Not sure if there has been any info before, but I hv been testing this media player - M9702 player. Its an interesting player to say the least.. There are 2 HDMI outputs (1 X 2.0, 1X1.4 audio only), gigabit LAN port, and 1 usb to TTL port for future upgrades and 1 optical out. The player runs off Oppo jalbreak firmware (latest version), supports HDR10, HDR10+ and Dolby Vision. It seems to play everything that the JB Oppo plays (ie, UHD iso, BD iso, BD folders, mkv etc) and supports Dolby Atmos & DTS X bitstreamed. I will add pictures later if possible but its the only Dolby Vision playback device (for iso and folder structure) that I see in the market now. I'm not sure how long it will last as it uses the same Mediatek 8581 chip that the Oppo and Pioneer UHD players use. It also plays SACD iso.

Added info: Does not come with a BD-ROM so only plays iso, files etc. Comes with a backlit remote. Oppo remote works as well if u have one lying around.

YouTube review by a spanish AV group.

M9702 YouTube Review Part1

There are 3 parts, u can check them all out.

The latest units do not have the coaxial out.

This post has been edited by anfieldude: Aug 27 2019, 04:28 PM

Berapa satu bijik ?

Its USD399 for now, but some groups in Spain and Italy have done bulk buys that drops the price to USD300. This includes shipping.

My set shipped via FedEx and came in 2 days, but the seller is based in China, so I'm not sure how it applies to others for now.

Anything this box can do other boxes cannot do ?

i din read 4k from your review, does it support UHD/4k? not too expensive compare to Oppo but Oppo not only excel on its software but their base (circuit board is strong too)

It plays UHD iso / folders in Dolby Vision and HDR10+ . It also plays the media back correctly in any colour space that u select, ie YCbCr 4:2:2 / 4:4:4 correctly and because the conversion from 4:2:0 is done correctly the picture is sharper. Autoframe rates work without glitches as well (but some media players get this right as well).

It is not Android based (Linux based OS) so no apps etc.

Yes its a 4K player that plays Dolby Vision/HDR10/HDR10+ if the media is encoded correctly.

It uses the same Mediatek Chip as the Oppo. I have not seen any differences to the Oppo 203 that I have but will spend more time and add the 1st post if I do see anything out of place.

Sounds like libreElec/Kodi.

I was not aware that Kodi is able to playback Dolby Vision in any form.

sounds like a pure media player, which is great for serious playback.

can it do 1080/2160p BDMV menus?

Yes. The UI is exactly the same as Oppo and it runs on the Oppo 20x Jailbreak firmware. The one on mine is the latest firmware 65-0131. I added a link to a video review in the 1st post. U can see the UI and others, but need to turn on subtitles.

This post has been edited by anfieldude: Aug 27 2019, 02:28 PM

nice.

for hdr/hdr10+/DV... + atmos/dtsx... gotta have one of these!

Once i have an OLED tv, i will get one of these.

where to buy this product?

If u google "m9702 player" the 1st search result will give u a bd-mod site that allows u to order online and pay via paypal. That's how I bought mine. The other way is to join the next group buy with avpassion (spanish forum) and pay about USD100 less than direct buy and the shipping is done individually ( u will need to get intouch with the avpassion folks and I believe they will tell u how to proceed) with tracking.

anfieldude...have you received the player? could you post a short review of the player?

Yes I received it within 2 days of purchase. So far it works just like my jailbroken Oppo 203. Dolby Vision works great. It also supports HDR10+ but I have not tested this as I don't have a Samsung player. I tested the colour gamut and it's exactly the same as the output as the Oppo. HDR2020 to SDR2020 is broken just like the Oppo 203 as the gamut is shrunken to Rec709. This might be a mediatek chipset issue.

thanks. it sounds like a bargain.

have you tried any other Media Player like Egreat as a comparison to Oppo or M9702? i am currently using Egreat so i am not sure if the M9702 will be an improvement to the egreat.

from some forum, they mentioned that the M9702's visual is as good as the Oppo but the Audio segment is no where near Oppo quality even with the M9702 upgraded version with Talema transformer.

I do have the Himedia Q10pro to compare and the video output of the M9702/Oppo is better in the sense that its mainly due to the ability to convert 4:2:0 to 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 correctly. Plus u can select the desired output u want and it sticks. The Android based players are finicky and sometimes drop to 8bit outputs that is inferior for 10bit content.

The audio differences I have to validate as I find it hard to believe that if the output is bitstreamed and the digital to analogue conversion is done by ur AVR, it can actually be different. But who knows. When I find the time, I will try to see if I can test it in detail.

One thing that no other media player can do is the ability to play Dolby Vision content both TV Led and Player Led, so this is the bonus.

thanks for the feedback.

