Hard to find somebody in this forum who has same opinion as me...I totally agree with ur point...no matter how u adjust and tune the equalizer, the mid range wouldn't give u what u want...if u let the midrange facing u, u will get ready to become deaf, because the mid high(like electronic guitar) will make ur ear very paintful...

my recommended:
RM150-250: Altec Lansing ATP3....Eacan A200...
RM250-350: Eacan A-600II--look very similar to Altec Lansing MX5021,especially the subwoofer unit...50W??sound good...
RM500-600: Altec Lansing MX5021, 90W(of course, i am using currently)...low hum bass at 40hz-60hz, satellite need some equalizer tuning(don't worry, the midrange and high is still under user control)...

not recommended:
logitech Z2300...same price as MX5021, 2X powerful than MX5021, but no midrange sound at all....
altec lansing VS4121...totally unbalance sound....
Sonic gear blue thunder 3....BT2 better than BT3...

all units above are all in 2.1 configuration, if ur currently used speaker is in the "not recommended" list, please don't feel angry, because is only my tested opinion, if u feel good, thats all right, please don't shoot me.....

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Added on August 14, 2007, 2:31 amHere i share my limited experience with reader seems like many user are look so serious about the bass response when choosing speaker....buyer always trusted the Spec listed by the speaker manufacturer, especially the bass response, many speaker in the price range from RM200-RM400 claim that the bass response as low as 30 or 35hz...but actually not...go to download sony sound forge 8 or 9 (if no money, just cxxxk it only) from www.sonymediasoftware.com and generate the sine wave from 30-100hz to test ur speaker, u will exactly know ur speaker bass response...here i give rough idea who had listen to those speaker before... Altec VS4121 and ATP3 strong bass response from 60hz-100hz, below 55hz silent dramatically...Altec MX5021 bass response strong at 40-65hz, 30hz-40hz still can hear it, exactly the spec claimed...others test urself if interested...u also can save those sine wave as MP3 or other format and put inside ur MP3 player (good quality MP3 player is needed, bcos ayam brand player almost cut off frequency lower than 60hz), so u can test the speaker bass response at the PC shop before u buy...recommended test frequency are 30Hz,35Hz,40Hz,45Hz,50Hz,60Hz,70Hz,80Hz until 100Hz...so if u find that this opinion is totally useless after u read it, just ignore it, and please don't shoot me...

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yes la, but if want to test at shop before buy, u also need to save inside the portable player wan...

two mid drivers place in one satellite actually not a weird design, Altec Lansing MX5021 and Eacan A600 also like that, but the sound quality is totally different from BT3, such design has advantage, it can produce a clear and high charity vocal if it is designed in the right way, but also can spoils the whole system if it sounds bad, even a single midrange only(like Altec Lansing VS4121)...i want to buy BT3 before because the design look attractive,the size is big and the woofer is heavy and wooden, but after i heard it, i found that it not sounds as i expect..............about the crossover u stated, i think u probably couldn't find crossover in any PC speaker satellite, because almost all PC speakers use "active crossover" instead of "passive crossover".

Passive Crossover using the resistor-capacitor-inductor (RLC circuit), it using those component characteristic to filter the sound frequencies, it only low down certain frequencies level without cutoff completely, so it usually sounds more nature in default, this kind of crossover can easily found in most 2.0 home stand speaker, but this crossover normally is heavy in weight and consume a lot of space, so PC speaker normally using active crossover instead of passive one... active crossover is using the IC to set the crossover frequency of the driver, this kind of crossover windy used in PC speaker because it can cutoff high and low frequencies completely so that the woofer unit only produce the bass sound and pass the mid and high to the satellite driver, but it leads to another problem, many PC speakers found that the existance of crossover gap, which means certain frequency is very weak due to over filtered, it probably due to its own design problem and the material characteristic of the driver, so normally PC speaker need to tune the equalizer to compensate those weak frequency band.

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Ya, i know what u are talking about... i am talking about crossover inside the satellite...because u said u feel pity when u open the satellite, "NO CROSSOVER and ALL LOOP THROUGH, except 1 little capacitor for the top tweeter".....don't so surprise, you wouldn't find crossover in any PC speaker satellite one...

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Aug 19 2007, 01:23 AM

Altec V4121 not good la, bass overwhelming with "cloth-covered" midrange sound....Edifier M3300 la...price => v4121....

why almost every body who ask for the RM200+ speaker sure have AL VS4121 in their list...

Here

from ur signature, u are using XtremeGamer right? if yes, why u need to use Y-cable to make "fake" 4.1? just hook each pair of speaker to front and rear channel of the sound card u can make true 4.1 system adi...connect two speaker from 1 output will burden the output opamp and might lead to poor sound quality...

The center actually not so important, really....

MX5021 depends where u place it...in my 5mX6m room, i nearly fight with my international neighbour due to my speaker bass...

Brick wall....thick brick wall(double brick) without any EQ tuning and speaker setting at default, the bass shake my heart and penetrate to put my neighbour's room in hell, the feeling same as in the cinema...everytime i will heard my neighbour beating the wall between us strongly to warn me, too many times adi...WTF...

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Apr 22 2008, 12:08 PM

Go for Edifier....say NO to Altec Lansing in this price range...refer my avatar...

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Apr 25 2008, 05:59 PM

RM200-RM250 AL only got VS4121, no choice adi...

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Added on April 26, 2008, 12:03 amya, i hate it, i really hate it.....make sound pollution...hate hate hate

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Apr 26 2008, 12:04 AM

E3100 too....anyway, don't go for AL VS4121, don't ever go to hear it, don't get it for whatever reason even it is FREE...

nope, no way to fix it... my opinion no offence to its owner...

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Apr 26 2008, 08:25 AM

No, i don't have, i not even think about it...i only think to destroy all the VS4121 in the world...

no...it just make annoying sound....the bass overwhelming, even a gently guitar string plucking and piano key pressing will humming and shake the room, completely unrealistic, the damn down firing midrange just make the vocal sound like idiot...hate hate hate

My course mate had one, everytime i go to his room i feel wanna destroy it, but unfortunately the speaker too solid, even brute force also can't destroy it..

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Apr 26 2008, 01:07 PM

Good link by you...now i know the appropriate way to destroy VS4121...

Absolutely right...good comment by your friend...

forget Altec Lansing Speaker in this price range(bad sound quality), go to Edifier instead...