QUOTE(Spitzer @ Oct 21 2020, 02:04 PM)
here's my opinion from someone who frequents trackdays
GRIP, the mythical properties everyone keep talking about, but to me it's completely irrelevant in the usual street.
Please, don't kid yourself - when was the last time you heard your tyre screeching while take a corner?
Or braking, most ppl thinks grippier tyre = better emergency stop, it's true to a certain extend, but most don't understand weight distribution, you need to progressively increase the load to your front tyre before it can handle such emergency stop. What happens to commoners when they want emergency brake? Well - in less then 0.5 seconds they just stomp on the brakes, and your ABS activated, which translate to even higher stopping distance(bad),. you don't want your ABS to activate in order to achieve maximal deceleration. Because of your technique, you've just disregarded your "grippier" tyre benefit as traction is proportionate to WEIGHT applied onto it, not surface area or wider tyre
The point is, performance oriented tyres for the streets are really of no substantial benefit to your everyday driver, unless you are someone who are used to semi-slicks tyres and knows and can feel instinctively your car's grip, most driver don't even come close to the limit of a basic well inflated, within operating temperature michelin primacy 4 grip.
For me, i use comfort oriented tyre for my daily/comfort/family car - because that car has <300hp and don't really have the hp/torque to break traction on every corner exit anyway.
Instead of choosing a tyre of safety, try driving safely instead of pushing into a corner on a rainy day thinking you got a PS4s and it's OK to do such things.
I emergency brake once...running on p7... t bone 3rd party front wheel by 6"... my 2 months old new car bumper bended clips broke... I think if running ps4 I'd probably stop with at least 1 feet to spare... 3rd party fault btwGRIP, the mythical properties everyone keep talking about, but to me it's completely irrelevant in the usual street.
Please, don't kid yourself - when was the last time you heard your tyre screeching while take a corner?
Or braking, most ppl thinks grippier tyre = better emergency stop, it's true to a certain extend, but most don't understand weight distribution, you need to progressively increase the load to your front tyre before it can handle such emergency stop. What happens to commoners when they want emergency brake? Well - in less then 0.5 seconds they just stomp on the brakes, and your ABS activated, which translate to even higher stopping distance(bad),. you don't want your ABS to activate in order to achieve maximal deceleration. Because of your technique, you've just disregarded your "grippier" tyre benefit as traction is proportionate to WEIGHT applied onto it, not surface area or wider tyre
The point is, performance oriented tyres for the streets are really of no substantial benefit to your everyday driver, unless you are someone who are used to semi-slicks tyres and knows and can feel instinctively your car's grip, most driver don't even come close to the limit of a basic well inflated, within operating temperature michelin primacy 4 grip.
For me, i use comfort oriented tyre for my daily/comfort/family car - because that car has <300hp and don't really have the hp/torque to break traction on every corner exit anyway.
Instead of choosing a tyre of safety, try driving safely instead of pushing into a corner on a rainy day thinking you got a PS4s and it's OK to do such things.
so for day to day driving...better grip can mean stop at the roadside...or stuck in a longkang otherwise
This post has been edited by dwRK: Oct 21 2020, 10:51 PM
Oct 21 2020, 08:55 PM

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