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post Aug 15 2019, 01:54 PM, updated 7y ago

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Hi guys, what is kutu fund? What do you gain from playing this kutu thingy confused.gif
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post Aug 15 2019, 01:54 PM

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A group of people poll money loan to each member for a month, repayment then goes to another member. Cheaper than borrow money from bank for small business.
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post Aug 15 2019, 01:55 PM

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Kutu also have funds ka?
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post Aug 15 2019, 01:55 PM

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kutu so rich.
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post Aug 15 2019, 01:56 PM

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Makciks do it for them to have a reason to make monthly party with friends.
Isn't always about money.
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post Aug 15 2019, 01:56 PM

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but how they profit?
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post Aug 15 2019, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(Level 60 Wizard @ Aug 15 2019, 01:56 PM)
but how they profit?
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its not about profit, its about Force Saving motivation among the group

by the way, by akta its illegal

do it on ur own risk and to minimize risk thats why they always do with friend that they trust. not some outsider lol coz ur money easily gone like that


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QUOTE(aziratul @ Aug 15 2019, 02:13 PM)
its not about profit, its about Force Saving motivation among the group

by the way, by akta its illegal

do it on ur own risk and to minimize risk thats why they always do with friend that they trust. not some outsider lol coz ur money easily gone like that
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but what i heard was, after u pay , u will get additional money in return

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post Aug 15 2019, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(Level 60 Wizard @ Aug 15 2019, 01:56 PM)
but how they profit?
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its not profit oriented
merely like borrowing from a friend

https://m.utusan.com.my/rencana/utama/kutu-oh-kutu-1.758853
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post Aug 15 2019, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(Level 60 Wizard @ Aug 15 2019, 02:15 PM)
but what i heard was, after u pay , u will get additional money in return

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thats wrong concept

kutu you will never receive additional money

example 12 person do kutu with each person contribute 100 ringgit

that 12 person will then choose which month to receive money. So person 1 maybe take january and last person take December. Person 1 will receive 100 X 12 person = 1200 ringgit for that month and remaining month, he/she need to pay 100 each month without receiving any more money. That last person who take December, will only receive his money on December. From Januari to december he still need to fork out his 100 ringgit per month

that is not additional money, it just force saving
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QUOTE(bukechi @ Aug 15 2019, 02:18 PM)
its not profit oriented
merely like borrowing from a friend

https://m.utusan.com.my/rencana/utama/kutu-oh-kutu-1.758853
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QUOTE(aziratul @ Aug 15 2019, 02:20 PM)
thats wrong concept

kutu you will never receive additional money

example 12 person do kutu with each person contribute 100 ringgit

that 12 person will then choose which month to receive money. So person 1 maybe take january and last person take December. Person 1 will receive 100 X 12 person = 1200 ringgit for that month and remaining month, he/she need to pay 100 each month without receiving any more money. That last person who take December, will only receive his money on December. From Januari to december he still need to fork out his 100 ringgit per month

that is not additional money, it just force saving
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i see now. thanks alot guys!
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post Aug 15 2019, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Maja Helmi @ Aug 15 2019, 01:56 PM)
Makciks do it for them to have a reason to make monthly party with friends.
Isn't always about money.
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Not about money, yeah right.

QUOTE(aziratul @ Aug 15 2019, 02:20 PM)
thats wrong concept

kutu you will never receive additional money

example 12 person do kutu with each person contribute 100 ringgit

that 12 person will then choose which month to receive money. So person 1 maybe take january and last person take December. Person 1 will receive 100 X 12 person = 1200 ringgit for that month and remaining month, he/she need to pay 100 each month without receiving any more money. That last person who take December, will only receive his money on December. From Januari to december he still need to fork out his 100 ringgit per month

that is not additional money, it just force saving
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Your version is not attractive. Those who receive later lose out in opportunity cost. No money to gain and risk of losing money (banker cabut).

