Hi, hoping there are Ninja 650 owners here that can help me out with some questions.

I've been riding a Ninja 250 since 2012, and I finally sold it earlier this year. I've decided to upgrade and get a Ninja 650 in a few months, perhaps early next year.

1. How much is the average insurance + road tax for this bike?

2. How much more does the maintenance cost compared to a 250cc bike?

3. Finally, anyone here planning to sell their Ninja 650?

Thanks!

Hi,

There is a whole community of ninja 650/z650 owners.
And so far the bike has been really good. Now to answer your question

1. Roadtax and insurance will depend on your NCD and all and the package you take. It can range from RM800 to 1.2k for both

2. Normal maintenance surprisingly costs almost the same as a 250. But major parts like tires will set you back slightly more than a 250.

3. Yes, i think there are a few who wishes to upgrade will be selling. Search for their FB page and join the whatsapp group.

4. Just a side note, i ride a Z650

Thanks for the reply.

Do you have any gripes with the bike? Some reviews complained about the vibrations, but they differ about the degree of vibration.

What's your personal opinion of the bike as an owner?

Those complains were from ppl who has ridden bikes which are way above the price point of a 650. Personally, i have no issues with the vibration. Can go log distance about 150km or more before you actually feel the effects. Other than that it's nothing much. The engine is actually pretty smooth for a parallel twin.

to ride on this thread, i am planning to get one too. but any one knows if there is a lowering kit for Z650? the seat is kind of high for me.

z650 seat n shape is considered low n narrow.

unless u hv very short legs.



This post has been edited by basilisk: Sep 24 2019, 01:04 PM

If I'm being honest Ninja 650 isn't really a huge upgrade from a 250 (only your wallet needs to be upgraded). Get a triple/four cylinder, that's an upgrade.

This post has been edited by RalphRatedR: Sep 24 2019, 04:13 PM

How tall are you? It's already a low riding bike actually.

sometimes a person's leg length is not proportioned to their height. like myself im 170cm but inseam is less than 30inches, way shorter than others.

160 only.. combo with short leg lagi

Very true.... Short leg issues 😂

Riden a bike before? I actually have a few friends who are around that height but rides taller bikes. It's all in the experience and the one leg tip toe method. I myself am not tall too at 165 but comfortably able to ride the Z650. Even had no problems riding the bigger sibling the z900 as well.

Bro check some seller on mudah selling z650 2017 pre registered unit for 31k on road. Ping me if you need the contacts.

ok.. finally bought the bike, but the next day announce movement control..zzzz so cant get the bike yet..
just wanna ask, is z650 is high in thief list? i am living in condo, but the kind with shop lots at ground floor, so anyone walk into car park.

bike itself..no... calipers.... there was a z650 case i know of with attempted caliper theft...

so suggest u get them caliper special screws ASAP.

ic.. that is the only thing? or there are other stuff i need to take care as well?

the other usual stuff u can get oso like the brake lock, padlocks etc...up to u.

thanks for the advise!!

let us know when the side signals start to drop... many pply complain...

haha.. it is wobbly. looks fragile.

when he says drop.. he means break... its a kawasaki thing.. happens to alot of other models as well.

can use for now.. but be ready to buy aftermarket LEDs for longer lasting

ic.. will see how long it last after i get my bike.

my bike corner light broken when the bike got delivered to me

btw, what to look if bike cannot start? stand is up, battery looks good, but cant start.
the sound like car no battery sound when trying to start it. measure the battery voltage it is ok.

Try measuring while someone else tries to start the bike as well - it should not drop below 9.6v while cranking I believe (someone can correct me if I'm wrong). Or take the battery to a store to get it inspected.

How old is the battery in question?

fuel pump, or ECU.

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The battery is new though, sticker label is 2020 February.

when turn the key to on position, is there normally a sound?
like i heard that in my car when switching on.
but not really pay attention to the sound on the bike before.

This post has been edited by blackstar88: May 22 2020, 01:28 PM

Yeah, there should be a sound and the speedometer should sweep if it's an analog speedometer.

Worst case scenario, you will have to call up a Kawasaki workshop. If it was a battery issue, it would be a quick fix, but your issue sounds like something else.

ok.. at least that sound doesnt mean something is wrong.

need ask foreman come check.
you now whats the rate if ask them come to check, excluding part replacement?

Kill switch?

Few things that might cause this, but if u have measured the voltage and it is fine. Then might be starter relay or fuel pump. Anyway, I thought u just bought this? Just ask the shop guy to trouble shoot for u maybe?

1. turn on key, see if neutral light on? speedometer got activate? fuel pump got priming sound? engine killswitch is at on position?

2. what happen when press start button?
(a) totally no response at all, or
(b) got a "tik" sound and then it reset as if just turn on the key with speedometer activate and fuel pump priming sound? or
© starter got crank but engine cannot start at all?

Check your killer switch must be off at the right hand handle.

contacted the shop, says only can come after raya.. no riding on long holiday..

1. Light on, Speedo load normally. Not sure about fuel pump sound, but there are sound when i switch the key to on. the switch definately in on position.

