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post Jan 17 2008, 05:16 PM

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Just watched this.Word of advice,don't sit too close to the screen. tongue.gif

QUOTE(hairyLGS @ Jan 17 2008, 03:56 PM)
Yeah... why shake so much? They have a "night vision" camera (spoiler) but no anti-shake function... duh...
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Have you tried using a handheld camera while walking around? No anti-shake function is gonna help in such a situation sweat.gif
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post Jan 17 2008, 07:17 PM

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I didn't stay for credits either sweat.gif

Whatt was there? Hopefully it'll be out on youtube soon laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jayniel @ Jan 17 2008, 10:32 PM)
LOUSY! no wonder they dun wanna tell da plot at all..... of coz lar.. who wanna watch anyway if not bcoz of curiosity....
at a lot of absurd things like:
1) Beth was stab terribly on her chest... all the fren can pull of her from da thing... And she can  survived da whole night, running quite far without even bleeding

2) Hud was not running at all when he was under da monster... instead he film da monster.. somemore after he died, da fren drag him without being harm by da monster...

3) Usually under catastrophic, a police wont let a civillian wander around da town, but tiz police let him go...

Da bad things bout tiz movie ARE!!!!!
1) no story describing bout da beginning of monster
2) NO AFTERMATH!!!!! (a.k.a no ending)
3) poor graphic, better learn from korean movie d-wars!!
4) stupid running ere n there wit camera, at least increase da quality and stability
5) no songs.... please dun say OST of tiz movie will be released
6) try to make a romantic movie, but is not romantic at all
ANY1 got any other additional info??????
really SS ---> super sucks, super stupid, super s***, super sampah, super s**l,  super sakai
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1) And why can't they pull her? The recordings weren't constantly on,so I'm sure they had time to tend to her etc.And when ur life is at stake,u run despite whatever bleeding ur facing.

2) When ur under a monster u don't run,you freak out

3) Yea USUALLY. This was one of those unusual cases.

2nd part
1) Coz...it was a video recording? I mean,they obviously don't know where on earth this lil monster poped out from,how would u want them to explain?

2) There was an ending,they all died

3) What was wrong with the graphics? o_O It's from the viewpoint of a handheld cam,you want them to polish everything up?

4) Try not even running but walking with a handheld cam,and show me some stable shots.

5) You clearly did not get the whole handheld cam concept did you sweat.gif

6) Lol I don't think it was about romance sweat.gif
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QUOTE(TC_Boy @ Jan 17 2008, 11:22 PM)
Seems like the ending should have been the tape later being ejected out from a player. On the coffee table, you see a newspaper with a cover up story as headlines. Then the tape is labeled Cloverfield. Then placed into a brown box with number and taken away to be filed away at the same place where all top secret X-files stuff go.
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And...buh bye whole movie is actually a recording. Srsly,that's the whole point they left it there.You're supposed to walk out of the cinema feeling like,well,like you just watched a recording of some horrific invasion thingie. How hard is it really to grasp that concept.And what the heck is everyone' fascination with a so called "proper" ending.
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QUOTE(TC_Boy @ Jan 18 2008, 09:45 AM)
Bad camera, Transformers had bad camera work but not as bad as Cloverfield. Damn Cloverfield is just spoiled by having everything viewed thru the videocam. I think it should have been done like FPS games or those POV porns and not thru the damn bad image quality & shaky videocam.
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FPS,as in through a person's eye? If so,you wouldn't have had a CLOVERFIELD movie anymore sweat.gif
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QUOTE(TC_Boy @ Jan 18 2008, 11:11 AM)
Yes, it would. You see, almost all movies are made with the cam as a 3rd person. The cam is not a person. You never see the cam looking straight at people and people looking & talking straight to the cam.
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No it wouldn't. The whole point behind "cloverfield" is that it's an evidence the government picked up after the event,hence the recording. And fps view would have been someone's experience,not something the government can go about "picking up"

And fps view would have defeated the whole concept behind cloverfield.

And regarding the "shaking" aspect,the movie was recorded using handheld vid cams,like this :

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Remember,they were suppose to be in a panic situation, panting and running from some unknown invasion,so you can't compare it to some regular documentary.

