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Why Mahathir better than you fagguts
Why Mahathir better than you fagguts
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lol, marahnya.
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lol at ppl standing up to politicians
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Aug 14 2019, 11:08 AM
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Like it or not, the minority does not have the numbers to change anything. It's the majority that will decide Malaysia's future in the next GE.
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remember last year?
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Aug 14 2019, 11:09 AM
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Summary: DrM > /k tarts.
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yang penting, movie dah buat
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I am Chinese. Actually I feel shame sometimes.
Some point I want to point out. 1) Many stupid Chinese thought DAP = Chinese. DAP already said many times, DAP is a multiracial party 2) Many stupid Chinese thought they can alter the GE result. In fact, those stupid faggot can't do shit. Only one People have one vote. If want to alter GE result, born more babies and continue born more for 20, 30 years. 3) They laughed on those who feel uncomfortable when saw a cross. They forgot they also feel uncomfortable when see bean sprout wording. 4) UEC exam. Just how many % of people styding UEC? 100% of people I know have SPM cert. And 10% of people I know SPM + UEC. If you are not capable to take up SPM 3 languages, feel free to drop the subject you can't coupe. Qualify UEC is always a stupid request. many more... You can see, is not all Chinese who are like that. Take khat as example. A portion of us hate it. A portion of us feels like nothing special. This post has been edited by e_mc_square: Aug 14 2019, 11:17 AM |
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Aug 14 2019, 11:16 AM
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Kinda agree
Bersatu have poor support among malays Last time we have Bijan and Rosmah issue to get the swing malay voters But now Umno and Pas play up race issue and it seems the swing voters are thinking to go backing BN again in next election The Khat issue is just simple gesture - it is a Mahathir way to show the malays that Bersatu is strong and DAP is not racist like ppl love to portray But thanks to all now we can safely said Bersatu is gone for good and they will fold back to Umno and Pas for survival And this swing malay voters will switch from Pakatan back to Umno and Pas In the end Bijan laugh and got out from prison Good job guys - stupid ass |
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i think ph oredi plan to survive in future politics.
when bumi population 70% next 5 years. |
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Aug 14 2019, 11:18 AM
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Still doesn't change the fact small party DAP has 42 seats, more than entire BN combined. It's not about PH it's about BN screwing ppl over for far too long.
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TLDR mana?
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Aug 14 2019, 11:22 AM
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TS, you forgot the swing votes are from malays who do not support greedy politicians and fanatics like zakir naik or Pas. You think liberal malays want to wear kopiah and tudung and being told what to do by clerics? A third force might emerge with Multiracial citizens holding the key. Thanos family are liberals if TS forgot. Think he wants them to suffer after he is gone?
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Too old. Some times old doesn't mean wise. Hmm.. Already very outdated
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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Aug 14 2019, 11:01 AM) Okay genius, let me ask you this: you do realize atok is on a very short borrowed time right?Why we won GE 14? Is it because suddenly theres more chineese voted DAP OR PKR? Or people who voted BN in the past “swing their votes” to PH? If Mahathir didnt join PH, u think these “swing voters” will vote PH? And who are these swing voters? Majority of them are chineese? Or Malay? If you say Chineese, how many Chineese still voted BN in the past? For the last 10 years or so Chineese mostly voted DAP all the way, why didnt they won the election before GE14? Get the picture? Of why you shouldnt concern too much about “chineese identity and ideals”? Or things like ridiculing khat and Zakir Naik that Majority Malays considered as respectable figure? “Owh chineese and nons still vote PH” of course who do you think voted for them for the last 10 years? Does it even matter what nons voted if the deciding factor comes to swing voters who supported Mahathir in PPBM? “DAP hold more chair leh” wanna know why? Because last time swing voters simply vote to oust jibby and rosmah, they dont care about who represent the local polls, as long as BN fall, they just wanted jibby out, THATS THE TRIGGER FACTOR. Now genius, let me ask you this, when jibby is out from BN, whats stopping the malay swing voters from voting