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TSfatboythin
post Jul 3 2007, 01:58 AM, updated 19y ago

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Read somewhere that the Slash sig Wah pedal has an on/off button for both wah and distortion. I was just wondering, could this pedal be used as an OD pedal as well, to add gain or boost solos and such? If it can, then it might save me from getting an OD pedal as well. rclxms.gif

PS: Amp i'm going to use it on, Randall RG50TC. When i get it of course, haha.
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post Jul 3 2007, 07:19 AM

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Yes, it does act as an OD pedal. BUT, this wah is seriously over priced, not worth it IMO.

Although Slash gets his OD mostly from his JCM800, you could try the following:
Get the MI Audio Crunch Box and a Crybaby (preferably the 535Q for the sake of versatility, or the GCB95F for the sake of less moolah).

Raja Utara is using the MIA CB, it's certainly a Marshall in a box, can wait for him to chime in on that.
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post Jul 3 2007, 07:48 AM

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The 535Q costs as much as a Slash Wah already....... Last time I checked.......
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post Jul 3 2007, 12:21 PM

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Wow, didn't know the 535Q would cost that much. So, is the Slash Wah a good deal then? Since its like an OD and Wah pedal in 1 versus the 535Q which has only wah but costs around the same. hmm.gif
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post Jul 3 2007, 12:26 PM

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Sorry. Double checked Musician's Friend....

The Slash costs an Extra 50USD there... so yes..... it IS more expensive....

Since you're on a budget, why not just get a regular CryBaby (or the Classic crybaby if you want the Fasel) and a Boss SD-1 OD (Or Digitech's Bad Monkey)....... still cheaper..
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post Jul 3 2007, 01:40 PM

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The regular Crybaby didn't get really good reviews here:

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showt...ht=ultimate+wah

Don't want to get something cheaper but with bad quality.
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post Jul 3 2007, 02:26 PM

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never tried the slash wah
but afaik, slash's wah tone comes from a rack unit
how his signature wah pedal sounds still isn't known we all need to test it for ourselves

p/s slash uses a silver jubilee mainly
jcm800 is a backup amp =p
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post Jul 3 2007, 02:58 PM

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Yea, Slash has a rack mounted wah. I'm not really interested in it just because it's Slash', but because it can be used as a gain boost for solos and such. Haven't seen many wah pedals like that. Its like a 2 in 1 deal. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 3 2007, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Rossie @ Jul 3 2007, 07:19 AM)
Yes, it does act as an OD pedal. BUT, this wah is seriously over priced, not worth it IMO.

Although Slash gets his OD mostly from his JCM800, you could try the following:
Get the MI Audio Crunch Box and a Crybaby (preferably the 535Q for the sake of versatility, or the GCB95F for the sake of less moolah).

Raja Utara is using the MIA CB, it's certainly a Marshall in a box, can wait for him to chime in on that.
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blush.gif just a noobie...afraid can't comment much on the MI Crunchbox...just that last night at around 10.30pm my neighbour came knocking on my door...when i opened it, she was holding a pen, paper and a camera....then she said.."eh, i thought slash was staying here...nevermind..." then she left... tongue.gif jk jk jk just my dream maybe...

anyways...yeah, what Rossie said bout' the crunchbox is absolutely correct. it gets u very2 close to slash's tone. don't have the wah2 though. can't comment on that. u can try out at my place. but bring ur own axe and amp. mine is just an SX and a microcube tongue.gif
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post Jul 3 2007, 03:42 PM

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Do you have any soundclips of the Crunchbox in action man? wink.gif
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post Jul 3 2007, 04:08 PM

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soundclips... shocking.gif

hehe...don't think anyone wants to hear it....the best way is for you to try it on your own...lemme know if you wanna drop by....i'm in ampang
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post Jul 3 2007, 04:14 PM

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Ampang huh? Are you going for the Herman Li clinic at Wisama MCA Ampang? Can catch up with you there. icon_idea.gif
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post Jul 3 2007, 04:21 PM

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nope...i'll be flying out of kl everyweekend.