2. it is ©. but not a real engine crank sound, more like some electronic sound, them speedometer restarts.

That sounds like you have situation (b). Most likely a spoiled starter relay. It is common in er6/versys but usually happen after few years of running.

If your bike is a new bike it shouldn't have starter relay failure. New bike within warranty, get the shop to fix it. If out of warranty, changing the relay is a simple job.

Not sure about current ninja650/z650, but previous er6/versys can just buy Yamaha nouvo starter relay cheap2, switch the contact pole and reinstall.

This post has been edited by andrewhtf: May 23 2020, 07:33 PM

sign of a weak battery, since the speedo restarted.

Just relax and enjoy the holiday then.. Since the bike just bought so better let them replace it for u.. Coz just took the bike, mostly they will warranty it.. Takkanlah just took 1 or 2 days also they don't wanna be responsible right? Anyway, I don't plan to do fun ride during this pkp/pkpb anyway.. Only ride to and from work.. Try to expose myself lesser outdoor..

thanks for all your advise, it is still under warranty, and i have asked the shop come and fix it. now need to wait them come only..

2 months after battery change, so far so good..
btw, do anyone can introduce/recommend good bike workshop in penang?
the place i bought my bike is too faaaaar away...
my bike is up for tyre and engine oil change.

Penang where? Island? Mainland?

both also ok.. penang is small...
i checked with taycon before, the price is on the high side, but service not so sure, never go there do anything yet.

Which Taycon? Different branch different pricing.

What tyre you mau?
You can also aim ShengFatt discount, usually post on FB.
Or, Planet Cycle Glugor.

Or, buy from shopee and get them fitted with balancing.

same company diff price 1 ah? i can go try again...
i try go ask the other 2 shop see..
thanks for the recommendation.

Taycon got few. Paya Terubong, Farlim got 2, Bayan Baru, Relau...
Racingmate also deals tyres.

thanks for the inputs.. i will go check them out.

which taycon is best ? i plan to get a bike from them soon.

What bike are you after? New or used?

I don't know all of them. I've been to Masjid Negeri, Bayan Baru, and Paya Terubong one. Not the Farlim or Relau one. Generally, to me and some of my friends, they are good. Test bikes and ECU check no problem. Some other frens do tell me they are occasionally cold, means don't layan or let you test ride. I think it depends on the timing and workload.

I'd say find the one closest to your home or office, get to know their foreman and the quality of their work.

Ok than I think bayan baru.
Looking for maxi scooter but no one have stock at this moment
But I might change my mind for another scooter (also no stock).

Bro u from penang riding a Z650?
I am from penang on kapcai thinking about CB500F, Z650 or a MT07 as my first bike. Really thinking about getting a used one if possible.
Can you comment on this Z650?

I chose Z650 mainly because of the seat height, so i can ride in city with better confidence, and it is my first bike too.
The height is more or less same like CB500F, but since both of them around the same price range, i took higher CC bike. The shop that i bought my bike, Z650 is cheaper than CB500F

Riding experience so far so good, been to a few longer trip, quite enjoyable. Riding in city also ok, smooth ride, but cant squeeze in between car like a kapcai anymore.
Not very torque-ky, so it is easy to handle. i think it is a good buy.

i would say all 3 bike in your list is all good first bike to start, if you have the budget and want nice exhaust sound can try consider CB650R, exhaust sound is a lot better cause of 4 cylinder, but price is a step up.

so in the end i go to el chong to change, bought michelin road5, rm550, cheapest i can find. but i also change other stuff la, so many there is some extra discount i think

160 size? Cheap eh... I'll keep in mind.

Thank you for your feedback. I am looking at Z650 specifically because of it low seat height. I am only 163 so low seat height is important to me

why scare of height ? u hardly need two leg stand la .... get familiar with bike than u no limit to bike choice.

There's nothing wrong with limiting bike choice to a certain height and playing it safe, IMO. Whatever makes the rider feel comfortable and confident so they can enjoy the activity.

This post has been edited by blackbox14: Aug 13 2020, 04:18 AM

Cz I don't have much experience with taller bike, even during B Full training I used Virago instead of ER6N.
Its is mostly mental I think, so definitely I need to overcome this. That's why I am looking for low seat height bike so I can get used to it~

Depending on what riding style you're looking for, among CB500F, Z650 and MT07, MT07 wins at speed, but comfort wise, I think Z650 wins. Which bike is your personal choice? Would it motivate you better to ride a bike that you like, vs the one you compromised for?

Riding school and JPJ exam requires us to stop with right foot on brake, and left foot down. Keep this in mind, so make sure you have no problem setting down your left foot. You can also consider some adjustments on a bike to make it lower.

no worry, u just need to get use to it than u will enjoy more, my friend is 150cm, she ride second gen gold wing with zero issue and love it.

Just bought my Z650 as my first bike. In case those with short height are wondering if the bike is good for short people. It is. My height only 153 cm but i can still tiptoe the bike with both of my leg. Usually i just use one leg la if i stop in traffic. The only con i had was when i tried to reverse the bike from the parking spot. Need to dismount first and pull the bike out. Other than that. Its quite an easy bike for short rider.