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post Dec 28 2020, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 27 2020, 11:23 PM)
You need to change your account to margin account. You need to change permissionunder settings> user settings I think.
For fractional shares no go unless you are using pure IB. So either you have USD100k or suck up to IB and pay them USD10/month (unless you can generate USD10/commission as it's hard cause one transaction cost like USD0.35)
Just be patient. Sunway money application takes time. If you can't wait, just go via the more expensive route of instarem/transferwise.
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Ramjade US$0.35? But I'm, seeing its minimum US1.5 from the below website?
https://www.tradestation-international.com/...ng-commissions/
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post Dec 28 2020, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 28 2020, 03:45 AM)
USD0.35 is pure IB price.
The one if you don't have USD100k worth in cash or portfolio value or you cannot generate trading commission of USD10/month you will be charged with USD 10/month fees.
https://www1.interactivebrokers.com/en/inde...=1590&p=stocks2

What you are seeing is what you and I use. Whitelabels of IB (tradestation international). You don't pay the monthly USD10/month fees or need to maintain a portfolio worth min USD100k but you pay higher commision of USD1.50/transaction.

A fair tradeoff.
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post Sep 24 2023, 09:05 PM

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For the Irish domiciled SPY etf, its CSPX and VUAA to get the 15% WHT right? Anyone investing in them and if so which?
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post Sep 26 2023, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 26 2023, 01:23 PM)
Pick either one. For me I pick the one with the lowest fees.
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Ramjade Sorry, but both have expense ratio of 0.07%. So what am I missing here with regards to the ETF that has the lowest fee?
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post Sep 27 2023, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Sep 27 2023, 11:33 AM)
I do have to let you know that IBKR is doing "limited prop trading", which is unlike most other brokers (including TD Ameritrade).

TD Ameritrade (which promises you 0 commission etc.) route your orders to market makers like Citadel, Virtu etc. Citadel/Virtu and others are taking position against you, not TD Ameritrade.

But this is not the case with IBKR. IBKR may match your orders with other IBKR clients (which is still reasonable), or they may simply take positions against you (e.g., you submit buy order, IBKR sell to you...)

So, IBKR is no longer purely a broker, it's a prop trader, and it's trading against you.

Cheap things come at a price. There is no free lunch in the world of finance.

Just for your info.
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QUOTE(TOS @ Sep 27 2023, 05:38 PM)
Competitive as in? Yes, it's cheap, judging by fees. But you cannot just look at pricing alone. Again, no free lunch. It's cheap because they make money from you in another way: the fact that they can trade against you.

You gain on one hand, you lose on the other.
Of course, to answer Ramjade as well, for long-term investors, the fact that they trade against you won't affect your long-term returns if you are a buy-and-hold investors. But prop trading introduces unnecessary risks. IBKR is not just facilitating the game, it's playing it. Your "broker" could have just charged a fixed commission and earn from both buyer/seller in a typical stock/options trade.

But now, because of greed, they venture further. If they make money by fronting your trade, for instance, the broker will survive, but if they take opposite bets against you and the market sentiment turns yet they have positions which they could not unwind in a short period of time, they will fail. (Then of course, you will claim SIPC can step in... ok this moral hazard part... I cannot argue...)

In short, prop trading destabilizes the broker's finances. You make money in a bull market, like everyone does. When tail risk sets in, it's whole another story. (Citadel, Virtu etc., being market makers, are a different beast.)

I am not saying that there are serious problems with IBKR, but as its users, you gotta know what's going on behind the scene.

It's good to have a second brokerage account to standby, just in case. E.g., I have DBS Vickers + FSM SG, both linked to my CDP account in Spore. Those who can't open a CDP account can have open other brokerage accounts to standby.
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Thanks for sharing. Didn't know that about IB
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post Oct 13 2023, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Oct 12 2023, 04:05 PM)
CIMB sg is cheaper so no big deal for us here. unless you've already withdrawn once per month to bank, so have to use Wise for once-a-month free withdrawal

you can still link IBKR to wise right? then can still deposit into IBKR, just the most expensive way. Wise bank account is in case you want to do ACH deposit into IBKR
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Yes, can link IBKR to Wise. Can deposit from Wise to IBKR but unfortunately have to convert into USD using Wise forex rate which is more exp than IBKR rate. So its better to deposit from Singapore bank account to IBKR, then use IBKR forex rate to change to USD

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post Oct 14 2023, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Oct 14 2023, 12:01 PM)
Thanks. Luckily mine is with IB LLC. thumbup.gif
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post Oct 14 2023, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(evangelion @ Oct 14 2023, 06:51 PM)
Bro, can share why its better?
And how did u manage to get LLC version?

