Sorry, I am a newbie and I don't know how much is the normal capacity for the gaming laptop. I notice that the Illegear Prodigy comes with 47Wh battery while the Dell G5 2019 comes with 60 WHr battery. If you ask me, I will just say 'bigger capacity is a bonus' (sorry again for this kind of newbie answer.

Does anyone know how is the quality of Acer nowadays? A few years ago, my Malaysian friends told me to avoid Acer because they have bad experiences with Acer computers in terms of quality. Even one of my Indonesian friends says that the impression of Acer in Indonesia in term of quality is the same. If the Predator Helios 300 2019 is also affected by this quality problem, I would like to avoid buying it even if the legit version with 1660Ti is available in the Malaysian market.

The Illegear salesman that I contacted says that the space for the hard disk will be sacrificed if the customer chooses to upgrade the battery from 47Wh to 63Wh (this is also mentioned in your review article for Illegear Prodigy). Dell G5 still have the space for hard disk even though it comes with the 60 WHr battery by default, but it only has 2 NVME M.2 SSD slots (while the Illegear Prodigy has 2 NVME M.2 SSD slots). This is my new listed requirement - more NVME M.2 SSD slots is a bonus.


Is Dell G7 the same?


All right, understood.

This post has been edited by foxfaisal: Aug 1 2019, 03:33 PM

Sorry, it should be as follow:


Is Dell G7 the same? (in term of thermal issue).

How about Illegear Prodigy? Is the thermal solution better than the Dell G5? Please let me know if you know other brands and model with i7-9750H and GTX1660Ti that has better thermal performance than Dell G5 and Illegear Prodigy.


Btw, I post the same thing on PC gaming community on FB around 3-4 weeks ago. Suddenly one person PMed me offering to sell his Helios 300 2018 as shown in the photo below at RM3.8k. Is it worth it for me to buy it at this kind of price?



This post has been edited by foxfaisal: Aug 2 2019, 05:12 PM

I just notice that HP Malaysia also has updated their website with Omen series that comes with i7-9750H CPU and GTX1660Ti GPU in the following link.
https://store.hp.com/my-en/default/omen-by-...tx-7ef21pa.html
However, I think the price of RM6,399.00 might be too much for a laptop that comes with GTX1660Ti (unless if they can justify why they sell it at that kind of price). I think it might be better for me to get Helios 300 at RM 6199 with RTX2060 if HP sells their Omen with GTX1660Ti at RM6,399.00.

This post has been edited by foxfaisal: Aug 2 2019, 06:15 PM

All right. I need some time to go through your list. I will PM you if there is anything that I don't understand with your list.


Understood. I won't buy it. Thank you.


Besides HP, MSI also has updated their website with the model that comes with i7-9750H CPU and GTX1660Ti GPU. So far only the GL Series that comes with that CPU and GPU, as shown in the link below:
https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GL65-9SX-GTX/Overview

The animation of the cooling system for the new GL series in the link above shows that the fan only blows air in 3 direction, not 4 directions like the GE series and the previous GL series.

So far I still have no idea of how much the price of that new MSI GL65, but I think it might be around the same price at the HP with the same spec (or more expensive)

This post has been edited by foxfaisal: Aug 2 2019, 08:01 PM

Even the cooling system animation for the new GE series also blows the air in only 3 directions, not 4 directions like the previous versions (as shown in the link below).
https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GE65-RAIDER-9SX

This post has been edited by foxfaisal: Aug 2 2019, 08:41 PM

The new MSI GP series is also available in i7-9750H CPU and GTX1660Ti GPU configuration, as shown in the link below (and the cooling system also blows in 3 directions like the new GE series and GL series):
https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GP65-Leopard-9SX-GTX/Overview

Zelmel, please don't forget to tag me if you create a new thread. I would like to know what is being discussed on your thread because I think our requirement is almost the same. If you don't know how to tag me, you can just post the link of your new thread in here OR just PM me the link of your new thread :-)

Have a nice day.

I am also happy because you join this thread. The more people joining this thread, the merrier I feel. But I think this kind of practice is common in most of the forums that I've joined (both local and international). Whenever I ask a related question on an existing thread (especially the old threads), the senior members of the forum told me to open a new thread even though the content of the existing thread is almost similar with whatever that I'm going to ask. I usually just follow their instructions and open a new thread because I am just a junior in the forums and I should respect and listen to the seniors. Even if I have anything to argue, I will do it politely and professionally.

I went to 3 different shops at the low yat plaza last night to ask the Malaysian pricing for the new GL series and GP series with i7-9750H CPU and GTX1660Ti GPU. Unfortunately, the models are still too new and the salesmen had no idea about the existence of the models. I think I might have to wait for another few weeks or months to know the Malaysian pricing for those models.

