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tpleong
post Oct 18 2019, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(kindjudgement @ Oct 17 2019, 10:09 PM)
Thanks for your time, however I didn't get "Ensure it is recognized by our Malaysian government." what are you referring me to check?
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Check with the Malaysia Medical Council whether the degree is recognised .

Also , you must also have BIO & BM at SPM level, if you want to do houseman in Malaysia .

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post Oct 19 2019, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(kindjudgement @ Oct 17 2019, 10:09 PM)
Thanks for your time, however I didn't get "Ensure it is recognized by our Malaysian government." what are you referring me to check?
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Malaysia Medical Council approved Universities, if you plan to stay in Malaysia to work.
Else, if you plan on leaving the country like Singapore / US / UK.
See their Medical Council approved lists of universities

Malaysia:
http://mmc.moh.gov.my/images/contents/accr...04_-_latest.pdf


Singapore:
http://www.doctors.com.sg/medicalschools.html

These lists updates from time to time, it is better to try to find one with the least chances of being chopped off by the Country's Medical Council.

Again doing A-Levels to joining back Public University Might be a risky move, but it might be worth wild for RM 20k to 50k for A Levels.
Just don't screw up too much from your A/A*s

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post Oct 19 2019, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(iSean @ Oct 19 2019, 02:56 AM)
Malaysia Medical Council approved Universities, if you plan to stay in Malaysia to work.
Else, if you plan on leaving the country like Singapore / US / UK.
See their Medical Council approved lists of universities 

Malaysia:
http://mmc.moh.gov.my/images/contents/accr...04_-_latest.pdf
Singapore:
http://www.doctors.com.sg/medicalschools.html

These lists updates from time to time, it is better to try to find one with the least chances of being chopped off by the Country's Medical Council.

Again doing A-Levels to joining back Public University Might be a risky move, but it might be worth wild for RM 20k to 50k for A Levels.
Just don't screw up too much from your A/A*s
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The following link gives you the latest SMC recognised universities update. You will note some of the medical schools listed in the above link are no longer in the latest update.

https://www.healthprofessionals.gov.sg/smc/...dical-graduates
Zhik
post Oct 19 2019, 09:50 PM

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it is a sunset industry. go find other job with better opportunity.
unless, u are too enthusiastic to study and work like no tomorrow.
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post Oct 19 2019, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(wingy @ Oct 19 2019, 02:48 PM)
The following link gives you the latest SMC recognised universities update. You will note some of the medical schools listed in the above link are no longer in the latest update.

https://www.healthprofessionals.gov.sg/smc/...dical-graduates
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Graduates of the medical schools listed in the following link are no longer eligible to practice medicine in Singapore effective January 2020

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singap...ice-in-11459004
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post Oct 24 2019, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(iSean @ Oct 19 2019, 09:56 AM)
Malaysia Medical Council approved Universities, if you plan to stay in Malaysia to work.
Else, if you plan on leaving the country like Singapore / US / UK.
See their Medical Council approved lists of universities 

Malaysia:
http://mmc.moh.gov.my/images/contents/accr...04_-_latest.pdf
Singapore:
http://www.doctors.com.sg/medicalschools.html

These lists updates from time to time, it is better to try to find one with the least chances of being chopped off by the Country's Medical Council.

Again doing A-Levels to joining back Public University Might be a risky move, but it might be worth wild for RM 20k to 50k for A Levels.
Just don't screw up too much from your A/A*s
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Hello, not a very related question but I'm kinda having trouble looking for a college now lol. Right now medicine isn't my only interest but I'm also interested in data science. So I'm planning to take Biology, Chemistry, Maths and Further Maths to keep my options open for both these courses. I'll most probably drop either Bio or F. Maths once I make up my mind. I originally wanted to go to MCKL because it's affordable and I may be able to get 75% scholarship there. It's also not too far from home (I'm a Kuen Cheng student). But unfortunately, MCKL doesn't have the subject combination I want. Unless I make up my mind to study medicine or data science now, MCKL is out of my options. Additionally, I've seen your many reviews on this sub about MCKL and I can see it's quite frustrating. But seriously though, how bad is it? What is the quality of lecturers? How tough and evil are their exams? Do they really use Singapore papers to fail scholarship holders on purpose? Do they test on content not taught in the classroom? Why are there still so many top students coming out from MCKL despite these claims?

