https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_of_Lanciano

This allegedly took place in the 700s....way before the protestant reformation or the east west schism.......

And more recently, when the pope was still archbishop of buenos aires, it happened to him too in 1996

On August 15, 1996, in the Parish of Santa Maria, a parishioner received the Consecrated Host in his hands during Communion, but inadvertently dropped it on the floor and thought not to pick it up because it seemed soiled to him. Another more pious person realized what had happened, picked up the host and put it aside, while quickly informing the Parish priest, Father Alejandro Pezet. The priest, following the instructions of the Church in these circumstances, put the Host in a container filled with water, which stayed in the tabernacle waiting for the Host to dissolve.

On August 26, the tabernacle was reopened to remove the fallen Host from the container, and it was found that the Host had not dissolved and had some reddish stains that were growing day by day. The Parish priests hurriedly went to the Archbishop of Buenos Aires, Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio, to tell him what had happened. It was decided that they wait before proceeding with investigations. After the Archbishop learned that I was freely following these scientific investigations, he asked me to take care of the present case.

On October 6, 1999, I went to Buenos Aires and interviewed the five priests who witnessed the event and who told me that another host had bled in May 1992. They had put it in distilled water, which is the worst way to preserve something, and I was very concerned about that.

At the first miracle, the priests had a chemist among their parishioners who had been asked to analyze the Host. This professional chemist had discovered that it was human blood, revealing the presence of the various leukocytes currently known. She was surprised to find that the white blood cells were active.

However, she could not proceed with the genetic examination, because at that time it was not easy to carry out the tests. For my part, I took a sample of the two Hosts that had bled, in the presence of the archiepiscopal notary who certified the legality of this act, as requested by the Church authorities in Argentina.

On October 21, 1999 I went to the genetics laboratory which was doing the analyses of the samples I had brought. On 28 January 2000, the specialists found fragments of human DNA in the samples. They were human blood that contained human genetic code.

In March 2000, I was informed that the famous Dr. Robert Lawrence, a forensic histopathologist and one of the leading experts in tissue analysis, had participated in this study. The scientists explained to me that they had sought his collaboration. Dr. Lawrence studied the samples in which he found human skin and white blood cells.

In 2001, I went to Professor Linoli who identified the white blood cells and told me that the samples most likely matched heart tissue. The results obtained from the samples were similar to those of the studies carried out on Lanciano’s Eucharistic miracle. In 2002, we sent the sample to Professor John Walker at the University of Sydney, Australia, who confirmed that the samples had intact muscle cells and white blood cells, which normally disintegrate when they are out of the body for more than 15 minutes.

In September 2003, Professor Robert Lawrence confirmed to me that, in light of the new investigations, it could be concluded that the sample corresponded to the tissue of an inflamed heart, which meant that the person to whom it belonged must have been in great pain.

On March 2, 2004, in order to remove any doubt, we called in the leading expert in cardiac pathology and forensic medicine, Professor Frederick Zugibe of Columbia University, New York.

The professor didn’t know that the sample I was bringing him was from a Consecrated host. After studying it, he said, “The sample you brought me is a heart muscle, a myocardium, more precisely the left ventricle. “And he confirmed that my patient had suffered a great deal. So I asked him, “Why do you say that? “Because your patient has some thrombus, at certain times preventing breathing, oxygen supply, tiring and making the patient suffer because every breath had to be painful. He probably suffered a blow to the chest. On the other hand, cardiac activity was high at the time you brought me the sample. The white blood cells were found intact and these are only transported by blood. Therefore, if there are white blood cells, it’s because at the time you brought me the sample, it was beating. “The professor then asked me whose sample it was, and when we told him that it was from a Consecrated host, he said, “I don’t believe it. ” He was very impressed. “Doctor, when you brought me that sample, that heart was alive! »

His report was sent on March 26, 2005, 5 and a half years after the studies began, and the conclusions were as follows: “This is heart tissue: there are degenerative changes in the myocardium, which are due to the fact that the cells are inflamed; this concerns the left ventricle of the heart. “On March 17, 2006, I brought these results to Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio.

https://emmanuel.info/en/the-eucharistic-mi...n-buenos-aires/

Sometimes, the easiest thing is just to believe than to engage in banal theological or scriptural discussion. Remember Thomas, who ended up spreading the news in india and eventually dying there, he who walked, talked, lived and dined with Christ had problems believing the accounts of all the other apostles, until he was shown physical proof himself. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe.

Therefore how hard can it be to believe that the broken bread is the real body and the blessed wine is true blood when Christ said it himself........the body and blood was given freely, so take freely. No one is condemned.

