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Ramjade
post Jul 10 2020, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(z21j @ Jul 10 2020, 01:36 PM)
Actually i quite agree with one of the bros above that the info flow on the first page is quite massive and anyone new to ibkr would find it confuse....i copied tis link from the first post by ts, not sure if this is the whitelabels that everyone is referring to, but it seems that min trade is usd1.5?
https://www.tradestation-international.com/...ng-commissions/

On a separate note, i read some in this thread that ibkr lite is not applicable for singaporeans or malaysians right?
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Pure iB is usd0.35/ transaction with usd10 inactivity fees.
Tradestation global is whitelabels of IB at USD1.50/transactions for US stocks with no inactivity fees.
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post Jul 10 2020, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(z21j @ Jul 10 2020, 03:36 PM)
Thanks Ramjade. So in summary, it means if you trade more than 7 times in a month then pure ib tiered pricing is good, if between 7 to 10 times then can consider pure ib fixed pricing, and if 6 transactions and below in a month then better choose Tradestation global. I think ib tiered is good for my case cause i easily trade 10 times in just a day.

Btw, i just initiated the ibkr acc opening, doesnt seem there is an option to choose tiered pricing. I suppose i can choose it when i execute the trade?
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Tiered only for pure IB. You have to modify it in the webpage.
Ramjade
post Jul 10 2020, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Jul 10 2020, 11:21 PM)
Hi all. Need your help.

I don't have sg account. All my banks are in Malaysia at the moment.

My IB account has been activated, so is it best for me to approach local bank to do transfer wise to IB? But where's the details for me to send fund?

I don't trade often. Maybe once a month. And I hate monthly charges purely for maintanence.

Appreciate your help in this matter. Thanks

Yes. I've tried reading the thread but at 75 pages and for newcomers, it gets a little tough.
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Open one then. It's very easy. You don't need to be a priority banking customer. Can be done online. Reason for using SG is it's cheaper than using Malaysian banks.
if you go through Malaysian banks you pay more in the long run.
If you like giving banks free money and have less money to invest be my guest.

For me I don't like to give free money to banks and I would like to have more for myself.

If you insist on using Malaysian banks only, and you only need US market and not Canada market, can consider trading212. It's cheaper than IB. Trading212 have access to US, UK and Europe market.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Jul 10 2020, 11:41 PM
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post Jul 11 2020, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Jul 11 2020, 10:46 AM)
The one you've mentioned is cimb. And honestly i have 6 bank accounts in Malaysia for various purposes but no cimb. And I dread to maintain one more.

Do you recommend Maybank sg. I have a maybank 🌟

I noted on your concern on the higher charges if insisting on using malaysian bank.

I will check out trading212. Thanks a lot.

But may I ask. Why do you prefer IB than trading 212 if the latter is cheaper. Just a simple few reasons will do.

Cheers!
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Close some bank account in Malaysia. If they don't serve any purpose you are wasting time with 6 bank accounts. Keep in mind most banks in Malaysia have charges for bank accounts from RM8-15/year. Nowadays everything can be paid/transfer instantly with IBFT/DuitNOW and JomPay.

Reason for recommending Cimb SG:
1. Very favorable exchange rate to bring back money to Malaysia almost money changer rates if you need (it's a promo not a permanent feature but they have been extending every time)
2. No fall below fees. In SG if your bank account falls below SGD500/1000/3000, you will be charged SGD2-5/month (depending on account)

Reasons for picking IB
1. When I opened my IB, I never hear about Trading 212.
2. No local UK bank account which makes transferring money over long time expensive unlike IB where I can just use SG bank account to do a local transfer (forced to use Malaysian banks). Which means over long time I pay more and have less to invest.
3. No access to HK and Canada market.

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post Jul 11 2020, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Richkierich @ Jul 11 2020, 07:22 AM)
A quick question guys, do they offer any options trade via IB?
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Yes you need to enable in your trading permission.
Ramjade
post Jul 11 2020, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Jul 11 2020, 11:39 AM)
Thanks, Ram, you have been very helpful.

The current ones are there for various reasons, somehow that's just the situation. Yes, definitely will find ways to trim my accounts.

Thanks, I will figure out CIMB. But you did say you won't convert is back to MYR one day, does it mean when you sell your stock one day, you will keep it as SGD?

Thanks also for the reasons given. I will have a look at trading 212- maybe more suitable for me.
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Yes I won't convert back. My money which I transfer overseas are basically one way ticket. The reason is simple. Ringgit is a a depreciating asset and I won't hold onto a depreciating asset.
That way I can maintain my purchasing power.

QUOTE(Gwynbleidd @ Jul 11 2020, 12:12 PM)
Regarding Trading 212, those with TW Borderless Account should be able to use it without dealing with the high transaction costs/fees of local banks right?
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Theoretically yes but I don't think anyone tested yet. If you have tested, kindly let us know.

