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post Oct 6 2019, 04:19 PM, updated 7y ago

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He asked me out next week to explain and demo about Kangen Water.

When I asked how much is the Kangen Water purifier, he didn't answer but he is using it and will explain the benefit of drinking Kangen Water e.g can heal illness and highly recommended by doctor (typical sales pitch)

Out of curiosity, I google it and found out Kangen Water is also MLM type

https://www.lazymanandmoney.com/kangen-water-scam/

Haiz why so many youngsters and elders like to work in MLM?

Update:

So, we met up and he explained Kangen water is actually ionized hydrogen alkaline water from PH 9-11. I told him drinking alkaline water is useless as our body PH balance will neutralise back to 7/7.x.

He agreed but he explained further that our body used the minerals stored in our cell and bone to balance up the acidic food we eat everyday. Because of this, old folks usually have joint problems due to mineral insufficiency.

He added drinking Kangen water can ease our body from using up the mineral inside our body to maintain good health and prevent illnesses.

Then, he started comparing to other alkaline water purifiers like Panasonic which the ionizer plates need to be replaced every 2-3 years unlike Kangen water purifier the plates can last for 20-25 years and you only need to change the water filter every 6000 litres usage.

He did some demo like pour normal water and Kangen water to see the difference. He highlighted 3 major benefits about Kangen water:

Antioxidant- Protect cells from free radicals that play a role in heart disease, cancer n etc.

Ionized - Restoring body's alkalinity can detoxify it

Microclusters - Much smaller 5-6 molecules clusters for better hydration because it's more readily absorbed by the body.

Lastly, he ended with Kangen water is the best ionized water in the market. Amway is the best in clean water category. Elken is the best in RO water. Different type of water purifier.

I just thanked him and take a bottle of Kangen water back to try it out. It tastes different though. Feel so smooth. Feel like I can bench 2 plates now rolleyes.gif

I think I will survey other water purifier as well. 13k for a water purifier is damn expensive although if you see long term 20 years usage....then it is not that expensive.

Any experts want to challenge this claims from Kangen water salesman?

This post has been edited by SomaCruz89: Oct 10 2019, 01:24 PM
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post Oct 6 2019, 04:20 PM

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The new thing my mum get introduced from her friend is water resonator. Not sure what it is.
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post Oct 6 2019, 04:21 PM

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I wouldn't say it's a scam. More like gray area health product.

It basically filters n alkalies your drinking water. Alkaline water is apparently better for your body cos everything we consume is mostly acidic.

But is it worth that money? I dunno.

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post Oct 6 2019, 04:22 PM

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kangen water 6k.

better spend all that money buy bacfree. can buy over 30 filters. that itself will last you almost 30 years.
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QUOTE(SomaCruz89 @ Oct 6 2019, 04:19 PM)
He asked me out next week to explain and demo about Kangen Water.

When I asked how much is the Kangen Water purifier, he didn't answer but he is using it and will explain the benefit of drinking Kangen Water e.g can heal illness and highly recommended by doctor (typical sales pitch)

Out of curiosity, I google it and found out Kangen Water is also MLM type

https://www.lazymanandmoney.com/kangen-water-scam/

Haiz why so many youngsters and elders like to work in MLM?
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Report fren to Ministry of Health and claim the reward?
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post Oct 6 2019, 04:23 PM

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Because everyone loves money.
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post Oct 6 2019, 04:23 PM

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Hahahha. Biasalah otak businessman. Ordinary drinking water become super water. Macam cibaii. Ambil profit kaw kaw. Agent all follow. I have prove my iq still much higher than a friend who drinking kagen water everyday.
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post Oct 6 2019, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(Pop The Bubbles @ Oct 6 2019, 04:20 PM)
The new thing my mum get introduced from her friend is water resonator. Not sure what it is.
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So has your mum already purchased it ?
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post Oct 6 2019, 04:26 PM

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they want your money but they cant even give the product a decent name
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post Oct 6 2019, 04:30 PM

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Ask for water samples and money to check the water content by labs but take the money to enjoy instead.
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post Oct 6 2019, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Oct 6 2019, 04:23 PM)
Because everyone loves money.
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Scam other people's hard-earned money in selling overpriced water purifier?

I will hold my judgement until the yumcha session
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post Oct 6 2019, 04:33 PM

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Niahai... Riway belum habis already revive Kangen water again.
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post Oct 6 2019, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(hellkvr @ Oct 6 2019, 04:23 PM)
Hahahha. Biasalah otak businessman. Ordinary drinking water become super water. Macam cibaii. Ambil profit kaw kaw. Agent all follow. I have prove my iq still much higher than a friend who drinking kagen water everyday.
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QUOTE(SomaCruz89 @ Oct 6 2019, 04:30 PM)
Scam other people's hard-earned money in selling overpriced water purifier?

