Hi, anyone can share smart door lock brand, prices & quality. Planning to have it install on my unit for Air BNB purpose.
Thanks in advance

Was surveying for my own use, but in the end didnt go for it due to installed security door, but you can get a decent Yale for 1,700. And their name speaks for itself.

I myself am eyeing the getting the Samsung DR708 or DP738 at the moment but the prices are eye-watering TT

Samsung has good smart door locks, mostly digital but quite pricey. Quality should be good bacause big tech company

Thanks for the response. Need to buy a good reputable brand. No compromises.
Any installation issues?

Still need those old fashion grill before the main door??

Mind asking how pricey? 🤔

Mostly 1.5-2k bucks when you can get some other smart locks at 0.8k. Quality first

Oh okay.
Thanks,.

U pay premium price for good quality products 🙏

China brand can get 599 with finger print feature. But life span could b one off like buy n throw after 1 yr.

I'm selling smart lock include installation in KL, starting price from rm1300(taiwan).
yale(fingerprint &password) from rm1500, st guchi(card&password) rm1600. pm if interested.
offer while stock last

You're here at the right moment

tumpang thread.

How was the safety digital lock compared to traditional lock?
Only digital features, the safety(break-in) chances are the same?

got carry samsung DR708 or DP738 ah?

Interested with digital locks too.

However, I'm just curious as they are battery-operated, how do we open the door from outside if fully discharged? On normal days, we can probably monitor the power. What if i had to go oversea for 1-2 months, and the battery ran out before I am back?

if no battery can use key to open

https://www.yaleasia.com/en/customer-centre...tal-door-locks/

not carrying samsung in house, need to order.

pm if interested

I have install Igloohome deadbolt 2S ... so far so good ... no issue. You can use pin, bluetooth or key to open the door. You also can set pincode for your guest to open the door.

https://www.smartlockmalaysia.com/igloohome-malaysia/

How much including installation?

Bought for RM1300 include installation. If you interested I can PM you the contact details.

Anyone install digital lock on main door yet still install grill?

You still need to open main door for air circulation right??

I don't see the correlation between digital lock and grill

But then grill has to use normal lock? If no need to bring key out, just use smart lock fingerprint will be nice

Grill usually pair with normal lock. Never seen before grill with digital lock

Key is better than fingerprint

Well if u don't want to use key, u can use those pin padlock on the grill

Need wiring or not?? If only battery option, can last how long the battery?? Can ppl break in bypassing the password or fingerprint, bcos insurance only cover forceful break in...

The main reason im considering digital lock is no need bring keys, no need worries keys missing etc... But if still need grill need traditional lock, kinda defeat the purpose of having digital lock, at least for me.. Can grill put digital lock???

to me both also same, one crowbar mari and what lock also will fail
digital locks offers more convenience

Yale has digital locks for metal gates/grills

popular with airbnb operator. deadbolt lock.
1 year warranty. Made in taiwan
Comes with a free wifi dongle. price include installation in KL.
Can use phone app to control. pm if interested

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Kpop one should b fine gua. Below 400 n need look for installer.

yes please. thanks

hi how much is YDF40- Yale Tubular Deadbolt Lock including installation in KL?

Hi please check your PM box ....I have PM the contact details ... thanks

Usually the digital lock app will have battery level indication. If really run out of battery some digital lock have 2 method to open ... 1st option with the key and 2nd option use 9V battery or some use powerbank to connect to the digital lock to open then door.

that's reasonable.

PM please, bro thanks

nICE. PM me your contact
Might need it coming future

Hi .. please check your inbox ... I have PM the contact details

You can install digital lock at grille door too




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How does it work?

Nice... Had to reply this to keep for future reference.

I would assume it's the same as if installed on a "typical" door.. Fingerprint to unlock (from the pic).

Not every digiital lock brand/model suitable for metal grille door.

Once you decided on the model, you need to ask your grille contractor to do a panel for the digital lock base your digital lock model measuremnt.

nice to know about this, was thought grille cant install, but to make it more convenient have to install 2 sets ady (at entrance door and grille)

Normal grill with horizontal steel, big gaps easily expose all mechanical structure of digital door without a proper cover that what I thought.

Weld another piece of metal on the grille

That why I mention not all digital lock brand/model suitable for metal grille. You need to check with the seller and spec on the suitability. As far as I know Yale have digital lock for metal grille range

Yup.. The compatible part was a bit obvious.. one has to buy one that fits and securely too.. else, no point.. So i didn't think you'd be asking for that angle.. Thought it was more of a how the device works pov..