For the finicky issue of the 8bit content, i encounter the same issue with my egreat as well. i realized that this is due to the projector/AVR. when i turn on the egreat first and let it boot up before i turn on the rest, it will stay at 10 bit but if the sequence is wrong, the AVR will somehow force the egreat to 8bit. Maybe Himedia Q10pro faces the same issue.

i used to think that a player should not affect the sound as conversion is done on the AVR but after trying out several different player, i find that the sound has the biggest impact compares to image quality. different player has different characteristic of sound. some can be very bright and sharp while some could sound very mellow and less dynamic.

On the sound, is this based on Dolby Atmos/TrueHD & DTS-X/Master Audio codecs? Or 2 channel audio playback?

my personal experience is based on Atmos playback. i use Raspberry Pi for 2 channel playback instead.

so far, the best i have heard for HT is from Oppo 203 but due to the price, i have yet to take the plunge especially with the limited support after Oppo announce the closure of the Blu ray department.

i am very keen on the M9702 but from some chinese forum, they mentioned that the sound quality is still not on par with the Oppo even with the top specs Talema transformer+high end caps. this option is available if you purchase it through taobao.

I will hv to see what can be different if the decoding of the signal is done by the amp. Is this difference you hear with nothing else changed , just the source device?

The only thing I can think of is jitter. Its possible but for compressed audio like Dolby TrueHD/Atmos/ , DTS MA/X the effect is also dependant on the AV amplifier clocks. Still, it might be worth investigating and I will try to do this and report when I get the chance. I do know that the 205 had improved jitter circuitry, but even Oppo's notes says that the effect might be more pronounced for PCM and DSD audio and much more complicated to confirm compressed audio codecs.

This post has been edited by anfieldude: Sep 10 2019, 04:56 PM

i think the Jitter plays a big role in the sound quality. i usually use the John Wick 2 catacomb scene for my testing. there are a lot of small details in the ambience for the catacomb scene which is not able to be reproduced by the normal media player.

I will test it to see if I can hear the differences between the Oppo203 Vs the m9702 using this scene. What AVR do u use by the way?

This post has been edited by anfieldude: Sep 10 2019, 09:45 PM

I am using Arcam 390 running 7.1.4 with external amp.

Great to see a owner of Arcam receiver in this forum. Do u adjust sound level of speaker in your amp to 75db after run dirac live? Why not you consider pioneer Lx500, The sound quality is better than oppo 203. Jailbreak version now also very stable.

Again, the sound of the LX500 is better than the Oppo203 for bitstream content, PCM or analogue outs from the Oppo/Pioneer?

yes, I got luck to test few player oppo 203 , 205, pioneer lx 800 in my home in the same day . All sounds & pictures are different . But not every one is sensitive to sound quality, if someone cannot heard different is normal.

This post has been edited by kkthen: Sep 13 2019, 11:47 AM

Thanks for the background. In ur experience, u could make out differences via hdmi out from these sources for bitstreamed content for the lossy codecs like Dolby TrueHD/Atmos/DTSHDMA/X? And the different sources were sent to same AVR...very interesting. I will report back once I can check the m9702 vs the Oppo 203 in my setup.

I can expect video differences for HDR content as the conversion of 4:2:0 to 4:4:4 for 4k content is different depending on the implementation. Also for 1080p content the upscaling to a 4k display will also be different depending on how it's done.



This post has been edited by anfieldude: Sep 13 2019, 12:43 PM

I had this player since March, nice media file player, using Oppo firmware, got it direct from taobao for around RM1.3k

They have released a v3 which comes with built in LPS and better and thicker casing for around RM1.6k

A very good alternative if you don't need android boxes functions but only want a good 4k UHD/audio player

it play DSD files too

Great to have Arcam owners here. i am using Starke A7 for my 5 channel (main speaker using hifi monoblock) and Anthem PVA7 for my 4 atmos. Due to difference in power and speaker efficiently, i am having difficulties volume matching all the speakers during Dirac setup even with the 10db individual speaker volume adjustment. The different of my main speaker vs my back speaker is more than 10db. i am still able to get all the channel to fall into the green bar in order to run Dirac.

even with Umik mic, i find that all the speaker are not volume matched even after Dirac Live. the difference between each individual speaker can varies up to 3.5db when i run the test tone from the AVR after dirac calibration.

If i volume match all the speakers (my front 2 speaker are usually the loudest), i get more pinpoint imaging but it reduces the dynamic of the system by a little.

