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TSYveatel
post Sep 25 2019, 10:53 PM, updated 7y ago

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Dear Sifu,

My Honda City idsi 2004 model steering feels quite tight and sometimes "lock" in highway over a curve. I will not say it is entirely "lock", but more like you need some force to turn the steering back. Change suspension, disc brake and not sure what else I can do. Send to few mechanics and they did not know the issues. Tyre also change. The feeling is not as smooth as my other cars. Anyone got ideas on what is going on?
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post Sep 25 2019, 11:02 PM

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Where is your area bro? I can recommend mechanic specialize in this model
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post Sep 25 2019, 11:07 PM

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Hmm.. Check all suspension parts, jack car up and move tires at 9 and 3, and 12 and 6 to check for any worn parts. Or bring to reputable mechanic to check suspension parts. And does ur model use electric or hydraulic steering?
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post Sep 25 2019, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(asrul @ Sep 25 2019, 11:02 PM)
Where is your area bro? I can recommend mechanic specialize in this model
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Sg Buloh area
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post Sep 25 2019, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(SilentForever @ Sep 25 2019, 11:07 PM)
Hmm.. Check all suspension parts, jack car up and move tires at 9 and 3, and 12 and 6 to check for any worn parts. Or bring to reputable mechanic to check suspension parts. And does ur model use electric or hydraulic steering?
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will give it a shot on the checking.

this model use electric steering. I bring it up to mechanic on my suspicions on this but he told me if really this issue, then you will feel it will be totally very hard to turn
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post Sep 25 2019, 11:48 PM

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Front tire press low also can make the steering hard to turn
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post Sep 26 2019, 06:59 AM

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QUOTE(ledtechn @ Sep 25 2019, 11:48 PM)
Front tire press low also can make the steering hard to turn
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no, the pressure is good
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post Sep 26 2019, 02:44 PM

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Having same issue on my jazz idsi, it occurs occasionally at higher speed.

Tried moving my steering up and down and it is gone, suspecting something to do with the part that connects the steering and the motor.


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post Sep 26 2019, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(asrul @ Sep 25 2019, 11:02 PM)
Where is your area bro? I can recommend mechanic specialize in this model
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Can pm me the mechanic contact?
TSYveatel
post Sep 26 2019, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Sep 26 2019, 02:44 PM)
Having same issue on my jazz idsi, it occurs occasionally at higher speed.

Tried moving my steering up and down and it is gone, suspecting something to do with the part that connects the steering and the motor.
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yaya, now you mention, indeed it happens on highway and during fast speed.
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QUOTE(Yveatel @ Sep 26 2019, 07:21 PM)
yaya, now you mention, indeed it happens on highway and during fast speed.
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It does get quite annoying and a bit dangerous at time, but no EPS warning light or anything

So I just ignored it, since I don't travel long distance all the time
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post Sep 27 2019, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(Yveatel @ Sep 25 2019, 11:09 PM)
Sg Buloh area
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Try vmag motorsport in sri damansara sector B. Owner himself is part of cari city car club, and die hard honda fan.
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post Sep 27 2019, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(faridr @ Sep 27 2019, 01:10 AM)
Try vmag motorsport in sri damansara sector B. Owner himself is part of cari city car club, and die hard honda fan.
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thanks a lot. will go to him next week
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post Sep 27 2019, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(Yveatel @ Sep 27 2019, 09:02 AM)
thanks a lot. will go to him next week
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do update once you've got a diagnostic

Did any of the previous mechanic check your fuse ? Or you recently added accessories to the car ?
I suspect probably EPS issue if everything else ok (e.g fuse, tires, suspension parts, bushing)

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post Sep 27 2019, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(unitron @ Sep 27 2019, 09:06 AM)
do update once you've got a diagnostic

Did any of the previous mechanic check your fuse ? Or you recently added accessories to the car ?
I suspect probably EPS issue if everything else ok (e.g fuse, tires, suspension parts, bushing)
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will do.

No, the issue being more than a year already. Did not do anything when the problem started. Recently change suspension, tyres and brake plate, but issue still persist
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post Sep 27 2019, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Sep 26 2019, 08:43 PM)
It does get quite annoying and a bit dangerous at time, but no EPS warning light or anything

So I just ignored it, since I don't travel long distance all the time
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I always travel long distance, at times my hand feel some pain due to "struggle" with the steering.
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post Sep 27 2019, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(Yveatel @ Sep 27 2019, 09:09 AM)
will do.

No, the issue being more than a year already. Did not do anything when the problem started. Recently change suspension, tyres and brake plate, but issue still persist
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Ah.. i see... any of the mechanic connected a scan tool to check for error codes?
Modern cars nowadays, this would normally be the 1st thing you do.