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post Jul 11 2020, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(Gwynbleidd @ Jul 11 2020, 12:54 PM)
Too bad I don't have the TW Borderless Account. I signed up only after they removed Malaysians eligibility.
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My account still having the borderless account. I think they reinstate it back.
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post Jul 11 2020, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jul 11 2020, 01:30 PM)
I have both the TW account and trading212. Will try and update you all...but not so soon.
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Thanks. If it work is a good alternative.
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post Jul 11 2020, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(willylwl @ Jul 11 2020, 03:41 PM)
Hello Sifu,

Is it free if we use spore bank fast transfer to interactive brokers spore citibank acc?

Read from a blog article stated we can try transfer sgd100 first to check whether we got it right.
Thank you.
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Yes free if use FAST transfer.
Keep in mind it must be in SGD, second make sure your bank doesn't have fall below fees (amount must be above certain amount or not else banks will start charging you money unless you are using CIMB which does not have fall below fees.)
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post Jul 11 2020, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Jul 11 2020, 09:02 PM)
Question:
1. Can withdraw funds to bank account or must go back to BigPay?
2. Live market data for US, Canada and Europe?
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They don't have access to Canada market. From what I see on YouTube yes live data.

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post Jul 11 2020, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(singkalan @ Jul 11 2020, 10:38 PM)
Bros, if you transfer money through InstaRem/Transferwise out of Malaysia, is there a certain threshold before they notify Bank Negara? Another question would be if you withdraw your stock gainz in to sg bank account, is it considered taxable income by LHDN?
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Theoretically below rm5k they won't ask for documents.
More than rm5k maybe will ask you for documents. Failing to produce documents that satisfied the transferer will cancel your transaction and money will be refund to you.

Whether they inform bank negara or not, I am not sure. Even if they income so what? We are allowed to invest overseas.
If you have loans maximum you can transfer out of the country is rm1m/year.

Most important is can you provide the documents when they asked.

Not taxable. But grey area if you do it for a living.
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post Jul 12 2020, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jul 11 2020, 11:43 PM)
1, not sure to be honest. haven't tried
2, yes, think so
yup ur right..wrong info
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No live data?

QUOTE(willylwl @ Jul 12 2020, 09:26 AM)
Hello Sifu,

Even if we use the dividend reinvest program, our dividends still taxable by US? Any way to avoid the 30% dividend tax ?
Thank you.
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Of course. Cannot run away

Only way
1. If you are buying etf buy Ireland fund from LSE
2. Throw away your IC and become citizen if another country that have tax treaty.

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post Jul 12 2020, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(normanTE @ Jul 12 2020, 10:03 PM)
I had opened the IBKR trading account thru website.
problem come when i try to TT telegraphic transfer the fund the trading account.
the excused given by uob. ocbc and maybank malaysia is the account that receive the fund must be your name not interactive broker account
is this even possible bank negara made it so difficult to transfer the funds out of malaysia.
If I go to blackmarket and do them, there will be some repurcusion eg CRS or OECD which you need to answer to LHDN despite all the funds is legally acquired.

is there anything that i filled wrongly?
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QUOTE(normanTE @ Jul 12 2020, 10:11 PM)
IBKR Is listed in the US but trading212 is not. i would be worry of my funds safety despite they are FIDC insured if the company is us based.
Per transaction London Stock Exchange thru maybank is horrandeous it cost me 600 gbp per trip of in and out. unless you have good volume you are likely to lose money
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That's why I said use sg banks. Easy. No problem. No expensive transaction fees involved.
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post Jul 12 2020, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(normanTE @ Jul 12 2020, 10:19 PM)
kindly elaborate abit here. how to use singapore banks?
do you mean i need to open up uob ocbc or dbs in singapore and transfer funds from malaysia to singapore 1st before sending them to IBKR?
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Yes. Open account with them. Pick one.
You can open from Malaysia. Don't even need to travel there.
No need to be priority customer.

Malaysian banks -> Instarem/bigpay/TransferWise-> Sg bank > IBKR Sg Bank account (local transfer in SGD) -> convert at spot rate inside IBKR. I am basically using money changer rates or close to money changer rates using those fintech.

QUOTE(normanTE @ Jul 12 2020, 10:40 PM)
i use to think that since 2000 been sending hkd and remembered that good old day 1 rm can exchange 2.55 hkd.
those fund become a problem when they ballooned as i swing traded some bank shares and china mobile back them from transfered 600,000 hkd it swelled to hkd 5 million in 10 yr. ( traded hsbc and sold at 140 hkd, after that position trade china mobile and banking stock) they give fat dividend and potential upswing when you buy them right.
problem really start when you have huge funds outside malaysia in 2016 they started something call oecd or crs common reporting system where by all account start to ask you TIN tax identification numbers. last year alone i know more people been invited to Lhdn to explain the source of funds you need to keep the bank statement ready back to genesis. most bank singpore bank dont have such details and they are charging 50sgd permonth. where as most hk and us bank account statement is given out free.
Honestly singapore account is not the best but they are ease if you live in malaysia.
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As long you have proof everything and you paid your tax you are free to invest.
Only scared if you got no proof.

