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kmarc
post Aug 12 2007, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(slash @ Aug 12 2007, 07:51 PM)
DTH or HDT also can. Just move the words around
Direct touch heat-pipe. Heat-pipe direct touch. If you ask me, both sound wrong.
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Errr.... isn't the easiest way to resolve this is to visit their website and see? tongue.gif

Anyway, I went there to check it out - like likito said it is HDT - Heat-pipe Direct Touch....... wink.gif

@"those with xigmatek" - PLEASE give some feedback!!!!! vmad.gif
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post Aug 13 2007, 05:35 PM

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Muahahaaaa...... now testing my xigmatek S1283.....

CPU : E6750
Mobo : P35-DS3
Ambient : Around 28'c
Rig : NAKED - pls note!!!

Remember that the core temperature of the E6x50 series is still unresolved! Dunno which one to follow....

here's some results....

Intel's stock HSF
3.16Ghz at 1.35v: core0/1 : 50/50'c, CPU : 55'c
3.44Ghz at 1.40v: core0/1 :55/55, CPU : 62'c sweat.gif sweat.gif
3.51Ghz at 1.45v: You gotta be kidding! Want me to fry eggs aaa??? tongue.gif

Xigmatek
3.16Ghz at 1.35v : core 0/1 : 39/39'c, CPU 44'c
3.44Ghz at 1.40v : core 0/1 : 43/43'c, CPU 49'c
3.52Ghz at 1.45v : core 0/1 : 46/46'c, CPU 52'c

CPU = Easytuner's CPU temperature and Speedfan's temp2 temperature.....

Now orthosing at 1.425v at 3.5Ghz with the fan speed reduced to 2000rpm instead of 100%...... rclxms.gif

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post Aug 13 2007, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Aug 13 2007, 08:30 PM)
Well, I just realize that my cooler's fan running at around 1100k RPM only. Anyway to make it run at full speed? Previously it running at 2k RPM, but after I reinstalled it again, it started to run at 1k speed instead 2k rpm... sad.gif
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Yeah, you can use speedfan.

Does your mobo come with any fan control software? You can use that also.....
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post Aug 14 2007, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(remysix @ Aug 14 2007, 08:03 AM)
currently i'm OCCTing my Q6600 G0 at 3.6Ghz wif 1.45v(bios)/vdroop to 1.42v...already passed 7 hours and the xigmatek is really really fighting to cap the temp...load temp at around 59-62c...we'll see whether can pass the 12 hours mark or not...
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Eh, why is your vcore so high? I thought the Q6600 G0 can do 3.5-3.6Ghz at 1.35v?

My E6750 is already doing 3.5Ghz at 1.425v, can almost reach 3.6Ghz at 1.45v (set in BIOS). Wonder whether I should go up to 1.5v...... hmm.gif

QUOTE(RokXIII @ Aug 14 2007, 08:44 AM)
able to control the fan speed now, now running at 2k rpm. but the problem is there got no changes in the temperature... no difference between 1k rpm and 2k rpm... sweat.gif
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Is it? Are you sure speedfan is controlling the fan? Sometimes if you do not set it correctly, speedfan does nothing to the fan speed. Usually what I do is use speedfan to stop the fan totally, if I can do that, then I'm sure I can control the fan thru speedfan.......

Yesterday, at load, I tried to reduce the fan speed a bit and the temperature did go up...... have to go back and try today..... smile.gif
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post Aug 14 2007, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Aug 14 2007, 09:04 AM)
Actually speedfan can't show me the correct fan speed, so i open everest to refer the fan speed. Before i tweak it, the fan speed in everest is around 1k rpm, when i tweak it in speedfan by increasing the percentage, the fan speed in everest increase as well to 2k rpm.

But, the weird thing, i can't feel changes in the temperature and also the fan's noise. From 1k to 2k rpm, the fan's noise should be louder a bit, rite? But it still very silent... sweat.gif
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Try reducing the fan speed to 0% (Zero percent). By right, the fan should stop. If it doesn't, then your configuration is wrong.

Edit: I briefly tried the fan speed on my rig. Folding at 45'c at 1k rpm. When I increase the fan speed to full speed (2.2k), the temperature dropped to 42'c within 1 minute. Didn't wait to see whether it would drop further or not..... smile.gif

QUOTE(remysix @ Aug 14 2007, 11:17 AM)
hmm.gif  who got the Q6600 G0 running at 3.5Ghz at 1.35v, stable? shocking.gif
if u r taking about booting into window...sure can but i'm talking 12hours prime/orthos/OCCT stable at that speed...
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Hehe, so sorry. My mistake, was actually referring to the E6850 G0 stepping.... doh.gif

So sorry aaa.... anyway, nice proc you have there!!! thumbup.gif

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post Aug 15 2007, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(likito @ Aug 15 2007, 08:38 PM)
AMD Stock cooler default vcore idle 40c
Xigmatek HDT-1283 default vcore idle 36c

totally disappoint it . try many way already still the same , dont know my proc got problem or my personal skill problem..
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Need to know a few things:
1) Are you running C&Q?
2) Did you OC your rig?
3) What is your room temperature?
4) Open or closed casing?
5) What is the fan speed of the Xigmatek

Let me give you an example regarding the xigmatek on my rig:
At idle - core 0/1 : 24/24'c, easytuner5 CPU temp : 30'c
--- xigmatek fan running at 250rpm!!! rclxub.gif (I can actually see that the fan is spinning so slow!!!)

