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 Wahed Invest Malaysia, Good, Ok2, Bad?

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post Mar 4 2021, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Mar 4 2021, 06:15 PM)
r u sure now is the lowest ?
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Currently hovering 0.44 so it’s the lowest so when inflations hits it will rise quicker than you think

Buy small won’t kill you one rclxms.gif
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post Mar 4 2021, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Mar 4 2021, 06:20 PM)
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Won’t go down so much anymore because still got a lot QE going on around the world

Today already up again to 0.449 rclxms.gif
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post Mar 5 2021, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(myroy @ Mar 5 2021, 08:27 PM)
return quite bad haa for past week
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Bad since YTD now gonna drop to below to 30 soon anytime
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post Mar 6 2021, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(myroy @ Mar 5 2021, 08:47 PM)
what should i do?
continue topup or let it go for a while?
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Hold until you make money then decide

I already sold off because it’s already struggling to stay at 34 and they got dragged big time by Apple and Tesla
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post Mar 24 2021, 03:05 AM

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QUOTE(chidori @ Mar 23 2021, 01:24 PM)
Hello there,

It seems that there has been not many discussion regarding Wahed.
After 1 year+ DCA in Wahed, I have withdraw all my funds last year.

Just wondering and would like to get your opinion if I should re-enter Wahed,

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Unless HLAL ETF is dropping to 27.70 then the is time to reenergise

CUrrently at 34 forget about it
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post Mar 27 2021, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(fms21 @ Mar 27 2021, 02:56 PM)
Sukuk down 5.51% on Friday..
I believe VA cannot produce this kind of result in 1 day..
Anyone know what happened to this unit?
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Bond yields went down all over the world
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post Mar 27 2021, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(fms21 @ Mar 27 2021, 03:01 PM)
Ok noted..just try my luck on this portfolio (VC) since GOLD not moving this week..hope it will bounce back this year with good capital appreciated and dividend..
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Bonds are gone case already with so much stimulus and buy backs all over the world

You better off buying gold ETF to hedge the inflation coming faster than ever
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post Apr 3 2021, 03:12 AM

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QUOTE(man @ Apr 2 2021, 10:21 PM)
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I guess it's time for me to close my account
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You should because the fees itself eats up more than your earning very minisicule return if it’s aggressive rclxms.gif
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post Apr 3 2021, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(man @ Apr 3 2021, 11:50 AM)
Yea, on aggressive. I think the fees is too high, not worth it. Will put the money somewhere else.
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Even their aggressive shows only 9% return when the actual ETF should be returning at 13%

I just tried a month to find out on how it works rclxms.gif
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post Apr 3 2021, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(rubrubrub @ Apr 3 2021, 03:19 AM)
forget about all these shitty funds since most of you guys here are going for aggresive portfolio anyway. Ive invested in stashaway, wahed and mytheo and they all had negative return when the whole world's stocks were/ are going up. Try defi. I'll willingly teach you guys how to do it just so you guys can stay away from these stupid funds
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You should a start a thread on that now rclxms.gif
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post Apr 4 2021, 07:16 AM

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QUOTE(myroy @ Apr 3 2021, 10:06 PM)
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tired of this...
last year using aggressive, after covid hit.... i loss abit

now just because want to safe a bit, i moved to moderate...
anddddd loss even more....
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You should not move to moderate as now you’re putting into losses with Sukuk and local Bursa ETFs

If you stay the course probably would have break even

Anything less than 8% loss consider yourself lucky could be worse
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post Apr 4 2021, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(myroy @ Apr 4 2021, 12:47 PM)
i need advice
so what you think the best for me right now?
can sukuk recover back? or just withdraw everything now rather than i loss more
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I would hold because Sukuk will recover soon

Unless if you have SA then i would consolidate it for better returns

Wahed unless HLAL ETFs can hit 40usd which I highly doubt so in comparison to IVV

But difficult to see unless you can show me what portfolio weightage on Sukuk and the buy price
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post Apr 9 2021, 03:08 AM

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QUOTE(jerrylo @ Apr 8 2021, 11:07 AM)
im just started invest using wahed.
as for now, just open 1 poftfolio - gold
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You better off taking advantage FSM promo now free commission this month for Gold ETF as it is the same product minus less fees doh.gif
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post Apr 9 2021, 03:08 AM

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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Apr 8 2021, 12:53 PM)
Just a personal advice, if you are only buying gold to hold, it's probably better to register a simple cash account in stock brokers like M+/Rakuten and buy GOLDETF https://tradeplus.com.my/gold-tracker directly, less fees incurred.
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Yeah plus with promo in FSM this month save on 0% commission
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post Apr 11 2021, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(CPURanger @ Apr 11 2021, 12:18 PM)
Anyone knows how the percentage is calculated ?

For example,
Total invested RM4001.00.
As at 6/2/2021 shown on the app, it's at RM4204.26. Earn RM203.26 (8.10%).

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Gains divided by invested amount multiply by 100%
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post Apr 11 2021, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(CPURanger @ Apr 11 2021, 08:07 PM)
Yes, I have tried the formula you mention before,
(203.26 / 4001.0) * 100.0 =  5.08%
The app last shows 8.10%

Somehow couldn't get 8.10.
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Did you calculate some the monthly charges as well?
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post Apr 11 2021, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(CPURanger @ Apr 11 2021, 09:24 PM)
Nope.
OK, under Portfolio summary, Wahed Fees RM is 10.69. I am not sure if is fees per month.

Let's just say, RM10 fees per month
I started from August to March, it's 8 months
8 months * 10 = RM 80

((203.26 + 80.0) / 4001.0) * 100.0 = 7.07%

Probably some other fee involve or fees is different every month  hmm.gif . Anyway just curious, how the percentage is calculated.
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The other 1% gain is through Forex gain in your case in HLAL ETF

You better check when you invest lumpsum or DCA the entire amount is actually invested because i think they the cash portion should be calculated as gain

Hence the actual invested out of 4001 should be 3961 invested

Actual gain after fees is 6.14 with 0.8 as fees and 1% cash on hand plus 0.2 a small forex gain


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post May 5 2021, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ May 5 2021, 04:56 PM)
RM 1 is really high  rclxub.gif
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Because Wahed taken hit on FX hence FPX charges just to cover their cost on FX conversion

Good luck to them getting new investors as the year should lower expense ratio and charge FPX instead to cover their costs doh.gif
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post May 6 2021, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ May 5 2021, 09:07 PM)
How much can this RM1 cover? Probably many of their users doing deposit every minute maybe. Really turn away customers.
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If you don’t think it is a lot in fact it is a lot

For every deposit assuming rm100 each it itself 1% you can’t guesstimate

Just like BigPay to reload in 711 2% on top on charges which already close 3%

They already turning the customer and whatever their marketing gonna do it is waste of money and time


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post May 6 2021, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ May 6 2021, 11:15 AM)
money is money regardless of amount. 1 cent is still money. for example, if stashaway can do it in 3 days why should i park my money in wahed which needs 5 days? unless wahed can guarantee higher returns for this extra 2 days of delay.
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Agreed unless Wahed can give 2 day so interest then it’s will be a game changer

Otherwise better off buying into the one with fastest settlement because the 2 days can impact buy and sell price which a lot if ppl need don’t understand coupled FX loss or gain upon settlement for overseas equities particularly



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