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post Oct 11 2019, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(Alan K. @ Oct 10 2019, 06:30 PM)
Everybody is responsible for their own sinfulness. We don't go to hell because of Adam's sin. We go to hell because WE choose to sin individually.
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While it is true we are responsible for our sin but it is also true, we are all fallen because of Adam's sin.

Read on verse that says death came through the one man adam.

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Oct 11 2019, 11:50 AM)
Who's sidetracking here? Asked you simple questions still evading until now and then get triggered because of a common saying.
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You are trying to side track this

Romans 5:20 (KJV) - Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more,

It is, what it is. Through the law, sin /transgress/ offense might abound.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Oct 11 2019, 01:12 PM)
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ACTS.21:20-25 (NKJV) = . 20 And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord. And they said to him, “You see, brother, how many myriads of Jews there are who have believed, and they are all zealous for the law; 21 but they have been informed about you that you teach all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children nor to walk according to the customs. 22 What then? The assembly must certainly meet, for they will hear that you have come.

23 Therefore do what we tell you: We have four men who have taken a vow. 24 Take them and be purified with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave their heads, and that all may know that those things of which they were informed concerning you are nothing, but that you yourself also walk orderly and keep the law. 25 But concerning the Gentiles who believe, we have written and decided that they should observe no such thing, except that they should keep themselves from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality.”
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GAL.2:6-14 = . 6 But from those who seemed to be something—whatever they were, it makes no difference to me; God shows personal favoritism to no man—for those who seemed to be something added nothing to me. 7 But on the contrary, when they saw that the gospel for the uncircumcised had been committed to me, as the gospel for the circumcised was to Peter 8 (for He who worked effectively in Peter for the apostleship to the circumcised also worked effectively in me toward the Gentiles), 9 and when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that had been given to me, they gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised. 10 They desired only that we should remember the poor, the very thing which I also was eager to do.

No Return to the Law

11 Now when Peter had come to Antioch, I withstood him to his face, because he was to be blamed; 12 for before certain men came from James, he would eat with the Gentiles; but when they came, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing those who were of the circumcision. 13 And the rest of the Jews also played the hypocrite with him, so that even Barnabas was carried away with their hypocrisy.

14 But when I saw that they were not straightforward about the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter before them all, “If you, being a Jew, live in the manner of Gentiles and not as the Jews, why do you compel Gentiles to live as Jews? 15 We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, 16 knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.
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Paul, John, Peter and James were Jewish Christians who continued to keep the Law. Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles, was against James and his party in Jerusalem(= the Judaizers) going around the Jewish diaspora requiring new Gentile Christians to be circumcised and keep all of Moses Law = 613 laws.
....... Paul did not rebuke new Jewish Christians for circumcising their male babies or keeping all of Moses Law. If you think so, you are in error. In fact, Paul even circumcised his disciple Timothy who was half-Jewish. Even today, many US Gentile Christians circumcise their male babies like the Jews, ... but not circumcise them as GC adults, as had been pushed by the Judaizers, led by James. .......

"Many countries with majorities of Christian adherents have low circumcision rates (as in Europe and South America), while both religious and non-religious circumcision is common in some predominantly Christian countries such as the United States, and the Philippines, Canada, and in North Africa and West Africa."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_male_circumcision
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Galatians 5:1-4

1 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not be encumbered once more by a yoke of slavery.

2 Take notice: I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. 3 Again I testify to every man who gets himself circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law. 4 You who are trying to be justified by the law have been severed from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.


Read it's meaning. It's interesting the phrase Yoke of slavery is mentioned here together with the phrase circumcision. You either look to the law or you look to God's Grace, there's no two mixture. Circumcision is mentioned here it's one of the 613 laws. Christ would be of no value, look at this strong emphasis. It's either God's law you are justified or God's Grace.

Sorry.

QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Oct 11 2019, 01:12 PM)
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You do understand the meaning of right and wrong vs good evil and the difference of it?

