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Rinth
post Sep 17 2020, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(OceanMonster @ Sep 17 2020, 03:50 PM)
the consent form with the title of 'consent by the purchaser for alteration and revision of the approved building plan, the approved share unit formula, and the approved schedule of parcel project' means we agree to let them change the maintenance fees, layout, structure of the building, facade as and when they want to half way through the construction.

Developer side said this is for 'future convenience' where they dont want to bother buyer and they only change common area. but i argued with them how can they so sure about the changes is only limited to common area when you dont give any specifics or details about the changes in the consent form.

its like you order meal A, but end up in meal B. and you cannot claim any legal action against them if you given your consent to them.
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When did you know need to sign all these docs? is during your signing of SPA or this is what developer SA told you when you put booking fee? Because AFAIK i remember i din saw all these docs during SPA signing, the lawyer indeed got provides signing for the transfer of RSKU consent form.
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QUOTE(OceanMonster @ Sep 17 2020 @ 03:50 PM)
the consent form with the title of 'consent by the purchaser for alteration and revision of the approved building plan, the approved share unit formula, and the approved schedule of parcel project' means we agree to let them change the maintenance fees, layout, structure of the building, facade as and when they want to half way through the construction.

Developer side said this is for 'future convenience' where they dont want to bother buyer and they only change common area. but i argued with them how can they so sure about the changes is only limited to common area when you dont give any specifics or details about the changes in the consent form.

its like you order meal A, but end up in meal B. and you cannot claim any legal action against them if you given your consent to them.


Maybe this could be one of the reasons why Miyu was temporarily(?) removed from their list of projects.

QUOTE(mackioes @ Sep 2 2020, 10:25 PM)
it looks like the previous architects TT Group removed Miyu from their list of projects. I wonder why. Also Miyu added more information in their website - looks like they've open the sales to public.
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post Sep 21 2020, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(OceanMonster @ Sep 17 2020, 03:50 PM)
the consent form with the title of 'consent by the purchaser for alteration and revision of the approved building plan, the approved share unit formula, and the approved schedule of parcel project' means we agree to let them change the maintenance fees, layout, structure of the building, facade as and when they want to half way through the construction.

Developer side said this is for 'future convenience' where they dont want to bother buyer and they only change common area. but i argued with them how can they so sure about the changes is only limited to common area when you dont give any specifics or details about the changes in the consent form.

its like you order meal A, but end up in meal B. and you cannot claim any legal action against them if you given your consent to them.
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This is quite dodgy - the consent might give them the right to change even your unit layout without pre-empting you. That was the pitfall in my last (near)-purchase, developer asking for my consent to change my unit layout. Good thing was that the proposed change was clearly shown and I immediately retracted my booking.

I think it is only fair that all the consent letters state very clearly and exhaustively what can be changed and not by the developer, else I would think twice to part with my money and sign the SPA.
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post Sep 21 2020, 06:45 PM

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post Sep 25 2020, 11:24 AM

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Potential revival of highway?

https://www.thestar.com.my/metro/metro-news...highway-project

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ises-state-rep/
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post Sep 25 2020, 07:25 PM

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any sa? p,m pls
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post Sep 27 2020, 07:45 AM

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QUOTE(jay_percival @ Sep 21 2020, 06:16 PM)
This is quite dodgy - the consent might give them the right to change even your unit layout without pre-empting you. That was the pitfall in my last (near)-purchase, developer asking for my consent to change my unit layout. Good thing was that the proposed change was clearly shown and I immediately retracted my booking.

I think it is only fair that all the consent letters state very clearly and exhaustively what can be changed and not by the developer, else I would think twice to part with my money and sign the SPA.
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Yup, I also retracted my booking. But developer eventually back down and agree not to sign the consent form.
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post Sep 27 2020, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(OceanMonster @ Sep 27 2020, 07:45 AM)
Yup, I also retracted my booking. But developer eventually back down and agree not to sign the consent form.
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Did u stopped by the sales gallery and check on the latest sales chart? like more people retracting?