Your sound system is great , you deserve use high end uhd bluray player like oppo 205 or pioneer 800 for good quality source. I only use single AVR550 for amp. After run dirac live , i got 83 db sound level for my front speaker, sound quality are very terrible. I adjust all speaker level at 75 db, subwoofer at 85 db. This is most correct setting . Arcam auto level is something wrong , need to manually adjust to correct . We got 6 arcam user member , all of us face up same incorrect sound level problem.

yes...i agree that the sound level is just crappy on the Arcam but the Umik helped reduce this problem by a lot if compares to the original Arcam MIC. the volume is about 3.5db difference (max) between each speaker.

as for the subwoofer, i do agree that Arcam sub setting is on the low side. some forum suggest to increase it by 10db as what you have done. my SVS16U was at -10DB when was using Yamaha 3050 and after calibration, the volume for sub was about -1 in the AVR. As for Arcam, i have to set the SVS to -15DB and the internal sub volume in the AVR is at -10db.... :facepalm. thats practically more than 10db differences if you compare it with the Yamaha.

as for the Arcam original MIC, all my speaker started to roll off at 13khz. when i switched to Umik, the mic is able to detect a rather flat line al the way to 18khz below a minor roll off. the original Arcam calibration MIC is a big no no for me.

This post has been edited by Fusion: Sep 17 2019, 04:29 PM

any local seller sell this?

Hi, where you referring for the v3 (RM1.6k)? i heard this box dont have WIFI, but only wired LAN, am i right?

I assume no playback issue for all the Dolby Vision/Atmos, HDR10, DTS-X, DTS-MA, Dolby True-HD. it also can read downloaded blueray folder, right?

thank you

Taobao

mine got no problem at all playing all those with menu support, no wifi

you bought from this seller as well? so far no issue connect to Malaysia power socket, just need 1 additional converter to convert to 3 pin will do, right?

any firmware update after you bought the player?

thanks again

This post has been edited by kskoay: Sep 18 2019, 11:23 AM

Bought from him, when order, just select UK plug and it will fit to our power socket
my firmware is the ver 60 fw that support dolby vision which is good enough for me as my TV cannot support HDR10+
So far no problem at all
Received the player in 5 days after payment, very fast

you bought directly from taobao or through agent? thanks again.

direct lah, why need go through agent
now taobao got guarantee delivery or money back already

thank you very much

Hi bro, 1 more question, this player can play Blu-ray folder (BDMV, with Dolby Atmos/DTS-X + Dolby Vision/HDR10, as long as applicable)? example like below screen. It can play with full interaction menu + the extra features which come with the bluray? or only play the movie directly? thanks again.



This post has been edited by kskoay: Sep 24 2019, 07:27 AM

Yes it can. It plays with full menu.

thank you

Hi, anyone of you came across M8702? just realized the same seller which selling M9702 in taobao also have this model 8702. According to the seller this M8702 have exactly the same PCB board + same OS ver with M9702 but without "SACD ISO" support, which i think some user doesn't required that. FYI, this M8702 only selling RM9XX in taobao

important thing is M8702 also supporting Dolby Vision, HDR10 and all the lossless surround format (Dolby Atmos, DTS-X, etc)

This post has been edited by kskoay: Sep 30 2019, 07:37 AM

I done my order with this seller in Taobao, cost me total rm 1750++ with direct shipment cost from china to my home, but the seller told me the shipment cost is not enough to cater for direct shipment and ask for another 200! Wtf! Cancel my order and request for refund without thinking twice! The shipment cost calculation is came from the taobao app itself, and I select direct shipment, this fu*ker told me no enough and ask for top up 200!

Very odd, I ordered from the same seller but no such issue, my player was just released by custom and expect to reach me on next Monday.

I still keep the conversation...and he even said he very busy and no time to discuss this further!

Ya I agree, this seller is a bit arrogant...

I have tested my M9702 Talema version and so far satisfy with the video quality. But i got a problem where both usb ports are unable to detect my 3.5" hdd with external enclosure while the 2.5" external hdd has worked flawlessly.

The one that I hv has no problems detecting the external 3.5" hdd dock that I use.

I disable the raid setting and the hdd is detectable. Weird..

hello friends , can anyone tell me where can i buy this player ?

Bro, u manage to find out where to buy elsewhere? Its only available at Taobao. The site in chinese n l m also having problem understanding it totally

Pls Google bd-mod and u can buy from there. Its PayPal protected but seller might be slow. I had no problems and he shipped the next day and I received the following day. But others seem to indicate otherwise. It mileage may vary.

Thks bro. This player can play 4k ISO files without any issue?

Yes it can, with Dolby Vision as well.

Pardon me for being a noob, first time into the bd-mod ordering, what is actually the Input MAC? What should l key in?
Thks bro for your time

No need input MAC for the M9702. I suggest u contact seller via email 1st to ensure he will ship on time as sometimes he has other orders and u will have to wait some time. Only then place order.

Update! Finally managed to get one. My friend helped me to order from Taobao and arranged shipping back here. It took about 11 days. Cost around 1.4k including shipping.