I will hold my judgement until the yumcha session
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Whatever it takes to get rich fast.

Look at my relative, keep promoting MLM products to all our relatives and whole kampung.

Finally succeeded. They are living a very good life now.
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QUOTE(SomaCruz89 @ Oct 6 2019, 04:19 PM)
He asked me out next week to explain and demo about Kangen Water.

When I asked how much is the Kangen Water purifier, he didn't answer but he is using it and will explain the benefit of drinking Kangen Water e.g can heal illness and highly recommended by doctor (typical sales pitch)

Out of curiosity, I google it and found out Kangen Water is also MLM type

https://www.lazymanandmoney.com/kangen-water-scam/

Haiz why so many youngsters and elders like to work in MLM?
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Panasonic alkaline water machine about rm3k only
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post Oct 6 2019, 04:40 PM

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Scam water. The theory is alkalanized water is better to fight cancer etc

But u know what? What ever u drink your body will neutralize it back (acid base balance)

So the claims is pure bullshit
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post Oct 6 2019, 04:40 PM

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Lol Kangen is still alive? laugh.gif
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post Oct 6 2019, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(SomaCruz89 @ Oct 6 2019, 04:19 PM)
He asked me out next week to explain and demo about Kangen Water.

When I asked how much is the Kangen Water purifier, he didn't answer but he is using it and will explain the benefit of drinking Kangen Water e.g can heal illness and highly recommended by doctor (typical sales pitch)

Out of curiosity, I google it and found out Kangen Water is also MLM type

https://www.lazymanandmoney.com/kangen-water-scam/

Haiz why so many youngsters and elders like to work in MLM?
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Yes, if you enter / join / buy, it’s jackpot for your friend. Friend eat friend pocket.

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post Oct 6 2019, 04:41 PM

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oni uneducated simpleton w/o critical thinking will fall 4 dis kinda thing
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post Oct 6 2019, 04:43 PM

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after u buy 12k not good also say good la wei
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post Oct 6 2019, 04:49 PM

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another marketing gimmick. If you have money to burn, buy lah.

as for ayam, won't buy shit like that.
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post Oct 6 2019, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(SomaCruz89 @ Oct 6 2019, 04:19 PM)
He asked me out next week to explain and demo about Kangen Water.

When I asked how much is the Kangen Water purifier, he didn't answer but he is using it and will explain the benefit of drinking Kangen Water e.g can heal illness and highly recommended by doctor (typical sales pitch)

Out of curiosity, I google it and found out Kangen Water is also MLM type

https://www.lazymanandmoney.com/kangen-water-scam/

Haiz why so many youngsters and elders like to work in MLM?
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a fren got cancer.
her aunty intro kangen.
rm14 k.
if u so want alkaline water, get panasonic. much cheaper. longer history.
moral of story : MLM
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post Oct 6 2019, 04:53 PM

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What your friend says:
Hey bro, come with me and I'll show you the benefits of this Kangen Water. Very worth it one.

What you friend actually thinks:
Hey bro, come with me and pay 10k+ for this dubious water machine so I can earn my commission. Pick the most expensive unit pls
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post Oct 6 2019, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Oct 6 2019, 04:33 PM)
Niahai... Riway belum habis already revive Kangen water again.
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Riway and Shop.com already settled. They won't pursue me anymore.

This one is new.

Haiz...why so many MLM-er nowadays?

Even insurance and property have their own share of MLM scheme...
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post Oct 6 2019, 05:06 PM

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Hate this type of scams that prey on cancer victims & potentially harm people's health.
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post Oct 6 2019, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Oct 6 2019, 04:53 PM)
What your friend says:
Hey bro, come with me and I'll show you the benefits of this Kangen Water. Very worth it one.

What you friend actually thinks:
Hey bro, come with me and pay 10k+ for this dubious water machine so I can earn my commission. Pick the most expensive unit pls
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No wonder he never answered me back when I asked him is the price range from 3k-4k.

He only said the typical sell pitch "if something can give you good health, will you buy it"?

He's also my gym buddy, I could not believe this statement came from his mouth. If you want to stay healthy, it has to be obtained by a healthy diet, regular exercise and enough of sleep.

