Guitars Things that we need to know when buying guitar
Guitars Things that we need to know when buying guitar
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Jul 5 2007, 09:03 AM, updated 19y ago
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Hello all the sifus here, i would like to know several tips and must know thing when come to purchase a guitar either acoustic and electric guitar. I am pleased to let the sifus list a some important matter when buying guitar
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Jul 5 2007, 10:20 AM
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If you're not sure how to choose one, bring along an experienced player to test the guitar for you. Maybe try searching the forum, I think this topic had been discussed before.
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Jul 5 2007, 10:27 AM
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I see. That is the problem. I don't have any friends that play guitar. Erm..but i do some research on the net for guitar for newbies. Electric ones should be Ibanez GAX70 but i am still not sure about acoustic guitar. Planning to buy second hand though because i want to learn. Any sifu can recommend me acoutic for starter?
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Jul 5 2007, 02:15 PM
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i'd say the gsz120 is a tad better then gax series. i dunno, maybe just me.
anyway, either follow quarantined's advice, or gamble on your own. the good part of having an experienced friend with you is he can tell a good guitar from a bad one. the bad, he maybe bias to certain brand in general, just pick the one with the sound that you like....with the best looks...and most importantly, the best feel to you. it's stupid to buy a flying V just because some artist use it although you are uncomfortable with the design. |
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Jul 5 2007, 02:26 PM
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I see. Actually i want to play eletric guitar but then i think i need to build my finger basic skill and strength with the acoustic as the the picking on the acoustic quite hard. What do you all think?
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Jul 5 2007, 02:32 PM
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get an acoustic first
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Jul 5 2007, 05:05 PM
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Hi dude,
Like a few of the previous posters said, its vital to have an experienced friend to go along with you when getting a new guitar. He can tell a lot of things that you will not realise about the guitar. The fact is, every guitar (even the same model) and especially the lower end ones cam be very different in playability due to the lower QC on those guitars. I've tried Squiers that was bad and some that plays really well for its price. 2ndly, what's ur budget. Its very important. 3rd, if ur a total newbie, it is not necessary to start with an acoustic but it depends on what u wanna play. If u wanna play the electric, by all means go get one. Cuz its a diff feel altogether. But it is true that by starting on an acoustic will give u more strength etc. 'Normal' beginners acoustic: 1. Kapok 2. Yamaha F210 'Normal' beginners electric: 1. Sx Strats 2. Squier Strats 2. Ibanez GIO series (i would recommend a non-floating bridge or u'll have a headache trying to tune it, and then an additional headache trying to keep it in tune) For acoustics, try to get a guitar that has relatively 'low' action (meaning the height of the string from the frets). If not i dread that u might give up playing the guitar because its too 'hard' to press. all in all, best advice here? get an experienced friend, or u just might get conned. |
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Jul 5 2007, 05:12 PM
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the ONLY thing you need to know.
never buy from mahogany, oh and ironwood too. |
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Jul 5 2007, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 5 2007, 05:12 PM) I'll include Bentley... Their prices are all crazy...but damn, they are the only retailers here for Fenders and Ibanez and Taylors and WTF else...Anyway, TS, the neck will be very vital, be it acoustic or electric. Try to slide your finger through the edge/side of it and if you can feel the frets hitting your finger, than that's a bad guitar. I once had a guitar like that and it really hurts to slide.. The neck must not be twisted or warped too. |
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Jul 5 2007, 05:28 PM
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Bentley not THAT bad, considering some of the items are almost the same price as their US counterparts.......