What nonsense are you talking about sgd50/month?
I am not paying anything for my sg bank account. It's basically free.
Only need to watch out for fall below fees if you are using Maybank. Heard latest one must keep min sgd1k or will be charged sgd2.00/month. My account minimal amount to maintained is sgd500.00

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post Jul 12 2020, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(anwa @ Jul 12 2020, 11:01 PM)
Have you tried transferwise direct into ibkr recently (eur/gbp/aud/hkd/sgd)? Read some where rumours ibkr will query since 3rd party. I didn't encounter any issue last month myr to gbp but haven't tried since.
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Nope for what? I just direct transfer from SG bank into IBKR sg bank account.

QUOTE(normanTE @ Jul 12 2020, 11:02 PM)
yes 50sgd per month if you want to trace back all the bank statement from uob singpore. meaning sgd 600 for 1 year of bank statement. and 6000 sgd for 10 yr of statement.
imagine my account opened since 1987. having offshore account back then is peace of mind. in today it give you nothing but trouble.
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Now all bank got online statement. Times change. Thanks to FATCA.
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post Jul 12 2020, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(normanTE @ Jul 12 2020, 11:18 PM)
Honestly I havent heard of transferwise direct.
so who should I approach? maybank?
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Transfewise/instarem.
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post Jul 13 2020, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(jas029 @ Jul 13 2020, 10:55 AM)
wondering will SG banks question for 3rd party when u perform the step instarem/bigpay/transferwise -> SG bank?

and may i know the reason why u dont just instarem/bigpay/transferwise (in SGD) -> SG IBKR?
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Nope. No questions asked.
Reason is I want to avoid 3rd party transfer which have more scrutiny.
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post Jul 13 2020, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(normanTE @ Jul 13 2020, 11:08 PM)
which is the cheapest ROUTE in transfering myr to ibkr? if not TT.
MYR --> SGD --> IBKR ?
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See my previous reply.
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post Jul 14 2020, 07:28 AM

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QUOTE(normanTE @ Jul 13 2020, 11:16 PM)
I see if whitelabel is costing more then pure IB, i will rather stick it with IBKR. my intention is funding 100kusd
I been position trading for years. lately been pretty active in 3 market hk, uk , and us market.
honestly permonth i trade more then 10 position. if you include 3 -4 or 5 market that is not an issue for me
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Is not how much you trade. Is whether your trading commission can generate usd10/month or not.

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post Jul 15 2020, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(jas029 @ Jul 14 2020, 01:55 PM)
i see..

another quick one.. does that mean its fine to TT from m'sian bank (acc under my own name) in MYR.. exchange into USD.. direct to IBKR in USD? IBKR acc under my own name as well.. since there's no 3rd party involvement here..

and i do understand this step have to go through the crappy exchange rate and high bank charges
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Yup can do that but pay more = less available for investing over long term.

QUOTE(willylwl @ Jul 14 2020, 02:55 PM)
Hello Sifu,

May i ask how we should convert sgd to usd?.... using TWS , or just using the app? or client portal?
If using TWS.... Should we use idealpro or fxconv?
Some youtuber said must use fxconv but some said the other way round 😅
Please help thank you.

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Fxconv - no virtual position.
Idealpro - virtual position which cannot be deleted, can only hide.

Depends on what you want. If like to see virtual position on your Forex conversion use idealpro. I don't like hence I use fxconv.

QUOTE(Chanching @ Jul 14 2020, 07:40 PM)
Guys how do we go about withdrawing funds from IB to CIMB? Do I need to convert back USD to SGD then transfer to CIMB Sg?

Or do I just withdraw straight in USD without currency exchange to CIMB SG?

Also, can withdraw directly into CIMB MY? How do I go abt this , someone help😅
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Convert USD to SGD directly using Ibkr. Withdraw out to CIMB sg.
Transfer directly using CIMB clicks sg but need to link your CIMB Malaysia account.

QUOTE(Raymond_ACCA @ Jul 14 2020, 08:09 AM)
Big pay has served me well. Their MYR/SGD rates are always almost close to google’s rate. And then convert to USD via IBKR is cheap too.

Basically can reach within 1 day if transfer before 5pm (will receive the money in IBKR before US market open the following day)
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Max only RM 10k/transfer right?

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Jul 15 2020, 10:06 AM

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