Yup..

This post has been edited by voncrane: Sep 26 2019, 01:35 PM

Nothing forget about that haha

I wish this thread will be more active and users who have installed them would give their personal reviews installing it there in malaysia

Same here, even though I won't be installing anytime soon..

I just realised some smart lock when you unlocked still need push the handle. I thought the mortised should be motorised or magnetic and will unlock/lock by itself.


This post has been edited by adamw: Mar 26 2020, 12:17 PM

Jumping in with a Personal review for own stay and not for AB&B type of Digital Lock approach...

Move over to Digital Lock and as usual did the normal research and whatever and to be honest nothing much there around to guide...

Mine was on a Fire-Rated Security Front Door and I opted for a Push Pull type. One thing I noted that so far there isn't any waterproof type of Digital Lock. The front mostly water-resistant while the rear mostly wont. As such I decided not to Digital Lock my Grill Door as water can be a major enemy to electronics. So be careful if wanna go digital if water is an issue. The Lock front can stand splashes of rain but the rear is questionable.

Secondly, there is so many type out there... so it can be confusing. Handle with latch, deadbolt only, Push pull.. This part you can read up and understand. The Lock will unlock digitally but you still have to unlatch it if its a Latch lock. Push Pull also a Fancy Latch Lock Combo. Then see what you want and budget.

If possible try to get it from a friendly Locksmith that is easily Contactable. Lot of people are on the DIY way nowadays but do note Digital Lock is not that easy to DIY or look up in youtube due to security reason. So better to have someone contactable if you run into problem. As there is so many type and brand with each to its own set of setting its better to have someone there to provide support if possible.

Securitywise, I opt for fingerprint and PIN only. Its just like keyless car. you carry everything on you. I opt not to use contact card and such as fingerprint and PIN cannot be stolen. This is up to you.... I prefer the way that things cannot be stolen from you. Fingerprint and PIN are the hardest to steal from you... hahaha

Batterylife, just keep a spare set of AA Battery at home. Most lock operate with AA Battery. If indeed dead battery there is the 9V battery way and override Key. Most people wont use the 9V battery way if you carry the override key with you. Just override the lock, go into the house and change the dead battery with the spare. Most of the time this wont happen as battery don't die suddenly. There is battery low indicator unless you so stupid to ignore.

Then the choice is yours, so many brand and type out there... then its your wallet to decide. Nothing if foolproof but main thing is Digital lock will save you the need to carry 1 key per lock. Still need to carry.. but no need to fumble with it.. carry as its for emergency use only... like the keyless entry car.. you still have a key that you carry for emergency.

Its something nice to have and its for you to consider. Just sharing my opinion and thinking.

Running out of battery power is really not a big problem unless you are really stupid and ignore the alert and doesn’t bother to check. That said after my lock malfunction it is always good to have a manual key override until the faulty part was replaced.

Mine has 6 access methods. Personally the finger print is the best imho. Usually they are accurate and fast. The Auto Unlock sounds good but works inconsistently. I strongly recommends people buy one with finger print access.

Get one with WiFi bridge. It is worth the extra $.

Just need to keep the square size battery if smart lock run out of juice to unlock them normally. they give the battery connection to unlock them in case

Wifi locks power consumption too high. Zigbee & Bluetooth Lock with gateway will be a better choice. I am trying to switch all my battery operated devices to Zigbee now.

I may sound paranoid, but I would advise against Wifi Bridge. Still prefer to be physically present to operate the lock via physical mean like fingerprint or PIN.
This being said, my review is mainly for own use where you most of the time will be operating the lock. Not AB&B where someone else uses the lock....
As for running out of battery, if you keep spare battery inside the home, no issue.. just use the key to open the door and replace the battery straight away.. no need to go get another 9v battery provided you do carry the key with you or stash it away somewhere within your reach.
Wow, 6 access method.. nice to have... As for me for security sake I disable those I do not use and only operate those I use.. so less chance of security breach with too many type of access....

I can see your points. Mine is g&g so my smart lock is mainly for convenient. Not easy for people to come into my small township.

For mine if my batteries are dead I can use a powerbank to open the lock or manual key. I deem powerbank troublesome so just keep a spare key with me.