They are the same in the sight or eyes of God. .......
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Irrelevant. Point is, Adam and Eve fully understood what is what. Right and wrong..Yes comes from God hence stands with what I said, the moment they were created in his image, that is built in.
The knowledge of good and evil on the other hand gives us the "KNOWLEDGE" of what is good and what is evil and yet the conscious decision to act, still was something already embedded.

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Oct 11 2019, 01:30 PM)
That sin might abound. Not as if the law were given purposely for sin to abound; but that it so happened, through man's perversity, taking occasion of sinning more, from the prohibition of sin.
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You spew one more judgmental phrase on me, you will be deemed as overstaying your welcome. Don't degrade yourself to what you say on sylar, I take this to be no difference.
This is my last warning to you. Go ahead do it one more time, you will not be welcome in here. Over here we want friendly fellowship, no you being holier than others, thinking your Catholic Doctrine is the only correct doctrine.

Romans 5:20 (KJV) - Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more,

1 Corinthians 15:56 (KJV) - The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law.

Romans 7:8 (KJV) - But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.

What do you understand on Romans 7:8? without the law, sin is dead?

In summary.

God's law empower sin, without the law sin is powerless or dead. That is scripture.

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Rule No.5 added to 1st page. Take note guys.

No more all these threatening with the phrase hell or calling others with judgement. Nobody in here is qualified to do that. Only God can.
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Oct 11 2019, 02:13 PM)
That's your own interpretation.
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Read it yourself.


Romans 5:20 (KJV) - Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more,

1 Corinthians 15:56 (KJV) - The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law.

Romans 7:8 (KJV) - But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.

Which part of those verses too difficult for you to understand? Which part of it, is my own interpretation? Which part of it, says otherwise?

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Oct 11 2019, 03:21 PM)
Fyi, Paul was addressing Gentile Christians at your quote of GAL.5:1-4, and not addressing Jewish Christians. At GAL.2:11-14, the early Jewish Christians cuum Judaizers from Jerusalem had tried to compel new Gentile Christian adults in Galatia to be circumcised and keep all of Moses Law, in order to become "true" Christians like the Judaizers and be saved from hell. Paul was totally against the Judaizers' wrong teaching because Christians were not saved by keeping the Law but by believing in Jesus Christ.

The above controversy had later been settled at the Jerusalem Council of ACTS.15:19-29 = new Gentile Christians were exempted from the burdensome or non-essential parts of Moses Law or God's laws, eg liberated from the law of circumcision, law of kosher/clean foods, etc. OTOH, they were required to begin their born-again Spirit'ual lives by keeping 4 simple non-burdensome laws of Moses, in order to do well on earth. Then they should gradually learn to keep the other non-burdensome or essential laws of God, so as to do even better on earth. Otherwise, they would do worse on earth - JOHN.5:14 & 8:11, 1COR.6:9-11 = "Go and sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you."

As per ROMANS.14:1-4, Gentile Christians were at liberty to not keep or keep these burdensome or non-essential laws = they may or may not circumcise their male babies, eat only kosher/clean foods, keep Sabbath on Sunday only(not other days), etc.
....... Seems, you are misinterpreting GAL.5 to advocate both Jewish and Gentile Christians to always not keep the law of circumcision and all other non-burdensome laws of Moses. That's being too judgmental of other Christians' liberty in non-essential or burdensome laws.......


GAL.5:13-15 = 13 For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. 14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by one another!

In Essentials Unity, In Non-Essentials Liberty, In All Things Love.
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Read this in verse 6

6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. All that matters is faith, expressed through love. <---Meaning those who belong to Christ Jesus then read this

26 You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise.


QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Oct 11 2019, 03:21 PM)
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.Prior to the fall, I believe they were not truly naked in a sense, they were covered with God's glory. ....
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Irrelevant. Point is, Adam and Eve fully understood what is what. Right and wrong..Yes comes from God hence stands with what I said, the moment they were created in his image, that is built in.
The knowledge of good and evil on the other hand gives us the "KNOWLEDGE" of what is good and what is evil and yet the conscious decision to act, still was something already embedded.
Where in the Bible does it says that when Adam and Eve were created by God, they were both covered with God's glory = were not naked.?