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post Oct 6 2019, 05:14 PM

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post Oct 6 2019, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(SomaCruz89 @ Oct 6 2019, 05:03 PM)
Riway and Shop.com already settled. They won't pursue me anymore.

This one is new.

Haiz...why so many MLM-er nowadays?

Even insurance and property have their own share of MLM scheme...
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Many man. CASH OIL another one. My auntie kena brainwashed by all this. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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post Oct 6 2019, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Oct 6 2019, 05:14 PM)
Many man. CASH OIL another one. My auntie kena brainwashed by all this.  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Normally youngsters from age group 18-28 to aunties/uncles in their forties/fifties/sixties got brainwashed by MLM... sweat.gif

Do we have anti-MLM group? Where to sign up?
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Panasonic alkaline water machine used for > 5 years only below 2k can get alr. 12k scam KEK
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QUOTE(sheldonyong @ Oct 6 2019, 05:23 PM)
Panasonic alkaline water machine used for > 5 years only below 2k can get alr. 12k scam KEK
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Comes with boiler or not?
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post Oct 6 2019, 05:34 PM

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just tell your friend,poorfag not afford...
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My home got 3M, Coway, Amway, Kangen icon_idea.gif

So i dono which is good.
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U drink also ur body will neutralize back lah, your mlm fren sohai cheat ppl
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post Oct 6 2019, 05:46 PM

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when gonna sell air filter pulak
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post Oct 6 2019, 05:47 PM

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dont waste your money
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My fren bought rm 14k
Coz someone say can help him with cancer

Rip friend 1 year already
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That day ur landlord? Now ur friend? Hahaa! 🤗
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Kangen and sohai berpisah tiada
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post Oct 6 2019, 05:51 PM

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I thought Kangkang water.
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kianggan(means kena fuck in hokkien)

u beli kangen water means u kena fuck,


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post Oct 6 2019, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(MrChubbyChocobo @ Oct 6 2019, 05:50 PM)
That day ur landlord? Now ur friend?  Hahaa! 🤗
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Shop.com - Colleague
Riway - landlord
Kangen water - friend
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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Oct 6 2019, 04:22 PM)
kangen water 6k.

better spend all that money buy bacfree. can buy over 30 filters. that itself will last you almost 30 years.
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Lol.....that's exactly what happened to my filter too, ended up switching to bac free after using alkaline water.
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QUOTE(teamjoker @ Oct 6 2019, 06:08 PM)
BE International Kodenshi - ktards
Boss kitzai come and recruit
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kitzai said his business not mlm....
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Lai lai who wants to earn 1 million within 2year?
Done that I will show you how

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kitzai said his business not mlm....
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Since when ?
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post Oct 6 2019, 06:19 PM

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Trust me, it is a miracle water!

One of my friend is using one 2 years ago, until today he never need to go to petrol station to pump petrol beacuse he just use own urine after drinking that water.

Excellent investment for life!
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QUOTE(afie98120 @ Oct 6 2019, 05:48 PM)
My fren bought rm 14k
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your friend pass away d? even after drink kangen?
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QUOTE(crazee @ Oct 6 2019, 04:40 PM)
Scam water. The theory is alkalanized water is better to fight cancer etc

But u know what? What ever u drink your body will neutralize it back (acid base balance)

So the claims is pure bullshit
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Yeah... I thought this thing has been banned or something, in malaysia
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QUOTE(SomaCruz89 @ Oct 6 2019, 04:19 PM)
He asked me out next week to explain and demo about Kangen Water.

When I asked how much is the Kangen Water purifier, he didn't answer but he is using it and will explain the benefit of drinking Kangen Water e.g can heal illness and highly recommended by doctor (typical sales pitch)

Out of curiosity, I google it and found out Kangen Water is also MLM type

https://www.lazymanandmoney.com/kangen-water-scam/

Haiz why so many youngsters and elders like to work in MLM?
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Kangen water is "turning" your normal PH 7 water to PH 9+ (i.e: alkaline level). Since your stomach is mostly acidic (< PH 7), it is supposed to "neutralized" the acids and make you feel better.

This is like placebo. It doesnt have any real benefits.
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In Nigeria, they claim that it can cure everything including cancel, and it also can make death people alive. That's why it is selling like hot cake in Nigeria.
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Sure lah. Even some friends borrow money from Ah Long to buy. Must be life saver.
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you drink alkaline water, your stomach will compensate by over-produce acids , later gastric lol.gif
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post Oct 6 2019, 06:48 PM

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Just buy Panasonic. Rm3k. Trusted brand.
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post Oct 6 2019, 06:49 PM

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FYI, I just bought the version 2.0 one even better.

