Recond car are essentially a used car. But marketed by dealer that way so they can still sell at high price.

Would you buy 2-3 years recond car (like toyota harrier) against a new car (like Mazda CX-5) given both of them has the same price?

Same with other model like Toyota wish or Honda stream.

Do you see it as high keras?


Disclaimer:
Sorry ayam open banyak tered today. Got free time, boss tarak go outstation.

Buy used car not necessarily low class.

i choose buy axia e cash.

Of course. Understanding the logic here.

For same amount of money, would you get brand new car or go for used 2-3 years old car?

Unless you're buying solely because of the brand.. then i dunno

Of course incik ikankering, of course...

new axia e.
24k cash.

Model of car does not matter. It's the price you paid that ppl determines how keras you are.

eg, buying an ancient 318i for 40k is no more haikeras than buying a new Saga. It just makes the 318i buyer look more sad.

This post has been edited by dares: Aug 23 2019, 02:24 PM

buy new car is confirm high keras.
then everybodi high keras at the same time?

used car > recond

it's better to buy used car than recond, at least if u buy a used car..they marketed it as used car
but recond, they try to sell it as if it's brand new when the mileage is 120k KM and adjusted to 5k KM

Yes, but for some models, they are not available in Malaysia.
For example, Toyota wish or Honda stream.

Toyota harrier when its finally becum available officially, Toyota slapped harga yahudi. Then people continue buy this recond harrier.

No keras like that

Buy used car. Recond risky, mileage usually fake

Hmm... But it's the same thing lor..

Look at car type juga la.. buy new axia where got keras?

Buy new Mazda CX-5 then a bit keras la..

buy new
no headache

but but
a used mclaren f1 > new axia

This post has been edited by mousqy: Aug 23 2019, 02:31 PM

Used car usually cannot check mileage validity.

But buy recond car can check the mileage at some app if I'm not mistaken.

Pay rm50 then can get auction car info. Then can know if kena tipu or not

U pay according the price maa... Like me buy recond for jdm model only.. If got ckd.. I dun want also...

Example... Subaru Levorg.. manada Motor Image bring in...

Doesn't matter. Like I said, if wanna talk about keras, it's all about how much u paid for it.

What jdm model? Some got ckd here.

Is this new? If buy jdm model exclusive then is the highest keras of all?

But then service susah ma coz model not available here..

1994 car only but sold for 19.8 million

yes...same thing
but the seller(company) will market it in a different way
they will market it as if recond > used
almost marketing the recond as if it's brand new but it's actually the same thing

and they cover alot of thing in a recond as well
while a used car, they sell it as it is condition

last time MI got bring in., RM200k.

axia 1st gen. 5k

true in a way
used car they usually don't adjust their mileage, they're all sold as high mileage car

but if u really want a recond and u wanted to check the auction sheet, i can guarantee u ALL recond car that came to malaysia...not a single one u would buy

Used car can check if the car not too old. Example if the car is 3 yr old, u check mileage then match with service record. If the mileage shows 20k but service record is up to 40k then u know its fake mileage.

If dont hv service record, confirm fake mileage. All cars under warranty will choose to send car to official service centre, so will have record

Make sense for u?

This one collector's item, cannot compare la

Initial glance sure yes

But then look at new plate number VDK or whatever ppl will str8 away know you bought cheap recon lulz

Wow mahalnya... Then buy recond GT version only.. STI version mahal banget...

In that price range, other factors come into play already..

Top up a bit get Mercedes C class, confirm high keras.

You buy subaru nobody knows, at highway also nobody respect and kena high beam by axia only

Yes!! Thank you.

You just highlighted what i meant

You see at the back got that blue and green star sticker then can know already

Btw, recond cars are not cheap. Dont salah sangka. They cost as much as a new car

318i ewwww

Want buy bee emm, must at least 325i. Straight-6 > shitty problematic 4-cylinder.

1-3 years old car high chance eksiden/flood car

Why would people change car that early

oh hai !

answer : yes

previously i did think why ppl want to buy recond coz it is second hand. now i know.
1st, if you tend to change car often (less than 6-7 years) coz for taxation purpose. the car value lost compare initial new car is bit diff
2nd, affordability as per claim. for example 140k for new you can't even buy a new fortuner. but instead you could buy recond or second hand
if you die die want to feel the premium segment car.
3rd, loan value, usually new car you need pay out min 10% for downpayment loan 90%. some of recond can get 100% or some even 105%. (depend variance and car type)


risk/potential issue
- uncertain quality, because it a second hand car therefore the car parts issue is undetermine
- recond seller, have news and rumors about the recond unit was theft or not approved unit. (i not sure about this)
- spare part issue, unless is brand like toyota harrier / vellfire / alphard (2.4 / 2.5) most engine part was shared among camry car or so. Other than that you need to worry the spare part price and availability
- Warranty, as the recond are used car. The warranty only covered within the company. unlike the new car you could claim under the brand authorize center.

Hope I did not miss anything. If there any miss out, /K please comment. dun bash me. I pakai kapchai only no buy recond car before

Import from Japan also accident and flood cars meh?

Yes lar. Japan import car the used car seller like to bullshit say japanese ppl dont drive alot. Then use scrut later see kantoi mileage already 100k++ just for 2-3 years usage

Depends on the dealer..,,.I bought recond car 4 years ago come with japan service record, ap copy

1) apa ni? Tak faham.. explain more please

2) ok. But recond car usually very expensive also

3) so if buy, then can get cashback? This one legal meh?