How come they were only ashamed after eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and not before, ie if they already had built-in moral conscience of right and wrong when they were created?
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GENESIS.2:25 = 25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

GENESIS.1:31 = . 31 Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good.

At GENESIS.1, God created everything as good, not evil or wrong, eg animals do not know what is evil or wrong. So, it is erroneous to say that God created Adam with the built-in knowledge of good and evil or the moral conscience of right and wrong.

Like I said before, Adam and Eve only knew that they were not supposed to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil when God gave Adam the commandment. If God had not given them the commandment, they would not have known it was evil or wrong of them to eat the fruit. Before the Fall, they saw everything as neutral, neither good nor evil or right nor wrong, like a robot.
....... They erred and fell by not believing in their good God's commandment/Word, and instead believing in the words/lies of evil Satan who impersonated as a talking snake. The main problem with Man lies here, ie believing in the wrong person and his words/lies/deceits, and not with their moral conscience of right and wrong or knowledge of good and evil. Eg God says doing this is evil and wrong but Satan says doing the same thing is good and right. .......


ISAIAH.5:20-21 =
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Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil;
Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness;
Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

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Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes,
And prudent in their own sight!
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Good day.
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That's not right. As I said before, they were not created like Robots, Ive mentioned to you how Adam was brought to God's created creatures and on his own, Adam gave them names. he understood what was asked of God. He and Eve also understood God said they will die, so that debunks the notion of robots.

As For they were covered in God's Glory..ie reference to God's Light..Il get back to you.


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QUOTE(yeeck @ Oct 11 2019, 05:55 PM)
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Nothing explaing what I asked you to read.

New Covenant rightesouness is righteousness of Faith i.e believing.

21 But now, apart from the law, the righteousness of God has been revealed, as attested by the Law and the Prophets. 22And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no distinction, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,…

This righteousness doesn't come from law keeping. Get your theology right. the phrase "apart" from the mean it doesn't from the law or NOT through the law.

As for the phrase "Lord Lord" that is refering to different dispensation, it's refering to the time after rapture where the dispensation of Grace is no more.

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Oct 11 2019, 10:08 PM)
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Not relevant.

We were talking about Jews and Gentiles and all of sudden jump off topic.

I think Ive made myself clear, nobody is talking or insinuatin of breaking God's law.


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lurkingaround, you're telling us, something we already know.

Don't understand what you're trying to prove.

There are Christians who supports OSAS, as well as against OSAS, you're not the 1st.

What I'm trying to say is, your argument is nothing new.

I certainly do hope you don't think christians in here do not know anything, only you do. That would rather rudely arrogant.


p.s: though not important:

You're still not addressing what I've contested against you, there are no seperate Rules or commandments of God between jews and christians who accepts Christ.
When you say jews have to adhere to different sets of rule from the christians, you have a weird theology there, not unless you're refering judaism jew which of course only adhere to the Old Testament Mosaic law.

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For the record, I just want to exlain for my outburst agaist Yeeck.

1st of all this is a protestant Christian Fellowship thread not Catholic. You don't come in here argung with catholicism as your backbone view though you may think you're arguing something that is within protestant. I do know how you think. <--hinting to Yeeck.

Anyway.....When you go to a church, in real life, you don't see people arguing head to head on difference of theology, people are friendly in church, I envision here supposedly to be the same.

But being a forum platform...there are many denominations hence differences of theology.

There ARE different school of thoughts and we cannot say for example..Baptist theology are correct while the Lutheran are not or that Methodist are the only correct while reformed protestant are wrong.

Same thing, there are Christians who believe in pre-destination as well against..i.e OSAS and Anti-OSAS.

I just want to say something why I'm putting my foot down. I'll give you an example.