back BN and PAS? And do you think Mahathir the master strategist will stay in PH when he sees this? What if PPB SHIFT TO BN ? Thats why I say you short dik cepat pancuted pipu, The identity and privilage of Chineese and other nons are still remains the same, nothing are being “degraded” at all. but you scream and shout when Mahathir wanted to secure loyalty of these swing voters by increasing Bumi recognition such as khat, and simple gesture to help Zakir Naik. Mahathir also pening why these retards make noise? You know or not majority swing voters are Malay? Thats why mahathir do all this just to please the swing voters group. But “genius” and deluded fools like you think we “voters” (as if it includes these swing voters) want more rights for nons, better recognition and abolish bumi recognition and quota lol. And thinking chineese agenda and ideals pushed forward by Dong Zhong are shared among nons like UEC, funding for chineese schools, etc. Dont be so deluded, the reality is in the next GE15, Mahathir want to avoid these swing voters to vote back BN when jibby is out of the picture, the interest of minority does not give much impact towards the majority swing voters interest, you can call these “swing voters” as “king maker” where people thought Pas would be. But last time the hatred of swing voters towards najib was too great to even vote for pas, so now in next GE15, if najib out of the picture you will see many swing voters going back to BN or PAS. Is there anything the swing voters should be afraid of? That BN-PAS coalition fighting for bumi and islamic rights? As long as corrupt najib already out of the picture, you think they will bother anymore? |
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at the end of the day..we pay for our own food
not those so called 'genius' This post has been edited by pronester: Aug 14 2019, 11:26 AM |
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Aug 14 2019, 11:33 AM
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yes he is the best politician that every existed. play politics(race card, crony card whatever), he will win, hands down.
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lol this is the quality of our teacher
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Aug 14 2019, 11:38 AM
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Dong Zong today and BN days always push for UEC to be recognised. They are consistent and i don't see how in any way they are racist. Our federal constitution already lay out our current education foundation. They are just hoping UEC students can enter public universities and get admitted to certain professional bodies
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Aug 14 2019, 11:16 AM) Kinda agree Got tried to explain la, but sabo a bit by mca and umno and you guys straight goes apeshit Bersatu have poor support among malays Last time we have Bijan and Rosmah issue to get the swing malay voters But now Umno and Pas play up race issue and it seems the swing voters are thinking to go backing BN again in next election The Khat issue is just simple gesture - it is a Mahathir way to show the malays that Bersatu is strong and DAP is not racist like ppl love to portray But thanks to all now we can safely said Bersatu is gone for good and they will fold back to Umno and Pas for survival And this swing malay voters will switch from Pakatan back to Umno and Pas In the end Bijan laugh and got out from prison Good job guys - stupid ass https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4821485&hl= |
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wow TS.. thanks captain O.. now we know...
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Minority cant do a shit..
With the # smaller each year.. and bumi % increasing.. What so you think they can do? Nothing.. Thanos see this.. no need to rely on them.. That why can kaw kaw bash dong zhong.. Its future direction |
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QUOTE(TheOnly1 @ Aug 14 2019, 11:38 AM) Dong Zong today and BN days always push for UEC to be recognised. They are consistent and i don't see how in any way they are racist. Our federal constitution already lay out our current education foundation. They are just hoping UEC students can enter public universities and get admitted to certain professional bodies UEC can go dai la. we will reconsider this next ge as this UEC is a new thing in our system. we will push to intro khat for all first.. which is more critical and important for the nation to move fwd since we only have 4 years left to make a change. |
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the funny part of all this is given malaysian short attention span and nearsightedness
if mamak was to pass away in a few years, folks will rally on how great a PM he is |
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Aug 14 2019, 11:42 AM
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I think Tun M is a better lie compare we fagguts.
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GE 13 : PR = 5 million votes
GE 14 : PH = 5 million votes PAS = 2.5 million votes Do the math... |
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I agree. Got a few meleis fren, they're educated, got masters, PHD, from UK uni.
