Yeah that sounds reasonable, any specific data or podcasts to back this up with? I guess the most cited long-term carnviore / keto examples are the innuits and the maasai (and humans before farming).

Before humans could farm, they were likely to eat plants; fruits, roots, beans, maybe soft vegetations, hunt small animals, fish if there were near river or lake. Were there any scientists to document their health? So where did those podcasters get their data? I tell you they get their data from who ever was paying them LOL and I am just speculating.

So let's see what kind of garbage is there on the internet....

The Inuit people live in the far northern areas of Alaska, Canada, Siberia, and Greenland, but I don't know how cold is it there because search engines were repeating about forest fire there, damn this global warming. They have limited food choices (sure in the middle of Siberia) not like Lim Kit Siang could drop by a mamak stall for cendol. The point is they live in cold climate, walk far to gather food (remember we specified before farming era) and maybe catch a rabbit or dodoo bird. (You try catching a wild animal for food, see how easy that is) LOL Mean while most forumers here live on the equatorial part of the planet in tropical climate. Apple and Chihuahas are not comparable.

The Maasai tribe are mainly in Kenya also some living in Tanzania around the Ngorongoro (isn't that near Wakanda?). Now these locations have similar climate, bingo!

The Maasai are a seminomadic, which means the fly around a lot on Malaysia Airlines until MH17 was shot down /sarcasm
Traditional Maasai lifestyle centres around their cattle which constitute their primary source of food - source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maasai_people
(Search engine results were all over the place and what does Jessica Bruso from Massachusetts know about Maasai)

In fact experts in 1964, "The accurate measurement of dietary intake of these people proved extraordinarily difficult. We were able to make only limited measurements. This difficulty is because of the erratic intake of food, there being no fixed meal patterns in the families, because there are no uniform units of measurement or utensil and because of the disruption of usual behavior in the presence of an observer.” - source: Mann GV, Shaffer RD, Anderson RS, Sandstead HH. Cardiovascular Disease in the Masai. Journal of atherosclerosis research 1964;4:289-312.

Oh wait, if experts could not measure their diet, who made up that keto crap?

Maybe because there is no research funding and university or hospitals in Kenya during paleo times? LOL Okay, lets work with what's available...

By 1972, "The hearts and aortae of 50 Masai men were collected at autopsy. These pastoral people are exceptionally active and fit and they consume diets of milk and meat. The intake of animal fat exceeds that of American men. Measurements of the aorta showed extensive atherosclerosis with lipid infiltration and fibrous changes but very few complicated lesions. The coronary arteries showed intimal thickening by atherosclerosis which equaled that of old U.S. men. The Masai vessels enlarge with age to more than compensate for this disease. It is speculated that the Masai are protected from their atherosclerosis by physical fitness which causes their coronary vessels to be capacious." - source: Mann, G. V. (Vanderbilt Univ. School of Medicine, Nashville, Tenn. 37203), A. Spoerry, M. Gray, and D. Jarashow. Atherosclerosis in the Masai. Am J Epidemiol 95: 26–37, 1972.

Remember Maasai were nomadic and in the era before farming and 99speedmart.

Maasai were hunters and herd cattle, what do most Singaporeans do for a living?

People of Kenya in the 1950s lived up to about 40 years - https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/KEN/k...life-expectancy
Life expectancy in Tanzania is 42 for men and 44 for women - http://www.bbc.co.uk/northamptonshire/feat...maasai_03.shtml
(oh hey see what your podcasters forgot to tell you LOL)

In the age before farming, I have yet to be born. So whatever your podcasters claim, ask them why don't you claim to be god? There are no doctors to determine their cause of death, no autopsy, no statistics, no university scientist research. They can even claim to have created En Sabah Nur (meaning podcaster created god). As for the Inuit / Eskimo, got a heart attack in the middle of a frozen lake, who is going to know? Maybe they got hunted down by polar bears or wolves. Or the Maasai fellow got eaten by lions and vultures so no evidence left. But what the hell, who wants to live forever, eat all you want and die young (44 years old? good for you)

Oh we are in a diabetes forum, where are the Inuits and Maasai going to get diagnosed with diabetes? So no data, right? So go ahead, feast all you like!

As Vuwei said, "Yeah that sounds reasonable" LOL

This post has been edited by Pikichu: Sep 13 2019, 11:41 AM