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the only one worth investing is probably mcd and maybe tealive only...

and that also take many years later only can get clean profit
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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Oct 30 2019, 08:00 PM)
the only one worth investing is probably mcd and maybe tealive only...

and that also take many years later only can get clean profit
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What factors did you consider from Tealive?

From the photo about there are two data point missing on Tealive. I'm curious how you arrive to that decision ... initial fee?
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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ Oct 30 2019, 08:02 PM)
What factors did you consider from Tealive?

From the photo about there are two data point missing on Tealive. I'm curious how you arrive to that decision ... initial fee?
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popularity and drink prices for starters..

cause its still cheaper compared to its main competitors
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post Oct 30 2019, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Oct 30 2019, 08:05 PM)
popularity and drink prices for starters..

cause its still cheaper compared to its main competitors
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I am also curious myself how Tealive can tank this next 1/2 years ahead..

Surely at some point, their profits will be affected considering the amount of bubble tea popping up everywhere in Malaysia providing alternative types of dessert + drinks + style (franchise outlook)..


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post Oct 30 2019, 08:09 PM

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If we not so Taliban hooters would be a hit here. At least can confirm half of /k foreveralone will come to see tetek
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post Oct 30 2019, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Oct 30 2019, 08:00 PM)
the only one worth investing is probably mcd and maybe tealive only...

and that also take many years later only can get clean profit
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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ Oct 30 2019, 08:02 PM)
What factors did you consider from Tealive?

From the photo about there are two data point missing on Tealive. I'm curious how you arrive to that decision ... initial fee?
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I personally don't think TL can sustained. Its merely a hype thingy. Same goes to all the bubblebutt bubble tea company.

When something new viral, its going to go down and close shop.

Example - what is the previous viral thingy? That's right. No one remember.
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post Oct 30 2019, 08:13 PM

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post Oct 30 2019, 08:18 PM

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kepc sure win because we are org kita
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Oct 30 2019, 08:11 PM)
I personally don't think TL can sustained. Its merely a hype thingy. Same goes to all the bubblebutt bubble tea company.

When something new viral, its going to go down and close shop.

Example - what is the previous viral thingy? That's right. No one remember.
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Remember the burger hype? Especially the charcoal burger

Burgerlab is still doing well.. i guess those that started first are usually the surviving one, the rest slowly died
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post Oct 30 2019, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(scorptim @ Oct 30 2019, 08:09 PM)
If we not so Taliban hooters would be a hit here. At least can confirm half of /k foreveralone will come to see tetek
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Hooters - the hero we deserve
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post Oct 30 2019, 08:27 PM

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Tealive open nearby High school and opis surely sell a lot.
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post Oct 30 2019, 08:28 PM

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post Oct 30 2019, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Oct 30 2019, 08:11 PM)
I personally don't think TL can sustained. Its merely a hype thingy. Same goes to all the bubblebutt bubble tea company.

When something new viral, its going to go down and close shop.

Example - what is the previous viral thingy? That's right. No one remember.
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Tealive, or chatime presence is almost 10 years old in malaysia.

Way before previous viral thingy like hokaido cheese tart, or maybe even longer than burger bakar thing. I remember burger bakar hype circa 2011 - 2013.

At this point, tealive / chatime is slowly becoming necessity like kfc, mcd, starbuck etc.

So i guess they can survive.
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QUOTE(sohailayhun @ Oct 30 2019, 07:59 PM)
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post Oct 30 2019, 08:28 PM

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post Oct 30 2019, 08:30 PM

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babi kepsi mahal...

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post Oct 30 2019, 08:30 PM

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papparich 1.5mill?
wow....
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post Oct 30 2019, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(arc_archive @ Oct 30 2019, 08:30 PM)
babi kepsi mahal...

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Kepci is like traditional food already.

Thats how strong kfc market is here.
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post Oct 30 2019, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(scorptim @ Oct 30 2019, 08:09 PM)
If we not so Taliban hooters would be a hit here. At least can confirm half of /k foreveralone will come to see tetek
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Maybe hooters can modifly a bit bcum hijabhooters the nen nen still cover but must be big n plush shape very shape

How
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QUOTE(nasilemaksedap @ Oct 30 2019, 08:32 PM)
Maybe hooters can modifly a bit bcum hijabhooters the nen nen still cover but must be big n plush shape very shape

How
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Covered but tight tight kah?
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post Oct 30 2019, 08:48 PM

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ayam rather invest on Ramli
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Oct 30 2019, 08:33 PM)
Covered but tight tight kah?
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Yes very the tight for non muslim hooters will be perfect brows.gif
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post Oct 30 2019, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Oct 30 2019, 08:23 PM)
Hooters - the hero we deserve
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Yep, imagine a breastaurant with big boobs awek, amoi and minachi. Hnnnnnghhhh!

