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post Nov 17 2022, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(Toku @ Nov 17 2022, 06:58 PM)
Is there a min for transfer to DBS? You can send to My Account first, then only deposit into FD. There is a SGD10 inward fee though.
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The minimum amount for USD deposits at DBS is 5k SGD or equivalent. (For UOB, it would be 5k of the deposit currency, i.e. 5k USD)

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For Foreign Currency FD, the minimum amount is 5,000 SGD equivalent.

Source: https://www.dbs.com.sg/personal/rates-onlin...d-deposits.page


I was planning to follow this tip (first post of that page): https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/....6764389/page-4

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Hey everyone, sharing a hack here.

If you transfer from IBKR in USD to a DBS USD fixed deposit (USD), it automatically puts that amount into a default 1 month deposit and there is no $10 commission fee. Change the maturity instructions to withdraw it to your emulticurrency account. After 1 month move the money as you required. I been doing that for a couple of years now. Please however do call DBS to check in case they change their policy anytime.

For DBS to IBKR even more straightforward, use DBS remit, same day transfer zero fees.

This IBKR DBS method has saved me lots of commission and wire fees over these years.


So, no need to pay 10 SGD if you directly transfer into USD FD account. But your money will be stuck there for 1 month before you can transfer to My Account. You will earn 1 month USD interest in the mean time.

Reference: https://www.dbs.com.sg/personal/support/ban...nd-charges.html

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Incoming Funds Transfer

For crediting to a SGD or Foreign Currency Current Account – S$10 Handling Commission Fee (Waived for Treasures Customers)
For crediting to a Foreign Currency Fixed Deposit Account – Free
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post Nov 17 2022, 11:03 PM

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For those of you seeking short-term (1-3 month) ultraliquid USD parking facility in IB, I found several US 1-3 month Treasury bill ETFs like BIL and SGOV.

Assume you adjust SMART routing to VLow (High volume exchange with lowest fee), you can get your trades executed with as low as 0.24 USD instead of the usual "0.35 USD". BIL is liquid but expense ratio is high at 0.14% p.a., SGOV's expense ratio is low but that is due to temporary fee rebate by BLK which would terminate on 30th June 2023 (after which it would be around 0.14-0.15% p.a., on par with BIL). Moreover, SGOV has about 6% asset exposure in its own institutional cash fund which has Treasury floating rate notes and introduces additional counterparty risks with banks like Citi, Credit Agricole etc. So, not truely "risk-free".

I did some IRR calculations and found that you can get returns of about 1.3% p.a. for the 2-month holding period, factoring 30% WHT for the monthly distributions and 0.24-0.35 USD commissions, charged twice (once during purchase, once during sell).

Much lower than contemporary 2-month UST yield, but better than holding everything on cash balance and let IB suck all your interests away I guess. After all, in terms of opportunity costs, there is nothing more "risk-free" than risk-free rates. So, in theory, as long as better than 0% p.a., one should bite. tongue.gif

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post Nov 17 2022, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(Toku @ Nov 17 2022, 10:56 PM)
But the FD account only show SGD as default currency. I was worried that it automatically convert from USD to SGD after transfer. Can't find any explanation from DBS website about direct transfer to FD account guideline.

As for transfer from DBS to IBKR, how do you enter your account number? I found there is no field to key in the note "For further credit to account xxxxx". Only one account number which is IBKR account at corresponding bank can be entered.
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I don't think currency conversion would be an issue. I believe the foreign currency FD and SGD deposit FD share the same "fixed deposit" account.

Ramjade has done transfer from DBS My Account USD balance to IB before using DBS Remit. (It should be wire transfer, same day receival.) You can ask him on the detailed steps. I haven't tried that yet.

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post Nov 17 2022, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(Toku @ Nov 17 2022, 11:38 PM)
DBS 1mth FD gives 3.42%, 3mth 4.28%. If you have >10k, IBKR giving 3.33%. Wouldn't this better than buying ETFs that gives 1.3% but may subject to various risks?
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Yes, that info is for those who:

1. Do not have DBS account.
2. Don't have 5k SGD.
3. Already withdrew cash out of IB once in any particular month, so you need to park your cash for a few weeks before next month arrives, then only you move out your funds to DBS USD FD.

Take note that DBS FD isn't a complete substitute to US Treasury. It's not insured and there is still some counterparty risk, but much lower than say, Maybank or Credit Suisse. For BIL, State Street is just a market maker (participating agent), your funds are held segregated in a custodian account. DBS USD FD would mean your money is directly on the bank's balance sheet and yet is not insured.

