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post Jan 28 2020, 04:36 PM

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As expected, my US based ADR Chinese/HK stocks dipped about 10% when the US market opened yesterday.

I'd expect my HKEX stocks to take a beating tomorrow when HKEX opens for trading as selling pressure continues as every market worldwide seems to risk-off fleeing to safer havens.

Coronavirus is really a black swan event, I do not think it's the right time to buy the dip...as China has finally admitted that the virus is 'out of control' despite the extraordinary measures taken i.e. lockdown from one city to more than 15 cities with maybe more to come; and death has raced past 100 mark.

Wuhan Mayor informed that 5 Million residents have left Wuhan before the lockdown and with the virus spreading from human-to-human without any symptoms, I guess we can expect domino effects in the coming days ahead unless vaccine is found or developed. Even WHO has admitted it was a 'mistake' in assessing the risk of virus, upgrading from moderate to high doh.gif

On the other hand, two local gloves stocks which I have purchased have increase more than 10% & 20% respectively, that my consolation for now, otherwise all my current holdings are in the red.

I'd expect gloves and masks manufacturers stocks to increase further with the outbreak...google Kawamoto stock % increase which produce surgical masks

I think it is more straight forward to buy disposal medical stocks(gloves/masks/etc) compared to pharma stocks as there is current no known vaccine yet. I observed that some of the Chinese pharma stocks rallied initially and then pulled back sharply when it was made known that there is no known vaccine yet. Anyway there will always be momo crowd who will ride on the biotech/pharm stocks...


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post Jan 30 2020, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 30 2020, 12:25 PM)
Wahh, bro,.. to your first paragraph in the above,.. you need to 'jaga' everyday,... but I respected your initiative in wanting to invest.  :thumbsup:

To yr second paragraph, yeah,... I am of the same opinion. I can't bring myself to investing into HK REITs because of :-
1) all payout only twice per year.
2) yields are not so good compared to SG REITs, especially the popular Link REIT.
3) forex risks when I wished to take back my funds in SGD.
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Don't buy reits in HK, so many value and growth stocks to choose later.. Now alot of HK stocks on sales with the HSI dropping 711pts to below 26k5.
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post Jan 30 2020, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Jan 30 2020, 10:09 PM)
later? when??
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When the market gives out indications AND confirmations of trend reversal from TA point of view biggrin.gif
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post Jan 31 2020, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Jan 31 2020, 01:24 PM)
Good China PMI numbers.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/31/china-econo...or-january.html

Hk market should be rallying now if not for the virus.
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Thanks. The article mentioned that the data compiled before the outbreak.

It will be interesting to see how the market reacts when Chinese market with extended closure, opens for trading on 3 February. It's the Chinese companies that have been advised to postpone their start of business operation.

Edit to correct Chinese market is still set to open on 3 feb.

This post has been edited by markedestiny: Jan 31 2020, 10:06 PM
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post Feb 5 2020, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(apathen @ Feb 4 2020, 10:18 PM)
reason why i said 8 securities suit you now because you have hk bank account and remittance fee is not an issue and you are there now to sign the document best to open account now even later you work in SG also still can use, and you are still beginner with little capital, free fee can help you save a lot while learning. You don't have to buy hk share if no confident, but this is one of the few ways that you can buy china-h share direct. If you cannot trust hk securities commission then nothing to say, none of their licensed brokerage are safe then. No right or wrong, the choice is yours.
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8Sec now is free of fees effective 1st Feb 2020 based on the email which I received recently.

I have opened this some time back but have not fund this account due to its strict requirement of having to use bank to transfer and receive funds and I don't have a local HK bank.

Therefore unless you have a local HK based bank, using a Msia bank for this account will incur higher transfer cost on top of unfavorable exchange rate by the bank.
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post Feb 5 2020, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Feb 5 2020, 10:59 AM)
so HSI is better than HK REITs?
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Yes, there are many HK/Chinese growth stocks so I dont prefer HK Reits... yet... biggrin.gif

DYODD
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post Feb 10 2020, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Feb 9 2020, 07:09 PM)
Interesting to see market this week.

China slowly coming back to work. NCoV death has exceeded SARS, but infection rate seemed to have peaked last week in China. Will infection spike again..
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Nope, there is no official news that the lockdown has been lifted so China is not slowly coming back to work, now postponed until early next month.

Also China's trade/economy data for Jan has been pushed to Feb, no 'visibility' ahead on the impacts for two months (but can expect not so positive data).

