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post Aug 14 2019, 11:01 AM, updated 6y ago

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post Aug 14 2019, 11:03 AM

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lol, marahnya.
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Like it or not, the minority does not have the numbers to change anything. It's the majority that will decide Malaysia's future in the next GE.
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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Aug 14 2019, 11:06 AM)
lol at ppl standing up to politicians
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post Aug 14 2019, 11:09 AM

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post Aug 14 2019, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(dawnreaver @ Aug 14 2019, 11:08 AM)
Like it or not, the minority does not have the numbers to change anything. It's the majority that will decide Malaysia's future in the next GE.
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10 pm i oredi know bn kalah when see many perlimen seat in sarawak bn kalah.
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QUOTE(BluePants @ Aug 14 2019, 11:09 AM)
Summary: DrM > /k tarts.

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post Aug 14 2019, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Aug 14 2019, 11:01 AM)
simple gesture to help Zakir Naik.


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U just invoked the name that divided malaysians

& drm got to choose, he wants zakir or a united malaysia ?

The rage will continue
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post Aug 14 2019, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(ikankering @ Aug 14 2019, 11:10 AM)
10 pm i oredi know bn kalah when see many perlimen seat in sarawak bn kalah.
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wrong, bn lost when they lost johor and malacca, sarawak was a small thing but for the first time umno/bn lost their strongest states.
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post Aug 14 2019, 11:14 AM

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I am Chinese. Actually I feel shame sometimes.

Some point I want to point out.

1) Many stupid Chinese thought DAP = Chinese. DAP already said many times, DAP is a multiracial party

2) Many stupid Chinese thought they can alter the GE result. In fact, those stupid faggot can't do shit. Only one People have one vote. If want to alter GE result, born more babies and continue born more for 20, 30 years.

3) They laughed on those who feel uncomfortable when saw a cross. They forgot they also feel uncomfortable when see bean sprout wording.

4) UEC exam. Just how many % of people styding UEC? 100% of people I know have SPM cert. And 10% of people I know SPM + UEC. If you are not capable to take up SPM 3 languages, feel free to drop the subject you can't coupe. Qualify UEC is always a stupid request.

many more...

You can see, is not all Chinese who are like that. Take khat as example. A portion of us hate it. A portion of us feels like nothing special.

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post Aug 14 2019, 11:16 AM

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Kinda agree

Bersatu have poor support among malays

Last time we have Bijan and Rosmah issue to get the swing malay voters

But now Umno and Pas play up race issue and it seems the swing voters are thinking to go backing BN again in next election

The Khat issue is just simple gesture - it is a Mahathir way to show the malays that Bersatu is strong and DAP is not racist like ppl love to portray

But thanks to all now we can safely said Bersatu is gone for good and they will fold back to Umno and Pas for survival

And this swing malay voters will switch from Pakatan back to Umno and Pas

In the end Bijan laugh and got out from prison

Good job guys - stupid ass
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post Aug 14 2019, 11:18 AM

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post Aug 14 2019, 11:18 AM

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i think ph oredi plan to survive in future politics.
when bumi population 70% next 5 years.
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post Aug 14 2019, 11:18 AM

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Still doesn't change the fact small party DAP has 42 seats, more than entire BN combined. It's not about PH it's about BN screwing ppl over for far too long.
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post Aug 14 2019, 11:22 AM

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TS, you forgot the swing votes are from malays who do not support greedy politicians and fanatics like zakir naik or Pas. You think liberal malays want to wear kopiah and tudung and being told what to do by clerics? A third force might emerge with Multiracial citizens holding the key. Thanos family are liberals if TS forgot. Think he wants them to suffer after he is gone?

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Aug 14 2019, 11:01 AM)
Okay genius, let me ask you this:

Why we won GE 14?

Is it because suddenly theres more chineese voted DAP OR PKR?

Or people who voted BN in the past “swing their votes” to PH?

If Mahathir didnt join PH, u think these “swing voters” will vote PH?

And who are these swing voters? Majority of them are chineese? Or Malay?

If you say Chineese, how many Chineese still voted BN in the past? For the last 10 years or so Chineese mostly voted DAP all the way, why didnt they won the election before GE14?

Get the picture? Of why you shouldnt concern too much about “chineese identity and ideals”? Or things like ridiculing khat and Zakir Naik that Majority Malays considered as respectable figure?

“Owh chineese and nons still vote PH” of course who do you think voted for them for the last 10 years?

Does it even matter what nons voted if the deciding factor comes to swing voters who supported Mahathir in PPBM?