You know what? I shit gold after drinking the version 2.0 water.

I am a very happy buyer. 12k is nothing.

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QUOTE(SomaCruz89 @ Oct 6 2019, 04:19 PM)
Haiz why so many youngsters and elders like to work in MLM?
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because they think they can live a long life as if they have a world to conquer. in fact, they got nothing to conquer other than their own backyard (or nothing if live in apartment)
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Oct 6 2019, 06:30 PM)
Kangen water is "turning" your normal PH 7 water to PH 9+ (i.e: alkaline level). Since your stomach is mostly acidic (< PH 7), it is supposed to "neutralized" the acids and make you feel better.

This is like placebo. It doesnt have any real benefits.
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Yeah brilliant, once your stomach loss acidity, you have digestive problem.
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Cuckoo ade. Coway ade. Why kangen thoooo
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QUOTE(Saitama @ Oct 6 2019, 04:21 PM)
1 unit rm12k

I wouldn't say it's a scam. More like gray area health product.

It basically filters n alkalies your drinking water. Alkaline water is apparently better for your body cos everything we consume is mostly acidic.

But is it worth that money? I dunno.
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No alkaline water does nth to you body at all if u understand physiology.
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QUOTE(gaman @ Oct 6 2019, 06:19 PM)
Trust me, it is a miracle water!

One of my friend is using one 2 years ago, until today he never need to go to petrol station to pump petrol beacuse he just use own urine after drinking that water.

Excellent investment for life!
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My fren after he used he got 2.6b donation , till now nobody trusts him damn
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U eat how much, wear how much, god has already decided.. Better spend the money somewhere else
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Why old scam resurface... https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/201...n-water/1158141
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QUOTE(teamjoker @ Oct 6 2019, 06:37 PM)
Really? Then billionaires in k must buy la. Health is the greatest wealth. Let me tag the top 3 billionaire in k.
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Your villa is on mountain top
More nicer than coffee villa.
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Its just water bro

I can also claim if you don't drink water you'll be dead because its true
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Your villa is on mountain top
More nicer than coffee villa.
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it is a low cost house,next to old horse stable

nothing compared to coffee mansion
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QUOTE(Emily Yee @ Oct 6 2019, 09:07 PM)
Wow I can show him this link
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they only target desperate housewife only... if they manage to get TS to buy, then don't know what to say.
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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Oct 6 2019, 04:37 PM)
Whatever it takes to get rich fast.

Look at my relative, keep promoting MLM products to all our relatives and whole kampung.

Finally succeeded. They are living a very good life now.
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Oct 6 2019, 04:37 PM)
Panasonic alkaline water machine about rm3k only
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QUOTE(crazee @ Oct 6 2019, 04:40 PM)
Scam water. The theory is alkalanized water is better to fight cancer etc

But u know what? What ever u drink your body will neutralize it back (acid base balance)

So the claims is pure bullshit
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QUOTE(Guenhwyvar @ Oct 6 2019, 04:40 PM)
Lol Kangen is still alive?  laugh.gif
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More and more ppl join because our economy really not good.
Many got retrenched or layoffs. Some accept vss.
Even big earners like insurance and property also feeling the pinch.

Mlm potential is huge, especially Asia-pac. It's the future of commerce.
More and more university offering courses in network marketing.

So if u join the train early, u will be having great success.
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QUOTE(kitzai @ Oct 10 2019, 01:35 PM)
More and more ppl join because our economy really not good.
Many got retrenched or layoffs. Some accept vss.
Even big earners like insurance and property also feeling the pinch.

Mlm potential is huge, especially Asia-pac. It's the future of commerce.
More and more university offering courses in network marketing.

So if u join the train early, u will be having great success.
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but your conscience of selling snake oil product. can you live with it? if yes, then go ahead.
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but your conscience of selling snake oil product. can you live with it? if yes, then go ahead.
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Since when I sell oil????
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Depends on which company and product brah.

For me, I can sleep well at night because the things I sold helps many people. Sometimes when interview them, tears also rolling.
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Oh lol.

Depends on which company and product brah.

For me, I can sleep well at night because the things I sold helps many people. Sometimes when interview them, tears also rolling.
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He asked me out next week to explain and demo about Kangen Water.

When I asked how much is the Kangen Water purifier, he didn't answer but he is using it and will explain the benefit of drinking Kangen Water e.g can heal illness and highly recommended by doctor (typical sales pitch)

Out of curiosity, I google it and found out Kangen Water is also MLM type

https://www.lazymanandmoney.com/kangen-water-scam/

Haiz why so many youngsters and elders like to work in MLM?