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 18 2008, 12:49 PM)
FYI, I'm a camcorder user. Since I intend to let people watch the movie I take,
I make sure it is properly hold. Shake also shake in a very slow motion.  Else,
no matter how new the thing in the camera, I won't go and see it liao.
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But when you're running from an unknown invasion,do you even have the time to consider proper usage etc
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 18 2008, 05:32 PM)
if u think like that, do you even have the time to consider taking video at all
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This arguement is getting silly n trivial,but for the sake of it :-

Why of course.Especially if I was busy recording somethin and all of a sudden u hear screams and explosions roar over you,why won't u continue recording.
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QUOTE(Makakeke @ Jan 18 2008, 06:19 PM)
Oh man, give this movie a break and just enjoy it without finding any plot holes with it. The fact that the producers made this film totallly in videocam fps view is so that they don't have to bother telling you about the monster's origin and what happened next. A good monster movie doesn't explain everything for you, it leaves you imagining the entire situation, not to be spoonfed until the very end.

The ending of the film is probably one of the best endings I've seen recently. I wouldn't wanna know the real ending, nor do I wanna see the monster being defeated by missiles and jets. Have you not see enough of crap like this? The ending was abrupt and refreshing at the same time, without giving you any chance to gather your thoughts before the end of the show. Those of you who can't take this concept should go back and watch Ultraman.
If you can't take shaky cam, that's a reasonable excuse though.
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Agreed.Especially in regards to the ending. (and going back to Ultraman laugh.gif)

QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Jan 18 2008, 06:23 PM)
If it's about the flying monster diving into the water, I have to disagree. Why wait so long to cause havoc?
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Ask the monster?

Lol no,really,that's trivial.I mean,u could come up with all kinds of stuff (like the monster was in some hibernation form waitin to come out,or watever) but that's really besides the point.


Added on January 18, 2008, 6:31 pm
QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Jan 18 2008, 06:28 PM)
Well we all understand what the film maker wish to address here...
Just that it whole cam recording can be done in a better way, least logic but much pleasent to watch for the audiences smile.gif
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Probably the director didn't want "pleasent" Probably the director wanted ppl leaving the cinema feeling that they've indeed just watched a real recording picked up by the government,stuff like that.

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 18 2008, 06:34 PM)
because I don't like dizzy stuff such as Blair Witch, FPS game and now Cloverfield. OMG!!!!!!!!!!
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Then you probably should have opted to pass on this movie,when ppl were talkin bout how the viewpoint was gonna be
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QUOTE(mosai @ Jan 19 2008, 12:03 PM)
This is one of the post in imdb
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Again its not mine, i nick it off one of the poster there
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Nice find smile.gif

Kinda clears up some stuff,like why the monster left Hud's body there,which was among what ppl were calling a "loophole"

Pretty cool stuff
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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 19 2008, 08:50 PM)
Sorry to break your excitement! After came out of the cinema, I have been cursing the show. It's for the first 15 minutes and the camera is shaking so much. I hate this kind of shooting! The movie has no proper ending. I feel so boring and sleepy during the whole show and it's a short show too. This is far worse than Golden Compass. Wasted RM 10 for such a crap production.  No offence but that what I experienced and I won't recommend my friends for this shitty movie. It'll be a big surprise if this movie is being rated as top 10 movies for the year. I'm so disappointed after the hype and trailer from this thread.
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I was thinkin of writting a retaliation,but that has I've done that to several others in the thread and kobe has specifically targetted u.

So,go watch Garfield
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QUOTE(paco @ Jan 19 2008, 09:56 PM)
what are you trying to say?
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I think he wants you finished off. Could probably be refferin to death or somethin of a lesser degree.Who knows

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QUOTE(jiahuilee @ Jan 19 2008, 10:00 PM)
agree
but disagree with what kobe has said... sometimes in movie you are looking for the element of surprise or what some called fresh idea... no doubt it is good to do some research on what u are going to watch but to go into fine details has defeated the purpose of even visiting the cinema in the first place. For me, i read the synopsis of the story, and it sounds interesting to me... but after 30 minutes of watching the movie... i have realize that as interesting as it may sound, the camera shaking thing has really put me and also many of my friends off.. and i can see many people leaving before the hour mark... so yea.. this movie sux
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There is a difference between preference and a movie being of "sux" as you put it.