If the pandemic is under control, most probably we could expect the two months data in March earliest...anyway, the closure of one quarter in China being the key supplier would not bode well globally..
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post Feb 17 2020, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Feb 16 2020, 01:22 AM)
will this affect HK REITs?

HONG KONG, Feb 12 - Some shopping mall landlords in Hong Kong, including Sun Hung Kai Properties, the city's largest property developer by value, are offering relief measures such as rental concession to their tenants during the coronavirus outbreak.

Sun Hung Kai Properties, who owns major malls in some of the local districts that host international fashion brands ranging from Coach to Zara, said on Wednesday it would reduce February rent by 30-50% for most of its tenants, in an effort to stabilize economy and protect employment.

https://www.todayonline.com/world/hks-sun-h...-retail-tenants
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Some malls in HK has reduced rentals significantly to assist their tenants in view of the drastic drop in retail and also visitors to HK..so maybe affected, perhaps from short up to mid term if the virus pandemic is not resolved..
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post Feb 26 2020, 02:32 PM

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Hong Kong unveils stimulus package with cash handout

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regional/20...th-cash-handout

Hmmm helicopter money drop...

Risk in mind now, will HKD-USD peg hold? Dire consequences if not..
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post Mar 9 2020, 11:01 AM

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HSI is currently breaking below 26, now 25!
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post Mar 9 2020, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Mar 9 2020, 11:23 AM)
so time for tracker fund and 10¢?
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I am only stating what I am observing right now, it's not a call to buy the dip biggrin.gif or any recommendation.


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post Mar 9 2020, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Mar 9 2020, 11:52 AM)
I have received All-Time Low triggers on HSBC in the last few trading sessions.
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Hansel, yes I saw it is trading at its 3 yrs low, at less than 50, now 49ish...

Despite the virus, HK ppl still went out to protest recently doh.gif


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post Mar 9 2020, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Mar 9 2020, 12:01 PM)
Hmm,... I saw the same phenomenon with Aussie banks when I invested into the ASX a few years ago. Kept dropping and dropping till today.

Yeah,... the protests,...
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Yes indeed, Aussie Banks are not in good shape now too... Oz depends on China too much
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post Mar 9 2020, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Mar 9 2020, 03:41 PM)
Low oil price is actually a form of stimulus for China, being a net importer of oil. So can add this to all the other stimulus measures which are in place or going to be introduced.
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Sure when China recovers, its demand for oil will increase. Ironically, it's the reduction in demand from China which led to the OPEC negotiation.

Now, with both Saudi and Russia on all out price war, it's the test of fitness of survival for those affected especially smaller oil producing countries..

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post Mar 10 2020, 11:39 AM

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We can expect more desperate stimulus from the CBs sooner
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post Mar 13 2020, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(markedestiny @ Feb 26 2020, 02:32 PM)

Risk in mind now, will HKD-USD peg hold?  Dire consequences if not..
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With the USD in shortage, would the USD-HKD peg still hold? Any thoughts on this?


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post Mar 13 2020, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Mar 13 2020, 01:41 PM)
USD in shortage? they can just print money, no? Can QE.
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Demand exceeded their speed of printing.


https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/market...ow/74594981.cms
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post Apr 16 2020, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Apr 16 2020, 02:23 PM)
Highest borrower to SG largest oil trade company which is in trouble now
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The 3 largest banks in Spore in the same boat?

Edit; found the news article

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/banks-freeze...-222443389.html

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post May 5 2020, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(simplylegendary @ May 5 2020, 04:59 PM)
Hey man, just checked my China bank account (which I have not used for ages), apparently I can buy direct into their "ETFs" even though I don't own a brokerage account in mainland China.

They call it ETFs but it fact it is a fund but their allocation includes shares, I've taken a screenshot of one of the "tech / new economy" funds. And obviously you need RMB and a China bank account, so not the most practical, if you read Chinese here goes, just for fun.

The expense ratio is pretty high though. 2.5% to buy and 0% to sell if you hold it for over 730 days.
If you have a China bank account, can consider signing up for Sofi, formerly known as 8 Securities, which is based in HK. Free unlimited stock trading but some charges still applies.
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post May 22 2020, 01:15 PM

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Hong Kong leads Asian shares lower as Beijing readies new security law


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-m...usiness+News%29

With China hardening its grip onto HK, expect more volatities ahead besides the renewed US-China trade spat...

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