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Jul 5 2007, 05:53 PM
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it really boils down to what type of music you're into and what you wanna play...no point getting an acoustic when what you really wanna play is some good rock'n'roll
all i did was just pick up the guitar in the shop and play it. if it feels good, sounds good, price's good...then it's good to me |
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Jul 5 2007, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Jul 5 2007, 05:28 PM) Bentley not THAT bad, considering some of the items are almost the same price as their US counterparts....... well maybe you're comparing with guitar centre. One more thing I hate about Bentley, they judge their customers puchasing potential by looking at what you wear, what watch at your wrist etc. Once, I went there with slippers and shorts and I asked to test their top end acoustics... That Chinese faggot gave me that kinda stare..F*CK HIM TS, keep out from Mahogany or Bentley For me, the only shop in Malaysia worth considering is Sinamex although I haven't buy anything from them |
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Jul 5 2007, 06:13 PM
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bentley have got the WORST ever sales people.
if you're good, you can sell any product without knowing much about them. but no, the bentley staff all cant talk, cant serve, cant do jack shit. |
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Jul 5 2007, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 5 2007, 06:13 PM) bentley have got the WORST ever sales people. If you go down to Mahogany SS2 it will be the direct opposite compared to Bentley.if you're good, you can sell any product without knowing much about them. but no, the bentley staff all cant talk, cant serve, cant do jack shit. I bet those people there can sell A Refrigerator to Eskimos. So, Beware! |
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Jul 5 2007, 06:27 PM
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Hmmmmmmm...... Maybe it's because I bought an RR3, EMGZW Pickups, Wylde Wah and a Digitech Whammy from Bentley which is why they treat me so nice........
That and because I always pay with my Plat Master...... RR3......Rm2400 EMG ZW Pickups..... RM650 Wylde Wah...... Rm650 Digitech Whammy.... RM900 EXCELLENT customer service? Priceless. There are some things money can't buy. For everything else, there's Mastercard..... |
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Jul 5 2007, 06:49 PM
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i don't have much problem with bentley's staff. maybe i'm just too blunt to notice their behavior?
TS: i guess the safest way is to bring your friend along or do research...but do remember every guitarist have different style, so their taste in guitars are different. |
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Jul 5 2007, 07:14 PM
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went to bentley a few times....service there is ok la....nothing special....worse wan is woh fatt...service like a$$ only....1k+ guitar oso dun let ppl to try....summore say not buying kennot try....mahogany's service is very good...consultant there is very friendly n helpful...but price is sky high.....
as for choosing acoustic guitar....go for a yamaha....zero neck adjustment....fret everything is clean....n it's quite cheap |
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Jul 5 2007, 09:12 PM
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i think the acoustic is unnecessary if you want to buy it just to strengthen your fingers. an electric guitar can do just that too.
as for staff... mahogany people really know how to chop you, know how to talk all kinds of shit. bently.. the fella follow you close close if you wear cheap cheap clothes and anything you want to touch they will try to stop you and go "yess can i helps you?" but many shops also like that so.. |
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Jul 6 2007, 01:54 AM
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Don't bother to start from an acoustic if you only interested in an electric. The cheap but good package for a starter that I can recommend you is a SX Tele or Strat (available in Woh Fatt for RM480, but should be less) + a Roland MicroCube guitar amplifier(can get from Bentley at RM380). Ask them to throw you a bag, guitar cable, picks, strap, strings, picks and whatever you can think of. Buying second hand is actually a good option as you'll be able to buy a better build guitar which can serves and satisfy you longer than a cheaper axe at a lower price, but beware of dishonest sellers lo..
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Jul 6 2007, 10:52 AM
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Personally I think Rhapsody in Midvalley has good customer service, but their price is expensive.
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Jul 6 2007, 05:28 PM
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Jul 6 2007, 05:55 PM
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Jul 6 2007, 06:30 PM
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Jul 6 2007, 06:33 PM
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Jul 6 2007, 07:47 PM
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Jul 6 2007, 07:51 PM
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bentley's 2-3 months is just their minimum wait time for their next shipment.
wonder why u didnt check other places, cos for sure bentley isnt the only place that stocks ritter. |
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Jul 6 2007, 08:27 PM
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Well I tried some other music stores but they just dint bother to order one for me.
All they said was: No stock. Try Bentley. |
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Jul 7 2007, 09:51 AM
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I have brought acoustic guitar to train and pratice. Damn hard but will not give up. Passion for rock n roll is still there.