“DAP hold more chair leh” wanna know why? Because last time swing voters simply vote to oust jibby and rosmah, they dont care about who represent the local polls, as long as BN fall, they just wanted jibby out, THATS THE TRIGGER FACTOR.

Now genius, let me ask you this, when jibby is out from BN, whats stopping the malay swing voters from voting back BN and PAS? And do you think Mahathir the master strategist will stay in PH when he sees this? What if PPB SHIFT TO BN ?

Thats why I say you short dik cepat pancuted pipu, The identity and privilage of Chineese and other nons are still remains the same, nothing are being “degraded” at all.

but you scream and shout when Mahathir wanted to secure loyalty of these swing voters by increasing Bumi recognition such as khat, and simple gesture to help Zakir Naik.

Mahathir also pening why these retards make noise? You know or not majority swing voters are Malay? Thats why mahathir do all this just to please the swing voters group.

But “genius” and deluded fools like you think we “voters” (as if it includes these swing voters)  want more rights for nons, better recognition and abolish bumi recognition and quota lol.

And thinking chineese agenda and ideals pushed forward by Dong Zhong are shared among nons like UEC, funding for chineese schools, etc.

Dont be so deluded, the reality is in the next GE15, Mahathir want to avoid these swing voters to vote back BN when jibby is out of the picture, the interest of minority does not give much impact towards the majority swing voters interest, you can call these “swing voters” as “king maker” where people thought Pas would be.

But last time the hatred of swing voters towards najib was too great to even vote for pas, so now in next GE15, if najib out of the picture you will see many swing voters going back to BN or PAS.

Is there anything the swing voters should be afraid of? That BN-PAS coalition fighting for bumi and islamic rights? As long as corrupt najib already out of the picture, you think they will bother anymore?
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post Aug 14 2019, 11:26 AM

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at the end of the day..we pay for our own food
not those so called 'genius'

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QUOTE(brapa? @ Aug 14 2019, 11:12 AM)
U just invoked the name that divided malaysians

& drm got to choose, he wants zakir or a united malaysia ?

The rage will continue
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He wants to secure swing voters interest, nons will vote PH regardless..

Get the picture?
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QUOTE(dawnreaver @ Aug 14 2019, 11:08 AM)
Like it or not, the minority does not have the numbers to change anything. It's the majority that will decide Malaysia's future in the next GE.
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Not if you play the game smartly.

If nobody play smartly, you will definitely be in a worse situation than now.
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post Aug 14 2019, 11:33 AM

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yes he is the best politician that every existed. play politics(race card, crony card whatever), he will win, hands down.
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post Aug 14 2019, 11:34 AM

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lol this is the quality of our teacher
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post Aug 14 2019, 11:38 AM

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Dong Zong today and BN days always push for UEC to be recognised. They are consistent and i don't see how in any way they are racist. Our federal constitution already lay out our current education foundation. They are just hoping UEC students can enter public universities and get admitted to certain professional bodies
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Aug 14 2019, 11:16 AM)
Kinda agree

Bersatu have poor support among malays

Last time we have Bijan and Rosmah issue to get the swing malay voters

But now Umno and Pas play up race issue and it seems the swing voters are thinking to go backing BN again in next election

The Khat issue is just simple gesture - it is a Mahathir way to show the malays that Bersatu is strong and DAP is not racist like ppl love to portray

But thanks to all now we can safely said Bersatu is gone for good and they will fold back to Umno and Pas for survival

And this swing malay voters will switch from Pakatan back to Umno and Pas

In the end Bijan laugh and got out from prison

Good job guys - stupid ass
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Got tried to explain la, but sabo a bit by mca and umno and you guys straight goes apeshit rolleyes.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4821485&hl=
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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ Aug 14 2019, 11:34 AM)
lol this is the quality of our teacher
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wait... what?

ts is a teacher? and a racist teacher at it?

well, can't say that i am that surprised anyway... that's why our future generations will only continue to be shit
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post Aug 14 2019, 11:39 AM

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wow TS.. thanks captain O.. now we know... laugh.gif


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Minority cant do a shit..
With the # smaller each year.. and bumi % increasing..

What so you think they can do? Nothing..
Thanos see this.. no need to rely on them..

That why can kaw kaw bash dong zhong..
Its future direction
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QUOTE(TheOnly1 @ Aug 14 2019, 11:38 AM)
Dong Zong today and BN days always push for UEC to be recognised. They are consistent and i don't see how in any way they are racist. Our federal constitution already lay out our current education foundation. They are just hoping UEC students can enter public universities and get admitted to certain professional bodies
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UEC can go dai la. we will reconsider this next ge as this UEC is a new thing in our system. we will push to intro khat for all first.. which is more critical and important for the nation to move fwd since we only have 4 years left to make a change.
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the funny part of all this is given malaysian short attention span and nearsightedness

if mamak was to pass away in a few years, folks will rally on how great a PM he is
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I think Tun M is a better lie compare we fagguts.
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GE 13 : PR = 5 million votes

GE 14 : PH = 5 million votes
PAS = 2.5 million votes

Do the math...