I don't like it,ppl walk out = movie suxzomgbbq?

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QUOTE(paco @ Jan 19 2008, 10:04 PM)
well, since when here can't have negative comment about movie? And it turns out to be hope someone who gave dfferent opinion be death?

I don't want to come in to this thread, the moderator close the other thread that I opened previously. Warning need to be gave to all people before they steps in cinema to watch this movie.
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By all means,spurn out the negative comments.I don't think anyone here thinks the movie is perfect.It's far from it.I'm sure we all have some negative comment to speak of.

But,tell us something we don't already know. We get the idea the camera is shaky.It's meant to be that way.The movie doesn't suck because of that

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QUOTE(jiahuilee @ Jan 19 2008, 10:08 PM)
no offence ... what is your impression on many people leaving the cinema before an hour?

if that is a sign of good movie to u... i have nothing else to add...  smile.gif
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No offence but what is your impression on $18 Mil at the Friday Box-Office?

Is that a sign of a bad movie to u...i have nothing else to add smile.gif

Oh wait,I do.There's that old saying : The numbers don't lie
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QUOTE(hairyLGS @ Jan 19 2008, 10:16 PM)
So just pour in your comments but do not pour in your own personal opinion and tell everyone not to watch... let the rest judge themselves whether to watch or not... besides, this movie is something that do stands on its own... whether it is original or not...
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Quoted for truth.

i.e. you having motion sickness =/= crappy movie (this statement is obviously not directed at hairyLGS)
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Nothing is wrong with disliking a movie.

Judging a movie as being crappy due to stuff like camera shakiness/lack of explanation regarding monster etc is what is ticking certain ppl off.

U could say stuff like "I really disliked the whole handheld nonsense" But saying stuff like "zomg movie sux i lost 10 bucks wtf give me monies back" is just plain annoying.
It gives a false impression (to others who just poped into the thread) that the movie sucks for a fact when it was actually a matter of preference (and in this case,a lack of understanding of what the movie's concept is and what it was trying to convey,be it by the inclusion or exclusion of certain stuff)

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QUOTE(paco @ Jan 19 2008, 11:09 PM)
totally agree with you.

oh hell.yea, we have to do our own reseach on the back story before we watch movie, then what's the point to watch it? Movie should tell us the story at the moment we step into the cinema. If we have to dig out the storyline or the answer before or after watching the movie, I doubt what's the purpose of watching movie.
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No one's asking you to dig out the storyline. Just get simple facts straight.

For instance,u generally find out the genre of a movie before u watch one,no?

Understanding that the movie is of a documentary style i.e. handheld cam i.e. u can't take it would have saved u ur 10 bucks.
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QUOTE(paco @ Jan 19 2008, 11:16 PM)
see, all just our imagination to make up the story, oh..wait, that's the purpose of the movie, makes all audience become part of script writter......
NO, I don't buy it.
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From where we come from,it's known as "open-ended"

Besides,that's what follow up stuff,be it in the form of the manga or a sequel (which ppl are predicting) is for.
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QUOTE(paco @ Jan 19 2008, 11:24 PM)
I know it's handheld cam, I know is regarding monster, I think that's enough for me to know before I watch the movie. Well, I hate handheld cam, some say they like it and can get used to it, fine. The storyline is crappy, that's the fact, which let me feel so not worth it. I stand for the dizzy (one and half hours), and what I get back is NOTHING, all NO ANSWER,
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Bolded part : Uh...yea,sure.

What is ur obsession with answers? Do you not like some mystery leaving the cinema,something to talk about,something to speculate,which say,is answered in the form of some mangas (lol) or even a sequel? sweat.gif

I blame this on Malaysian education,everything must be spoon fed laugh.gif (no offense,just a random thought)

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