QUOTE(nasilemaksedap @ Oct 30 2019, 08:32 PM)
Maybe hooters can modifly a bit bcum hijabhooters the nen nen still cover but must be big n plush shape very shape

How
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I rike your idea, machiem nenenlofap liddat ah?

Example:



QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Oct 30 2019, 08:33 PM)
Covered but tight tight kah?
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Rase rase 😏

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post Oct 30 2019, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(chamelion @ Oct 30 2019, 08:18 PM)
kepc sure win because we are org kita
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AFAIK
KFC don't offer franchise
they're all run by KFC themselves
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post Oct 30 2019, 09:01 PM

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are you sure tealive is that cheap
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QUOTE(scorptim @ Oct 30 2019, 08:09 PM)
If we not so Taliban hooters would be a hit here. At least can confirm half of /k foreveralone will come to see tetek
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their cheap booze and big dipper fries gooding ...
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post Oct 30 2019, 09:07 PM

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Looks like BK has the lowest barrier to entry. Since the barrier to entry is lowest this has the highest chance for success provided the location found was a great one.
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post Oct 30 2019, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ Oct 30 2019, 08:08 PM)
I am also curious myself how Tealive can tank this next 1/2 years ahead..

Surely at some point, their profits will be affected considering the amount of bubble tea popping up everywhere in Malaysia providing alternative types of dessert + drinks + style (franchise outlook)..
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Those bubble tea are expensive and more for premium. Tealive is targeting budget market. Like Digi got the RM 3.99 voucher for RM 6.50 and other promo. Even after all that still make profit.

Tealive trying to become staple drink with optional diabetes since you can customize sugar levels.
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post Oct 30 2019, 09:35 PM

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xin fung tang franchising fee is red paint
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QUOTE(cucumber @ Oct 30 2019, 08:28 PM)
Family Mart got ar?
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Got. @ commercial-familymart@ql.com.my

Expand at other states. KL Selangor too full. Open at Penang Perak Kedah lah.

FamilyMart and Mekdi seem profitable enough vs others.
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QUOTE(RagingBalls @ Oct 30 2019, 09:07 PM)
Looks like BK has the lowest barrier to entry. Since the barrier to entry is lowest this has the highest chance for success provided the location found was a great one.
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You'll have to compete with homegrown names like myburgerlab, spade's burger, KGB, and burgertory. Not to mention the many MANY different ramly burger stalls around.
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QUOTE(Lurker @ Oct 30 2019, 08:30 PM)
papparich 1.5mill?
wow....
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my reaction too

no way this shit costs this much
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QUOTE(LawdRetep @ Oct 30 2019, 09:53 PM)
You'll have to compete with homegrown names like myburgerlab, spade's burger, KGB, and burgertory. Not to mention the many MANY different ramly burger stalls around.
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Sure, everyone should have their own market-share under the sun, its only to be expected.
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QUOTE(fu'house @ Oct 30 2019, 09:43 PM)
Got. @ commercial-familymart@ql.com.my

Expand at other states. KL Selangor too full. Open at Penang Perak Kedah lah.

FamilyMart and Mekdi seem profitable enough vs others.
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What's the ballpark cost? You a franchisee?
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Oct 30 2019, 08:11 PM)
I personally don't think TL can sustained. Its merely a hype thingy. Same goes to all the bubblebutt bubble tea company.

When something new viral, its going to go down and close shop.

Example - what is the previous viral thingy? That's right. No one remember.
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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Oct 30 2019, 08:20 PM)
Remember the burger hype? Especially the charcoal burger

Burgerlab is still doing well.. i guess those that started first are usually the surviving one, the rest slowly died
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QUOTE(viole @ Oct 30 2019, 08:28 PM)
Tealive, or chatime presence is almost 10 years old in malaysia.

Way before previous viral thingy like hokaido cheese tart, or maybe even longer than burger bakar thing. I remember burger bakar hype circa 2011 - 2013.

