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post Sep 29 2007, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(lee831219 @ Sep 29 2007, 04:54 PM)
u sponsor me den i try lo den i snap picture gv u promote lo.... deal...  whistling.gif
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cis... 30bucks also need people sponsor meh??...

QUOTE(young_soul @ Sep 29 2007, 05:40 PM)
catacomb...mind explaining "inlet of ur cai hose towards rushing air" a little better? Dun quite understand...
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means the inlet of ur hose where u fix at ur bumper.... face the hose forward so rushing air can enter through the hole.... thats for when u using open-pod filter...

if u using drop-in filter where ur cai hose connected directly to ur airbox, jz hang ur cai hose at the side inside ur bumper without the front/mouth facing the rushing air....

understand??...
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post Sep 29 2007, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(Killerz622 @ Sep 29 2007, 05:54 PM)
So does that mean that if i using drop-in filter i just make it not facing directly to the front?
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yeap.... thats jz a suggestion la... some "wiseman" suggested to me... i havent try because i not using drop-in filter with airbox adi....

QUOTE(young_soul @ Sep 29 2007, 08:53 PM)
lee's post just confused me again...no offence. I'm assuming intlet means the beginning of the tube rite? Anyway basically my CAI hose cannot be fitted at the fog light area where I initially wanted it to be...I have to fit it somewhere behind the bumper where the cold air still flows, but at a somewhat 'lower speed' is it? Any recommendation on where to fit the CAI inlet then?
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haha... lee got it partially correct... for cai hose sealed to ur airbox setup, the air inlet part (where u put the air funnel) doesnt necessary to face the front... jz hang it inside ur bumper so rushing air wont cancel out the intake manifold pressure....

as for those using open-pod (like the 2nd pic i posted), the inlet of ur cai hose must face the front so rushing air from outside can feed to ur filter.....


understand mou??...
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post Sep 30 2007, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(lee831219 @ Sep 29 2007, 09:03 PM)
if u cant put it at frog lamp there, mayb u can put it at beside frog lamp there. the red circle there.

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wah... retractable side mirrors... rclxms.gif

QUOTE(young_soul @ Sep 30 2007, 12:38 AM)
hmm...good point. So how to prevent this?
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cucuk some holes in ur cai hose somewhere near/in the fender area.... so if the bottom part blocked by water, air can bypass thru the vents in the cai hose inside ur fender...... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 30 2007, 02:52 AM

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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Sep 30 2007, 01:53 AM)
That place actually a cassette holder izzit? U taken it out?
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do like this also can.... khguan style...

http://khguan.fotopic.net/c781324.html

QUOTE(lee831219 @ Sep 30 2007, 01:59 AM)
wat material u using??
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use plexiglass or perspeks also nice ma....
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post Sep 30 2007, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(young_soul @ Sep 30 2007, 03:33 AM)
haha, nice DIY
cucuk holes sweat.gif
like that the CAI not as effective ady...
fender...is bumper isit?
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i ask u cucuk holes at the fender area mah... that area already away from heat source.... plus, a few small holes wont affect the flow of cooler air from the front much... it is jz used to bypass some air jz incase u said the front being blocked/clogged by flood water...
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post Sep 30 2007, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Vervain @ Sep 30 2007, 01:18 PM)
guys wanna ask here. 4g93p hybrid means 4g93 mivec?
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depends on what hybrid u mean lor... yes, mivec only comes in 4g92 mivec dohc... those 4g93 mivec is rojak 4g93 block with 4g92 mivec head.... some even hybrid 4g92 mivec block with 4g91 head.... or rojak 4g91 head with 4g93 block with mivec high compression pistons.... many things can interchange between 4g9x family engines la...
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post Sep 30 2007, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Sep 30 2007, 09:14 PM)
guys, i thought the original airbox already consider CAI?
how do u guys do CAI? from the airbox hole pull a hose to front bumper?
besides, is there anyway not to show the hose n yet, located in front of the bumper?
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http://khguan.fotopic.net/c437153.html
http://khguan.fotopic.net/c1246369.html
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post Oct 1 2007, 02:53 AM

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QUOTE(young_soul @ Sep 30 2007, 04:11 PM)
got any pics of this? never seen before holes at the fender area...the part to cucuk I mean.
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somewhere here... this pic is for iswara lah... same application.... u poke holes to ur cai hose in the fender area after the engine bay area....