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Actually Ramjade says its better. I trust his judgement.
For LLC, I just apply under IBKR and not IBKR Singapore. So maybe that's why got the LLC one.
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post Oct 14 2023, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 14 2023, 07:23 PM)
IBKR SG:

1. Got SG GST 9%
2. No SIPC protection
3. Margin financing rate higher according to Ramjade, for those with margin account

You can just pull a ticket with customer service to change to IBKR LLC version. Not a big deal, they will respond to you and you just follow their steps. I converted from IBKR UK to IBKR LLC in less than 2 weeks, if I remembered correctly.
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TOS Why you change from IBKR UK to IBKR LLC?

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post Oct 14 2023, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 14 2023, 09:51 PM)
Someone asked me the same question before. I answered it here: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=105981925
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post Oct 17 2023, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(melondance @ Oct 17 2023, 08:45 PM)
Correspondent/Intermediary Bank for IBKR (USD):

Maybank: Citibank N.A.
Hong Leong: J.P. Morgan

Hope it helps. I have personally verified both of them.
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Thanks for info

QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 17 2023, 08:53 PM)
Wow how did you verify when phone calls to branches don't work. Can share some tips to get info? smile.gif
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Long time ago, I transferred money from Maybank to a US brokerage account. Called up the bank etc and no one could give me answer. To know the answer, its best to physically go to the branch. There, they finally managed to get the correct correspondent bank, SWIFT code etc. If the branch people don't know, they will know how to ask their people to get the correct answer.

QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 17 2023, 09:17 PM)
Those banks refer to "Maybank/Hong Leong bank" or "JPM/Citi"?

1. If those banks refer to Maybank/HL Bank, unless the staff tells you it's JPM/Citi, otherwise you won't be able to know whether it's JPM/Citi, right? Then you would have ended up like abcn1n's case.

2. If those banks refer to JPM/Citi, (wow HNWI spotted lol), why would the staff bothers to tell you they are correspondent banks to Maybank/HL Bank? Unless you kepo and ask them?
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Haha. Not me. Another person that is having difficulty.

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post Oct 18 2023, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 17 2023, 10:45 PM)
Margin just help you to speed up the settlement date. You don't need to wait for T+2 for settlement and can straight buy and sell. As long as your cash balance is positive, you will never get charged in margin.
I am still on IBKR UK.
I diont think it's USD25. I believe it's USD25. Then intermediate bank take another cut.
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Why you don't change to IBKR LLC or you can't because using whitelabel?
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post Oct 18 2023, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 18 2023, 07:46 AM)
The whitelabel was Tradestation Global (TSG). After IBKR cancelled the 10 USD monthly inactivity fees, many opted to shift to IBKR UK, which is the backend of the whitelabel. Since TSG is based in UK, the backend is automatically IBKR UK.

So, Ramjade and I shifted from TSG to IBKR UK, but I took the extra step of shifting further from IBKR UK to US LLC because of the reasons mentioned in my earlier post.

There is nothing wrong with keeping your assets with IBKR UK.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 18 2023, 09:58 AM)
I did change from whitelabel. Only laszy to move it to ibkr us llc. Maybe one of these days when I am free.
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post Oct 19 2023, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Oct 19 2023, 07:58 AM)
cybermaster98 2nd half of the video. timestamp 7:40 onwards

I only remembered that ziet did this video after melondance mentioned it. At least now I know where to refer ppl to if they ask for this. This will be Plan C. Plan A =Cimb sg->Cimb my, Plan B = wise.