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Jul 7 2008, 01:31 AM
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gudluck in your playing dude..
cheers..=D |
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Jul 7 2008, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 5 2007, 05:12 PM) Hi,Same ere 4 mahogany.Cutthroat price. @Everdying:Can pls tell me y dun buy from Ironwood ar? Wanna get BC Rich guitar from them coz they'r the only dealer ere. Elsewhere i only saw at Rhapsody.Goin 2 buy new guitar soon. Pls Cheers... |
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Jul 7 2008, 08:57 PM
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Jul 7 2008, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(crysania @ Jul 7 2008, 09:34 AM) Hi, i think chambers in sungei wang also have a few bc rich.Same ere 4 mahogany.Cutthroat price. @Everdying:Can pls tell me y dun buy from Ironwood ar? Wanna get BC Rich guitar from them coz they'r the only dealer ere. Elsewhere i only saw at Rhapsody.Goin 2 buy new guitar soon. Pls Cheers... u can go check and compare prices. chambers has quite a few old stock guitars there also, some like the epiphone wildkat still there... just like woh fatt with their gibson old stock thats been there for 10yrs... |
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Jul 7 2008, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 7 2008, 10:06 PM) i think chambers in sungei wang also have a few bc rich. NOS mou....u can go check and compare prices. chambers has quite a few old stock guitars there also, some like the epiphone wildkat still there... just like woh fatt with their gibson old stock thats been there for 10yrs... |
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Jul 7 2008, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 7 2008, 10:06 PM) i think chambers in sungei wang also have a few bc rich. Hi,u can go check and compare prices. chambers has quite a few old stock guitars there also, some like the epiphone wildkat still there... just like woh fatt with their gibson old stock thats been there for 10yrs... I think i hav mistaken Rhapsody for Chambers.My mistake..SORI I did checkout Chambers few days back, but tis guy from Ironwood said he can giv better price. Around RM400++ cheaper compared 2 Chambers.Might b bcoz they r the dealer for BC Rich. Never been der,jus call them.So was wondering if Everdying has any story regarding Ironwood lo.. Cheers... |
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Jul 7 2008, 10:53 PM
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not only me...but everyone
when ironwood first got the bc rich dealer iirc about 7yrs ago...i was eyeing the acrylic series...they were selling it for close to RM3k. previously bc rich was doremi...and it was RM1.8k... funny how price can jump so much within a month or so... when ask ironwood why...well typical mahogany/bentley sales pitch...cos it was better quality... better quality my ass...cos theres only 1 model for it. This post has been edited by Everdying: Jul 7 2008, 10:54 PM |
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Jul 7 2008, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 7 2008, 10:53 PM) not only me...but everyone hmmm... i think i saw one of those acrylic bc rich guitars at cash converter ampang... was going for rm1800... a bit high for second hand guitar but i think can tawar2 one... the color was bright fluorascent green though... reminded me of the predator's blood... when ironwood first got the bc rich dealer iirc about 7yrs ago...i was eyeing the acrylic series...they were selling it for close to RM3k. previously bc rich was doremi...and it was RM1.8k... funny how price can jump so much within a month or so... when ask ironwood why...well typical mahogany/bentley sales pitch...cos it was better quality... better quality my ass...cos theres only 1 model for it. |
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Jul 7 2008, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(hotfootpowder @ Jul 7 2008, 11:05 PM) hmmm... i think i saw one of those acrylic bc rich guitars at cash converter ampang... was going for rm1800... a bit high for second hand guitar but i think can tawar2 one... the color was bright fluorascent green though... reminded me of the predator's blood... cash converters another one with dumbass ppl there u bring in a beat up branded guitar and confirm it will get less than a brand new looking no name guitar. |
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Jul 7 2008, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 7 2008, 10:53 PM) not only me...but everyone Wow i'm eyeing the acrylic series too.The Ice warlock.So tempting. when ironwood first got the bc rich dealer iirc about 7yrs ago...i was eyeing the acrylic series...they were selling it for close to RM3k. previously bc rich was doremi...and it was RM1.8k... funny how price can jump so much within a month or so... when ask ironwood why...well typical mahogany/bentley sales pitch...cos it was better quality... better quality my ass...cos theres only 1 model for it. Damn,so much price difference between doremi n ironwood ar. But the price was 4k++ in Chambers few months back when they still hav d stock. But now no more liao,only the acrylic mocking bird. As for the quality,agree with u everydying:i doubt the sales person knows any shit bout it. I only know its more heavier than normal warlock.Should b around 7kg..i'm only guessin Btw,thanks 4 d info. Cheers.. |
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Jul 7 2008, 11:38 PM
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chambers had it for 4k++? u sure?