I'm currently considering Sunway College. I have no intention of going to Taylor's cause I've been told there is a lot of rich students not interested in studying and only get by on their parents' wealth. Also, the budget is a very huge factor for me. Taylor's is WAYYY too expensive. Sunway isn't any better in terms of costs but at least the people there are not as ratchet, perhaps? And also, I'm planning to join January intake and Sunway scholarships can only be applied for with actual SPM results, so there's that little risk. Accommodation fees is also something to consider.

What are your thoughts on this and do you have any advice?
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post Oct 24 2019, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(myshinyannulus @ Oct 24 2019, 04:01 PM)
Hello, not a very related question but I'm kinda having trouble looking for a college now lol. Right now medicine isn't my only interest but I'm also interested in data science. So I'm planning to take Biology, Chemistry, Maths and Further Maths to keep my options open for both these courses. I'll most probably drop either Bio or F. Maths once I make up my mind. I originally wanted to go to MCKL because it's affordable and I may be able to get 75% scholarship there. It's also not too far from home (I'm a Kuen Cheng student). But unfortunately, MCKL doesn't have the subject combination I want. Unless I make up my mind to study medicine or data science now, MCKL is out of my options. Additionally, I've seen your many reviews on this sub about MCKL and I can see it's quite frustrating. But seriously though, how bad is it? What is the quality of lecturers? How tough and evil are their exams? Do they really use Singapore papers to fail scholarship holders on purpose? Do they test on content not taught in the classroom? Why are there still so many top students coming out from MCKL despite these claims?

I'm currently considering Sunway College. I have no intention of going to Taylor's cause I've been told there is a lot of rich students not interested in studying and only get by on their parents' wealth. Also, the budget is a very huge factor for me. Taylor's is WAYYY too expensive. Sunway isn't any better in terms of costs but at least the people there are not as ratchet, perhaps? And also, I'm planning to join January intake and Sunway scholarships can only be applied for with actual SPM results, so there's that little risk. Accommodation fees is also something to consider.

What are your thoughts on this and do you have any advice?
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MCKL can't offer such classes because they separate students based on which Streams.
A - Arts
D - Double Maths and Econs
M - Mixed between Arts and Science
S - Science

Computer Science is C stream for what I heard hmm.gif ?

Anyhow, for Further Mathematics, it would be fun this year around laugh.gif
As Further Mathematics from 2020 onwards will be having an AS paper.
https://www.cambridgeinternational.org/Imag...22-syllabus.pdf

Last time Further Maths, it is only taken in your A2 with Further Maths 1 & 2. in 3 hours paper.

Personally my time in MCKL it was a mess for my class la in the 2015-16 era, especially with competent lecturer issue... laugh.gif
Not sure they fixed up the internal problems within the campus already.
Also the Ex-CEO just stepped down recently. Hopefully will bring in some new change.
But then most of the time you meet your lecturers, not the CEO, so I don't think that would drastically change la.

I wouldn't recommend studying in MCKL because of the lack of study area. Especially during exam period. It is a nightmare finding an air conditioned room to study.
Somemore it is a hot and humid sweaty place in you study in the open cafeteria.
Running multiple Pre-U / Diploma programs in MCKL is really a nightmare I would tell you that laugh.gif

Maintaining a Scholarship in MCKL is a total nightmare, if you are those with moderates SPM As during my era, alot of my friends dropped it eventually.
I find their tested Syllabus a bit illogical and out of Cambridge Syllabus, and dropped my 15% merit scholarship completely after 1 semester. sweat.gif

I spent about RM 30k in MCKL back in 2015-16 doing M Stream (Pure Science + Math), not sure how inflated their pricing is now.
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Anyhow please just close one eye, and just join Sunway College laugh.gif
Lecture groups and Classrooms and timetable there are much better there.
Lecture Materials Quality I'm not sure what happened lah, seems like after 2016 JPA Scholarship stopped, government stop sending students doing A-Levels already.
So I'm not so sure how dedicated they hard core provide study materials now. laugh.gif

But I'm assured their lecturers would give alot of hand outs to do unlike my lecturers during A-Levels doh.gif


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post Oct 25 2019, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(iSean @ Oct 24 2019, 07:46 PM)
MCKL can't offer such classes because they separate students based on which Streams.
A - Arts
D - Double Maths and Econs
M - Mixed between Arts and Science
S - Science

Computer Science is C stream for what I heard  hmm.gif ?

