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 Toyota Harrier 2.0 NA recond, Any experience or issue with it

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post Oct 4 2019, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(hft @ Oct 4 2019, 03:14 PM)
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Most don’t need this drama. Especially when going from point A to B
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post Oct 4 2019, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(jagjag @ Oct 4 2019, 09:32 AM)
Wow..so you have a workshop and this is real first hand experience...good advise ..thks
No im not those spirited driver or sport car driver type...ya occasionally when drive alone i did push my car a bit...but generally i'm the type who 'sayang' my car very much..from engine to exterior and interior.
But from what you say, mean this car is prone to gear box failure.... hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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we sell import recon and used cars. our panel workshop done many of this already. 2 of our customers kena. that's out of around 6 units or so. if you drive like normal ok la. if you like to speed then look elsewhere. the sport mode makes it rev high easily, which is really bad for the cvt
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post Oct 5 2019, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(eyerule @ Oct 4 2019, 09:13 PM)
we sell import recon and used cars. our panel workshop done many of this already. 2 of our customers kena. that's out of around 6 units or so. if you drive like normal ok la. if you like to speed then look elsewhere. the sport mode makes it rev high easily, which is really bad for the cvt
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Wow..this is a very very honest answer i guess..thanks mate..
Seem like is not wise to take the risk ...or else with this car, really have to test my patient everytime i drive it
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post Oct 5 2019, 10:17 AM

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Risk vs Reliable

Choose yourself. Once a recond car is sold to a person
They do not care about anything happen to it. Warranty? 1 year of full crap excuses

If you want a ease of mind and warranty. Better stick with new

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my relative act smart even though most of us try to persuade him and he eventually bought a audi tt.

He is that kind of person who do not really listen to people opinions until he experience it. He fork out more than 50k of repairs in cash within 3 years only

Audi already discontinue the vehicle . Probably too many problems

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post Oct 5 2019, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(Eternalgl0ry @ Oct 5 2019, 10:17 AM)
Risk vs Reliable

Choose yourself. Once a recond car is sold to a person
They do not care about anything happen to it. Warranty? 1 year of full crap excuses

If you want a ease of mind and warranty. Better stick with new

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my relative act smart even though most of us try to persuade him and he eventually bought a audi tt.

He is that kind of person who do not really listen to people opinions until he experience it. He fork out more than 50k of repairs in cash within 3 years only

Audi already discontinue the vehicle . Probably too many problems
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Noted..i'm not a stubborn person for sure... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
Ya ya..oso i can safely say that i can't really 'afford' the recon car from what i get from K.
Not goin to throw so much money to maintain a car...50k for 3 yrs i can go for few holidays with my family....
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post Oct 14 2019, 09:32 AM

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Hi Guys, i've decided to get the cx 5 instead..new car less problem..missus and kids love it..so easier choice..
Thanks for all the input guys.....
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post Oct 14 2019, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(eyerule @ Oct 4 2019, 09:13 PM)
we sell import recon and used cars. our panel workshop done many of this already. 2 of our customers kena. that's out of around 6 units or so. if you drive like normal ok la. if you like to speed then look elsewhere. the sport mode makes it rev high easily, which is really bad for the cvt
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is it all cvt cars are exposed to lifespan shortening if the driver always floor the pedal?
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post Oct 14 2019, 01:16 PM

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Cx5 over harrier IMO harrier na very underpower
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post Oct 14 2019, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(teikchuan @ Oct 14 2019, 01:16 PM)
Cx5 over harrier IMO harrier na very underpower
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CX 5 i oso opt for non turbo...no need so much power...
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post Oct 15 2019, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(jagjag @ Oct 14 2019, 03:41 PM)
CX 5 i oso opt for non turbo...no need so much power...
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Which spec did you opt for?
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post Oct 15 2019, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(blackie19 @ Oct 15 2019, 11:12 AM)
Which spec did you opt for?
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2.5 na..i wanted little bit more power as my current ride is a 2.0 c segment.
Dont need so much so not consider 2.5 T..
A 2.0 T is the best option but sadly not with CX 5
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post Oct 15 2019, 04:27 PM

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Those recon 2.0 cvt harrier have 2 problem only. Gearbox n aircon. The gearbox is the torque converter pin break. Its a defect affecting the early batch. U can repair the gearbox by replacing the pins cause around 5k. Then it is problem free. The aircon will sometime stuck 1 side blow hot n another side cold. Then u must use computer to reset it.
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post Oct 15 2019, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(Honto @ Oct 15 2019, 04:27 PM)
Those recon 2.0 cvt harrier have 2 problem only. Gearbox n aircon. The gearbox is the torque converter pin break. Its a defect affecting the early batch. U can repair the gearbox by replacing the pins cause around 5k. Then it is problem free. The aircon will sometime stuck 1 side blow hot n another side cold. Then u must use computer to reset it.
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This is the problem someone mentioned here but 5K to replace the pin..guess i can't afford to maintain this car..
Air con like this, i hate it whenever i encounter aircon problem with my car..think i made a right decision not to go with this car..
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post Oct 15 2019, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(jagjag @ Oct 15 2019, 11:22 AM)
2.5 na..i wanted little bit more power as my current ride is a 2.0 c segment.
Dont need so much so not consider 2.5 T..
A 2.0 T is the best option but sadly not with CX 5
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Harrier 2.0 Turbo will fulfill your requirements.
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post Oct 15 2019, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(scarnut @ Oct 15 2019, 06:00 PM)
Harrier 2.0 Turbo will fulfill your requirements.
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But sadly it did not fulfill my pocket..
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post Oct 16 2019, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(jagjag @ Oct 15 2019, 04:37 PM)
This is the problem someone mentioned here but 5K to replace the pin..guess i can't afford to maintain this car..
Air con like this, i hate it whenever i encounter aircon problem with my car..think i made a right decision not to go with this car..
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Good choice. I will go with u on the cx 5. Hassle free for 5 years. If those still wanted a harrier, i suggest go with the turbo harrier. If ur wallet deep enough or wait 2 more years for recon within the wallet reach.
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post Oct 16 2019, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(Honto @ Oct 16 2019, 08:38 AM)
Good choice. I will go with u on the cx 5. Hassle free for 5 years. If those still wanted a harrier, i suggest go with the turbo harrier. If ur wallet deep enough or wait 2 more years for recon within the wallet reach.
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Think CX 5 is good choice..haha
But donno 2.5 na that i choose i really a good one compare to 2.0 or to some extend why not just go for 2.5T.... confused.gif confused.gif
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post Oct 18 2019, 11:25 PM