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I agree. Got a few meleis fren, they're educated, got masters, PHD, from UK uni.

But nowadays, see their fb, is like those low life rempit's fb, malu apa bosskuurr, share bosskuurrr status, agree with them, racing about cainis biadap anti islam, anti jawi, baseball bat killer. With yindian pula racing about puak Modi, anti Islam, potek ZN, justice4adib etc.

Bukan semua benda boleh guna logik.
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QUOTE(NataM @ Aug 14 2019, 11:10 AM)
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Aug 14 2019, 11:41 AM)
UEC can go dai la. we will reconsider this next ge as this UEC is a new thing in our system. we will push to intro khat for all first.. which is more critical and important for the nation to move fwd since we only have 4 years left to make a change.
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Agreed. Khat can also be used to teach science and technology to our students who might find it more interesting than the english language
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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Aug 14 2019, 11:01 AM)
Okay genius, let me ask you this:

Why we won GE 14?

Is it because suddenly theres more chineese voted DAP OR PKR?

Or people who voted BN in the past “swing their votes” to PH?

If Mahathir didnt join PH, u think these “swing voters” will vote PH?

And who are these swing voters? Majority of them are chineese? Or Malay?

If you say Chineese, how many Chineese still voted BN in the past? For the last 10 years or so Chineese mostly voted DAP all the way, why didnt they won the election before GE14?

Get the picture? Of why you shouldnt concern too much about “chineese identity and ideals”? Or things like ridiculing khat and Zakir Naik that Majority Malays considered as respectable figure?

“Owh chineese and nons still vote PH” of course who do you think voted for them for the last 10 years?

Does it even matter what nons voted if the deciding factor comes to swing voters who supported Mahathir in PPBM?

“DAP hold more chair leh” wanna know why? Because last time swing voters simply vote to oust jibby and rosmah, they dont care about who represent the local polls, as long as BN fall, they just wanted jibby out, THATS THE TRIGGER FACTOR.

Now genius, let me ask you this, when jibby is out from BN, whats stopping the malay swing voters from voting back BN and PAS? And do you think Mahathir the master strategist will stay in PH when he sees this? What if PPB SHIFT TO BN ?

Thats why I say you short dik cepat pancuted pipu, The identity and privilage of Chineese and other nons are still remains the same, nothing are being “degraded” at all.

but you scream and shout when Mahathir wanted to secure loyalty of these swing voters by increasing Bumi recognition such as khat, and simple gesture to help Zakir Naik.

Mahathir also pening why these retards make noise? You know or not majority swing voters are Malay? Thats why mahathir do all this just to please the swing voters group.

But “genius” and deluded fools like you think we “voters” (as if it includes these swing voters)  want more rights for nons, better recognition and abolish bumi recognition and quota lol.

And thinking chineese agenda and ideals pushed forward by Dong Zhong are shared among nons like UEC, funding for chineese schools, etc.

Dont be so deluded, the reality is in the next GE15, Mahathir want to avoid these swing voters to vote back BN when jibby is out of the picture, the interest of minority does not give much impact towards the majority swing voters interest, you can call these “swing voters” as “king maker” where people thought Pas would be.

But last time the hatred of swing voters towards najib was too great to even vote for pas, so now in next GE15, if najib out of the picture you will see many swing voters going back to BN or PAS.

Is there anything the swing voters should be afraid of? That BN-PAS coalition fighting for bumi and islamic rights? As long as corrupt najib already out of the picture, you think they will bother anymore?
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You miss to highlight... If you go into the statistic... Many seat BN lost where they can win if PAS and BN join in GE14. PH will never win if they join pas and BN in GE14... Minority race don't want to hear that facts.
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QUOTE(Saltiez @ Aug 14 2019, 12:18 PM)
Still doesn't change the fact small party DAP has 42 seats, more than entire BN combined. It's not about PH it's about BN screwing ppl over for far too long.
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Will dap win without Tun?
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essentially u r saying tun is using education as a tool to gain political mileage. yeah, that is very assuring to people who dont trust the system already.
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he knows PH is losing malay votes really fast because the oppositions r capitalizing on the anti-melayu sentiment.