What was the mileage when you bought? Is it real?

still better than brand new shitty tahi burukdua with 9 years loan

20k somethin ...yes got service record match with ap copy & sticker

Burukdua mana ada jual recond

New price for burukdua also not same level as recond car

ayam cousin say orang kaya only buy new car

last time ayam bought 2013 shit conti he laughed at me cant afford new car

High keras is buying a recon a250 rather than new camry ..that is high keras

car can park inside bedroom? then you can have your dashcam ready

Partly true. Bosses all drive current gen car.

Actually, new camry price now also very keras, almost 200k.. ayam starting to look new camry as keras also

If the used car is an officially sold car, just got to check the service history or contact one of the official franchise service centers and ask when was the last time the car had a service.

They will tell you the date and mileage, you can sort of figure it out whether the mileage on it is genuine or not.

Depend. If dashcam can record inside car, then just do business inside car cabin only. Buy car with leather seat later easy to clean

No need go bedroom

then he bought a new alza and perli me every cny

Pre-reg / second hand / used car is the best option for medium budget

Recon car is abit risky since you really dont know what was the original condition (be it Jap or UK)

But if you keen into Japanese Recond, you could check it here first (https://scrut.my/) with RM 50 fee to buy the genuine record cert from Japan

Kalau ada budget brand new saja lah, 5 years peace in mind at least (avoid those problematic brands of course)

i mean kasi drive ur car into your bedroom then find the best angle kasi parking and turn on ur dashcam

But if u can choose between brand why dun lexus right ? More premium ...btw 200k is keras for a toyota family sedan

1) assets depreciation for business purpose. after 5 years no value
for you get lower nett profit if you add on the car for director as expenditure

2) still cheaper than new

3) because new car have MSRP, you cannot run liao. only they give you discount from car dealer profit or stock clearance discount
whereelse recond dealer have high margin gap and usually the total loan amount is higher than market selling price so you got cash back sometimes or you can nego with them. (high cashback mean higher loan amount)

ES250 - only badges and some minor accessories but tambah 50 - 60k ouch

This one so naissssssssss

mia ini IS250? tabuli ini machem....

is 250 instrument cluster~~~ hhhhhhnnnnnnnnngggghhhhhhhhh ... almost pancut

these are taxi or rental cars
it will be mentioned at the auction sheet what this car is used for previously

Good info. Thanks.

second hand = low class

if buy recond bugatti confirm high class.

Yep..coz its cheaper to buy used audi rs6 consider our currency rate...weak

GTR and AE86 owners laff die at pipu wanting to buy their cars

Even you have e30 maaceedeeee also people think u is 70s high krass pepo, ada dua sen punya olang, true story

This post has been edited by keyibukeyi: Aug 23 2019, 05:47 PM

Cover what?
Retune service for the car mileage?

Keep talking about currency rate until i wanna puke dy

How are you?

Are you got overcome your cheong addiction already?

cover mileage, cover scratches and bumps, cover dirty/smelly interior, cover scratched rims
the condition of the car is actually far worse than u think
when u go buy a used car, they sell them as it is...they don't cover anything up

Not yet.....
but i havent cheong in 20 days

Rather buy 10 year old car for 20k

It's not as bad as you paint it and there are others who gotten genuine mileage cars after checking at JP databases (scrut only checks the auction sheets, which is possible to be tampered)

been in this business for too many years
there are no such thing as genuine mileage
even if the car came with 10k KM..which for me is reasonable(low for a 1 years old car)...the boss still ask to adjust it until 1k KM

unless the car came with really really low mileage(i've seen before)...like below 1k KM thn yes..it won't be adjusted
this kind of car are usually 1 years old car(recond car has to be 1 years old before can be imported in)
but these kind of car, they market it as brand new car because of it's extremely low mileage

and there is no such thing as JP database...even the boss of recond company buy their car based on auction sheet...everything in the auction sheet is genuine because it's not filled in by the seller themselves...it's being inspected and being filled in by people from the auctioners side

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Aug 24 2019, 08:46 AM

Go carvx or autopatrul la



I've seen discrepancies/forged auction sheets
(Who did it, no idea, probably from Malaysia side providing fakes)

yup, those are not database
they just enter the info from the auction sheet into their system for simply viewing
u might ask why do they wanna do the extra work and enter what's on the auction sheet into their system

that's because what's written on the auction sheet are mostly japanese and most don't understand that
so they enter what's on the auction sheet into their system to make it easier for the buyer

here is an example of an auction sheet which i don't know how someone can fake it unless that person is really good in writing japanese

Sigh you don't understand what I showed is not from the auction sheet. Information is from the Japanese MLIT database that seems to be accessible to those services.

They will also have a separate auction sheet which usually shows higher

There are cases where scrut don't have auction sheet and these services will have mileage information (without auction sheets as well)

And um, you do know that there are Japanese proficient Malaysians? My office service desk at least also 5 lol

Is ok bro up to you to believe or not

u do know no matter how much u can fake an auction sheet
that number on the far left of the top is unique
it's an auction number
the top number represent where the car location is
2nd number below is the lot no.

thats the reference number tied to the system and how the buyer can trace back the car if the buyer ever wanted to contact back the seller

when the car arrives here and something is missing(not tally with the picture/auction sheet), that's the number he use as reference to contact back the seller for clarification

just buy the car you really really like,you wouldn't mind if the caris second hand or recond

You can afford to buy an expensive when new car at 2nd hand/recond dealer, but cannot afford to maintain, what's the point?

This post has been edited by RicoT: Aug 25 2019, 09:21 AM