maybe the took stock from ironwood actually the only guitars i go see in chambers are the mini ones. they have mini sx guitars and bass, mini acoustics. and they sell fast. |
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Jul 8 2008, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 7 2008, 11:38 PM) chambers had it for 4k++? u sure? Yup,thats right..4k++..Very sure coz i ask for d price.Interested mah. maybe the took stock from ironwood actually the only guitars i go see in chambers are the mini ones. they have mini sx guitars and bass, mini acoustics. and they sell fast. Ur guess is as good as mine.Definitely from dealers. Thats'y was shock when enquire pricing from ironwood.Big big difference. But if Deadeye could get cheaper,definitely buyin from him. Mini ones do sell fast mayb coz hard 2 comeby elsewhere. Mayb cheaper n affordable..Only guessing Cheers... |
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Jul 8 2008, 03:07 AM
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heres one on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/BC-Rich-Acrylic-Series...1QQcmdZViewItem i doubt it will sell for more than USD500. |
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Jul 8 2008, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 8 2008, 03:07 AM) heres one on ebay. Wow,cool... http://cgi.ebay.com/BC-Rich-Acrylic-Series...1QQcmdZViewItem i doubt it will sell for more than USD500. Eyeing the ice warlock rather than other colour.But still cheap compared to ere. Btw,any idea how much it cost when it 1st came out?Jus wanna compare it to the recent price. Dun seem 2 hav any site that show these. Cheers... |
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Jul 8 2008, 03:12 PM
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guys...i gonna get a new acoustic guitar next month...i juz wanna make sure how do you check the guitar iz gud or not...? i meant by...do you need to check every fret...does it sound nice or cacat....how shud i check the bridge and the headstock?? whut shud i looking at for any possible defect?
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Jul 8 2008, 05:37 PM
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check everything from head to toe
and make sure u play with it,see it suits ur feeling or not. any small flaw mayb cause u (at least it will look abit ugly compared to a mint one ^^ ) |
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Jul 8 2008, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE(crysania @ Jul 8 2008, 01:28 PM) Wow,cool... thought i mentioned doremi was selling it for RM1.8k then.Eyeing the ice warlock rather than other colour.But still cheap compared to ere. Btw,any idea how much it cost when it 1st came out?Jus wanna compare it to the recent price. Dun seem 2 hav any site that show these. Cheers... so US probably around $400? |
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Jul 8 2008, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 8 2008, 06:01 PM) Sori,slip my mind..Back then was RM1.8k.Wish i knew bout it sooner back then. I call doremi (jln ipoh)in the afternoon, unfortunately they dun carry BC Rich anymore. Guess hav 2 scout around 4 better price then. Cheers... |
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Jul 8 2008, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(crysania @ Jul 8 2008, 10:22 PM) Sori,slip my mind..Back then was RM1.8k. or u could custom make one Wish i knew bout it sooner back then. I call doremi (jln ipoh)in the afternoon, unfortunately they dun carry BC Rich anymore. Guess hav 2 scout around 4 better price then. Cheers... there is someone in shah alam offering acrylic bodies for RM650. only thing is u need to bring a body for him to scan so can copy. |
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Jul 8 2008, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 8 2008, 10:29 PM) or u could custom make one Woa..that's new.there is someone in shah alam offering acrylic bodies for RM650. only thing is u need to bring a body for him to scan so can copy. Bring guitar body to scan huh? Any idea how they do it? Could u pm me their contacts pls. I hav a red warlock so mayb tempted 2 do it in the future. Cheers... |
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