But nowadays, see their fb, is like those low life rempit's fb, malu apa bosskuurr, share bosskuurrr status, agree with them, racing about cainis biadap anti islam, anti jawi, baseball bat killer. With yindian pula racing about puak Modi, anti Islam, potek ZN, justice4adib etc. Bukan semua benda boleh guna logik. |
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Aug 14 2019, 11:41 AM) UEC can go dai la. we will reconsider this next ge as this UEC is a new thing in our system. we will push to intro khat for all first.. which is more critical and important for the nation to move fwd since we only have 4 years left to make a change. Agreed. Khat can also be used to teach science and technology to our students who might find it more interesting than the english language |
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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Aug 14 2019, 11:01 AM) Okay genius, let me ask you this: You miss to highlight... If you go into the statistic... Many seat BN lost where they can win if PAS and BN join in GE14. PH will never win if they join pas and BN in GE14... Minority race don't want to hear that facts.Why we won GE 14? Is it because suddenly theres more chineese voted DAP OR PKR? Or people who voted BN in the past “swing their votes” to PH? If Mahathir didnt join PH, u think these “swing voters” will vote PH? And who are these swing voters? Majority of them are chineese? Or Malay? If you say Chineese, how many Chineese still voted BN in the past? For the last 10 years or so Chineese mostly voted DAP all the way, why didnt they won the election before GE14? Get the picture? Of why you shouldnt concern too much about “chineese identity and ideals”? Or things like ridiculing khat and Zakir Naik that Majority Malays considered as respectable figure? “Owh chineese and nons still vote PH” of course who do you think voted for them for the last 10 years? Does it even matter what nons voted if the deciding factor comes to swing voters who supported Mahathir in PPBM? “DAP hold more chair leh” wanna know why? Because last time swing voters simply vote to oust jibby and rosmah, they dont care about who represent the local polls, as long as BN fall, they just wanted jibby out, THATS THE TRIGGER FACTOR. Now genius, let me ask you this, when jibby is out from BN, whats stopping the malay swing voters from voting back BN and PAS? And do you think Mahathir the master strategist will stay in PH when he sees this? What if PPB SHIFT TO BN ? Thats why I say you short dik cepat pancuted pipu, The identity and privilage of Chineese and other nons are still remains the same, nothing are being “degraded” at all. but you scream and shout when Mahathir wanted to secure loyalty of these swing voters by increasing Bumi recognition such as khat, and simple gesture to help Zakir Naik. Mahathir also pening why these retards make noise? You know or not majority swing voters are Malay? Thats why mahathir do all this just to please the swing voters group. But “genius” and deluded fools like you think we “voters” (as if it includes these swing voters) want more rights for nons, better recognition and abolish bumi recognition and quota lol. And thinking chineese agenda and ideals pushed forward by Dong Zhong are shared among nons like UEC, funding for chineese schools, etc. Dont be so deluded, the reality is in the next GE15, Mahathir want to avoid these swing voters to vote back BN when jibby is out of the picture, the interest of minority does not give much impact towards the majority swing voters interest, you can call these “swing voters” as “king maker” where people thought Pas would be. But last time the hatred of swing voters towards najib was too great to even vote for pas, so now in next GE15, if najib out of the picture you will see many swing voters going back to BN or PAS. Is there anything the swing voters should be afraid of? That BN-PAS coalition fighting for bumi and islamic rights? As long as corrupt najib already out of the picture, you think they will bother anymore? |
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tepuk dada tanya selera, sudah kah anda sedar
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essentially u r saying tun is using education as a tool to gain political mileage. yeah, that is very assuring to people who dont trust the system already.
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he knows PH is losing malay votes really fast because the oppositions r capitalizing on the anti-melayu sentiment.
Adib got murdered? salahan gov for not protecting the malays. the road rage/road bully case? salahan gov for not protecting the malays. backlash by the nons on the khat syllabus? salahan gov for not shutting up the non malays to protect the malays interest. etc etc etc. he knows PKR is donezo. so he's trying to drive up PPBM members registration nationwide. he also dont want to deport zakir naik because majority of the malays support zakir naik. whereas dap is just dap. chinese will always vote for dap because mca is najib's dog. This post has been edited by G_KeN: Aug 14 2019, 11:55 AM |
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I wholeheartedly agree, the only reason GE14 happen was because of Mahathir jump ship and Najib was that incompetent.
