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darkterror15
post Sep 20 2019, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(fabianz03 @ Sep 20 2019, 10:40 AM)
Android OEMs is just jamming more battery and RAM to offset the lack of optimisation they do. So bottom line it really doesn’t matter.
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the best chipset, i give you the bionic a13. but the best optimization ? i dont think it will be iOS at all.

look how gary from android authority explain bionic chipset advantage over snapdragon. apple use very big chip for their bionic a13 compare to snap dragon counterpart so to achieve higher performance. if you have the best chipset and best optimization, then suppose in every daily stuff like opening apps, multitasking, caching apps and battery life, iphone would win all right ?

not in real life thou, all the speed test, battery life test, cache test, u can see iphone get beaten again and again and again, which tells u that, iphone has superior chip, but inferior optimization.

imagine this, android running in a13, that will be the best of both world.

btw years back when android introduce split screen multitasking (my galaxy note 4 has it), i also see a bunch of apple user say their phone can. but what they did is, open 1 apps, go back home, then open another apps, then called it multitasking doh.gif

ram is still ram, they are meant to cache the apps you are running so that it wont keep getting restarted once u quit it
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Sep 20 2019, 10:47 AM)
Agreed. To me especially after designing control system code where scan times and speed are paramount, it isn't spec that's the bottom line, but the compactness, the efficiency and the reliability of code execution as a package. 

No point in having a giant DCS server with 64gb of RAM running for dear life when I can achieve the same with some function blocks and 700 lines of ladder logic. Probably can do better if I could code in Assembly worth a damn, but ayam shit at it laugh.gif
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I have no idea what you’re talking about but I get the gist. Unfortunately people still think bigger numbers = better.
Same old like the days where people think higher MP = better pictures.
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post Sep 20 2019, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Sep 20 2019, 10:57 AM)
the best chipset, i give you the bionic a13. but the best optimization ? i dont think it will be iOS at all.

look how gary from android authority explain bionic chipset advantage over snapdragon. apple use very big chip for their bionic a13 compare to snap dragon counterpart so to achieve higher performance. if you have the best chipset and best optimization, then suppose in every daily stuff like opening apps, multitasking, caching apps and battery life, iphone would win all right ?

not in real life thou, all the speed test, battery life test, cache test, u can see iphone get beaten again and again and again, which tells u that, iphone has superior chip, but inferior optimization.

imagine this, android running in a13, that will be the best of both world.

btw years back when android introduce split screen multitasking (my galaxy note 4 has it), i also see a bunch of apple user say their phone can. but what they did is, open 1 apps, go back home, then open another apps, then called it multitasking  doh.gif

ram is still ram, they are meant to cache the apps you are running so that it wont keep getting restarted once u quit it
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The ‘tests’ you mentioned are not ‘real life’. They’re controlled tests that not all users may experience.
My experience so far with iOS is consistent, while with Android, not so much.
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QUOTE(fabianz03 @ Sep 20 2019, 11:00 AM)
I have no idea what you’re talking about but I get the gist. Unfortunately people still think bigger numbers = better.
Same old like the days where people think higher MP = better pictures.
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phone manufacturers always have restriction la, the camera area allowed is limited. with the same area, if u want higher pixel count, u sacrifice on pixel size, if you want pixel size you sacrifice on pixel count lo.

under good lighting, more mega pixels give you more detail photo, because all the pixels in it capture the light, with bad lighting your photo will have a lot of black dots because the pixel didnt capture any light.

for lower pixel count u can have bigger pixel size or sensor size, so that hopefully the sensor can capture the light.

then comes low light competition, conventional camera all use rggb sensor, red green green blue, but huawei went red yellow yellow blue because yellow allow more light to pass. but sometimes the photo turn out brighter but less color accurate.
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QUOTE(emburrar @ Sep 20 2019, 11:16 AM)
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which one ktard like?
inb4 samseng note 10 better
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look like apple win this time. apple got 512gb while huawei have 256gb.

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post Sep 20 2019, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(fabianz03 @ Sep 20 2019, 11:01 AM)
The ‘tests’ you mentioned are not ‘real life’. They’re controlled tests that not all users may experience.
My experience so far with iOS is consistent, while with Android, not so much.
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erm, you have to compare flagship with flagship. every apple phone is flagship, so for android side you must use flagship phone too. phones with less bloatware are like pixel phone and sony phone, phone with alot of bloatware are like samsung, lg, those.

take a clean android compare with a clean apple, you can almost find no difference. and even the highest spec of the android phone is 0.5 to 1 time cheaper than the top spec of iphone. plus due to competition android phone drop price very fast and u can get like 30-40% cheaper after 6 months of waiting. so why spend 6899 on iphone 11 pro max 512gb when u can spend 3000 only for note 10 highest spec after 6 months of waiting ?
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post Sep 20 2019, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Sep 20 2019, 11:15 AM)
erm, you have to compare flagship with flagship. every apple phone is flagship, so for android side you must use flagship phone too. phones with less bloatware are like pixel phone and sony phone, phone with alot of bloatware are like samsung, lg, those.

take a clean android compare with a clean apple, you can almost find no difference. and even the highest spec of the android phone is 0.5 to 1 time cheaper than the top spec of iphone. plus due to competition android phone drop price very fast and u can get like 30-40% cheaper after 6 months of waiting. so why spend 6899 on iphone 11 pro max 512gb when u can spend 3000 only for note 10 highest spec after 6 months of waiting ?
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If price is your concern then iPhone’s aren’t for you.