Also, there's a reason why satanic rituals attempts to desecrate the host......the black mass, they find ways to distort, to insult, to mock Christ himself. Why is Satan so butthurt about it that it's a highlight in their ritual? The enemy hates it.........The Eucharist is the pinnacle of Christian life....it hates it so much, followed by the Blessed Virgin Mary.....because her very existence insults its pride.

Study the enemy's action and you know why the Boss did all those things.

This post has been edited by feynman: Dec 8 2020, 01:12 PM

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Thanks for diverting it here.

It's a matter of semantics then. It is a jewish festival because it is celebrated by the jews, the ones who were given the law, I use jews and israelites interchangeably here. Sorry that you interpreted it as a cultural festival, it wasn't. It goes without saying that Passover is a remembrance of what Yahweh has done for the Israelites, I would even argue that it's the first physical manifestation of the covenant. it's a not a dinner party for what many would think.

Yes, no Talmud. Judaism has definitely evolved. I meant to refer to the collective body of laws and regulations, either written or through further elaborations and deductions that has encumbered the faith that Christ has pointed out during his time as a man.

You don't have to call it Easter, it can simply be called the Feast of the Resurrection, a label is a label as long as the meaning is not lost. i never really cared about rabbits or eggs to begin with. I get what you mean. In the West, people say Happy Easter. in the East, the greeting is Christos Anesti and the response is Alithos Anesti. Christ is Risen!!, Truly, He has Risen!! That said, I still think co-opting easter was a masterstroke for Christendom in Europe.

You brought up the verse from matthew about 3 days and 3 nights. That relates to the question whether the crucifixion occurred on a Friday or not
There's a separate point to consider here. "On the 3rd day" the resurrection occured and it was on the first day of the week, which is sunday. So all these will need to be reconciled.

i am aware of this. Notwithstanding matt 12:40,

Here's are several points to consider. You may want to look at the greek copies of the NT account, I make no assumptions.

"On the 3rd day"
Several verses in different books in the NT reads "on the 3rd day", on the 3rd day wouldn't be Saturday night/Sunday Morning

The 3rd day would on the Sabbath, friday evening saturday daytime. Or if you count from Wednesday, the 3rd day would be on thursday/friday.


14 Nisan
There's also much consideration if Christ died on 14 or 15 Nisan. Assuming the NT authors used jewish days when they talk about days

14 Nisan Passover
15 Nisan Feast of unleavened bread - would this be the day that no work be done?

Mark 14, on the first day of unleavened bread Nisan 15 the disciples asked Jesus where did He want to eat the Passover meal. That means at the start of 16 Nisan, which is the evening, he ate the last supper, crucified the following morning and died at the end of Nisan 16.

The same account of eating asking jesus where he wanted to eat the passover meal happened on the day of can be found in Matt 26 and Luke 22.

So this diagram, which suggests that the passover meal was eaten at the beginning of 14 Nisan doesn't seem to jive with Matthew Mark and Luke. Would this be a transcribing error in the 3 synoptic gospels?

In John chapter 13 and 19, you could read it as, Jesus did not eat the passover meal, there's no passover meal in John 13 merely a last supper at the beginning of 14 Nisan, just like the diagram. And since the next day is a special Sabbath, i.e. 15 Nisan can coincide with the weekly Sabbath. Making it a double holiday, hence special.

All in all there will be a few scenarios to play out here, but one baseline is established is that, following the burial of Christ, it was a sabbath. Just a matter of a separate one or a coincidental one.

Maybe you can answer this too
1. Does the festival begin on 14 Nisan or 15 Nisan?
2. Is the passover meal eaten on 14 Nisan or 15 Nisan? Jews today eat their sedar meal on 15 Nisan at sunset. What did the 1st century jews do?
3. In Exodus, the Israelites ate the paschal lamb on the night before their departure from Egypt, between 14 nisan and 15 nisan

3rd party source

For this you will need to look up chinese calendar and bump it against the julian and jewish calendars, against some astronomical sightings in the 30's AD

In the records of the later Han Dynasty, i looked it up before, it was tedious. the Guangwu emperor in the 7th year of his reign said this. “癸亥晦日有食之，避正殿，寝兵，不听事五日。诏曰：‘吾德薄致灾，谪见日月，战栗恐惧，夫何言哉！其上书者，不得言圣。’”
courtiers/astrologers wrote this "癸亥日蝕，天人崩！" as a footnote.
The emperor also said
夏四月壬午，诏曰：‘比阴阳错谬，日月薄食。百姓有过，在予一人，大赦天下
Guihai is the last unit of a sexagenary cycle, it doesn't refer to a day of date of a month. Any dates referenced therein would require some proficient in chines timekeeping in during the han dynasty

This post has been edited by feynman: Jul 10 2021, 12:32 PM