At this point, tealive / chatime is slowly becoming necessity like kfc, mcd, starbuck etc.

So i guess they can survive.
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TL first wave, also they probably have enough cash flow to tank for years ahead, but 2018/19 probably isn't a major year for them since the competitors are everywhere atm.

Also this TL companies have many different F&B belt under them to penetrate different market. I just don't think one should open more TL shops because the owner himself can tank open until 100+ shops himself..

I remember reading about TL in Bloomberg... want to go IPO with valuation of RM300mil ..


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Somebody please open In-and-out burger franchise in Malaysia plz
I just can't deal with mcD burger already, it just suck and plain

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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ Oct 30 2019, 08:08 PM)
I am also curious myself how Tealive can tank this next 1/2 years ahead..

Surely at some point, their profits will be affected considering the amount of bubble tea popping up everywhere in Malaysia providing alternative types of dessert + drinks + style (franchise outlook)..
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Tealive going ipo soon ..other bubble tea can keep skin
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I still believe Tealive can make it
Because it has HALAL certified
HALAL is big thing in Malaysia apparently
Look at how many moslems queue in Tealive.
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I hardy see people buying things from 7e nowadays except maybe for cig...now with new competitor like KK mart Family mart and aceh stepping up their game, then need to pay 100k + 10% royalty somemore..i don't think it appealing
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QUOTE(yeezai @ Oct 31 2019, 01:24 AM)
Tealive going ipo soon ..other bubble tea can keep skin
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Anyone did analysis with the Loob Holdings?
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Oct 31 2019, 01:27 AM)
I still believe Tealive can make it
Because it has HALAL certified
HALAL is big thing in Malaysia apparently
Look at how many moslems queue in Tealive.
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This one good reassurance only.

There's Malay who opens bubble tea or bingsu shop, hire Malay employees and it works out well for them too..

Those korean brands out there..
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QUOTE(arc_archive @ Oct 30 2019, 08:30 PM)
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post Oct 31 2019, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Oct 30 2019, 08:11 PM)
I personally don't think TL can sustained. Its merely a hype thingy. Same goes to all the bubblebutt bubble tea company.

When something new viral, its going to go down and close shop.

Example - what is the previous viral thingy? That's right. No one remember.
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That frutty frutty by Naza. It taste really good, wonder why business collapse
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QUOTE(Percival II @ Oct 31 2019, 01:40 AM)
That frutty frutty by Naza. It taste really good, wonder why business collapse
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Its a hype thingy. It always a cycle of event. Expensive summore, making it even harder to sustain.

Thats what TL going to be.

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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ Oct 31 2019, 01:31 AM)
This one good reassurance only.

There's Malay who opens bubble tea or bingsu shop, hire Malay employees and it works out well for them too..

Those korean brands out there..
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True, and it works.

Halal now becoming more to marketing branding rather than what it suppose to be.

Mindset nowadays : halal = food.


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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Oct 31 2019, 11:56 AM)
True, and it works.

Halal now becoming more to marketing branding rather than what it suppose to be.

Mindset nowadays : halal = food.
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Similar to how business obtain ISO for their image rather than actualizing it in real world practices.

Also, sometimes you want to beat the Halal and not apply, just create an illusion by hiring Malay workers.
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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ Oct 31 2019, 01:10 AM)
I remember reading about TL in Bloomberg... want to go IPO with valuation of RM300mil ..
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Valuation alone is not enough. Sustainability is the major factor.

Example : Candy crush @ https://www.businessinsider.com/candy-crush...ine-2014-2?IR=T
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Oct 31 2019, 12:00 PM)
Valuation alone is not enough. Sustainability is the major factor.

Example : Candy crush @ https://www.businessinsider.com/candy-crush...ine-2014-2?IR=T
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Hehe my valuation there is termed as a joke considering how unicorns are talking 1bil valuation easily these days.. not even sure how true.

Sustainability - WeWork huhu... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...at-saudi-summit

huhuhu
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Family Mart ada? Pls post here if any info
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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Oct 31 2019, 12:03 PM)
Family Mart ada? Pls post here if any info
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This on the other hand, probably have a better chance.

Not too expensive, afforable to mass market and kinda unique on-the-go food.

If I were given a choice, I would be choosing FM as well.
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What happen to tutti fruity? Still got shop in malaysia? Last time quite hype
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