If the EPS has an issue there may be a error code, but it wasn't serious enough to trigger the EPS light.
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post Sep 27 2019, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(unitron @ Sep 27 2019, 09:13 AM)
Ah.. i see... any of the mechanic connected a scan tool to check for error codes?
Modern cars nowadays, this would normally be the 1st thing you do.

If the EPS has an issue there may be a error code, but it wasn't serious enough to trigger the EPS light.
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no. Been to 3 mechanics for this issue, but none of them connect any device, more like "drive and feel". The car from 2004 have the board for connection? Previously my 2010 Mvi got ABS lights up, then my mechanic connect to scan tool. But for Honda city, he did not do so. Wonder he miss out or there is no place to connect
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post Sep 27 2019, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(Yveatel @ Sep 27 2019, 09:19 AM)
no. Been to 3 mechanics for this issue, but none of them connect any device, more like "drive and feel". The car from 2004 have the board for connection? Previously my 2010 Mvi got ABS lights up, then my mechanic connect to scan tool. But for Honda city, he did not do so. Wonder he miss out or there is no place to connect
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They should have since OBD ports are there since the 199x..

I used to have a 2005 City and currently own a 2005 Civic, and they both have OBD II ports.
2004 model year should have it... just look under the steering column. It should look like an extremely oversize VGA port.
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post Sep 27 2019, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(unitron @ Sep 27 2019, 09:30 AM)
They should have since OBD ports are there since the 199x..

I used to have a 2005 City and currently own a 2005 Civic, and they both have OBD II ports.
2004 model year should have it... just look under the steering column. It should look like an extremely oversize VGA port.
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thanks. I will send to VMAG next week and let them diagnose first. Instead of trying different mechanics which are a bit old school.
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post Sep 27 2019, 01:16 PM

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If your car equip with EPS than the culprit is Alternator or battery... For 2004 car my bet more on Alternator coz to old & couldn't support the current when it need.. If you stay in KL just pay a visit at this shop & ask pomen to repair & service your alternator.. Price not more than RM200.. One more, no point wasting time on scanning just for error code coz EPS (weak alternator & battery) wont trigger any code.

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post Sep 27 2019, 05:59 PM

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bro try to contacct this one.
padang jawa area. they are bunch of enthusiast who only accept city model.
price quite reasonable too
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post Oct 3 2019, 02:53 PM

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today send to VMAG as one of the bro recommend. Suspect the culprit is the steering rack, which the recon will cost RM 800++ and need a day to repair. The boss said many Honda face this issue.
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post Oct 3 2019, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(Yveatel @ Oct 3 2019, 02:53 PM)
today send to VMAG as one of the bro recommend. Suspect the culprit is the steering rack, which the recon will cost RM 800++ and need a day to repair. The boss said many Honda face this issue.
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I assume RM800 is including workmanship else it is a bit overpriced. BTW, how come the others didn't mention about the steering rack? Or they all checked and think it is fine?
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post Oct 3 2019, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Oct 3 2019, 04:23 PM)
I assume RM800 is including workmanship else it is a bit overpriced. BTW, how come the others didn't mention about the steering rack? Or they all checked and think it is fine?
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Not sure, but Google on the answers for problems on Honda - got many articles points towards the steering rack problems. The thing is whether it is worth the price to change. After all, I got target to get another used car (about 3-4 years old) car by next year. Currently looking at Aruz and BR-V.
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post Dec 11 2022, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(asrul @ Sep 27 2019, 05:59 PM)


bro try to contacct this one.
padang jawa area. they are bunch of enthusiast who only accept city model.
price quite reasonable too
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They are expert in City SEL ? Plan to clean my throttle body & MAF sensor on my City IDSI , many workshop refused to do it doh.gif
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post Dec 12 2022, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(kiTZss @ Dec 11 2022, 12:40 PM)
They are expert in City SEL ? Plan to clean my throttle body & MAF sensor on my City IDSI , many workshop refused to do it doh.gif
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MAF Sensor can be DIY cleaning it with using MAF Sensor Cleaner and youtube is your sifu if you wish to DIY , Throttle Body cleaning can ask VMag Honda specialist at Bdr Sri Damansara they can do it for you.
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post Dec 12 2022, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Dec 12 2022, 10:06 AM)
MAF Sensor can be DIY cleaning it with using MAF Sensor Cleaner and youtube is your sifu if you wish to DIY , Throttle Body cleaning can ask VMag Honda specialist at Bdr Sri Damansara they can do it for you.
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Can suggest any good honda mechanic at Klang area? KL is too far for me

 

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