Purchaser to buy DIN and TUV compliant hammer and nails.
3. Buy helmet, coverall, gloves, safety shoes, safety glasses, mask, ear plugs.
4. One person to hold the nail.
5. One person to strike with hammer
6. One person to hang the picture
7. Standby ambulance, nurse and paramedic on site in case anyone get injured.
8. Civil engineer to sign off on project.

Anything short of the above is Chinaman style.

Good luck!

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post Nov 3 2019, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(coolbuddha91 @ Nov 3 2019, 01:07 PM)
Wow, a dream environment. Looks like it's going to be impossible in Malaysia. but who knows kan...
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No it's not impossible.

Waiting for you to start the first internationally certified non Chinaman company.

Hire me as General Manager with salary of RM120K a month together with:

2 months annual leave
4 day work week
Daily 9am until 4pm (to beat the jam)
Free overseas travel and holiday
Business class air travel (no need private jet)
Free medical
No performance target.
Free meals.
Lifetime pension
Bodyguards.
Company car (minimum Mercedes) with driver
Company house with piapable maid.
Free education for my children.
Free daily massage
That's all.

After you start the company, let me know and you'll receive my earnest application and CV.

Anything less, you're still called a Chinaman company.

Cheers.








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post Nov 3 2019, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Nov 3 2019, 09:35 AM)
An employee isnt a 'chinaman' until he becomes an employer.
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Well said, well said.

The employee doesn't know what sacrifices, challenges and risks it takes to become an employer. It is so easy for the employee to label his employer as "Chinaman" when he himself cannot fit in to work culture, cannot take criticism, cannot perform and cannot overcome challenges.


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post Nov 3 2019, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(Murasaki322 @ Nov 3 2019, 01:45 PM)
If there's actually something like that I bet everybody would apply lol.
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Hey TS is going to start the first internationally certified non Chinaman company in Malaysia.

I'm first to apply. You get in line behind me.


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post Nov 3 2019, 03:17 PM

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Huge MNCs are also Chinamans in disguise.

 

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