Prophetjul for sure do not agree to my theology but his post stays and he is welcome, why? Because he doesn't mud sling and condemn people with phrases like you are a son of perdition, you're doom to hell..something along that line.
Want to argue, don''t attack people or threatened people with hell condemnation. First of all you were never qualified to throw something like that, only God Almighty alone has that right.

Also don't put your word into people's mouth. If a forum member has made it clear he never suggest for example...to encourage people to sin, then don't keep on mud slinging on that person giving a wrong impression that he does.
And goes posting scripture verses agitating the person even further. Doing so, only mean that you don't respect what he says and continuation of insisting that he does equates to maligning or slandering the person. That is something I will put my foot down and will never accept in here.

Even desmond's post, l leave it eventhough he and I don't see eye to eye..why? because he has not attack anyone..just posting. That is alright.

I do not want anymore rhetoric like only my denomination theology is correct while yours is wrong, therefore I will fight you until the end. This is an immaturity on your part, need to grow up and chill.

Thank you.

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Oct 13 2019, 11:05 AM)
ACTS.15:19-29 (NKJV) = . 19 Therefore I judge that we should not trouble those from among the Gentiles who are turning to God, 20 but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood. 21 For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath.”

The Jerusalem Decree

22 Then it pleased the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas, namely, Judas who was also named Barsabas,[g] and Silas, leading men among the brethren.

23 They wrote this letter by them:

The apostles, the elders, and the brethren,

To the brethren who are of the Gentiles in Antioch, Syria, and Cilicia:

Greetings.

24 Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, “You must be circumcised and keep the law”—to whom we gave no such commandment— 25 it seemed good to us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who will also report the same things by word of mouth. 28 For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: 29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well.

Farewell.
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ACTS.21:17-25 = 17 And when we had come to Jerusalem, the brethren received us gladly. 18 On the following day Paul went in with us to James, and all the elders were present. 19 When he had greeted them, he told in detail those things which God had done among the Gentiles through his ministry. 20 And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord. And they said to him, “You see, brother, how many myriads of Jews there are who have believed, and they are all zealous for the law; 21 but they have been informed about you that you teach all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children nor to walk according to the customs. 22 What then? The assembly must certainly meet, for they will hear that you have come. 23 Therefore do what we tell you: We have four men who have taken a vow. 24 Take them and be purified with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave their heads, and that all may know that those things of which they were informed concerning you are nothing, but that you yourself also walk orderly and keep the law.

25 But concerning the Gentiles who believe, we have written and decided that they should observe no such thing, except that they should keep themselves from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality.”.
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ROMANS.14:1-13 = The Law of Liberty

14 Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. 2 For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables. 3 Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him. 4 Who are you to judge another’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand.

5 One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks. 7 For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself. 8 For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s. 9 For to this end Christ died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of both the dead and the living. 10 But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11 For it is written:

“As I live, says the Lord,
Every knee shall bow to Me,
And every tongue shall confess to God.”

12 So then each of us shall give account of himself to God. 13 Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother’s way.
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Both Jews and Gentiles can be saved from hell by the same faith in Jesus Christ. But the Lord Jesus Christ considered Gentiles as unclean dogs and did not preach His gospel of salvation to them. He only preached to His fellow clean or law-keeping Jews. He commanded His apostles to not preach to the unclean Gentiles.
....... Only after most of His fellow Jews had rejected Him as their Messiah/Christ and killed Him, did Jesus Christ extend His gospel of salvation to the unclean Gentiles via apostle Peter and Paul.

So, for the unclean or mostly lawless Gentiles who believed(= Gentile Christians) via apostle Paul, God required them to begin their spiritual born-again baby lives by keeping 4 simple non-burdensome laws of Moses so as to do well on earth. Thereafter, they should gradually grow by learning to keep the other non-burdensome or essential laws of God. God liberated them from the burdensome parts of His Law, eg circumcision and kosher/clean foods.

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Err...in case you didn't know, I don't think any Christians would bow to any idols, sanction sexual promiscuity or drink blood, etc etc. lol.