Adib got murdered? salahan gov for not protecting the malays.
the road rage/road bully case? salahan gov for not protecting the malays.
backlash by the nons on the khat syllabus? salahan gov for not shutting up the non malays to protect the malays interest.
etc etc etc.

he knows PKR is donezo. so he's trying to drive up PPBM members registration nationwide. he also dont want to deport zakir naik because majority of the malays support zakir naik. whereas dap is just dap. chinese will always vote for dap because mca is najib's dog.

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I wholeheartedly agree, the only reason GE14 happen was because of Mahathir jump ship and Najib was that incompetent.

That is also the reason why I bantah all of Mahathir's ideas because his interest was never for rakyat, it was just to fix his UMNO party now Cough Bersatu Cough
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Yes clearly Thanos has better IQ and political knowledge than any \k, so \k shouldn't complain PH anymore because they are not smarter than Thanos. Also smart people like Thanos always fight for the goods of peasants like \k so no reason to complain. Thanks for the info.

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QUOTE(Saltiez @ Aug 14 2019, 11:18 AM)
Still doesn't change the fact small party DAP has 42 seats, more than entire BN combined. It's not about PH it's about BN screwing ppl over for far too long.
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Read my post, already cover this.

QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Aug 14 2019, 11:22 AM)
TS, you forgot the swing votes are from malays who do not support greedy politicians and fanatics like zakir naik or Pas. You think liberal malays want to wear kopiah and tudung and being told what to do by clerics? A third force might emerge with Multiracial citizens holding the key. Thanos family are liberals if TS forgot. Think he wants them to suffer after he is gone?
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On the bolded part, news flash, that assumption only shared by the nons.

For all we know for most malays these allegations are unfounded and not proven.

“liberal malays” group are VERY SMALL, You can see almost all malays dont support siti kassim, LGBT groups, and other things like opening quotas.

In fact most Malays nowadays support more progressive Islamic movement that focuses on open debates about religions, comparative religion, corruption free government, Islamic Financing, Clean governance and of course economic support for bumis.

The reason why BN lose is that Najib are too corrupt, he took our epf for his stupid project and took down felda (one of the main body that support bumi economic agenda).

These malays are not far right who only concern race and religion, the importance of economic development plays a major role too, this is why the swing voters do not vote for najib that causes problems like felda downfall, china debt trap, rosmah luxury trips, jho low exploitations etc.

The nons only focuses on “extreme version” of things which make them fail to see why its hard to have malay support their “abolish bumi rights and privilages” ideals.

You think theres only “Religious and racist malay” on one end and “liberal and progressive malay” on the other end.

But the middle group “Religious and progressive malay” are the main players within the swing voters group that you nons dont realize.

These group are the ones who still respect religion and religious figures at heart but also focus on importance of good governance, corruption free, and economic growth of the nation.

So theres no “malays that support PH are liberals” at all..

Most of them are religious and progressive, and mostly are ex BN and PAS voters.

So get the picture, dont simply think that Bumis suddenly support abolish bumi privilage at all. Do not create your own version of “Liberal Malay” based from your limited understanding of what Malays stands for.
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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ Aug 14 2019, 11:34 AM)
lol this is the quality of our teacher
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Let unker teach yooo

QUOTE(Twenty-Fifth Baam @ Aug 14 2019, 11:38 AM)
wait... what?

ts is a teacher? and a racist teacher at it?

well, can't say that i am that surprised anyway... that's why our future generations will only continue to be shit
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Fine example of “cepat pancut pipu”

When a random guy simply assume Im a teacher you jump into conclusion that I work as a teacher, and then pancut again say future generation gone to shit etc.

Its like pancuting machine gun bs sperms..

QUOTE(MyJimmy @ Aug 14 2019, 11:49 AM)
You miss to highlight... If you go into the statistic... Many seat BN lost where they can win if PAS and BN join in GE14. PH will never win if they join pas and BN in GE14... Minority race don't want to hear that facts.
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Agreed, that is why I say swing voters are ex BN and PAS voters..



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Spot on bro. These stupid ppls would never want to see the big picture. Too short sighted.
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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Aug 14 2019, 11:30 AM)
He wants to secure swing voters interest, nons will vote PH regardless..

Get the picture?
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In this scenario, its not working
As zakir is calling the nons devils
And as such PH suffers infighting

Drm got to break from the past formula
Of menunggang agama

This is the worst thing that can split a nation
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TS is missing out two important points:

1. Mahathir will not be contesting in GE15 unless he plans to contest at the age of 99 and then ask for 1 year so he can retire at age 100.

All the so-called Malay swing votes will evaporate when Mahathir is gone. You think Muhyiddin or Mukhriz can take over his role?

2. Mahathir says and does things for his ego and does not like others restricting him. This is a pushback against DAP above everything else.