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post Sep 20 2019, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(fabianz03 @ Sep 20 2019, 11:19 AM)
If price is your concern then iPhone’s aren’t for you.
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sadly it is like 5% of the ppl dont look at the price tag when buying iphone only.

apple got like 10% + total smartphone market share only. some probably buy it because they wanna show off and not because they dont mind the price tag. so more or less 5% la i would say dont mind the iphone price tag. but also because these ppl that iphone keep raise their price because whatever they put, still got ppl willing to buy.

if you like to be ripped off, yea why not right
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Sep 20 2019, 11:25 AM)
sadly it is like 5% of the ppl dont look at the price tag when buying iphone only.

apple got like 10% + total smartphone market share only. some probably buy it because they wanna show off and not because they dont mind the price tag. so more or less 5% la i would say dont mind the iphone price tag. but also because these ppl that iphone keep raise their price because whatever they put, still got ppl willing to buy.

if you like to be ripped off, yea why not right
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Where did you get your 5% figure? Or did you make that up?
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when mate 30 pro come out i see the back is really round. looks like nokia 40mp one(dont remember the model).

but i am frustrated when i found out its still using the old formula of telephoto,normal wide, ar sensor.

why cant huawei or apple for that matter just focus on a single lens and make it a real 1 inch sensor ?

as long phones still uses inferior camera sensor, it wont go anywhere.

why come up with all these gimmicks of "night mode" and "software processing" bullshit when it can be solved with just a simple solution??

its simply physics. you need large sensor to capture more light. period.




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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Sep 20 2019, 11:11 AM)
phone manufacturers always have restriction la, the camera area allowed is limited. with the same area, if u want higher pixel count, u sacrifice on pixel size, if you want pixel size you sacrifice on pixel count lo.

under good lighting, more mega pixels give you more detail photo, because all the pixels in it capture the light, with bad lighting your photo will have a lot of black dots because the pixel didnt capture any light.

for lower pixel count u can have bigger pixel size or sensor size, so that hopefully the sensor can capture the light.

then comes low light competition, conventional camera all use rggb sensor, red green green blue, but huawei went red yellow yellow blue because yellow allow more light to pass. but sometimes the photo turn out brighter but less color accurate.
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you forgotten about technological advancement.
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post Sep 20 2019, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(cheongster86 @ Sep 20 2019, 11:40 AM)
when mate 30 pro come out i see the back is really round. looks like nokia 40mp one(dont remember the model).

but i am frustrated when i found out its still using the old formula of telephoto,normal wide, ar sensor.

why cant huawei or apple for that matter just focus on a single lens and make it a real 1 inch sensor ?

as long phones still uses inferior camera sensor, it wont go anywhere.

why come up with all these gimmicks of "night mode" and "software processing" bullshit when it can be solved with just a simple solution??

its simply physics. you need large sensor to capture more light. period.

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let me guess, you are not doing technical work right?
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post Sep 20 2019, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(ohman @ Sep 20 2019, 11:41 AM)
let me guess, you are not doing technical work right?
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48mp my ass.

that photo binning bullshit is just a gimmick.

its not even a real 48MP.
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post Sep 20 2019, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(emburrar @ Sep 20 2019, 10:16 AM)
[attachmentid=10317673]

which one ktard like?
inb4 samseng note 10 better
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post Sep 20 2019, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(fabianz03 @ Sep 20 2019, 11:32 AM)
Where did you get your 5% figure? Or did you make that up?
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erm, simple google gives you the apple share in smartphone is 11% globally, so minus those buying to show off, so i roughly estimate 5% that dont see the price tag lo. if buying to show off they still see the price tag, but they wanna show off so they think it is worth it.

11% is not small either because lets say the world population half of them have smartphone then 3.5b x 0.11 is 0.385b which is 385 million iphone users.

the rest is android and other OS phone users
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post Sep 20 2019, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(cheongster86 @ Sep 20 2019, 11:40 AM)
when mate 30 pro come out i see the back is really round. looks like nokia 40mp one(dont remember the model).

but i am frustrated when i found out its still using the old formula of telephoto,normal wide, ar sensor.

why cant huawei or apple for that matter just focus on a single lens and make it a real 1 inch sensor ?

as long phones still uses inferior camera sensor, it wont go anywhere.

why come up with all these gimmicks of "night mode" and "software processing" bullshit when it can be solved with just a simple solution??

its simply physics. you need large sensor to capture more light. period.
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single lens u cant zoom or wide angle or bokeh. so more lens for more function? plus sensor is the most expensive part of the camera, u willing to pay more?
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QUOTE(emburrar @ Sep 20 2019, 10:16 AM)
[attachmentid=10317673]

which one ktard like?
inb4 samseng note 10 better
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