The version I heard of:
1. The desperate one can borrow from the fund
2. The one whose turn to receive money can opt to lend to those who need money, with interest payable.
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post Aug 15 2019, 02:28 PM

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why mother kutu like to take first month? as enforcer, she should take last.
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post Aug 15 2019, 02:29 PM

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if your turn is at month 10 like playing with other 9 contributors at rm100/pax

might as well just bank in every month to your saving account, same also gets rm1k at month 10
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Aug 15 2019, 02:27 PM)
Not about money, yeah right.
Your version is not attractive. Those who receive later lose out in opportunity cost. No money to gain and risk of losing money (banker cabut).

The version I heard of:
1. The desperate one can borrow from the fund
2. The one whose turn to receive money can opt to lend to those who need money, with interest payable.
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That is why it is illegal. Law prohibit it because anytime banker can cabut from the group if he/she want too. Thats why people do kutu in small group / family / friend / coworkers only. But then also can happen that some escape paying because already got his / her money earlier

And why my version is wrong? That is kutu definition, other than that its pure Pyramid Scheme Cepat Kaya <<<<<< the version of you heard


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post Aug 15 2019, 02:32 PM

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I observe it is maninly aweks that do this kind of thing at my workplace.
Imho better to save in asb. But I understand the temptation for quick and large sum for impulse spending.
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QUOTE(aziratul @ Aug 15 2019, 02:20 PM)
thats wrong concept

kutu you will never receive additional money

example 12 person do kutu with each person contribute 100 ringgit

that 12 person will then choose which month to receive money. So person 1 maybe take january and last person take December. Person 1 will receive 100 X 12 person = 1200 ringgit for that month and remaining month, he/she need to pay 100 each month without receiving any more money. That last person who take December, will only receive his money on December. From Januari to december he still need to fork out his 100 ringgit per month

that is not additional money, it just force saving
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Get RM1200 as modal to do bisnez than profit! Maybe profit RM500..then pay back other members to do bisnez...kan untung this kutu game thing
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QUOTE(ThirdSon @ Aug 15 2019, 02:29 PM)
if your turn is at month 10 like playing with other 9 contributors at rm100/pax

might as well just bank in every month to your saving account, same also gets rm1k at month 10
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Some people do it because its like a motivation / or force saving. Some people cant even commit to save the money by oneself. Thats why KUTU happen.

Thats all, no need to overthink it. Lol
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QUOTE(aaronkinesis @ Aug 15 2019, 02:34 PM)
Get RM1200 as modal to do bisnez than profit! Maybe profit RM500..then pay back other members to do bisnez...kan untung this kutu game thing
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It does not work that way. Lol
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post Aug 15 2019, 02:38 PM

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Quick way to borrow money, minus any interest.
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post Aug 15 2019, 02:39 PM

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Force saving.
And actually kutu situation like this.

Imagine that u need to pay road tax and insurance.
forgot didnt save money earlier. Simpan 100 a month kenot cukup. So join kutu 12 ppl = RM1200.

So just say to the keeper, u need to pay insurance on February. So in February, Instead of having only RM600, u get RM1200. Then after that u need to continue paying.

But, kutu is illegal yo.

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QUOTE(aziratul @ Aug 15 2019, 02:32 PM)
That is why it is illegal. Law prohibit it because anytime banker can cabut from the group if he/she want too. Thats why people do kutu in small group / family / friend / coworkers only. But then also can happen that some escape paying because already got his / her money earlier

And why my version is wrong? That is kutu definition, other than that its pure Pyramid Scheme Cepat Kaya <<<<<< the version of you heard
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I said your version is not attractive. I didn't say it's wrong.
When there is risk, there must be some gain before it's accepted. Your version has all the risk but little gain, if any.
My version is not cepat kaya. RM100 pm will not make you cepat kaya. It's the ability to borrow money at short notice. You'll have to pay back with interest (this is the main difference between kutu and cepat kaya) if you still want these people to be your friends and neighbours.