Same with me. I didn't know that I was not supposed to continue talking about my problem in an existing thread even though the content of the existing thread is similar to mine. The seniors in the forum told me to create another thread for my own problem because they said I was hijacking other people's thread. Therefore, I behaved, said sorry to the seniors, and then created my own thread. :-)

Which Lenovo model? Dave Lee just released a video saying that the cooling system for the Y540 is better that the cooling system for the Y545 and the Y740. I have put the link for the video below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENJwA9MVHz8

I see. All this time I didn't pay too much attention to Lenovo (and Acer) because some of my friends told me that they had bad experiences with Lenovo (and Acer) (maybe only some models, not all) in terms of quality. If the quality of Lenovo is actually okay (or at least improving), I can consider Lenovo (and Acer) from now onwards.


May I know how much is the price for that model? My internet connection is currently slow and I can't browse Lenovo Malaysia's website since last night.

I am not really urgent to buy a new laptop at this moment and I can even postpone my purchase for a few months. Just in case if you buy your laptop earlier than me, don't forget to inform me your experience owning that laptop :-)

This post has been edited by foxfaisal: Aug 4 2019, 03:12 PM

Thank you very much for this information. I think it should be cheap for the laptop that comes with i7-9750H, RTX2060, and 144Hz screen. But I'm not sure whether the cooling system for this laptop is good or not and need some time to study it. Btw, may I know who/which shop sells this laptop and this promo price is until when?

Understood. Thank you very much for this information.

I just go through your list in the link above and notice that the '4869 MSI GP73 8RE-665 1060' belongs to the 'RM4500-RM4999' category. Are you sure? Is there any typo in the list? Or did you manage to get the laptop at a special price while making the review? The online store in the link below listed the same item as RM5,799.00 (old price) and (RM5,699.00) new price.
https://mystore.msi.com/product/gp73-8re-66...1060-6gb-gddr5/

Meanwhile, the '5140 MSI GP63 8RE-820 1060' belongs to the 'RM5000-RM5499' category. I think there should be no mistake because the online store in the link below also listed this item as RM5,499.00.
https://mystore.msi.com/product/gp63-8re-29...1060-6gb-gddr5/

How about this one? I found a seller that would like to sell his used MSI GP63 8RD 409MY (as shown in the link below) for RM3.7k. Is the laptop model ok? And is it worth it to buy this laptop with this kind of spec? The brand new price for this model listed in the link below is RM4699. Thank you.
https://mystore.msi.com/product/gp63-8rd-40...50ti-4gb-gddr5/

This post has been edited by foxfaisal: Aug 7 2019, 01:31 PM

All right, understood.

All right. But is it worth it to but the used item at RM3.7k right now?

All right, understood.

How about the following model (MSI GP63 8RE) with i7-8750H with GTX1060? Seller would like to sell at RM3.5k. Thank you.
https://mystore.msi.com/product/gp63-8re-29...1060-6gb-gddr5/

I see. I think I might need some time to think. Just in case if I miss this, I will wait for another sale in the future.

I see. I will go through your list again. Thank you.

This one:
https://mystore.msi.com/product/gp63-8re-29...1060-6gb-gddr5/

I've actually written the link in my comment above, but feel free to let me know if you are actually requesting a different link :-)

This post has been edited by foxfaisal: Aug 8 2019, 12:26 AM

Hello everyone. How are you? Sorry for not replying in this thread fo a very long time. I was busy around 1-2 weeks ago because I had to do some experiment and publish the result in two different conferences. I even did the experiment and type conference papers from my university campus during the Raya Haji holiday last Sunday and Monday. I only open an read this thread today.


Do you still remember the questions that I asked above? A few days ago I decided to purchase one of the two laptops above from the used seller on Carousell, Mudah, and FB Marketplace. I decided to buy used laptop with 8th generation i7 CPU and GTX 10 series GPU because at that time I was thinking of saving some money for other important purposes. Unfortunately, the sellers for all of the models that I am interested in were suspicious (probably scammers). I am thankful to God for making me realize that those sellers are suspicious before I manage to buy their laptops. I can tell you in detail what happened while I was dealing with them, but I will do it later because I am still tired after doing the experiment and typing two conference papers continuously. Please let me know if I should tell it here or open a new thread.

After dealing with the suspicious used laptop sellers on Carousell, Mudah, and FB Marketplace, I think I am done with the used laptops. I will just buy the brand new laptop to have a peaceful mind and avoid headache due to potential scammers. I will buy the laptop with the 9th gen i7 CPU + GTX1660Ti GPU(or even the RTX2060 if it is affordable, like the Lenovo that Zelmel mentioned before). Even if I still want to go for the 8th gen i7 CPU = GTX10 series GPU, I will buy the brand new one from any legit shops this time.

Btw, both Lenovo and Illegear are having sales again on their websites.

Same with me, I still haven't decided anything :-p . I think it is not urgent with the new laptop, so I will just wait until the MSI GP series or GL series (or both) arrive in Malaysia with i7-9750H + GTX1660Ti. Even if I still want to buy MSI with i7-8750H with + GTX1050Ti, the price should drop some more by the time the newer models arrive in Malaysia.


Is your statement regarding the RTX above still applicable if the Lenovo laptops (Y540 series and Y7000 SE series) with RTX2060 are sold at the price below RM6k right now?