Plan B I suspect I'll rarely use due to expensive wise fees, what more Plan C
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Medufsaid When you transfer from IBKR to CIMB Sg is it you change into SGD in IBKR and transfer SGD to CIMB or you are transferring USD into CIMB Sg?
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post Oct 19 2023, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Oct 19 2023, 03:37 PM)
abcn1n transfer SGD for free to IBKR (like how you bank in to your local stock broker). then, change SGD to USD inside IBKR. you'll be charged U$2 per U$100k, or minimum of U$2. reverse flow, follow the same fee structure. U$2, then FOC IBKR->CIMB sg
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So change to SGD in IBKR b4 transferring out. Thanks
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post Oct 21 2023, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Oct 21 2023, 12:19 AM)
Is wise ACH method still working since they change the US account details?
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QUOTE(melondance @ Oct 21 2023, 10:41 AM)
Yes, just remove saved information in IBKR and relink again. It will only let you use the new US account details.
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QUOTE(hedfi @ Oct 21 2023, 11:57 AM)
Sent some USD to my Wise after checking the details in IBKR to Wise and it matched. Fund were returned cos of wrong details. Need to re-add the Wise account(which is exactly the same when they rejected and returned my $) and it worked. Kena fees cos 2nd time for the mth 🤦
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Hmmm.. guess I too have to do something to Wise (previously linked to IBKR but did not proceed with transfer of $)

QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Oct 21 2023, 12:04 PM)
IBRK took few days to approve my account. so much so that i got desperate and tried to link direct debit to my wise. (direct debit won't work bcos IBRK will take U$x.xx from my wise, and require me to state how much was taken to prove i own the US acct. of which wise will take days to reflect in account)

approval came few days later and i could finally ACH
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Previously I linked Wise to IBKR but then didn't proceed with transfer because had to convert into USD in Wise b4 money could go to IBKR (wanted to convert in IBKR due to better rates).
Sorry not familiar with ACH. Are you saying with ACH, you are still using Wise but can convert USD in IBKR OR you are just using another bank account to transfer to IBKR
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post Oct 21 2023, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Oct 21 2023, 04:37 PM)
you can only convert SGD inside IBRK, not RM. for RM, if you want to deposit into IBRK from wise, you can

  1. convert in Wise to USD, then from Wise, ACH to IBRK for a fee of U$0.39. or,
  2. link wise<->IBKR, then from IBKR, request a transfer from wise (more direct, but more expensive)
if your IBKR account is created but not approved, IBKR won't give you any bank details to do ACH transfer (via wise, or any other US banks)
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Thanks. For me, I just transfer SGD to IBKR from a Singapore bk and convert in IBKR to USD. Wise is not good for conversion of RM to USD from my experience.
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post Oct 21 2023, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 21 2023, 08:43 PM)
Don't know la. I believe cheapest route
RM-> SGD via moneymatch/money changers -> sg bank acocunt--> SGD into IBKR -> convert to USD via IBKR
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post Oct 23 2023, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Oct 23 2023, 10:06 AM)
you can pick VUSA instead of VOO... save 15% on dividend tax. to save on transaction fees, use the "recurring investment" feature in IBKR to buy
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Nonresident..._domiciled_ETFs
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 23 2023, 10:10 AM)
I said many times in many places. If you want highest return, go with QQQ. Their return have always been more than S&P500 butord volatile. If you cannot stand volatility, then stick with S&P500. Ireland version of QQQ
https://www.reddit.com/r/singaporefi/commen...lent/?rdt=63973

US etf if you want to do options.
Ireland version if you don't want options and save 15% on dividend tax.
CSPX (non fractional shares) or VUAA (lower price and support fractional shares)

Once you get 100 shares in US, you can easily do options to get back your 30% tax and more. Not everyone wants to do options.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 23 2023, 11:26 AM)
Why not MGK if you want to be more tech heavy? 58% portfolio in Apple, Microsoft, Alphabet, Amazon, Nvidia, Tesla, Meta and Netflix. Performance wise almost the same but annual expense ratio only 0.07% vs 0.20% for QQQ
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All very good info, thanks. But I expect stocks to drop further for the time being especially MGK. Netflix already miss the boat as price shoot up after earnings while Tsla bad news for the next few quarters.
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post Oct 23 2023, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 23 2023, 04:38 PM)
I did abit of research and wonder if someone can advise me whether I should invest in my son's study fund in

Vusa vs VWRA

Vusa is 100% in US
Where as Vwra is more global

Dividend yeild wise Vwra wins but Vusa has better performance
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My 2 cents, why don't you just split and invest in 2 funds. That's what I would do if face with this dilemma

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