Update:

So, we met up and he explained Kangen water is actually ionized hydrogen alkaline water from PH 9-11. I told him drinking alkaline water is useless as our body PH balance will neutralise back to 7/7.x.

He agreed but he explained further that our body used the minerals stored in our cell and bone to balance up the acidic food we eat everyday. Because of this, old folks usually have joint problems due to mineral insufficiency.

He added drinking Kangen water can ease our body from using up the mineral inside our body to maintain good health and prevent illnesses.

Then, he started comparing to other alkaline water purifiers like Panasonic which the ionizer plates need to be replaced every 2-3 years unlike Kangen water purifier the plates can last for 20-25 years and you only need to change the water filter every 6000 litres usage.

He did some demo like pour normal water and Kangen water to see the difference. He highlighted 3 major benefits about Kangen water:

Antioxidant- Protect cells from free radicals that play a role in heart disease, cancer n etc.

Ionized - Restoring body's alkalinity can detoxify it

Microclusters - Much smaller 5-6 molecules clusters for better hydration because it's more readily absorbed by the body.

Lastly, he ended with Kangen water is the best ionized water in the market. Amway is the best in clean water category. Elken is the best in RO water. Different type of water purifier.

I just thanked him and take a bottle of Kangen water back to try it out. It tastes different though. Feel so smooth. Feel like I can bench 2 plates now rolleyes.gif

I think I will survey other water purifier as well. 13k for a water purifier is damn expensive although if you see long term 20 years usage....then it is not that expensive.

Any experts want to challenge this claims from Kangen water salesman?
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cuckoo coway - reverse osmosis water (too clean la, your body need minerals)

kangen - alkaline water (your body will neutralize the ph la)

just get normal bacfree filter la diu
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ok la /k standard 20k minimum mah.
if u can afford, go or it. a good peace of mind.

check it out : - most expensive water.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg3Mr6e1KMo

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only the microcluster water molecules is agreeable; the other claims, stomach acids will neutralise it
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Ask him put all the claim on paper with company letterhead and sign on it.
Then bring to ministry of health
The doctor claim thing also faked and apologized to the world
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Updated.

Please counter his statements
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I got a panasonic alkaline water purifier thingamajig...

I read liao... alkaline water not necessary good for our body... infact u need to start slowly if u terus drink the high level alkalien water u will lausai...

So.... now I use it as a purifier and dont bother with the alkaline function
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QUOTE(SomaCruz89 @ Oct 6 2019, 04:19 PM)
He asked me out next week to explain and demo about Kangen Water.

When I asked how much is the Kangen Water purifier, he didn't answer but he is using it and will explain the benefit of drinking Kangen Water e.g can heal illness and highly recommended by doctor (typical sales pitch)

Out of curiosity, I google it and found out Kangen Water is also MLM type

https://www.lazymanandmoney.com/kangen-water-scam/

Haiz why so many youngsters and elders like to work in MLM?

Update:

So, we met up and he explained Kangen water is actually ionized hydrogen alkaline water from PH 9-11. I told him drinking alkaline water is useless as our body PH balance will neutralise back to 7/7.x.

He agreed but he explained further that our body used the minerals stored in our cell and bone to balance up the acidic food we eat everyday. Because of this, old folks usually have joint problems due to mineral insufficiency.

He added drinking Kangen water can ease our body from using up the mineral inside our body to maintain good health and prevent illnesses.

Then, he started comparing to other alkaline water purifiers like Panasonic which the ionizer plates need to be replaced every 2-3 years unlike Kangen water purifier the plates can last for 20-25 years and you only need to change the water filter every 6000 litres usage.

He did some demo like pour normal water and Kangen water to see the difference. He highlighted 3 major benefits about Kangen water:

Antioxidant- Protect cells from free radicals that play a role in heart disease, cancer n etc.

Ionized - Restoring body's alkalinity can detoxify it

Microclusters - Much smaller 5-6 molecules clusters for better hydration because it's more readily absorbed by the body.

Lastly, he ended with Kangen water is the best ionized water in the market. Amway is the best in clean water category. Elken is the best in RO water. Different type of water purifier.

I just thanked him and take a bottle of Kangen water back to try it out. It tastes different though. Feel so smooth. Feel like I can bench 2 plates now rolleyes.gif

I think I will survey other water purifier as well. 13k for a water purifier is damn expensive although if you see long term 20 years usage....then it is not that expensive.