Btw, may I know if there is any performance difference between the Y540 series and Y7000 SE series? In terms of aesthetic, I only notice that the Y7000 SE series is more beautiful because it comes with the red-lit keyboard and I think the keyboard for the Y540 is plain. I also just notice that both the Y540 series and Y7000 SE series also have the customisable version like Illegear, Tech Armory, and Level 51. However, I think the screen of the customisable version of Y540 (15") can go until 60Hz while the customisable version of Y7000 SE (15") can go until 144Hz.


First case:
Before the Raya Haji holiday, I found a seller on Mudah advertised his MSI GP63 8RD (i7-8750H + GTX1050Ti) for RM3.7k. I texted him on WhatsApp and he replied to my messages. Then I found the same person advertised another MSI GP63 8RE (i7-8750H + GTX1060) on Carousell for RM3.5k. Then I texted him again asking why did he quote a more powerful laptop on Carousell at a cheaper price than the laptop on Mudah. He didn't reply to my message and immediately delete his advertisement on Carousell (but the advertisement on Mudah is still not yet deleted).

Second case:
Before the Raya Haji holiday, I found a seller advertised his MSI GP63 8RD (i7-8750H + GTX1050Ti) for RM3.7k. The seller claimed that he is a final-year bachelor degree student in UiTM Shah Alam. He even sent the purchase receipt of the advertised laptop (purchased on the 21st of July 2019) as a proof that the laptop was still new and had around 1 year and 10 months plus warranty left. After judging that the person in the first case above might be a scammer, I decided to buy from this UiTM student after the Raya Haji holiday. I was supposed to COD the laptop from him in UiTM Shah Alam campus around 4 days ago. Just before departing to UiTM, I noticed that the name of the original owner in the photo of the receipt was a Chinese name but the seller was a Malay guy. I texted the seller and asked was why the owner's name in the photo of the receipt is different? The seller still claimed that his laptop was a brand new laptop, but gave a weird excuse that my brain cannot digest.

I suspect that the seller might have used the photo of someone else's receipt to convince the potential buyers that the warranty period of his laptop is still long (or he might have been trying to sell a stolen laptop or an AP set laptop). There was also written the serial number of the laptop in the photo of the receipt with the Chinese name. I told the seller to take the photo of the serial number printed at the chassis of his laptop because I want to see whether the serial number on the chassis match the serial number on the receipt or not. He only gave the photo to me after 2 days. The serial number in the photo of the laptop chassis that he gave to me matches the serial number in the photo of the receipt with the Chinese name, but I'm not sure whether the photo was really shot by him or grabbed from other online sellers.

The phone number of the original Chinese owner is also printed in the photo of the receipt, so I telephoned the owner to ask what is going on. The phone was answered by a Chinese aunty. That aunty claimed that she accidentally bought a gaming laptop for normal working purpose and told her husband to advertise the laptop for sale online. I suspect that the photo of the receipt might be taken from that advertisement. I reported what I have encountered earlier, and the aunty said thank you to me.

The aunty offered to sell her laptop to me for the same price (or cheaper) if I am interested. But now another problem begins. The aunty demands me to pay some amount of deposit if I really want to proceed to purchase her laptop because she claimed that previously a potential buyer didn't turn up at the COD location. I asked her if the deposit worth RM50 is enough, but she requested RM100. She claimed that she stays in Kuala Selangor buy visits her mother around once a week in Setapak and she still requested me to pay the deposit worth RM100 even though I request her to COD in Setapak. Even if I break my promise and didn't turn up in Setapak, I don't think the value of petrol, toll fee, shopping complex parking fee etc will be more than RM50. I think that aunty might also be suspicious.

In addition, it is difficult to negotiate with that Aunty. I only understand around 60% of what the aunty said because she speaks English and Malay with a strong Chinese accent (and I am a Malay). The aunty also doesn't understand some of the things that I spoke to her in English or Malay because I think her English and Malay is not that good. I have asked my Chinese friend to help me calling the aunty and negotiate in the Chinese language so that it would be easier to negotiate with the aunty, but so far my friend still hasn't called the aunty because my friend might be very busy.


Third (additional case):
This thing happened around 3-5 years ago. My friend from Miri was interested to buy a used MacBook Pro. He found an advertisement on Mudah by a seller in Kuching. When my friend texted the seller through WhatsApp, the seller replied to my friend (in proper Malay Language) claiming that the seller was currently in Klang and told my friend to bank-in the money to the seller so that the seller can post the MacBook to Miri all the way from Klang.

My friend felt suspicious about this. Since I live in Shah Alam, my friend asked me to help him text the seller and pretend that I would like to purchase the MacBook. When I texted the seller and told the seller that I would like to inspect the MacBook before purchasing because I live in Shah Alam, the seller replied claiming that the seller was in Kuching ad told me to bank-in the money into the seller's account so that the seller can post the Macbook to me in Shah Alam all the way from Kuching. My friend and I report about the suspicious seller to Mudah immediately after that.