That is also the reason why I bantah all of Mahathir's ideas because his interest was never for rakyat, it was just to fix his UMNO party now Cough Bersatu Cough |
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Yes clearly Thanos has better IQ and political knowledge than any \k, so \k shouldn't complain PH anymore because they are not smarter than Thanos. Also smart people like Thanos always fight for the goods of peasants like \k so no reason to complain. Thanks for the info.
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QUOTE(Saltiez @ Aug 14 2019, 11:18 AM) Still doesn't change the fact small party DAP has 42 seats, more than entire BN combined. It's not about PH it's about BN screwing ppl over for far too long. Read my post, already cover this.QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Aug 14 2019, 11:22 AM) TS, you forgot the swing votes are from malays who do not support greedy politicians and fanatics like zakir naik or Pas. You think liberal malays want to wear kopiah and tudung and being told what to do by clerics? A third force might emerge with Multiracial citizens holding the key. Thanos family are liberals if TS forgot. Think he wants them to suffer after he is gone? On the bolded part, news flash, that assumption only shared by the nons.For all we know for most malays these allegations are unfounded and not proven. “liberal malays” group are VERY SMALL, You can see almost all malays dont support siti kassim, LGBT groups, and other things like opening quotas. In fact most Malays nowadays support more progressive Islamic movement that focuses on open debates about religions, comparative religion, corruption free government, Islamic Financing, Clean governance and of course economic support for bumis. The reason why BN lose is that Najib are too corrupt, he took our epf for his stupid project and took down felda (one of the main body that support bumi economic agenda). These malays are not far right who only concern race and religion, the importance of economic development plays a major role too, this is why the swing voters do not vote for najib that causes problems like felda downfall, china debt trap, rosmah luxury trips, jho low exploitations etc. The nons only focuses on “extreme version” of things which make them fail to see why its hard to have malay support their “abolish bumi rights and privilages” ideals. You think theres only “Religious and racist malay” on one end and “liberal and progressive malay” on the other end. But the middle group “Religious and progressive malay” are the main players within the swing voters group that you nons dont realize. These group are the ones who still respect religion and religious figures at heart but also focus on importance of good governance, corruption free, and economic growth of the nation. So theres no “malays that support PH are liberals” at all.. Most of them are religious and progressive, and mostly are ex BN and PAS voters. So get the picture, dont simply think that Bumis suddenly support abolish bumi privilage at all. Do not create your own version of “Liberal Malay” based from your limited understanding of what Malays stands for. |
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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ Aug 14 2019, 11:34 AM) Let unker teach yoooQUOTE(Twenty-Fifth Baam @ Aug 14 2019, 11:38 AM) wait... what? Fine example of “cepat pancut pipu”ts is a teacher? and a racist teacher at it? well, can't say that i am that surprised anyway... that's why our future generations will only continue to be shit When a random guy simply assume Im a teacher you jump into conclusion that I work as a teacher, and then pancut again say future generation gone to shit etc. Its like pancuting machine gun bs sperms.. QUOTE(MyJimmy @ Aug 14 2019, 11:49 AM) You miss to highlight... If you go into the statistic... Many seat BN lost where they can win if PAS and BN join in GE14. PH will never win if they join pas and BN in GE14... Minority race don't want to hear that facts. Agreed, that is why I say swing voters are ex BN and PAS voters.. |
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Aug 14 2019, 12:13 PM
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Spot on bro. These stupid ppls would never want to see the big picture. Too short sighted.
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Aug 14 2019, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Aug 14 2019, 11:30 AM) In this scenario, its not workingAs zakir is calling the nons devils And as such PH suffers infighting Drm got to break from the past formula Of menunggang agama This is the worst thing that can split a nation |
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TS is missing out two important points:
1. Mahathir will not be contesting in GE15 unless he plans to contest at the age of 99 and then ask for 1 year so he can retire at age 100. All the so-called Malay swing votes will evaporate when Mahathir is gone. You think Muhyiddin or Mukhriz can take over his role? 2. Mahathir says and does things for his ego and does not like others restricting him. This is a pushback against DAP above everything else. He is not doing it with GE15 in mind. |
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QUOTE(brapa? @ Aug 14 2019, 12:29 PM) In this scenario, its not working Where got split nation where the ratio here is 75/25. In this ratio... The minority will get in line.As zakir is calling the nons devils And as such PH suffers infighting Drm got to break from the past formula Of menunggang agama This is the worst thing that can split a nation |
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agree with TS.