Any experts want to challenge this claims from Kangen water salesman?
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Ask your fren to cut his hand with a knife. Then pour the magical Kangen water on it, if it heals immediately, then you quickly sign up for it. If it doesn't heal immediately, then he is BS you.

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Got plate meh? Got filter that normal use need change after the machine tell you to change, roughly yearly.
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The rules of thumb, if the products is sell thru. MLM you have to be careful already. Nothing good can come from there.
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beli bath water from belle delphine lagi sihat.

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MLM salesman spotted.

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Got plate meh? Got filter that normal use need change after the machine tell you to change, roughly yearly.
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He mentioned got plates made of platinum. From 3 plates (low-end model) to 8 plates (high-end model)
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To be honest, I don't care to even counter especially if he/she is a seller. It is those idiots who are laughable.  smile.gif
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But as a friend, I would like to counter his statements with logical explanations if what he said were not all true.
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QUOTE(SomaCruz89 @ Oct 10 2019, 11:40 PM)
But as a friend, I would like to counter his statements with logical explanations if what he said were not all true.
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Well, will a seller say that his/her products are not good? Therefore, there's no point countering/arguing about it.
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He mentioned got plates made of platinum. From 3 plates (low-end model) to 8 plates (high-end model)
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Non servicable parts?
The filter life is 6000L, your friend taktau what he is selling.
You can just buka lazada see the filter price and details.
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QUOTE(SomaCruz89 @ Oct 10 2019, 11:35 PM)
MLM salesman spotted.
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was mlm victim.

i wrote that to question the existance of this thread...keep update summore. lol
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QUOTE(SomaCruz89 @ Oct 6 2019, 04:19 PM)
asked me out next week to explain and demo about Kangen Water.


Update:



Antioxidant- Protect cells from free radicals that play a role in heart disease, cancer n etc.

Ionized - Restoring body's alkalinity can detoxify it

Microclusters - Much smaller 5-6 molecules clusters for better hydration because it's more readily absorbed by the body.

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This is what we call pseudoscience

The real one here is MLM 😄

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Whoever believes in this Kangen bullshit is stupid and probably deserved to be scammed RM13K of their money.
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Miracle water can cure cancer? Wah
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For that price I rather get commercial distiller. You ever tried pure distilled water before? Taste > all.
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Oct 6 2019, 05:35 PM)
My home got 3M, Coway, Amway, Kangen  icon_idea.gif

So i dono which is good.
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QUOTE(kitzai @ Oct 10 2019, 01:35 PM)
More and more ppl join because our economy really not good.
Many got retrenched or layoffs. Some accept vss.
Even big earners like insurance and property also feeling the pinch.

Mlm potential is huge, especially Asia-pac. It's the future of commerce.
More and more university offering courses in network marketing.

So if u join the train early, u will be having great success.
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Mlm salesman spotted.
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Between kangen 10k plus and Panasonic 3k plus

I have both it in different house

I can tell u kangen is just over price shit

Panasonic doing the same job
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Topkek. Macam2 bullshyts can come out from mlm. If can cure cancer whole world should hav know edy.
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Someone please tell me why we need to drink alkaline water when our stomach has to be acidic to digest food? rclxub.gif
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heard this kangen water can instantly mix those 3 in 1 coffee without hot water. true?
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Someone please tell me why we need to drink alkaline water when our stomach has to be acidic to digest food?  rclxub.gif
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what about drinking lemon water? same effect?
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what about drinking lemon water? same effect?
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Since lemon water is acidic, drinking it makes you feel hungry faster biggrin.gif
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Since lemon water is acidic, drinking it makes you feel hungry faster  biggrin.gif
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alkaline o they said. if u put lemon slide in ur drinking water
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alkaline o they said. if u put lemon slide in ur drinking water
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That is what most people believe. Once digested and metabolized, lemon juice produces alkaline byproducts, which make the urine more alkaline. This is why it is thought of as alkalizing, despite its acidic pH before it is digested.
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Pry open any used alkaline battery, mix with your drinking water. FOC.
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The Alkaline Diet categorizes foods into one of three groups:
1) Acidifying foods: Meat, poultry, fish, dairy, eggs and alcohol
2) Neutral foods: Natural fats, starches and sugars
3) Alkalizing foods: Fruits, nuts, legumes and vegetables
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Selling hydrogen infused water. biggrin.gif
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Alkaline water is highly unlikely to do all that shit he claims

You just feel a little bit better than drinking normal water thats all

And of course the filtration makes a difference, like with any kind if filtered water