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post Nov 18 2022, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 17 2022, 11:55 PM)
No. Cause FD you are getting fixed 3.xx%. Etf over time will give you 8-9%p.a
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Read properly bro... We are discussing ultraliquid Uncle Sam T-bills ETF, not your typical VOO. Fed isn't raising rates until 8-9% p.a. yet...

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post Nov 18 2022, 11:52 AM

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post Nov 18 2022, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Nov 15 2022, 09:17 PM)
Someone PMed me and asked how to transfer from IBKR UK to IBKR US. For the benefit of everyone else, I will just post the steps here.

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As this is still an ongoing process, I will update you guys from time to time.
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Update from IBKR:

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Dear Mr. [My name],
In order to process this manual transfer request, you need to do the following:

1. Please find the Letter of Authorization sent via email. Kindly fill the form, sign (handwritten signature) and return along with a Government issued (signed) documents “i.e." (passport or driver's license) for the account holder. Note: Signature on the form should match with the signature on the ID document provided.
2. We need to do a verbal verification with the account holder before we can process this request. After submitting the documents, kindly contact us and mention the ticket number [my query's ticket number] for the verbal verification.
Our contact numbers are available on the following webpage: https://www.ibkr.com/support
You can attach the required documents on the webticket for this manual transfer request (# [my query's ticket number] ).

Kindly go through these transfer related notes:

•Submitting a transfer request is not a guarantee that we will process.
For FULL ACCOUNT transfers - The source account will be slated for closure and will not be able to be used again once the transfer is complete. Any deposits, transfers, postings, etc., will automatically sweep to the new account and cannot be moved back.
•If applicable, Financial Advisor fees may not be assessed as they do not accrue. In the event Advisor fees are owed by a client to an Advisor, it is the responsibility of the client and their Advisor to resolve.
•Market data subscriptions will not transfer and may not terminate on the source account if applicable.
•Stock Yield permissions, loans and borrows will not transfer.
•Depending upon the circumstances, open orders on the source account may not automatically be canceled and should be reviewed.
•SMA (Special Memorandum Account), accruals and TWS cost basis will not transfer. Once Accruals post to the source, they will automatically sweep to the new account.
•Cost basis information as shown on the statements may change depending upon various IRS regulations and factors.
•Cost basis information on internally transferred positions cannot be changed.
•Once final approval has been received, these requests can be queued for overnight processing on a best efforts basis.
•We ask that on transfer day, the client keep trading in the afterhours (U.S.) to a minimum as trades which occur may not transfer properly to the new account and could require an extra day to sweep to the new account.
•In reality, depending on what documents we have on file, what needs to be required, and compliance turnaround, these types of transfers can take anywhere from 2 days to several weeks.
•If the margin type differs between accounts then you will be asked to acknowledge the difference or to change the account type prior to the transfer being scheduled.
•Unvested IBKR welcome shares cannot be transferred and may be forfeited after the transfer. Please review the terms of service related to the welcome share program.
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QUOTE(TOS @ Nov 18 2022, 11:54 PM)
Update from IBKR:
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Completed the call a moment ago. They will ask you if you are doing a full account transfer, partial account transfer or cash transfer. Make sure you tell them "FULL account transfer".

Reiterate to them that the original/source account will be closed upon transfer.

They also confirm that the orders you submitted right now in the old account will not be transferred over to the new account. So, you will have to resubmit all the orders in your new account. Any further communications will be via IB's secure message center under the same ticket number given when you initiated the transfer request earlier.

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post Nov 22 2022, 02:02 PM

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IBKR announced yesterday that you may trade selected ETFs overnight via their EOS ATS. They include

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/2022...urs-for-US-ETFs

https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/tradi...ers/ibkrats.php

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Interactive Brokers offers Overnight Trading on IBEOS in the following 24 widely-held US ETFs: FXI, SPY, EEM, GLD, SLV, DIA, UNG, TLT, IWM, QQQ, USO, SH, RWM, PSQ, AGG, DOG, EWA, EFA, EWJ, IJH, VTI, XLF, XLE, and XLK. Overnight Trading Hours on IBEOS are from 8:00 pm ET to 3:30 am ET, with the first session of the week beginning on Sunday at 8:00 pm ET and the last session of the week ending on Friday at 3:30 am ET. Any trades occurring during Overnight Trading Hours will be settled on schedule as if they had occurred during the next US stock regular trading hours session.

All clients with US Stock trading permission will have access to Overnight Trading on IBEOS and can take advantage of multiple order types and free overnight market data.