And I'm fully aware it's illegal.
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QUOTE(aziratul @ Aug 15 2019, 02:20 PM)
thats wrong concept

kutu you will never receive additional money

example 12 person do kutu with each person contribute 100 ringgit

that 12 person will then choose which month to receive money. So person 1 maybe take january and last person take December. Person 1 will receive 100 X 12 person = 1200 ringgit for that month and remaining month, he/she need to pay 100 each month without receiving any more money. That last person who take December, will only receive his money on December. From Januari to december he still need to fork out his 100 ringgit per month

that is not additional money, it just force saving
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thats the concept but usually macha B will come along and say no money for 3-5 months or outright lari, then they onself rugi.
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QUOTE(Level 60 Wizard @ Aug 15 2019, 01:56 PM)
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There is no profit, just rolling ur money
Say 12 persons, each person will pick 1 month that they would like to get the money

For example if u have to renew ur road tax on August, so u need extra money, so u pick August
Then from Jan onwards u will pay 100 bucks to the collector...u have to pay this until December
When it's August, u will get paid 1200 bucks

I play this since my old colleagues ajak me....nothing much just treat it as a small saving
Because if u dont pay that 100, end of the month u wont see that money also
So u pay them, at least during August u can see 1.2k

The amount of money played is all up to the group to set

Right now i am playing 400bucks a month
i my turn to get money is sept oct nov dec
So during these months i will get 1.2k each month brows.gif
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QUOTE(Jas2davir @ Aug 15 2019, 02:46 PM)
thats the concept but usually macha B will come along and say no money for 3-5 months or outright lari, then they onself rugi.
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I never played with macha, if you know what i mean

All my kutu fellows are racing m colleagues
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QUOTE(Docile @ Aug 15 2019, 02:52 PM)
I never played with macha, if you know what i mean

All my kutu fellows are racing m colleagues
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idk man everytime i hear someone talk about kutu 11/10 times its a yindian. Not once i see cinis or tuan bumi punya asked to join their kutu, maybe they see me poor feg no have money for big boy league kutu?
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Aug 15 2019, 02:39 PM)
I said your version is not attractive. I didn't say it's wrong.
When there is risk, there must be some gain before it's accepted. Your version has all the risk but little gain, if any.
My version is not cepat kaya. RM100 pm will not make you cepat kaya. It's the ability to borrow money at short notice. You'll have to pay back with interest (this is the main difference between kutu and cepat kaya) if you still want these people to be your friends and neighbours.

And I'm fully aware it's illegal.
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Alrite. Sorry for that

So yours not KUTU then

Kutu will never implement interest
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QUOTE(Jas2davir @ Aug 15 2019, 02:54 PM)
idk man everytime i hear someone talk about kutu 11/10 times its a yindian. Not once i see cinis or tuan bumi punya asked to join their kutu, maybe they see me poor feg no have money for  big boy league kutu?
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i pernah join yindian one once... first and last time lol

my racing m colleagues are very familiar and comfortable with me that's why they ajak me, even now i am no longer working with them
have been playing with them for over 4-5 yrs already
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QUOTE(noobmaster99 @ Aug 15 2019, 02:54 PM)
Hi guys, what is kutu fund? What do you gain from playing this kutu thingy  confused.gif
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gain kutukan from pious neighbours
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for me.. all of us is male.
mostly of my kutu member are teachers with RM250.00 per month for 12 people..
the u do know how much per month we do get then. happy.gif

we do not have bankers but only chat via whatsapp, but we all are know each other so we trust each other. every month the person who got the money will give his acc. number for us to bank in.

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stupiak concept, once already got item/full money, suddenly very hard to contribute.

school time got play this, people that in the last of rotation habuk pon tak dapat. luckily the amount is small.
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untuk giliran bulanan kami open untuk first come first reserve.
then kalau ade yg nk ubah giliran bleh deal with that person personally.
macam aku ade kawtim ngan kawan bulan 6 aku n ABU kongsi sparuh,
then bulan 12 Abu n aku kongsi sparuh.
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QUOTE(Level 60 Wizard @ Aug 15 2019, 01:56 PM)
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For Chinese kutu, they will profit. But you must make sure that you know all these kutu members, if not later they disappeared habis your investment.

For example the kutu group has 10 participants and monthly kutu contribution is RM100. Start month 1, these 10 participants will meet to bid who gets the kutu fund first. The person who bid the lowest will win the kutu fund for month 1. Say I am in, but I do not intend to bid on month 1, I can refrain from bidding, and let the rest who needs the money to bid. If someone needs money badly, they may bid low say RM85, some bid RM96, etc. so the RM85 bidder will win the bid and all the 9 participants will give him RM85 only.