Redelineation may or may not happen in this term. If redelineation happen in BN term, bye bye la nons. You must hold power in federal government to have better chance in future GE. And changes dont happen in just few years, just because the minority becomes majority of the majority (higher percentage of nons in PH votes) doesnt make them a permanent majority. |
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How many seat did pribumi won? Thats pretty sum out the whole point.
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PPBM would not have won a single seat in GE14 without DAP.
That is confirmed. You think PPBM can win with only 25% Malay support and 0% non-Malay support? |
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QUOTE(MyJimmy @ Aug 14 2019, 12:41 PM) Where got split nation where the ratio here is 75/25. In this ratio... The minority will get in line. Its 62 : 38Thats not a minor minority If used properly, the minorities are very productive Hence they punch above their numbers in economic terms Can Drm attract a bigger malay base And yet also have harmony with the nons ? Yes, he can But With his zakir strategy its not working He needs a new formula |
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QUOTE(brapa? @ Aug 14 2019, 12:29 PM) In this scenario, its not working The ones who inflating zakir naik's roles in Malaysian politics are you guys, you are quick to assume Zakir Naik plays a major role but thats not the case at all.As zakir is calling the nons devils And as such PH suffers infighting Drm got to break from the past formula Of menunggang agama This is the worst thing that can split a nation Mahathir simply wants to show that the new govt will support progressive islam unlike the old authoritative islam like Pas is doing right now. Zakir Naik views are quite different than typical ustaz and muftis, he invites questioning, and promotes open debate, a type of Muslim that are not normally seen in Malaysia. This is a type of muslim are more open, although firm to their belief, they dont get angry when people question their religion, in fact they invite these questions and engage in open debate to prove their points. This is the type of muslim Mahathir wants, not those pak lebai jangan persoal faggots. Like I said, like it or not, majority Malays although they do focus on economics and well being of bumis, they also focus on the importance of religion, specificaly Islam, like it or not the govt need to cater to these demands, this is a democratic country after all. Dont simply label people penunggang agama, so those who support non bumis are what? Penunggang non bumi? NO, it is simply sharing the same views, it simply working together to achieve the same goals, that is to save Malaysia from BN QUOTE(Roblox Malaya @ Aug 14 2019, 12:41 PM) TS is missing out two important points: Of course Mahathir will retire, but that doesnt mean he wont put forward his agenda, we are talking about saving Malaysia after all, dont be so naive thinking "oh the old guy wanna retire he dont care about Malaysia"1. Mahathir will not be contesting in GE15 unless he plans to contest at the age of 99 and then ask for 1 year so he can retire at age 100. All the so-called Malay swing votes will evaporate when Mahathir is gone. You think Muhyiddin or Mukhriz can take over his role? 2. Mahathir says and does things for his ego and does not like others restricting him. This is a pushback against DAP above everything else. He is not doing it with GE15 in mind. thats just simply naive and irresponsible. This post has been edited by NUR_VER.3: Aug 14 2019, 01:07 PM |
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Aug 14 2019, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE(brapa? @ Aug 14 2019, 01:06 PM) Its 62 : 38 Majority politics can overturn the economy of the majority in just one term... But no worries... The minority elders know what the majority can do... The minority will get in line eventually..Thats not a minor minority If used properly, the minorities are very productive Hence they punch above their numbers in economic terms Can Drm attract a bigger malay base And yet also have harmony with the nons ? Yes, he can But With his zakir strategy its not working He needs a new formula |
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Next GE PH have near to 0% chance to win.