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QUOTE(NicholasKDW @ Nov 22 2022, 05:51 PM)
need some advice. anyone here using HSBC everyday global - multicurrency account and deposit for IBKR ? is this HSBC multicurrency acc method better than the cimb way of deposit ?
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2% FX spread + 25 MYR cable charges for HSBC MY TT route vs 0.5-0.6% all-in-spread for fintech-CIMB SG route.

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QUOTE(lctw87 @ Nov 24 2022, 10:15 AM)
What would be best way to fund MYR 120K into IBKR?

Using WISE-ACH or CIMB SG?

If i not wrong, WISE only can max MYR 30K, meaning i need to perform few transactions?

Sifu, pls advice
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For safety, use Wise (MYR) -> CIMB SG (SGD) -> IBKR (SGD) -> IBKR (USD) method.

You can of course directly use Wise (MYR) -> IBKR (USD) at the risk of receiving AML notifications from IBKR. Some members here have reported AML messages from IBKR asking you to send money in your own name, despite Wise claiming that their USD cash balance account is in you own name. Repeated offences may result in account closure.

And yes, if you use Wise (or most major fintech service providers), max is 30k MYR, so you need to do multiple transactions either with different bank accounts (using different fintech service like Instarem, Sunway Money etc) or spread your transfer over a few days.
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QUOTE(lctw87 @ Nov 24 2022, 12:31 PM)
If i use the route "Wise (MYR) -> CIMB SG (SGD) -> IBKR (SGD) -> IBKR (USD) method", can i transfer the entire 120k MYR in one shot?
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As said earlier, Wise limits you 30,000 MYR per day. https://wise.com/help/articles/2932332/guid...o-myr-transfers

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How much can I send?

Malaysians and Expatriates are allowed to send 30,000 MYR per day.


So, you need to split over multiple days or use another bank account + another fintech service provider.

E.g.: (Wise + Maybank MY 30k) followed by (Sunway Money + CIMB MY another 30k), repeat again the next day, so total 120k MYR in 2 days.

Or (Wise + any bank account 30k), repeat for 4 days = total 120k MYR in 4 days.
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QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Nov 25 2022, 11:06 AM)
What are the advantages of IBKR US over IBKR UK? I was afraid of moving my IBKR UK to US because of potential tax issues. But AFAIK, taxes should not broker dependent.
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Pretty much US regulation vs that of UK.

Judging by figures for investor protection if firm fails: Max 500k USD inclusive of 250k USD max cash for SIPC in the US vs 85k GBP for FSCS compensation.

Judging by history and experience richness: SIPC's 50-year history through multiple crises vs FSCS's 20-year history. Claiming process seems to be easier via SIPC versus FSCS

(Debatable, as it's very subjective, I find the SIPC interface easy and clean, you know where to file for claims and check for status and updates easily. FSCS requires some funny inputs.)

And lastly, you want USD in a crisis, not GBP.

As for tax issues. I don't think there is any substantial changes. If I understand correctly, you pay US estate taxes on your US stocks regardless of whether your holdings are in IB UK or in IB US (up to the stipulated limit of 60k USD for NRA). As for dividend withholding taxes, it is based on your residency, nothing to do with whether you use IB UK or IB US (or Futu SG/Futu HK/Tiger/FSM SG or MY etc.). This is info from dwRK:

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tax obligation is on the customer's/tax payer's tax status or residency...


Source: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...#entry102602330

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QUOTE(teslaman @ Nov 25 2022, 11:10 AM)
Just use HSBC, 1/2m also can
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HSBC TT incur 25 MYR charge plus 2% FX spread. Unless you transfer very large amount of money, its rates and savings can't beat those fintech players.

The cheaper "Global Transfer" is for transfer between you, your family, and friends only, not for commercial usage and is only available for rich "Premier" and "Advanced" customer, if I understand correctly. https://www.hsbc.com.my/investments/product...ansfer-payment/
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QUOTE(xerxesbear_1 @ Nov 25 2022, 11:29 PM)
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I was asked to do a verbal verification. I dont know which number to call them. Can someone help me?
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Here you go: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...#entry101660597

The phone number may have changed, or may not. Check here for the latest phone number: https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/index...=1560&p=contact

It should be +1 (877) 442-2757 based on what I check.
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QUOTE(xerxesbear_1 @ Nov 26 2022, 12:03 AM)
cool thanks. she asked if i wanted a full, partial or cash transfer. I said "full transfer". I think that's right
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Yes, full transfer. That's correct.

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