He is not doing it with GE15 in mind.


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QUOTE(brapa? @ Aug 14 2019, 12:29 PM)
In this scenario, its not working
As zakir is calling the nons devils
And as such PH suffers infighting

Drm got to break from the past formula
Of menunggang agama

This is the worst thing that can split a nation
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Where got split nation where the ratio here is 75/25. In this ratio... The minority will get in line.
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agree with TS.

Redelineation may or may not happen in this term.
If redelineation happen in BN term, bye bye la nons.

You must hold power in federal government to have better chance in future GE.

And changes dont happen in just few years, just because the minority becomes majority of the majority (higher percentage of nons in PH votes) doesnt make them a permanent majority.
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How many seat did pribumi won? Thats pretty sum out the whole point.
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PPBM would not have won a single seat in GE14 without DAP.

That is confirmed.

You think PPBM can win with only 25% Malay support and 0% non-Malay support?
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QUOTE(MyJimmy @ Aug 14 2019, 12:41 PM)
Where got split nation where the ratio here is 75/25. In this ratio... The minority will get in line.
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Its 62 : 38
Thats not a minor minority
If used properly, the minorities are very productive
Hence they punch above their numbers in economic terms

Can Drm attract a bigger malay base
And yet also have harmony with the nons ?

Yes, he can

But With his zakir strategy its not working

He needs a new formula
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QUOTE(brapa? @ Aug 14 2019, 12:29 PM)
In this scenario, its not working
As zakir is calling the nons devils
And as such PH suffers infighting

Drm got to break from the past formula
Of menunggang agama

This is the worst thing that can split a nation
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The ones who inflating zakir naik's roles in Malaysian politics are you guys, you are quick to assume Zakir Naik plays a major role but thats not the case at all.

Mahathir simply wants to show that the new govt will support progressive islam unlike the old authoritative islam like Pas is doing right now.

Zakir Naik views are quite different than typical ustaz and muftis, he invites questioning, and promotes open debate, a type of Muslim that are not normally seen in Malaysia.

This is a type of muslim are more open, although firm to their belief, they dont get angry when people question their religion, in fact they invite these questions and engage in open debate to prove their points.

This is the type of muslim Mahathir wants, not those pak lebai jangan persoal faggots.

Like I said, like it or not, majority Malays although they do focus on economics and well being of bumis, they also focus on the importance of religion, specificaly Islam, like it or not the govt need to cater to these demands, this is a democratic country after all.

Dont simply label people penunggang agama, so those who support non bumis are what? Penunggang non bumi?

NO, it is simply sharing the same views, it simply working together to achieve the same goals, that is to save Malaysia from BN

QUOTE(Roblox Malaya @ Aug 14 2019, 12:41 PM)
TS is missing out two important points:

1. Mahathir will not be contesting in GE15 unless he plans to contest at the age of 99 and then ask for 1 year so he can retire at age 100.

All the so-called Malay swing votes will evaporate when Mahathir is gone. You think Muhyiddin or Mukhriz can take over his role?

2. Mahathir says and does things for his ego and does not like others restricting him. This is a pushback against DAP above everything else.

He is not doing it with GE15 in mind.
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Of course Mahathir will retire, but that doesnt mean he wont put forward his agenda, we are talking about saving Malaysia after all, dont be so naive thinking "oh the old guy wanna retire he dont care about Malaysia"

thats just simply naive and irresponsible.

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Aug 14 2019, 01:06 PM)

Mahathir simply wants to show that the new govt will support progressive islam unlike the old authoritative islam like Pas is doing right now.

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In tht case, drm's solution is very simple
Get rid of zakir
Find a suitable agama horse from the respected al azhar U
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QUOTE(brapa? @ Aug 14 2019, 01:06 PM)
Its 62 : 38
Thats not a minor minority
If used properly, the minorities are very productive
Hence they punch above their numbers in economic terms

Can Drm attract a bigger malay base
And yet also have harmony with the nons ?

Yes, he can

But With his zakir strategy its not working

He needs a new formula
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Majority politics can overturn the economy of the majority in just one term... But no worries... The minority elders know what the majority can do... The minority will get in line eventually..
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Next GE PH have near to 0% chance to win.

Last GE they won bcoz
1) tun added the extra votes that PH need to win
2) they also got votes from umno people who is dissatisfied with najib. Their purpose was to actually reduce votes for umno to force najib to step down. Not to lose
3) they basically got majority of chinese votes.