WiFi bridge gives me the flexibility to check the status of the lock from anywhere. I can create users/temp users and grant one time access if I want to. I can also open my lock (in basement) from my kitchen or backyard one floor above where Bluetooth can't reach

good point if smart lock is more for convenient. for people that wanted more "security", please try to avoid bluetooth and wifi unlock feature. I work in software related industry. and i can assure you that a lot of the big, reputable company do make stupid security mistake, im talking about fundamental noob level mistake. Just go read the popular cases of "hack", it all happen because these big company do and will make stupid mistake.

For those of us who install the Digital Lock for home use (aka not AB&B or rent out) think mainly we are concerned of course with security while we also want the convenience. We also like the lock to look nice to match our nice door and such. We are the persons using the lock daily and of course we want it to work smoothly and at the same time provide us the sense of security we want. As such we only activate the function that we deem safe and manageable.

Those that uses it for AB&B and such, mostly will consider the cost vs convenience to them. Mostly they require remote access and control which to those of us that stays at the property do not requires as we are there to physically access and control it. So each to their own...

aihome have the aqara n100 for rm1099 including installation today
https://www.aihome.com.my/product/aqara-smart-doorlock-n100/

Here’s how I manage my AirBnB - initially wanted to install digital lock. Luckily I did not. Instead I went with this:

https://s.lazada.com.my/s.0fSZV

A simple combination lock that I put at my letter box. In it I drop my house and lift key for my tenant. This is so much better - no need to worry about Wifi, Bluetooth, battery, finger print, etc. Cheap and effective

Just change the combination lock PIN every few weeks

This post has been edited by knwong: Apr 2 2020, 01:21 PM

You are still on manual lock. First your combination lock can be cracked easily since only 3 digits. It is a cheap solution that may serve the purpose but unless you are arguing manual lock is better than smart lock it is not relevant here.

If you want most secured may be manual lock is still the best. But smart lock offers you convenient that you can't beat. In g&g environment it is just great without worrying too much about security beaches

Beg to differ. I see more downside in using digital lock:

1. Super expensive
2. Need to worry about power supply (battery)
3. Some model need internet connectivity
4. Need to educate tenant how to use the lock (waste of time)
5. Follow up from no. 1 - poor ROI

The thread starter asked for digital lock that's good to use for AirBnB so my argument is based on this alone. If you are debating on the merit for personal use, then you can justify with any personal reason I won't argue at all - to some cost is not an issue

There's no 100% foolproof in using locks. I'm a fan of LockPickingLawyer videos in Youtube. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm9K6rby98W8JigLoZOh6FQ

You'll find that lock picker nowadays are smart, they have graduate to cyber-thief. Digital locks also can be easily tamper with

This post has been edited by knwong: Apr 2 2020, 05:54 PM

What is super expensive? You can get those with simpler number pin code smart Lock for under 1k. Of course manual key is still cheapest if that's what you meant.

Power supply? Most can last 8000-10000 open/close. That's one year at least under normal usage. As far as internet goes you would think most ab&b will have internet service. Oh well if it is cheap ab&b then it will be basic and you won't need smart Lock anyway.

On educating tenant how to use don't you think people that travel around know how to use basic numerical key pad which is basic for smart lock?

There is no definite solution. It may work for you but if I were to do abnb for mid range to higher range offer, smart lock will work just fine

Let me share the perils of running homestay:

High end market is rare. I do get those Middle East, Datuk, politician tenant but no one will leave feedback that using manual lock is deal-breaker. If tenant lost a key I deduct RM50 from their deposit which is small income

When there’s power or network connectivity outage, you won’t want to come rescue your tenant in the middle of the night

When running a homestay business, keep the operation as lean as possible. Don’t go with fancy digital lock, 60 inch Flat screen, inverter A/C. Those are overkill

Take these serious advise for someone who has run homestay

My preference is outsource to "professional" that will run this thing for you. I would not want to do this on my own but that's a different topic. We used to get this guy that renovate the apartment and manage this for us. But luckily I decided to cash out before the market collapse and now the virus

Thanks for sharing sir, better to contribute with this than others who’s going to debate over nothing..

Btw have u use it? I’m thinking of installing n100 as well since most of my house & lights is pre-install with mi products already.

not yet, tempting to get this or if they import N200 even better.
it's a flash sales that day, don't think can get back that price now.
or maybe you can contact them and ask.

my house just started renovation, then MOC kicked in... stopped and don't know when can finish.
I also just bought those smart wall switch from taobao, especially the new one with 3 gang.
Plan to make smart house.

Thanks all for sharing. Very useful information in this thread to help me decide on how to ensure a secure and smart home.

I personally have installed deadbolt and mortise types of digital locks that don't use the internet. Here are the pros and cons of using digital locks I've used.