if u wanna catch up just pm me...and u better continue talking 'bout the wah2 before our moderater aka "zakk wylde hardest coreest fannest" come in with his hipnotic LP and close this thread... tongue.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 3 2007, 04:27 PM

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Well, I just helped a friend to get a 535Q around RM400. The CB is around RM450, adds up to around RM850 for two great pedals, and gives you much more versatility. RM600 for the Slash wah alone, and try to even get it at RM600. Go figure.
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post Jul 3 2007, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(Raja Utara @ Jul 3 2007, 04:21 PM)
nope...i'll be flying out of kl everyweekend.

if u wanna catch up just pm me...and u better continue talking 'bout the wah2 before our moderater aka "zakk wylde hardest coreest fannest" come in with his hipnotic LP and close this thread... tongue.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Haha, no probs man.

QUOTE(Rossie @ Jul 3 2007, 04:27 PM)
Well, I just helped a friend to get a 535Q around RM400. The CB is around RM450, adds up to around RM850 for two great pedals, and gives you much more versatility. RM600 for the Slash wah alone, and try to even get it at RM600. Go figure.
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I guess i'll go check these two out then, they seem really good anyway. Does Bentley stock them right now? Or any other store? icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 3 2007, 04:59 PM

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Don't think you can get the CB in KL, try:
http://www.tonefactor.com/
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post Jul 3 2007, 05:22 PM

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Ok, i'll check it out. Thanks again Rossie. cheers.gif
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post Jul 3 2007, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(sean392 @ Jul 3 2007, 02:26 PM)
never tried the slash wah
but afaik, slash's wah tone comes from a rack unit
how his signature wah pedal sounds still isn't known we all need to test it for ourselves

p/s slash uses a silver jubilee mainly
jcm800 is a backup amp =p
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Holy crap...JCM 800 as backup?!
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post Jul 3 2007, 09:09 PM

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Eh... I always thought slash was famous for his JCM800 tone?
He even had a signature JCM800!!!!!!!

Wow.. come to think of it..... I think the JCM800 has the MOST signature models ever....

Slash, Zakk and Kerry King......

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Slash

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Zakk

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Kerry King

WHOOPS! You're right!

The JCM Slash Signature model is an authentic reissue of the Marshall amp Slash has sworn-by since day one, the Jubilee 2555 100 Watt head."

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post Feb 4 2008, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(Rossie @ Jul 3 2007, 07:19 AM)
Yes, it does act as an OD pedal. BUT, this wah is seriously over priced, not worth it IMO.

Although Slash gets his OD mostly from his JCM800, you could try the following:
Get the MI Audio Crunch Box and a Crybaby (preferably the 535Q for the sake of versatility, or the GCB95F for the sake of less moolah).

Raja Utara is using the MIA CB, it's certainly a Marshall in a box, can wait for him to chime in on that.
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reviving old thread tongue.gif

wat's the meaning of less moolah? blink.gif
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post Feb 4 2008, 06:23 AM

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moolah = money

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post Feb 6 2008, 12:22 AM

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i've gt 1 unit at my place
feel free to come over n try it
see if its over-rated


after chinese new year haha
i tink a gain boost in the wah makes a difference
but tats just me haha

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post Feb 6 2008, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(crazychris @ Feb 6 2008, 12:22 AM)
i've gt 1 unit at my place
feel free to come over n try it
see if its over-rated
after chinese new year haha
i tink a gain boost in the wah makes a difference
but tats just me haha
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holy shi-

how much is it going for

wokeh time to find ur studio @_@
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post Feb 6 2008, 02:10 AM

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Somebody said SD-1? laugh.gif i just got my SD-1 last weekend


sorry out of topic laugh.gif
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post Feb 6 2008, 03:09 AM

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QUOTE(kurikuraX @ Feb 6 2008, 02:10 AM)
Somebody said SD-1? laugh.gif i just got my SD-1 last weekend
sorry out of topic laugh.gif
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i can see you like it very much laugh.gif

btw chris where in the world is your studio?
can't make much sense outta the map, not familiar with that area.
my band's thinking of relocating our base camp laugh.gif
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post Feb 6 2008, 09:42 AM

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You can only use the distortion when the wah's on...
The distortion of the wah actually acts as a booster when you use your wah... The wah sounds sweet, but it's still achievable through other cheaper versions of the Crybaby w/ Fasel...