Even with all this, PH actually only got 49% of the total votes. Now why i think PH have very low chance to win next ge

1) those umno voters will go back to voting umno.
2) i predict there will be a high malay voters turnout and lower chinese voters turnout
3) PH disturb smokers
4) PH disturb mamak restaurants
5) PH likes to carik pasal with gov servants, they probably forgot gov servants are also voters.
6) All the promises kat longkang
7) malays pretty much hate DAP right now.
8) chinese also disappointed with DAP
9) there wont be tun in next ge
10) they disturb bsh

Theres lots more reasons. I dont think theres anyway they can win.

Even the PH macai's here I see already have no more fresh ideas how to protect their masters.
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QUOTE(brapa? @ Aug 14 2019, 01:13 PM)
In tht case, drm's solution is very simple
Get rid of zakir
Find a suitable agama horse from the respected al azhar U
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Why get rid of zakir?

because the minority make noise while the ones Mahathir want impress didnt have problems with it?
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stop worship 1 person when thing happened b'cos of many things

madey don't deserve all this, he aint a saint ...
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QUOTE(MyJimmy @ Aug 14 2019, 01:19 PM)
Majority politics can overturn the economy of the majority in just one term... But no worries... The minority elders know what the majority can do... The minority will get in line eventually..
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If its possible, nep would hv been a success
The malays deserve more than just lip service
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Why get rid of zakir?

because the minority make noise while the ones Mahathir want impress didnt have problems with it?
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2008 opposition won 4 states,.... got majority votes but not enough seats,.. thats when mamaktir still supporting BN,..
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Thank kit siang for dividing the malays and uniting chinese
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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Aug 14 2019, 01:20 PM)
Why get rid of zakir?

because the minority make noise while the ones Mahathir want impress didnt have problems with it?
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Er...mahathir actually said otherwise. he feels ZN is not what malaysia wants, go google it.


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actually i think one important point was left out in this equation.

one of the more important factor PH won was the miscalculation that PAS spoils PH vote, but the strategy stupidly backfired causing BN's the GE.

now when BN and PAS play R&R, u think how big a chance PH will win? unless PH use back the shameful gerrymandering method la. redrawn sempadan
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QUOTE(TheOnly1 @ Aug 14 2019, 11:38 AM)
Dong Zong today and BN days always push for UEC to be recognised. They are consistent and i don't see how in any way they are racist. Our federal constitution already lay out our current education foundation. They are just hoping UEC students can enter public universities and get admitted to certain professional bodies
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UEC can go to hell. also saying Jawi is form of islamisation is not racist and islamphobes?
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Last GE14 i was very move to vote for PH because of Tun Mahathir and to vote out Najib.
But my area only got DAP and BN. So i go for DAP. If, only if my area got PPBM or Warisan, im totally go for PPBM or Warisan instead of DAP.

Conclusion, im 100% agree with TS

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The old man repeating all his past mistakes. Never learn from them. Who to support? Old already never mind but still wanna play politics with other parties. Who to maju like this?
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 14 2019, 01:36 PM)
Er...mahathir actually said otherwise. he feels ZN is not what malaysia wants, go google it.
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"SEPANG, Aug 13 — Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad alleged today that Dr Zakir Naik runs the risk of being killed if the controversial televangelist is deported back home to India to face charges of money laundering and inspiring terrorism."

Please read between the line, Tun is smart, even dumbass can "interpret his wording"

So like it or not ZN will remained here, you guys have to live with it. What a pity...if your life stuck with ZN, please get a life.


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Read my post, already cover this.
On the bolded part, news flash, that assumption only shared by the nons.

For all we know for most malays these allegations are unfounded and not proven.

“liberal malays” group are VERY SMALL, You can see almost all malays dont support siti kassim, LGBT groups, and other things like opening quotas.

In fact most Malays nowadays support more progressive Islamic movement that focuses on open debates about religions, comparative religion, corruption free government, Islamic Financing, Clean governance and of course economic support for bumis.

The reason why BN lose is that Najib are too corrupt, he took our epf for his stupid project and took down felda (one of the main body that support bumi economic agenda).

These malays are not far right who only concern race and religion, the importance of economic development plays a major role too, this is why the swing voters do not vote for najib that causes problems like felda downfall, china debt trap, rosmah luxury trips, jho low exploitations etc.

The nons only focuses on “extreme version” of things which make them fail to see why its hard to have malay support their “abolish bumi rights and privilages” ideals.

You think theres only “Religious and racist malay”  on one end and “liberal and progressive malay” on the other end.

But the middle group “Religious and progressive malay” are the main players within the swing voters group that you nons dont realize.

These group are the ones who still respect religion and religious figures at heart but also focus on importance of good governance, corruption free, and economic growth of the nation.

So theres no “malays that support PH are liberals” at all..

Most of them are religious and progressive, and mostly are ex BN and PAS voters.