This is a good player for local playback. Thanks to Bro Anfieldude for introducing this player. 4k HEVC files playback is flawless. Picture looks great and sharp with quite accurate color space presentation. I use Samsung TV so HDR10 is automatically selected. I set resolution to UHD 60p with 12 bit 422 color space. The interface is fast n loading is way much faster then my Oppo 103 playing AVC files. I can say the files play straight away upon my pressing the play button, true USB 3 port. I use external HDD. Bitstream audio pass thru also works flawlessly, be it Atmos or DTS X.

Very happy with the player. If u are like me only interested in local playback, l highly recommend this player. Price might be higher than others but u really get great 4k pictures.

I also looking to get a media player but was introduce to Sony UBP-X700 (https://www.sony.com.my/electronics/blu-ray-disc-players/ubp-x700#pdp_slideshow_default).

Anyone know how does this compare to M9702?

X700 is a good 4k bluray player but l dont know it can play iso files properly. Whereas M9702 is a true media player with great 4k picture quality. I m not sure how to compare, lol

Thanks for the comment. Can you share the Taobao link where you bought it.

Its on this thread, page 2

Best thing about this player is u r basically getting an Oppo 203 UHD player

Saw the link and there seem 3 option but I don't read Chinese.

Choose the 1st option, the cheapest one. At least thats the correct one for me as l only playback using external HDD. I m not using what raid or nas or other connection.

Take note that my friend arrange shipping by himself, l m not sure how she did that. Seems like she has a depot or something in China, lol

Noted bro, thanks for sharing...

No problem, bro. This is really a good player for local playback. Really glad to have got it.

Anyone have any idea would adding an USB blue ray drive work on this?

https://shopee.com.my/USB-3.0-Blu-ray-drive...VRoCiR0QAvD_BwE

Not sure if can, guess the data transfer wont be fast enough. Would it be compatible with the player?

Believe this has been tested by some German or Spanish forums and they confirm that it does not work.

I can't remember if the x700 plays ISOs, I can find that out tomorrow. I've connected my USB drive and found that it is pretty good but I don't think it plays DTS/DTS-x or Atmos. If it did then I wouldn't be purchasing one these m9702s. I hope this helps a little.

Thank you for sharing the info...

Hello,

I hesitate between the M9702 and the M9706. They are almost identical, but the M9706 should provide better sound. According to Tocinillo, he did not find the best sound of the M9706. Anyone among you compared the sound of the M9702 vs Oppo 203 and 205? Admittedly, the M9706 is heavier, better build quality, torroidal, jitter but it seems that the difference is almost inaudible if I believe Tocinillo, tester and manager of the Spanish AVP forum.

What do you think because the price difference is important?

With the M9706 I expected an audiophile device (I have a denon 4500 + Adiolab 6000A + Tannoy Revolution xt8f and XT6F). If I take a reproducer such as Zapitti + an audiophile usb reproducer, it costs a lot and if the M7906 does exactly the same thing for less, it is more interesting.

Frankly have no idea on the M9706. So far l dont have any complaint for the sound of M9702 but l m no audiophile.
The Atmos works very well for M9702 in all the movies l tried so far including those remux iso.
Just watch MI Rogue Nation in remux n the Atmos is good enough for me.
Anyone can help Bro Ulises?

Hello

Thank you Kevin for your help.


I do not understand that people do not test the sound. Yet the sone is essential.
Admittedly, the M9702 does not have analog inputs but it has an optical input and there it is possible to make a comparison with the Oppo 203.

€ 200 difference between the M9702 and 9706 is huge. It is true that the quality of construction is better but what matters is the image (I think that all devices give excellent image quality and I think it is difficult to evolve on this side) and sound first.

I think in cinema it is difficult to differentiate the two devices because of the nature (explosions, dialogues in films, etc.) but in hifi there should be a difference

Hifi is a different story. I just use it to watch movies n so far is very satisfied with the 4k hdr images.
Sound l can only compare it to my Oppo 103 n also quite satisfied, in fact 4k Atmos is more powerful. Is it the soundtrack or the M9702? Frankly l m no audiopile, just a satisfied user, haha

Hie,

Thank Kevin.

So, do you notice any diffrence? Only more powerful in Atmos? more or equal details in Movies and music in 5.1?

Thank you

Bro, l can only comment for movies as per my standard. Details separation is good as per my Oppo 103. Atmos is more powerful in the sense that bass is deeper n stronger. Overall for same movie l dont hav to up the volume that much to get the same loudness. Hav to note that Oppo 103 is doing 1080p soundtrack n the M9702 is 4k. My two cents.

I am letting go of this excellent M9702 V3. Anyone interested please PM.

No one else using this player?

How is this player compared to Zidoo Z9X?

Zidoo is android based media player, m9702 is clone to the Oppo 203 UHD player. Being an android based device you can install apps from google playstore, can use as local file streaming device or internet streaming such netflix, disney+ etc2. M9702 solely use to play backup files only (mkv, BDMV, etc)