If you don't care for the distortion of the wah, for the price of a Slash wah you can get a boutique wah (ie. RMC) or the much more versatile 535Q... I really don't see the need for the distortion when you can only use it when the wah is on; but if you can find a use for it, then good for you smile.gif

Here are sound clips of a RMC 2 wah:
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=641337
Scroll down a little for the two clips...
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post Feb 6 2008, 11:28 AM

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@rossie
do you have Satch's settings on the 535q? can't seem to get a ultra sweet tone after like a few months of tweaking ><

I'm a big fan of Slash's wah sound, so its very tempting @_@

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post Feb 6 2008, 12:01 PM

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Sorry, don't really listen to Satch much... Can't really give any comments on his wah sound...

Seriously, Slash tone is more to what he plays rather than the gear he uses... Anyway, Slash started out by using a normal Crybaby, if that works for you, then great! If you're not satisfied, try to add a red fasel and a true bypass mod, it makes alot of difference... The fasel makes the wah more vocal-like, and the true bypass takes out the tone suck when your wah is off and have gazillion pedals... The tone suck can be solved by placing a good buffered pedal before the wah (ie. TCE SCF); then again, it would be cheaper to just mod it to true bypass... If you're just using 2 or 3 pedals, the tone suck wouldn't be so pronounced... So you don't really need to have your wah TBP-ed...
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post Feb 6 2008, 01:10 PM

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yup usuali all the signature series guys started wit the basic wah
and they tweak some parts and added in sumtin and gt their signature tone
tats how signature pedals work
but of cz u can get it close to the real thing wit signature series

a fren use to tel me
if u play wit effects alot and dun have tat much $$
den bear wit the toneloss


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QUOTE(Rossie @ Feb 6 2008, 09:42 AM)
You can only use the distortion when the wah's on...
The distortion of the wah actually acts as a booster when you use your wah... The wah sounds sweet, but it's still achievable through other cheaper versions of the Crybaby w/ Fasel...

If you don't care for the distortion of the wah, for the price of a Slash wah you can get a boutique wah (ie. RMC) or the much more versatile 535Q... I really don't see the need for the distortion when you can only use it when the wah is on; but if you can find a use for it, then good for you smile.gif

Here are sound clips of a RMC 2 wah:
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=641337
Scroll down a little for the two clips...
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i'm buying an original crybaby wah, n going to mod it tongue.gif
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post Feb 7 2008, 08:21 AM

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Chris: Not entirely true... If you can indeed afford to play with that many pedals, I don't see why you can't afford to fix the tone-loss. It's the matter of choosing the right kinda of pedals for your needs. Some players are a believer of true bypass, while some are not. For instance, if you do have say 10 pedals in your chain, and all of them are true bypass, you will still lose your signal at the end of the chain as the 10 pedals in your chain, although all TBP-ed, adds to the length of your signal and by the time it reaches your amp, it already loses some top end. Buffered pedals are good because they can strengthen your signal, the downside is they will add some color to your tone, and it depends on the player whether they'll like the extra coloration of not. You can strategically place one or two buffered pedals in your chain to solve this. And of course there's the dedicated buffer pedals like the Axess BS-2, you can add one in the beginning of your chain, at the end of your chain, or add one at the beginning and end of your chain; depending on your needs. This is one really cool pedal, highly recommended if anyone's getting a buffer pedal.

Enter: Very cool... Your wah sound totally depends on your on playing and the control of the wah. Heard tons of people that uses their unmodded original Crybaby and make it sound so darn good; likewise, heard a number of people with their boutique wahs like RMC, Buddah etc. but sounded like crap.

OT: When I saw DT last month, JP used two wahs; one placed in the middle of the stage while the other is on his pedalboard. Other then the rock star factor by soloing with the wah in the middle of the stage, that particular wah has a more modern, greater sweep; while the one on his pedalboard has a more vintage-y sound with less sweep. Both of them sounded incredible, then again he's JP thumbup.gif

 

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