So get the picture, dont simply think that Bumis suddenly support abolish bumi privilage at all. Do not create your own version of “Liberal Malay” based from your limited understanding of what Malays stands for.
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ooo...thats where you're wrong boy. The liberals may make up a small percentage but they carry a lot of weight cos they are the middle and upper middle class to high class malays with lots of money due to Thanos and Pak Lah, including najib giving them contracts to keep this segment up against the richer chinese and indians. Royalty included.

Do you think they want their freedom curtailed by religious nuts who only have sex with kids on their mind? Iran just legalised a father's marriage with their own step child...think they do not want to implement rules like these when they are in power, including public whipping for muslims for drinking alchohol (which a lot of them do), no visiting of 4-D shops by muslims..etc.?


They will never let a nut job religious politician take over the country, Anwar included with his ABIM bullshit, he's more liberal now compared to his younger days, hence the butt-seks all over the country by his followers.





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its because of sabah took over many seats from BN, if sabah still safe deposit ph only will win slightly or lose

if win slightly still can cari katak to make it win due to BN are rich
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QUOTE(sdin3269 @ Aug 14 2019, 02:08 PM)
"SEPANG, Aug 13 — Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad alleged today that Dr Zakir Naik runs the risk of being killed if the controversial televangelist is deported back home to India to face charges of money laundering and inspiring terrorism."

Please read between the line, Tun is smart, even dumbass can "interpret his wording"

So like it or not ZN will remained here, you guys have to live with it. What a pity...if your life stuck with ZN, please get a life.
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SEPANG, Aug 13 — Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad alleged today that Dr Zakir Naik runs the risk of being killed if the controversial televangelist is deported back home to India to face charges of money laundering and inspiring terrorism.


However, the prime minister said he is open to the idea of sending the fugitive Indian national to other countries, following renewed backlash against the preacher for his remarks against local ethnic Indians.

“The problem that we face is that we cannot send him back. Because he runs the risk of being killed.


“So he is here today, but if any country wants to have him, they are welcome to do so,” Dr Mahathir said following the 21st anniversary of the KLIA airport.


Last month, Dr Mahathir had said that Malaysia is not keen for Dr Zakir to be here, but is hard-pressed to deport him elsewhere as “many countries” will not accept the controversial Islamic preacher either.
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Aug 14 2019, 11:22 AM)
TS, you forgot the swing votes are from malays who do not support greedy politicians and fanatics like zakir naik or Pas. You think liberal malays want to wear kopiah and tudung and being told what to do by clerics? A third force might emerge with Multiracial citizens holding the key. Thanos family are liberals if TS forgot. Think he wants them to suffer after he is gone?
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Rules only apply to the sheep but not the shepherd. This is how religion works, the easiest way to control the crowd.
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he may send lanunku to jail but his perotiga will fail like baoteng
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Aug 14 2019, 02:11 PM)
ooo...thats where you're wrong boy. The liberals may make up a small percentage but they carry a lot of weight cos they are the middle and upper middle class to high class malays with lots of money due to Thanos and Pak Lah, including najib giving them contracts to keep this segment up against the richer chinese and indians. Royalty included.

Do you think they want their freedom curtailed by religious nuts who only have sex with kids on their mind? Iran just legalised a father's marriage with their own step child...think they do not want to implement rules like these when they are in power, including public whipping for muslims for drinking alchohol (which a lot of them do), no visiting of 4-D shops by muslims..etc.?
They will never let a nut job religious politician take over the country, Anwar included with his ABIM bullshit, he's more liberal now compared to his younger days, hence the butt-seks all over the country by his followers.
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This is why I say you guys got no idea about swing voters ideals and beliefs.

You simply categorize them as "Liberal Malays" that love to drink alcohol, gamble, LGBT.

No capacity to even see anything else either "Religious and racist malay" or "Liberal and LGBT supporter malay"

Nothing in the middle, but in truth most Malays are religious at heart, but still open enough to accept other religion in this country, and they are not thinking Race and Religion 24-7, the wellfare of bumi economics plays a huge role, they hated najib for ruining felda (bumi economic body), stealing epf, and rosmah luxury spending.

They are Religious and progressive malays, yes, much like current Muslims these days progressive muslims are open to debate, discuss and focuses on economic development of society, these are the Swing voters demographics, they are centrists in nature, far from being Liberals and pak lebais..

And NO, In malaysia centrist and pak lebai(PAS) supporters are much bigger than small potato libtard malays, libtard malays are like a needle in bunch of haystacks jumbled together.