Pro:
1. Keyless.. No loss of keys, no keys locked inside, no visitors waiting outside because of no keys
2. Can generate the passcode without internet and without physically being there
3. Auto lock timer
4. Multiple passcodes - Permanent, One-Time, Timed, Recurring

Con:
1. If tenant is smart enough, he/she can factory reset the digital lock
2. Run out of battery

How to solve con:
1. There's a master key to open the lock
2. Can standby spare battery at premise

May I know the lock you opt for ?

Using Yale Push Pull Digital Lock...

which model ?

Now using the latest model, was using its predecessor... Yale only have one series of Push Pull Digital Lock if I am not wrong.

Do you know if there are any physical stores to compare and check out these locks?

Yale ada kat 1Utama new wing. Infront of sushi Zanmai.

I'm leaning towards SAMSUNG DH537

Isn't a lock only as strong as the door/door frame itself?

With that said, how much does it cost for a reasonably priced secure door with good hinges/strike plate ?

Been informed by a lock seller that Samsung is dropping this segment of business, means the after sales support might also be phased out slowly.

Suggested me to not opt for samsung but can go with other brand such as philips or schlage.

but i'm eyeing to buy it online from overseas, so much cheaper compared to local price.

installation fee i found is 250 bucks.

Do remember ordering from oversea incur tax for parcel >500

Also I find Philips and Kaadas has stronger lockset

This post has been edited by JasonTheGreat: Mar 24 2022, 04:46 PM

anyone used https://abrain.com.my/ before?
any reviews?

saw that they have grill smart lock

I was researching on this and found a lot ppl give good review / thumbs up on their FB Page. Probably incentivised, but seems okay so far.

Only issue I had with them is their showroom in Penang so got nothing physical to check and “test” build quality. But they got installer in KL so no worries on that.

I end up going with Avant smart/digital door lock instead since got showroom in KL (Mt Kiara) and overall combo pricing is cheaper than Abrain.

I got the main door + grill door combo for RM2299. There’s a member referral for Avant, discount RM50. Can pm me if you keen then I can pass you my name for the referral.

cool! will approach if opt for Avant

Hi, what exact Yale model did you get? I'm leaning towards a digital lock but a dumb one without access to internet or bluetooth/rfid/wfi/nfc which opens more doors for hacking.

Using Yale YMI70 but it does have Bluetooth & Card access. Wifi is a option with a saparate module. I did not get the Wifi module.

My main buying criteria then was the push pull. Look nicer without handle.

If you want security, think can just get those that have fingerprint or pin. Just dont enable Card, Wifi, Bluetooth. My Digital lock can have all this disabled.

Think with Digital Lock there is still risk.. just that you have to manage it.

I use only Fingerprint and PIN. These cannot be duplicated or hack easily.

Hi, may I ask does anyone use ITALUXE / KAADAS Grill Door Digital lock before?

I am deciding between

1. ITALUXE S60 - RM949 + RM20 INSTALLATION
-----> quite like their 'handle'


2. KAADAS RIM LOCK R6 - RM1388 include installation
-----> like this because of 'handle less'
no need worry the handle being spoilt lololol

Hi, May I know anyone here staying condominium which install grill door? Do you all install two set of smart door lock, one at grill door and another one wooden door?

Anyone heard/using estremo? Any comments on it?
Found it for 650 with installation. Seems to have all the usualf eatures + has 4 bolts.

Looking for a digital lock for my landed main entrance door, main purpose is just to replace the key. Will be using back the existing wooden door from the developer.

Budget around 1k and come across this one:

https://www.skiset.my/doorlock/product/e-35...ital-door-lock/

May I know if anyone is using this brand Skiset? How's your review? I know it's from China but if it's reliable then I don't mind the brand.

Or any other recommendations for 1k budget?

Thanks in advance.

I bought the Aqara one. Not yet install.

did anyone install xiaomi smart lock?

possible to get smart lock with rm1k budget?

i dont need fancy stuff like wifi,etc. maybe fingerprint + pin is enough

todays project. main door with digital lock install

Bro, you changed line? When free come help me installed my digital locks?
Definitely if you not so choosy on brand/outlook.

This post has been edited by adamw: Feb 10 2023, 08:02 PM

yea change line 4years ago from sit in office to wood workshop.
this project, i made the main door and the frame. customer bought the philips digital lock and installer came to install.

what do you recommend for not so high end smart lock?

Go shopee/Lazada check out what you have in mind, post the picture here.