At load (folding) - core 0/1 : 41/41'c, easytuner5 CPU temp : 45'c
--- xigmatek fan running at 1000rpm.... (I set the rpm in easytuner)

At load (orthos) - core 0/1 : 46/46'c, easytuner5 CPU temp : 51'c
--- xigmatek fan running at 2200rpm (full speed).... can hear the fan spinning quite audibly....
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post Sep 11 2007, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(likito @ Sep 11 2007, 01:55 PM)
hi , i want to ask the best airflow direction either A or B (AMD platfom only 2 direction , either face psu or gc)
Does you PSU have openings at the bottom? If it does, the A direction is better. Blow the air towards the PSU, and the air will be blown out by the PSU..... smile.gif
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post Sep 13 2007, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(Doom @ Sep 13 2007, 10:48 AM)
won't such setup burden the PSU since more hot air passed through the PSU .....
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Yeah, I always wondered whether a hot PSU will reduce it's lifespan. hmm.gif

However, if you use setup B, I think it will be worse as the CPU fan and the PSU will be competing for air!!! sweat.gif
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Sep 13 2007, 05:47 PM)
OCZ vendetta with DTH tech..

tsk tsk..oem from xigmatek?
Weird. How come the fan cfm is so low at 2800rpm.... OIC, it is the smaller version.... smile.gif

What do you call this type of agreement (between OCZ and Xigmatek.....)? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Sep 13 2007, 06:05 PM)
OCZ + Xigmatek = OCMATEK laugh.gif
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Really? Then AMD and ATI would be..... whistling.gif

Is it cross-licensing or something like that.... hmm.gif

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post Sep 13 2007, 09:48 PM

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My heart almost jumped out when I saw this review : http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?opti...=1&limitstart=2

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When applying thermal interface material to the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 exposed copper heatpipe 120mm CPU cooler, it's very important to understand that most TIM's used with aluminum coolers will cause oxidation to the copper heatpipes upon contact.
Unfortunately, Xigmatek did not include any special TIM for their exposed copper base, which is an accountable oversight.  While nearly any TIM will suffice, it is recommended that you do not use a material based on silicone oxide for best results and product longevity


I checked my AS5, phew! Luckily no silicone in it!! sweat.gif

Why type of TIM uses silicone anyway?

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QUOTE(styloe @ Sep 13 2007, 11:29 PM)
how bout the artic MX2 ?
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Dunno. I don't think it has silicone either. Only stated in their website that the MX2 doesn't have any metal substances....


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QUOTE(likito @ Sep 14 2007, 12:48 AM)
ocz HDT cooler look 99.9% same with xigmatek.
last time i got see another HDT cooler(南海) which is made in taiwan or china
I wonder whether this HSF is more efficient, considering that it has 4 heatpipes.....

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QUOTE(ckhoong @ Sep 14 2007, 08:44 AM)
correction here.. wink.gif

3r iceage performs better than s963 but not s1283

iceage has 4X6mm heatpipes while xigma 963 has 3x6mm heatpipes n smaller cooling tower

and

iceage has 4x6mm heatpipes while xigma 1283 has 3x8mm heatpipes.. both big n tall cooling tower
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Any comparison on that? hmm.gif

QUOTE(styloe @ Sep 14 2007, 12:08 PM)
but the real Q is whether all of them perform as GOOD as XIGMATEK? hmm.gif just plain copy design is wan thing but the materials use is another.Maybe like wajalution7 and evolution7 ka  laugh.gif
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post Sep 14 2007, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(ckhoong @ Sep 14 2007, 07:50 PM)
tauke.. this is the techspec. consult xigmatek web or ...the xigmatek's s1283 members can check out their heatpipes.. izit bigger than others.. use ruler to measure izit 8mm  nod.gif
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I think what we meant was whether there is any hard data on this...... smile.gif We do know that the S1283 has bigger heatpipes. Just curious to see what the difference in performance is between the 4x6mm vs 3x8mm heatpipes.... nod.gif

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QUOTE(ckhoong @ Sep 15 2007, 01:06 AM)
yea.. just a discussion..

anyway send regards to stephen ya
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I still think the DTH is the best air cooler in terms of price/performance. Just wished there were more reviews.....

IMO, the 3x8mm would be more efficient rather than the 4x6mm. As you know, the CPU core is located at the centre of the IHS, and as such, heatpipes at the sides will less useful compared to the more centred ones.


For the 4x6mm ones, the 2 peripheral heatpipes would be less useful as the centre 2 heatpipes takes the brunt of the heat..... hmm.gif
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post Oct 6 2007, 10:19 PM

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Finally, a nice comparison between the Xigmatek S1283 vs other top coolers. As expected, it is the best price/performance air cooler around!!! smile.gif

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/d...xigmatek_9.html

 

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