Month2: The one already bid cannot bid anymore, will only service the kutu for remaining 9 months x RM100 each month. Remaining 9 bidders repeat. So the last person i.e., 10th participants at the end of 10th month collects 9 xRM100
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did it before with 3 of my colleagues, every month pass RM 200 to one of them by taking turns, when it's your turn you'll get back RM 600 you give out before.

It's not about profit, more like forcing yourself to save money.

Main problem if one of you stop passing their money so have to be sure they're not those money leeching type.
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QUOTE(Docile @ Aug 15 2019, 02:57 PM)
i pernah join yindian one once... first and last time lol

my racing m colleagues are very familiar and comfortable with me that's why they ajak me, even now i am no longer working with them
have been playing with them for over 4-5 yrs already
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kasi certia sikit what happened to the yindian one? i never join kutu before my scamdar start ringing when someone offers kutu.
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No gain unless u r the first in turn
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QUOTE(Docile @ Aug 15 2019, 02:50 PM)
There is no profit, just rolling ur money
Say 12 persons, each person will pick 1 month that they would like to get the money

For example if u have to renew ur road tax on August, so u need extra money, so u pick August
Then from Jan onwards u will pay 100 bucks to the collector...u have to pay this until December
When it's August, u will get paid 1200 bucks

I play this since my old colleagues ajak me....nothing much just treat it as a small saving
Because if u dont pay that 100, end of the month u wont see that money also
So u pay them, at least during August u can see 1.2k

The amount of money played is all up to the group to set

Right now i am playing 400bucks a month
i my turn to get money is sept oct nov dec
So during these months i will get 1.2k each month  brows.gif
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i see now. thanks for the sharing bro!

now i know nod.gif

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ayam currently playing kutu with my 9 koliks

but not much la, rm100/month only

my turn last april, manyak syok dapat lump sum rm900.

so yeah it got no profit in terms of money. but u can benefit from getting quick cash but din want to borrow etc.
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QUOTE(Docile @ Aug 15 2019, 02:50 PM)
There is no profit, just rolling ur money
Say 12 persons, each person will pick 1 month that they would like to get the money

For example if u have to renew ur road tax on August, so u need extra money, so u pick August
Then from Jan onwards u will pay 100 bucks to the collector...u have to pay this until December
When it's August, u will get paid 1200 bucks

I play this since my old colleagues ajak me....nothing much just treat it as a small saving
Because if u dont pay that 100, end of the month u wont see that money also
So u pay them, at least during August u can see 1.2k

The amount of money played is all up to the group to set

Right now i am playing 400bucks a month
i my turn to get money is sept oct nov dec
So during these months i will get 1.2k each month  brows.gif
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Hope ur koliq run away with ur money
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QUOTE(Jas2davir @ Aug 15 2019, 03:12 PM)
kasi certia sikit what happened to the yindian one? i never join kutu before my scamdar start ringing when someone offers kutu.
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The collector was a yindian and having hardtime collecting money from the rest of the yindian member
As for me everymonth salary in i straight bank in money to the collector....
But until my turn to get money, no news nothing, i have to ask the collector, and she said she is still trying to get money from those member...

So ayam unhappy

Damn it some peoples already know they need to pay, but pretend dunno
Don't they realize that by pretending dunno, they would still need to pay by end of the day
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QUOTE(Docile @ Aug 15 2019, 03:26 PM)
The collector was a yindian and having hardtime collecting money from the rest of the yindian member
As for me everymonth salary in i straight bank in money to the collector....
But until my turn to get money, no news nothing, i have to ask the collector, and she said she is still trying to get money from those member...

So ayam unhappy

Damn it some peoples already know they need to pay, but pretend dunno
Don't they realize that by pretending dunno, they would still need to pay by end of the day
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sounds bad, hopefully you got paid in the end.
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i play kutu to save up to pay for my yearly car insurance.

damn it works like a charm.
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QUOTE(Jas2davir @ Aug 15 2019, 03:28 PM)
sounds bad, hopefully you got paid in the end.
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I did, but never wanna have that experience again
Unreliable, not to mention selfish
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learn to save, and you wont even need to know the meaning of kutu let alone hear of it.

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