Last GE they won bcoz 1) tun added the extra votes that PH need to win 2) they also got votes from umno people who is dissatisfied with najib. Their purpose was to actually reduce votes for umno to force najib to step down. Not to lose 3) they basically got majority of chinese votes. Even with all this, PH actually only got 49% of the total votes. Now why i think PH have very low chance to win next ge 1) those umno voters will go back to voting umno. 2) i predict there will be a high malay voters turnout and lower chinese voters turnout 3) PH disturb smokers 4) PH disturb mamak restaurants 5) PH likes to carik pasal with gov servants, they probably forgot gov servants are also voters. 6) All the promises kat longkang 7) malays pretty much hate DAP right now. 8) chinese also disappointed with DAP 9) there wont be tun in next ge 10) they disturb bsh Theres lots more reasons. I dont think theres anyway they can win. Even the PH macai's here I see already have no more fresh ideas how to protect their masters. |
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Aug 14 2019, 01:20 PM
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Aug 14 2019, 01:21 PM
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stop worship 1 person when thing happened b'cos of many things
madey don't deserve all this, he aint a saint ... |
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Aug 14 2019, 01:22 PM
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Aug 14 2019, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(MyJimmy @ Aug 14 2019, 01:19 PM) Majority politics can overturn the economy of the majority in just one term... But no worries... The minority elders know what the majority can do... The minority will get in line eventually.. If its possible, nep would hv been a successThe malays deserve more than just lip service & empty promises |
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Aug 14 2019, 01:23 PM
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Aug 14 2019, 01:24 PM
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Aug 14 2019, 01:27 PM
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2008 opposition won 4 states,.... got majority votes but not enough seats,.. thats when mamaktir still supporting BN,..
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Aug 14 2019, 01:29 PM
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Thank kit siang for dividing the malays and uniting chinese
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Aug 14 2019, 01:42 PM
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actually i think one important point was left out in this equation.
one of the more important factor PH won was the miscalculation that PAS spoils PH vote, but the strategy stupidly backfired causing BN's the GE. now when BN and PAS play R&R, u think how big a chance PH will win? unless PH use back the shameful gerrymandering method la. redrawn sempadan |
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Aug 14 2019, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE(TheOnly1 @ Aug 14 2019, 11:38 AM) Dong Zong today and BN days always push for UEC to be recognised. They are consistent and i don't see how in any way they are racist. Our federal constitution already lay out our current education foundation. They are just hoping UEC students can enter public universities and get admitted to certain professional bodies UEC can go to hell. also saying Jawi is form of islamisation is not racist and islamphobes? |
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Aug 14 2019, 01:56 PM
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Last GE14 i was very move to vote for PH because of Tun Mahathir and to vote out Najib.
But my area only got DAP and BN. So i go for DAP. If, only if my area got PPBM or Warisan, im totally go for PPBM or Warisan instead of DAP. Conclusion, im 100% agree with TS This post has been edited by addslashes: Aug 14 2019, 01:57 PM |
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Aug 14 2019, 01:57 PM
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The old man repeating all his past mistakes. Never learn from them. Who to support? Old already never mind but still wanna play politics with other parties. Who to maju like this?