Anyhow, for Further Mathematics, it would be fun this year around laugh.gif
As Further Mathematics from 2020 onwards will be having an AS paper.
https://www.cambridgeinternational.org/Imag...22-syllabus.pdf

Last time Further Maths, it is only taken in your A2 with Further Maths 1 & 2. in 3 hours paper.

Personally my time in MCKL it was a mess for my class la in the 2015-16 era, especially with competent lecturer issue... laugh.gif
Not sure they fixed up the internal problems within the campus already.
Also the Ex-CEO just stepped down recently. Hopefully will bring in some new change.
But then most of the time you meet your lecturers, not the CEO, so I don't think that would drastically change la.

I wouldn't recommend studying in MCKL because of the lack of study area. Especially during exam period. It is a nightmare finding an air conditioned room to study.
Somemore it is a hot and humid sweaty place in you study in the open cafeteria.
Running multiple Pre-U / Diploma programs in MCKL is really a nightmare I would tell you that  laugh.gif

Maintaining a Scholarship in MCKL is a total nightmare, if you are those with moderates SPM As during my era, alot of my friends dropped it eventually.
I find their tested Syllabus a bit illogical and out of Cambridge Syllabus, and dropped my 15% merit scholarship completely after 1 semester. sweat.gif

I spent about RM 30k in MCKL back in 2015-16 doing M Stream (Pure Science + Math), not sure how inflated their pricing is now.
=============================================================================

Anyhow please just close one eye, and just join Sunway College  laugh.gif 
Lecture groups and Classrooms and timetable there are much better there.
Lecture Materials Quality I'm not sure what happened lah, seems like after 2016 JPA Scholarship stopped, government stop sending students doing A-Levels already.
So I'm not so sure how dedicated they hard core provide study materials now. laugh.gif

But I'm assured their lecturers would give alot of hand outs to do unlike my lecturers during A-Levels  doh.gif
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Do you think Sunway is worth it for its fees for 4 subjects? I'm going for the January intake and there's no going back even if I fail to get a good scholarship. A full scholarship requires 9A+ which I think is definitely impossible while 9A's of any kind is 16,000. Are there any other good scholarships out there?

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post Oct 29 2019, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(myshinyannulus @ Oct 25 2019, 01:13 PM)
Do you think Sunway is worth it for its fees for 4 subjects? I'm going for the January intake and there's no going back even if I fail to get a good scholarship. A full scholarship requires 9A+ which I think is definitely impossible while 9A's of any kind is 16,000. Are there any other good scholarships out there?
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IMHO it doesnt matter where u do your A levels, there are many really good students in Taylors as well. Yes from the outlook they look like some rich spoilt kid with some sports cars or daddykasi big cars or coupe or CX5, but there are also a considerable portion of studious people within.

If you are determined to succeed and focus on your goals, you are bound to no matter where you come from, as long as whatever you do, like other LYN ppl suggest here, u score the AAA+ requirements for the university that u plan to enter.

Do bear in mind it isnt easy to enter Singapore NUS.

And I still want to maintain, if you plan to commit to medicine, be damn well sure you are committed once you graduate, do not waste your 5/6 years of student life only to quit at the end because of job pressure/uncertainties. And yes, the contract based current first batch, some already waited for 1 year, and still cant secure a permanent post.
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QUOTE(myshinyannulus @ Oct 2 2019, 08:22 PM)
I'll be taking A-levels next year. I wish to study medicine. I'll be taking Maths, Bio and Chem but I'm not sure whether to take Physics as a 4th subject. I know almost all unis in the world, including Oxbridge, list only 3 subs in their requirements lists, but for such a competitive course like medicine, is a 4th subject necessary? I'm hoping to secure a place in a foreign university, especially UK and Singapore (does Singapore require 4 subs?) I'm a slightly above average student and I can handle slightly above average workloads, but I don't really enjoy physics (least favourite science sub). Anyone here with some good advice? Thanks!
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nus/ntu generally do not take foreign students for medicine anymore....with a few exceptions under the exceptional individuals scheme....there are already not enough places for spore citizens and residents, there was strong criticism for taking in foreign students....
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Potential medical students and graduates should read Dr Pagalavan's blogs

https://pagalavan.com/

 

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