Also read this verse 24....I wonder you actually bother to read what you copy and paste?


24 Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, “You must be circumcised and keep the law”—to whom we gave no such commandment


There you go, saying jewish believers have to adhere to the 613 laws...debunked.


QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Oct 13 2019, 11:05 AM)
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QUOTE(unknown warrior)
lurkingaround, you're telling us, something we already know.

Don't understand what you're trying to prove.

There are Christians who supports OSAS, as well as against OSAS, you're not the 1st.

What I'm trying to say is, your argument is nothing new.

I certainly do hope you don't think christians in here do not know anything, only you do. That would rather rudely arrogant.



God and His Word should be the One to decide the veracity of any Christian doctrine, eg OSAS, Calvinist Predestination, Hyper-Grace, Prosperity Gospel, etc, ie the truth is not decided by the subjective words, views, arguments or interpretations of denominational Christians. It is up to them whether they believe the Word of God or believe what is right in their own eyes. .......

HEB.4:11-13 = The Word Discovers Our Condition

11 Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience.

12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.
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2TIM.3:14-17 =. 14 But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, 15 and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
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EPH.6:16-17 = 16 above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God;
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Erm...yes God is the one who decide, NOT YOU, you're trying to play the role on behalf of God. And you're essentially trying to say, only your denomination interpretation is right, while others are wrong. So NOPE. This is not allowed as there are various denomination in here. If you say that the truth of the word of God is not subjected to denomination, i would say your understanding of the bible came from your circle of whoever you listened to.

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Nvm

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Good Morning fellow Christians bro and sis in Christ, now that those disturbance have died down, let us continue our fellowship.

Now that I think about it, I just created this new version thread, immediately got disturbance, sometime I wonder why I ask God. It's an indication of warfare. The devil knows there are many things God has in store for us that will bless our life.

I want to do a public testimony thanking God for answering my very recent prayer. I had a problem with one of my house hold equipment, I've engaged 2 people to repair it within the time span of about 9 months...it was okay for awhile but within a month the problem came back. This happened about 3-4 times in that span.

My family had to bear and suffer the problem of this equipment affecting our daily lives. Until I got down on my knee and prayed for deliverance.

Thanks be to God Almighty, the problem suddenly just solved by itself. Unexplainable. Even the guy whom I engaged to fix was at his ends wit, don't know what else to do. BUT GOD knew what to do.

I'm comforted to know God has said

...“I will never leave you nor forsake you.” (Deuteronomy 31:6)

I'll just leave this verse with you


John 6:37 (NIV) - All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away.

This God's Name is Jesus Christ, the only begotten son of God borne of the virgin birth. There are no other Gods for me and my household, we will serve the Lord. This God Jesus Christ answers prayers! We have an answer praying God, a living God, not figment of imagination or corrupted bible God as claimed by others.

This God is true to his words. Time and time again God has been with his people. This also comforted me to know sometime the words of Man are not important, people can say whatever they want but I'm not shaken by man's word for I know the God in whom I have believed in and live with.

God Bless dear friends, I hope this will encourage you to continue in your walk with Jesus Christ!

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 21 2019, 05:28 PM)
My father-in-law suffered a 2nd stroke last Friday (couldn't walk) and by today he has recovered tremendously (started to walk again but slowly) because God always answers prayers. The doctor was surprised that nothing was done after the 1st stroke, which also showed up in today's CT Scan.

My BP Monitoring device was registering Irregular Heartbeat occasionally but my father-in-law simply refused to believe the BP monitoring device.

This time around he was willing to go to the hospital so that appropriate medication could be administered.

Praise be to God forever and ever. Amen.
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Keep believing bro.
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Oct 23 2019, 04:36 PM)
You can add Discovery House Publishers :
https://dhdmalaysia.com/

Although i'm no baptist, but pantai baptist church have a history of good teachings. Can access their recordings here :
https://pbc.my/sermons-2/
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Adam was covered in the splendor of God's Glory

Psalm 8:5 (NIV) - You have made them a little lower than the angels and crowned them with glory and honor.