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Exactly,for Early batch of harrier and vellfire with 2015/16 all car 2.5 before 2016 April,will having the torque converter problem,AC Colling coil need to change around 70K km.
CVT gear box for me no problem I drive 2.4 vellfire 2009 brought 2014,until now for normal service and has been change fan motor two unit,price around rm 1K including labour,
Colling coil both side RM 2500 done in same day,break pad,front rotor due to bending Toyota common problem, steering rack never change before,front bumper two times,doe to some minor accident,two HID light bulb brought chop shop RM 200 for tow piece next project going to change whole set of suspension system including many bush and rod, bearing today getting quote rm 3080 only for buying parts.
New drive shaft cover RM 350 original,master cylinder pump buying chop shop RM 500.for my own experience overall it's good if you ask me compare with new car,warranty don't really care about it.last time i brought new car, service booking and spending from early morning 7:30am to waiting until 11am only for oil change.the car brought new still under warranty,some undercarriage parts having problems need to rectify and many excuse send you the quote for 10K they say if you request to change this parts the rest of suspension system need to change only will work effectively,bull shit.i sold off the car and brought this.drive to ah beng shop 30min done for normal oil change save my time.new car under warranty oil change RM 480,recon car service ah Beng shop RM 250.
As for Toyota you can choose buy OEM(fake) or original spare parts.if you don't trust as beng,buy your self at weng hin Toyota.sure ori form Japan. Usually the price has a big gap between original and they called OEM.box looks a like,but quality different.you get what you pay for.
Now got scrut or can ask dealer to send you their auction report,don't trust what they say the report can be altered or fake,cause usually they buying high mileage car cause their cost it's much more cheaper when buying a low grade car.
As I know the tax and excise duty are same if the car has a same manufacturer year and slightly different in different segment and higher engine capacity.
For me I am satisfied with what I buying,cause I can choose slowly and target what I want.if you are regular with certain dealer you can request pre order , browsing your self and see with car you like in Japan used car website and send the link you wish to buy.dealer usually will make 5%or maybe slightly more profit on top of the margin they pay for.
Learning how to inspect the car,buy a Bluetooth ODB reader online cheap. Pay rm 50 for scrut for extra secure report.
At the end you save a lot from UMW new car,and getting some unique spec.as for vellfire the optional home theater system will cause you around 26K when they purchase as a manufacturer option, modellista body kit and others option all paying,I found out Malaysia spec really kiam siap,my friend brought brand new 2018 vellfire comes with 2 LED head light .
Local 4 cam and the tiny head unit localized by Toyota.
Paying RM 350K,I can get a full spec 2018 TRD or modellista
ZG spec with sunroof,moon roof,JBL home theater system,Japan 4 cams, ventilation seat(hot and cold function).
Auto high beam assist,lane keep assistant and many extract,after all its my own opinion,to choose a recon car just like finding a piece of gem in a beach.you may found it if you having experience,many small details usually dealer don't know how to touch up or refurbished.
I learn a lot when I start to survey my next car.
A grade 6AA car it's hard to find,but I saw it unit truly like new car ,the pain and interior I never see in any local used car.brand new,with new car smell mileage only 3K some of them event less, usually dealer will selling slighhagher price.
But if their price it's under the bracket why not?
Don't forget many recon car dealer will bring in repaired car or minor accident unit,or some maybe more worse they buy a low spec car while buying chop shop parts to convert to different spec,many local dealer they installation fake body kit and selling high price.
I usually can tell by just looking their pictures,the colour not match especially white car.new and ageing colour
Just many way to play with the customer,but just remember,don't rush unless you make a final decision to get that unit.do some paper work before purchasing,better then buying a new car just like purchase a uniform.

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post Oct 19 2019, 09:28 AM

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Wow..good experience and lots of effort you got there...
Maybe i don hav that kind of preserverance and passion to do that
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post Oct 20 2019, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(Honto @ Oct 15 2019, 04:27 PM)
Those recon 2.0 cvt harrier have 2 problem only. Gearbox n aircon. The gearbox is the torque converter pin break. Its a defect affecting the early batch. U can repair the gearbox by replacing the pins cause around 5k. Then it is problem free. The aircon will sometime stuck 1 side blow hot n another side cold. Then u must use computer to reset it.
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These 2 problems were a big no to many.

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