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Aug 14 2019, 02:03 PM
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spot on TS
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Aug 14 2019, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 14 2019, 01:36 PM) "SEPANG, Aug 13 — Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad alleged today that Dr Zakir Naik runs the risk of being killed if the controversial televangelist is deported back home to India to face charges of money laundering and inspiring terrorism."Please read between the line, Tun is smart, even dumbass can "interpret his wording" So like it or not ZN will remained here, you guys have to live with it. What a pity...if your life stuck with ZN, please get a life. |
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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Aug 14 2019, 11:56 AM) Read my post, already cover this. ooo...thats where you're wrong boy. The liberals may make up a small percentage but they carry a lot of weight cos they are the middle and upper middle class to high class malays with lots of money due to Thanos and Pak Lah, including najib giving them contracts to keep this segment up against the richer chinese and indians. Royalty included. On the bolded part, news flash, that assumption only shared by the nons. For all we know for most malays these allegations are unfounded and not proven. “liberal malays” group are VERY SMALL, You can see almost all malays dont support siti kassim, LGBT groups, and other things like opening quotas. In fact most Malays nowadays support more progressive Islamic movement that focuses on open debates about religions, comparative religion, corruption free government, Islamic Financing, Clean governance and of course economic support for bumis. The reason why BN lose is that Najib are too corrupt, he took our epf for his stupid project and took down felda (one of the main body that support bumi economic agenda). These malays are not far right who only concern race and religion, the importance of economic development plays a major role too, this is why the swing voters do not vote for najib that causes problems like felda downfall, china debt trap, rosmah luxury trips, jho low exploitations etc. The nons only focuses on “extreme version” of things which make them fail to see why its hard to have malay support their “abolish bumi rights and privilages” ideals. You think theres only “Religious and racist malay” on one end and “liberal and progressive malay” on the other end. But the middle group “Religious and progressive malay” are the main players within the swing voters group that you nons dont realize. These group are the ones who still respect religion and religious figures at heart but also focus on importance of good governance, corruption free, and economic growth of the nation. So theres no “malays that support PH are liberals” at all.. Most of them are religious and progressive, and mostly are ex BN and PAS voters. So get the picture, dont simply think that Bumis suddenly support abolish bumi privilage at all. Do not create your own version of “Liberal Malay” based from your limited understanding of what Malays stands for. Do you think they want their freedom curtailed by religious nuts who only have sex with kids on their mind? Iran just legalised a father's marriage with their own step child...think they do not want to implement rules like these when they are in power, including public whipping for muslims for drinking alchohol (which a lot of them do), no visiting of 4-D shops by muslims..etc.? They will never let a nut job religious politician take over the country, Anwar included with his ABIM bullshit, he's more liberal now compared to his younger days, hence the butt-seks all over the country by his followers. |
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its because of sabah took over many seats from BN, if sabah still safe deposit ph only will win slightly or lose
if win slightly still can cari katak to make it win due to BN are rich |
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QUOTE(sdin3269 @ Aug 14 2019, 02:08 PM) "SEPANG, Aug 13 — Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad alleged today that Dr Zakir Naik runs the risk of being killed if the controversial televangelist is deported back home to India to face charges of money laundering and inspiring terrorism." cherry pick?Please read between the line, Tun is smart, even dumbass can "interpret his wording" So like it or not ZN will remained here, you guys have to live with it. What a pity...if your life stuck with ZN, please get a life. SEPANG, Aug 13 — Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad alleged today that Dr Zakir Naik runs the risk of being killed if the controversial televangelist is deported back home to India to face charges of money laundering and inspiring terrorism. However, the prime minister said he is open to the idea of sending the fugitive Indian national to other countries, following renewed backlash against the preacher for his remarks against local ethnic Indians. “The problem that we face is that we cannot send him back. Because he runs the risk of being killed. “So he is here today, but if any country wants to have him, they are welcome to do so,” Dr Mahathir said following the 21st anniversary of the KLIA airport. Last month, Dr Mahathir had said that Malaysia is not keen for Dr Zakir to be here, but is hard-pressed to deport him elsewhere as “many countries” will not accept the controversial Islamic preacher either. |
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Aug 14 2019, 11:22 AM) TS, you forgot the swing votes are from malays who do not support greedy politicians and fanatics like zakir naik or Pas. You think liberal malays want to wear kopiah and tudung and being told what to do by clerics? A third force might emerge with Multiracial citizens holding the key. Thanos family are liberals if TS forgot. Think he wants them to suffer after he is gone? Rules only apply to the sheep but not the shepherd. This is how religion works, the easiest way to control the crowd. |