And NO, you poor understanding about "religious person love kid brides" are extremely prejudice views about Muslims. Most muslims dont have child brides at all, ESPECIALLY IN MALAYSIA.

so please, refrain from shoving your imaginary views of what "religious muslim" are, and start learning about Islam before spouting nonsensical bs that would make Swing voters stray away from voting parties who have no ideas about their beliefs, core values, and interest at all.
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QUOTE(brapa? @ Aug 14 2019, 01:22 PM)
If its possible, nep would hv been a success
The malays deserve more than just lip service
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Why do you say NEP is not success? But if the new NEP is meant to suppress more... It may work..
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QUOTE(MyJimmy @ Aug 14 2019, 03:15 PM)
Why do you say NEP is not success? But if the new NEP is meant to suppress more... It may work..
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Nep started about same time sinkapor left

Now 1 : 3

It has disadvantaged malaysian natives (meaning asli & malays) vs sinkaporean malays
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QUOTE(brapa? @ Aug 14 2019, 03:23 PM)
Nep started about same time sinkapor left

Now 1 : 3

It has disadvantaged malaysian natives (meaning asli & malays) vs sinkaporean malays
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So you compare Malaysia and a pulau..
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So you compare Malaysia and a pulau..
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Pulau yg takde gas / minyak
harimau pun mati kelaparan
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Pulau yg takde gas / minyak 
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Dude.. Singapore is already establish even before Malaysia laa...and how many population at that time and now.. Subjective comparison..
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QUOTE(Roblox Malaya @ Aug 14 2019, 01:04 PM)
PPBM would not have won a single seat in GE14 without DAP.

That is confirmed.

You think PPBM can win with only 25% Malay support and 0% non-Malay support?
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errr Langkawi for one, no ?

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QUOTE(MyJimmy @ Aug 14 2019, 04:03 PM)
Dude.. Singapore is already establish even before Malaysia laa...and how many population at that time and now.. Subjective comparison..
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Bro, when My & Sg split, its 1 : 1
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Bro, when My & Sg split, its 1 : 1
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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Aug 14 2019, 11:45 AM)
I agree. Got a few meleis fren, they're educated, got masters, PHD, from UK uni.

But nowadays, see their fb, is like those low life rempit's fb, malu apa bosskuurr, share bosskuurrr status, agree with them, racing about cainis biadap anti islam, anti jawi, baseball bat killer. With yindian pula racing about puak Modi, anti Islam, potek ZN, justice4adib etc.

Bukan semua benda boleh guna logik.
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why should an educated malay suddenly vote for stronger chinese representation against everyting malay and islam?
GE14 was special due to strong dislike for najib and mahathir as pm was an acceptable alternative
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QUOTE(Roblox Malaya @ Aug 14 2019, 01:04 PM)
PPBM would not have won a single seat in GE14 without DAP.

That is confirmed.

You think PPBM can win with only 25% Malay support and 0% non-Malay support?
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Didn't PPBM use PKR logo and not DAP logo? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kaffra @ Aug 14 2019, 04:48 PM)
why should an educated malay suddenly vote for stronger chinese representation against everyting malay and islam?
GE14 was special due to strong dislike for najib and mahathir as pm was an acceptable alternative
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Except that everything malay and islam is neither of those. A bunch of penyamuns and penunggang agama liars. All that education, yet cannot think of that.

But I suppose they hate the nons even more, so throw all logic out the window. Malu apa bosskuuuurr
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no worries, more and more chinese business closing down already

cukur lah

eventually we can start progressing backwards together
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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Aug 14 2019, 04:57 PM)
Except that everything malay and islam is neither of those. A bunch of penyamuns and penunggang agama liars. All that education, yet cannot think of that.

But I suppose they hate the nons even more, so throw all logic out the window. Malu apa bosskuuuurr
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its pretty logical thinking, they got rid of najib but must also be vary of minorities ganging up and taking opportunity with a divided malay base and pushng their own agenda. Mahathir as pm was a great move and reassures the malay community.






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QUOTE(kaffra @ Aug 14 2019, 05:18 PM)
its pretty logical thinking, they got rid of najib but must also be vary of minorities ganging up and taking opportunity with a divided malay base and pushng their own agenda. Mahathir as pm was a great move and reassures the malay community.
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And then vote back in the incompetent buffoons that will chase away even more of our nons, ruin our economy even more, and become paria state. Genious.
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https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/seco...y-with-malaysia
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Nope.. I mean.. I don't compare 2 nation like that. You can proceed if you want to.
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Nope.. I mean.. I don't compare 2  nation like that.  You can proceed if you want to.
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Do propose your method if its more objective than this
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Mmg kaum mudah lupa like what thanos said

Let's look back the history before millennium

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