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QUOTE(lee831219 @ Oct 1 2007, 01:18 AM)
cat, currently good business also hor... recently CAI is the hot topic of discuss in here....
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discuss only but no one buying... apa guna... doh.gif doh.gif
u help me promote more la... i belanja u teh ais.... ok... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 1 2007, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(binary @ Oct 1 2007, 08:44 AM)
Guys, can u please tell me about micro compressor? is it really useful to install this device?
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buying it is like throwing money into sea water.... so, better straight throw money to me...

QUOTE(young_soul @ Oct 1 2007, 09:04 AM)
catacombs, where's the hole ar? Cannot see leh tongue.gif
micro compressor? one of those air compressor?
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i also no worry about flood water... so didnt poke holes lah....
dunno why wanna worry about flood water.... got flood dun drive through la... doh.gif

QUOTE(lee831219 @ Oct 1 2007, 09:34 AM)
u mean the drop in box there is it?
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apa lu cakap??... mana ada drop-in airbox... jz cucuk some holes at the hose lar... unsure.gif unsure.gif

but if u wanna drill holes at ur oem airbox also can... i've seen my friend's mech did this to his wira airbox... for better airflow....

QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Oct 1 2007, 11:25 AM)
u saw the micro compressor in garage sale leh brows.gif
worst case scenario, u ned to overhaul ur brake kit coz maybe the piston jam.. check if there is any oil leak
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might be allignment problem also...
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post Oct 1 2007, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(young_soul @ Oct 1 2007, 01:25 PM)
aiyo, you give advise in the first place mar...just show where the hole is la...
you know there are some floods you got no choice but to go through it rite?
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my choice is to stop there or u-turn.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 1 2007, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(Arkaine @ Oct 1 2007, 02:53 PM)
The other alternative route to avoid flood. Or perhaps make a moveable CAI intake.. if got flood, change the intake at higher place for temporarily use. Maybe behind the center grill. then when already reach high ground, change back to original place.
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yalor... dun worry la... if flood, drive slowly through the water lo.. didnt ask u jetski across the flood water mah.... if drive slowly also got water enter, means the water level vr high oledi.... if so high adi, without cai hose, ur engine also will die la....

QUOTE(kazami13 @ Oct 1 2007, 04:30 PM)
some ppl drill hole at the air filter box
but then there is possibility for the filter to suck in hot air
use CAI hose directly from take the air from outside is better
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yeap... drill holes at the airbox will suck hot air from engine bay... thus, try to drill holes away from the direction of the heat source... this method is not perfect as different hole size and different position can affect the performance....
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post Oct 2 2007, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Oct 2 2007, 03:49 PM)
the person drilling holes on my bumper now trying to fit catacomb's CAI hose. 1 more guess~
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post Oct 3 2007, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(jssim @ Oct 2 2007, 08:12 PM)
u r famous in pro-woc......when gonna buy a wira???
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wira tak mau la... everyone also wira... i dun like to follow... my next car gonna either be a sensible car or FR drift spec... tongue.gif

QUOTE(Killerz622 @ Oct 2 2007, 09:27 PM)
I read from somewhere that spacer increase the underhood temperature
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QUOTE(Killerz622 @ Oct 2 2007, 10:19 PM)
This i not sure...I thought adding spacer will cool down the engine?
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QUOTE(lee831219 @ Oct 2 2007, 10:26 PM)
den lets all driver discuss about it.... i try ask ask the sifo sifo in my team also....  biggrin.gif
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the main purpose modded or transplanted engine cars add spacer to lift up the hood because the GSR/EVO timing belt cover hits the hood.... other purpose is for better engine bay cooling and cosmetic....