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he may send lanunku to jail but his perotiga will fail like baoteng
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Aug 14 2019, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Aug 14 2019, 02:11 PM) ooo...thats where you're wrong boy. The liberals may make up a small percentage but they carry a lot of weight cos they are the middle and upper middle class to high class malays with lots of money due to Thanos and Pak Lah, including najib giving them contracts to keep this segment up against the richer chinese and indians. Royalty included. This is why I say you guys got no idea about swing voters ideals and beliefs.Do you think they want their freedom curtailed by religious nuts who only have sex with kids on their mind? Iran just legalised a father's marriage with their own step child...think they do not want to implement rules like these when they are in power, including public whipping for muslims for drinking alchohol (which a lot of them do), no visiting of 4-D shops by muslims..etc.? They will never let a nut job religious politician take over the country, Anwar included with his ABIM bullshit, he's more liberal now compared to his younger days, hence the butt-seks all over the country by his followers. You simply categorize them as "Liberal Malays" that love to drink alcohol, gamble, LGBT. No capacity to even see anything else either "Religious and racist malay" or "Liberal and LGBT supporter malay" Nothing in the middle, but in truth most Malays are religious at heart, but still open enough to accept other religion in this country, and they are not thinking Race and Religion 24-7, the wellfare of bumi economics plays a huge role, they hated najib for ruining felda (bumi economic body), stealing epf, and rosmah luxury spending. They are Religious and progressive malays, yes, much like current Muslims these days progressive muslims are open to debate, discuss and focuses on economic development of society, these are the Swing voters demographics, they are centrists in nature, far from being Liberals and pak lebais.. And NO, In malaysia centrist and pak lebai(PAS) supporters are much bigger than small potato libtard malays, libtard malays are like a needle in bunch of haystacks jumbled together. And NO, you poor understanding about "religious person love kid brides" are extremely prejudice views about Muslims. Most muslims dont have child brides at all, ESPECIALLY IN MALAYSIA. so please, refrain from shoving your imaginary views of what "religious muslim" are, and start learning about Islam before spouting nonsensical bs that would make Swing voters stray away from voting parties who have no ideas about their beliefs, core values, and interest at all. |
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Aug 14 2019, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Aug 14 2019, 11:45 AM) I agree. Got a few meleis fren, they're educated, got masters, PHD, from UK uni. why should an educated malay suddenly vote for stronger chinese representation against everyting malay and islam? But nowadays, see their fb, is like those low life rempit's fb, malu apa bosskuurr, share bosskuurrr status, agree with them, racing about cainis biadap anti islam, anti jawi, baseball bat killer. With yindian pula racing about puak Modi, anti Islam, potek ZN, justice4adib etc. Bukan semua benda boleh guna logik. GE14 was special due to strong dislike for najib and mahathir as pm was an acceptable alternative |
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Aug 14 2019, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(kaffra @ Aug 14 2019, 04:48 PM) why should an educated malay suddenly vote for stronger chinese representation against everyting malay and islam? Except that everything malay and islam is neither of those. A bunch of penyamuns and penunggang agama liars. All that education, yet cannot think of that.GE14 was special due to strong dislike for najib and mahathir as pm was an acceptable alternative But I suppose they hate the nons even more, so throw all logic out the window. Malu apa bosskuuuurr |
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no worries, more and more chinese business closing down already
cukur lah eventually we can start progressing backwards together |
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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Aug 14 2019, 04:57 PM) Except that everything malay and islam is neither of those. A bunch of penyamuns and penunggang agama liars. All that education, yet cannot think of that. its pretty logical thinking, they got rid of najib but must also be vary of minorities ganging up and taking opportunity with a divided malay base and pushng their own agenda. Mahathir as pm was a great move and reassures the malay community. But I suppose they hate the nons even more, so throw all logic out the window. Malu apa bosskuuuurr |
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QUOTE(kaffra @ Aug 14 2019, 05:18 PM) its pretty logical thinking, they got rid of najib but must also be vary of minorities ganging up and taking opportunity with a divided malay base and pushng their own agenda. Mahathir as pm was a great move and reassures the malay community. And then vote back in the incompetent buffoons that will chase away even more of our nons, ruin our economy even more, and become paria state. Genious. |
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Aug 14 2019, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE(MyJimmy @ Aug 14 2019, 04:42 PM) Yaaaa![]() https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/seco...y-with-malaysia |
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Aug 14 2019, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(brapa? @ Aug 14 2019, 08:08 PM) Nope.. I mean.. I don't compare 2 nation like that. You can proceed if you want to. |
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Aug 14 2019, 09:01 PM
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Aug 14 2019, 09:07 PM
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Mmg kaum mudah lupa like what thanos said
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