If you drink rehydration liquids, which are truly isotonic, you would feel even better since that is the perfect PH balance for your body

Which you can make yourself with water sugar and salt

And best of all, is recommended by true medical personnel

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QUOTE(ihavenoidea @ Oct 11 2019, 06:13 AM)
Non servicable parts?
The filter life is 6000L, your friend taktau what he is selling.
You can just buka lazada see the filter price and details.
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Filter need to service every 6000L but the ionizer plates can last for 20 years I heard
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Topkek. Macam2 bullshyts can come out from mlm. If can cure cancer whole world should hav know edy.
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I did challenge him this part. Guess what he said? He said hospital must use medical treatment approach to treat cancer to earn more even though Kangen water can help. Topkek
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heard this kangen water can instantly mix those 3 in 1 coffee without hot water. true?
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Yes he demonstrated to me by dipping a teabag into a glass of kangen water and it mixed instantly due to low microclusters molecules
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I did challenge him this part. Guess what he said? He said hospital must use medical treatment approach to treat cancer to earn more even though Kangen water can help. Topkek
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Ask him to get approval from KKM with all the facts that he has. Once KKM approved definitely will sell like hotcakes. Xyah cakap banyak.
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I did challenge him this part. Guess what he said? He said hospital must use medical treatment approach to treat cancer to earn more even though Kangen water can help. Topkek
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Please give his name and ic number, I will report him to the ministry of health.
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Kangen water is mlm meh? Did he tried to recruit TS?

Whats their actual company name?
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Kangen water is mlm meh? Did he tried to recruit TS?

Whats their actual company name?
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He just wanted to share this health talk to me and hoping me will make the right decision to buy Kangen water
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Lol based on his statements, so now we have a cure for cancer which is drinking Kangen water but hospital hide it for the sake of business profit from those expensive medical treatment?
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Lol based on his statements, so now we have a cure for cancer which is drinking Kangen water but hospital hide it for the sake of business profit from those expensive medical treatment?
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Not sure about kangen water but most hospitals here their chemo med is actually older generation.
E.g sg and Taiwan they already using 3rd generation of med, that's why so many ppl go there for treatment and their success rate so high.

Meanwhile malaysia, use cheapest med to high charges for maximum profit.
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My office bought one at RM12k IINM, tbh it is useless punya.
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13k you can drink Eau Claire for duno how long wei. Buy a PH tester and check your water. probably alkaline already
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My office bought one at RM12k IINM, tbh it is useless punya.
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Of course useless la you only drink when you are in office. You must drink everyday to see the benefits of the miracle water called Kangen water rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(SomaCruz89 @ Oct 6 2019, 04:19 PM)
He asked me out next week to explain and demo about Kangen Water.

When I asked how much is the Kangen Water purifier, he didn't answer but he is using it and will explain the benefit of drinking Kangen Water e.g can heal illness and highly recommended by doctor (typical sales pitch)

Out of curiosity, I google it and found out Kangen Water is also MLM type

https://www.lazymanandmoney.com/kangen-water-scam/

Haiz why so many youngsters and elders like to work in MLM?

Update:

So, we met up and he explained Kangen water is actually ionized hydrogen alkaline water from PH 9-11. I told him drinking alkaline water is useless as our body PH balance will neutralise back to 7/7.x.

He agreed but he explained further that our body used the minerals stored in our cell and bone to balance up the acidic food we eat everyday. Because of this, old folks usually have joint problems due to mineral insufficiency.

He added drinking Kangen water can ease our body from using up the mineral inside our body to maintain good health and prevent illnesses.

Then, he started comparing to other alkaline water purifiers like Panasonic which the ionizer plates need to be replaced every 2-3 years unlike Kangen water purifier the plates can last for 20-25 years and you only need to change the water filter every 6000 litres usage.

He did some demo like pour normal water and Kangen water to see the difference. He highlighted 3 major benefits about Kangen water:

Antioxidant- Protect cells from free radicals that play a role in heart disease, cancer n etc.

Ionized - Restoring body's alkalinity can detoxify it

Microclusters - Much smaller 5-6 molecules clusters for better hydration because it's more readily absorbed by the body.

Lastly, he ended with Kangen water is the best ionized water in the market. Amway is the best in clean water category. Elken is the best in RO water. Different type of water purifier.

I just thanked him and take a bottle of Kangen water back to try it out. It tastes different though. Feel so smooth. Feel like I can bench 2 plates now rolleyes.gif

I think I will survey other water purifier as well. 13k for a water purifier is damn expensive although if you see long term 20 years usage....then it is not that expensive.