Morning guys.

When God created Adam and Eve, I believe they were not really naked in the literal sense. Psalm 8:5 helps us to understand when God created Man, He covered them in his Glory.

The word crowned in the Hebrew in this passage is "Atar" which means "To surround". And the word Glory is the word ". kabowd" which means "honour, splendour, glory, of external condition and circumstances". It is the same word many time referring to God's Splendor of Glory.

Adam & Eve had a covering of God's Glory. What is the revelation for today's devotion?

Jesus said in John 17:22 (NIV) - I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one--
Here Jesus is praying for all believers, ie you and I. God has (past tense, meaning already given, not a maybe or a perhaps) given you his covering of Glory. What is the application?

You have been united back to God with a covering of His Glory as Christians. If you look at the same passage in verse 6 & 7 of today's scripture verse it says

You made him ruler of the works of Your hands; You have placed everything under his feet: all sheep and oxen, and even the beasts of the field, the birds of the air and the fish of the sea, all that swim the paths of the seas.

The Lord has given you dominion dear friends. If you are feeling down and out, Rise my friends and know that God has got you covered! Today God's creation of every animal and creature and this world are in a fallen state, hence why even in the literal sense, we no longer have the dominion as Adam had over creatures as in the garden of Eden. However in today's life, you have God's backing and resources of Heaven given to you by grace. Whatever circumstance that you are in, know that you have God's Glory covering you, be encourage and get up! press on in your life!

God Bless.

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Repentance in the parable of the lost coin, lost sheep and prodigal son

Read entire chapter of Luke 15:1-31


We are all familiar with the word repentance. It is usually depict as being sorrowful or remorseful of your sin, crying and wailing over it.
But there is another aspect which many are not familiar with.

Today I will expound and share with you that you may be enlightened to know where we have missed it. Many times we can cry at the altar, be ok for few days but within weeks, we are back to square one and that is the reality with many of us. What is the revelation of repentance in this 3 parables?

If you read it from verse 1 to the end, you will find the lost sheep is not really the focal point or the key point. Look at who is the one doing the searching, the carrying, the loving and the celebrating? The main focus of the hero here is God himself.

In the parable of the lost sheep and lost coin, no where will you find this chest beating, being remorseful over the sin and YET Jesus mention about the word repentance in here. So what is being repented in here?

Well the answer is, the sheep or the lost consented to be found, consented to be carry by the strong shoulders of Jesus, and most IMPORTANTLY consented to be loved by God. THAT is repentance my dear friends. The revelation of repentance in this 3 parable is that you must consent to be loved by God to accept his love and that INVOLVES you 1st and foremost coming to God, consenting for God to receive you despite of your failures and flaws.

If you think about it...even in the parable of the prodigal son, God the Father did not allow that lost son to complete his rehearsed remorseful speech. He was cut off after he said " I am no longer worthy to be called your son.’....God the Father cut off his remorse sin speech by quickly gave him abundance of Grace by giving of best robe (restoring righteousness), ring on his finger (signifying authority as a son) and sandals on his feet, meaning He is welcome home, he has the right to step foot at the Father's house. Best of all the fattened calf was given ( restoring providence).

It seems that God is more concern that you come to him more than anything. Why? Because repentance can only happen with God's power in your life. You being so critical of sin or remorseful over it can only do so little but does not help.

My friends. Be repented that God is not out to get you for your sins but to restore you and to love you. Be like the lost sheep, consent to be carry by God, be like the lost coin, consent to be found and be like the lost son, consent to be loved!

God Bless.


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Can you stop your this trying to pick fight with people in here?


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Guys .....the main function here is to support each other, help one another and fellowship as christians.

I think you'd completely missed the point to think this is a platform to argue on theology. It is not.

If you want to share scripture, try to be more encouraging, one that spurs faith instead of diminishing it, pls don't exhibit prophet of doom.

We have enough of it, in the past. I want to change the environment in here.


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