QUOTE(GKWong @ Oct 2 2007, 11:48 PM)
so weird.... i thought the spacer will let air goes in straight from the front the flow out with hot air. like my pic here...

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the think i can explain from the honda link is when there is no bonnet spacer, the air from front can go in then rush through the engine area long enough all without flowing out directly at the space there. So the temp is much lower
i think it depends on car lor, cause all car the air also flow differently mah.  rolleyes.gif
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noler.... rushing air flow on top of the hood... the faster air flows, the less pressure it has... thus, the air rushing on top of the hood causes low pressure... this low pressure sucks hot air out of the engine bay through the vents jacked up by spacers....

thats why u see certain aftermarket hood has reverse scoop at the radiator area to suck hot air out of the engine bay...

understand??..
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post Oct 3 2007, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(GKWong @ Oct 3 2007, 12:15 AM)
buy BMW lar! stock also can drift like satay...hahaha

btw....the text below the pic i am explaining about the link provided by ermm....some1 else earlier...haha
and yes! u are explaining what i am trying to explain from the picture.  smile.gif
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BMW dun like... dun like continental... prefer JDM....

QUOTE(lee831219 @ Oct 3 2007, 12:15 AM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  good explanation....  notworthy.gif
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post Oct 3 2007, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(GKWong @ Oct 3 2007, 12:19 AM)
JDM cheaper lor.....
most street racer also from JDM...
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i dun wan be street racer... i wanna be driftster....
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post Oct 3 2007, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(GKWong @ Oct 3 2007, 12:29 AM)
then lets go sepang drift!! lol  biggrin.gif
where else can drift safely har?
my place there only got a place big enough for me to do 180degree turn... sad.gif
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post Oct 3 2007, 02:21 AM

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QUOTE(jssim @ Oct 3 2007, 12:42 AM)
nvm....sell more cai...earn more $$...u will get 1 drift car also...hahaha thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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sell cai until can buy a car.... u think i selling this worldwide meh??.... small business only... cant even support my petrol money for a month... doh.gif
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post Oct 3 2007, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Oct 3 2007, 11:56 AM)
just wondering if adding spacer will be good....coz the heat will dissipate towards the windscreen heating it even more. Its ok for afternoon when the weather is naturally hot. But if nighttime...inside cool...outside hot...man, scared it crack all of a sudden when driving.
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worry about ur windscreen getting foggy better la... usually windscreen not easy to crack.... flex.gif
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post Oct 3 2007, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Oct 3 2007, 01:13 PM)
i think this explain why the temp reading is increased.. my theory, dont flame me  sweat.gif  blush.gif
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hope u all understand.. look at the thermometer
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yeap... the wind flowing at the bottom do aid in cooling ur engine bay... same principle as the hood spacer thing....

QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Oct 3 2007, 01:48 PM)
if I'm not mistaken, the thermometer controls the engine cooling system isn't it? The thermometer broke on my parent's Saga...and the mechanic say it won't survive outstation trip coz the engine won't know when to turn off the cooling when necessary...might freeze some parts...or was it overheat them unsure.gif
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if thermostat damaged, ur water/coolant will flow continuously from engine to radiator and back to engine again... means more effective cooling... at long distance remain 90-100kmh, yes ur engine might be too cold (not till freezing point la, engine still running mah, still producing heat)... but if u blast ur car 140-150kmh, i think will be ok.....
another disadvantage of faulty/removed theormostat is hard to start in the morning.... this is because coolant start flowing and cooling off ur engine before it starts to warm up...

if u want better cooling but yet wont compensate so much of the driveability mentioned above, use lower temp thermostat....
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post Oct 3 2007, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Oct 3 2007, 02:24 PM)
does that means the flow of the coolant of a car is variable? something like processor where ur proc speed is variable depending on ur load?
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variable as in move or dont move only... u cannot control the fluid speed.... when thermostat opens, the coolant moves from engine to radiator n back to engine again... when the temperature drops to a certain level, thermostat closes and coolant stays wherever it is.... thus, coolant/water temperature remains almost at constant level....
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