Any experts want to challenge this claims from Kangen water salesman?
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13k can buy a lifetime of bacfree filters. Every year change the filter once also can last you until you're 100 y.o.

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post Oct 11 2019, 09:34 AM

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I got a block of U-238,
can I sell to you my brand new radiated water filter?
benefits are:
-instant radiation of water at no electricity cost
-block has a half life 4.5 billion years
-if u survive past 1 generation, you will get a random superpower,

I will also throw in a free air-tight porcelain jar for your cremation
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post Oct 11 2019, 09:35 AM

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Mlm model means the product is super overpriced coz need to feed all the downliners (unless it’s a Ponzi scheme).
I bet u can get China to copy it and make it for 1/5 of the price.
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post Oct 11 2019, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(SomaCruz89 @ Oct 11 2019, 09:14 AM)
Lol based on his statements, so now we have a cure for cancer which is drinking Kangen water but hospital hide it for the sake of business profit from those expensive medical treatment?
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He just another bastard scammer preying on the ill and weak!
Hope karma dun come and bite him!

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post Oct 11 2019, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Oct 11 2019, 09:53 AM)
He just another bastard scammer preying on the ill and weak!
Hope karma dun come and bite him!
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But he looks like a saint, simple-minded, innocent, friendly and generous guy. This is the starter kits for a MLM wannabe?
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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Oct 6 2019, 04:22 PM)
kangen water 6k.

better spend all that money buy bacfree. can buy over 30 filters. that itself will last you almost 30 years.
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6k that's cheap.. Thought It was in above 10k category
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QUOTE(SomaCruz89 @ Oct 11 2019, 08:58 AM)
Filter need to service every 6000L but the ionizer plates can last for 20 years I heard
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the filter like 250ish for the lower end model, if you consider it as yearly maintenance part.. not that berbaloi after factoring the initial cost.
and i doubt there will still sell the filter after 20 years when the plate rosak.
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QUOTE(SomaCruz89 @ Oct 11 2019, 10:04 AM)
But he looks like a saint, simple-minded, innocent, friendly and generous guy. This is the starter kits for a MLM wannabe?
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TS=fren?
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post Oct 11 2019, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(SomaCruz89 @ Oct 6 2019, 04:19 PM)

So, we met up and he explained Kangen water is actually ionized hydrogen alkaline water from PH 9-11. I told him drinking alkaline water is useless as our body PH balance will neutralise back to 7/7.x.

He agreed but he explained further that our body used the minerals stored in our cell and bone to balance up the acidic food we eat everyday. Because of this, old folks usually have joint problems due to mineral insufficiency.

He added drinking Kangen water can ease our body from using up the mineral inside our body to maintain good health and prevent illnesses.

Then, he started comparing to other alkaline water purifiers like Panasonic which the ionizer plates need to be replaced every 2-3 years unlike Kangen water purifier the plates can last for 20-25 years and you only need to change the water filter every 6000 litres usage.

He did some demo like pour normal water and Kangen water to see the difference. He highlighted 3 major benefits about Kangen water:

Antioxidant- Protect cells from free radicals that play a role in heart disease, cancer n etc.

Ionized - Restoring body's alkalinity can detoxify it

Microclusters - Much smaller 5-6 molecules clusters for better hydration because it's more readily absorbed by the body.


Lastly, he ended with Kangen water is the best ionized water in the market. Amway is the best in clean water category. Elken is the best in RO water. Different type of water purifier.

I just thanked him and take a bottle of Kangen water back to try it out. It tastes different though. Feel so smooth. Feel like I can bench 2 plates now rolleyes.gif

I think I will survey other water purifier as well. 13k for a water purifier is damn expensive although if you see long term 20 years usage....then it is not that expensive.

Any experts want to challenge this claims from Kangen water salesman?
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psuedoscience for the dummy

amway elken kanegn or any mlm water purifier can beat my Millipore Type I ulta pure water purifier
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Oct 11 2019, 10:54 AM)
TS=fren?
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I anti MLM one

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post Oct 11 2019, 12:08 PM

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Those MLM scammers already knew that they cannot use "alkaline water" as a "bait/benefit" to scam people anymore so they come out with others "baits/benefits" like micro-cluster etc., to sell their "expensive" scamming products.

Why the water taste smooth? Just google than you know why.

If you still concern about water quality of your water supply, just buy a proper reasonably priced water filter, no need those "expensive" water filters with "fancy names & functions".

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