I am still in midst of processing the loan so I havent dropped by there yet again.

somehow this consent form issue and the possible revival of PJD link are casting doubts on my purchase.
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post Sep 27 2020, 05:17 PM

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Hi all, has anyone signed the Offer Letter or SPA already? Also, is there any WhatsApp/telegram group chat for this project?
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post Sep 27 2020, 11:40 PM

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is this already sold out?

if not , any agents contact I can get?
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post Sep 28 2020, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(OceanMonster @ Sep 27 2020, 07:45 AM)
Yup, I also retracted my booking. But developer eventually back down and agree not to sign the consent form.
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Hi, when I booked my unit, the Tropicana Miyu own salesperson told me that the consent form is actually meant for them to remove the RSKU units as they are changing the layout for the 8th to 11th floor from the original RSKU units to possibly SOHO units. And if we dont sign this form they will not be able to remove the RSKU units.

Hm not sure why they are telling two different stories. Casting doubts on our purchase.

They did not mention about the highway too. My last visit to the sales gallery was last Tuesday.

Appreciate if anyone could help shed some lights on whether I should proceed
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post Sep 28 2020, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(daph.csh123 @ Sep 28 2020, 11:38 AM)
Hi, when I booked my unit, the Tropicana Miyu own salesperson told me that the consent form is actually meant for them to remove the RSKU units as they are changing the layout for the 8th to 11th floor from the original RSKU units to possibly SOHO units. And if we dont sign this form they will not be able to remove the RSKU units.

Hm not sure why they are telling two different stories. Casting doubts on our purchase.

They did not mention about the highway too. My last visit to the sales gallery was last Tuesday.

Appreciate if anyone could help shed some lights on whether I should proceed
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If they show you specific consent form for RSKU removal (mention in the consent form clearly), then it is ok. if you feel convinced then you can sign. But if developer only show you a general consent form, which didnt mention about anything at all. This has to be careful.

In any case, i am not convinced. I think they should have plan it nicely before launching. It is very bad impression upon signing SPA, where the developer still changing plan and changing layout.
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post Sep 29 2020, 10:08 AM

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First of all, signing the legal documentations is with the developer panel lawyers. As for as I know, there are 4 panel lawyer with the developer.

Upon signing the legal documentations, i.e. SPA, consent letters (1. Related to RSKU, and 2. It is about the revised plan), etc. During the signing these documentations, the lawyer explained each documentation and it is the buyer right to ask question and clarify with the lawyer. Alternatively, the buyer can engage their own lawyer to review those documentations but at own costs.

For the RSKU, my SA told me the developer had submitted their plan to the authority on this issue, and the authority feedback is positive.

About the new highway (PJD link) or fka as KIDEX, it is beyond our control except the right to protest against this development. Worst case scenario would be those lower floor unit to be affected.

Anything can happen within 48 months.

The above just my personal view.

QUOTE(daph.csh123 @ Sep 28 2020, 11:38 AM)
Hi, when I booked my unit, the Tropicana Miyu own salesperson told me that the consent form is actually meant for them to remove the RSKU units as they are changing the layout for the 8th to 11th floor from the original RSKU units to possibly SOHO units. And if we dont sign this form they will not be able to remove the RSKU units.

Hm not sure why they are telling two different stories. Casting doubts on our purchase.

They did not mention about the highway too. My last visit to the sales gallery was last Tuesday.

Appreciate if anyone could help shed some lights on whether I should proceed
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post Sep 29 2020, 10:43 AM

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Hi, anyone can shed the light on RSKU unit? Will it be remove? Who is the main con for this project?
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post Sep 29 2020, 02:01 PM

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https://pictr.com/images/2020/09/29/7VgA0n.md.jpg

Where is Miyu going to be in this image?
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post Sep 29 2020, 03:08 PM

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There are 2 different forms - (1) one to specifically allow the developer to allocate the RSKU OUT of the project & (2) another which is the general consent to change the building layout, plan, etc.

Agreed - It is OK to sign the first form but suggest not to sign the second form
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post Sep 29 2020, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(Sunday3313 @ Sep 29 2020, 03:08 PM)
There are 2 different forms - (1) one to specifically allow the developer to allocate the RSKU OUT of the project & (2) another which is the general consent to change the building layout, plan, etc.

Agreed - It is OK to sign the first form but suggest not to sign the second form
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IIRC the 2nd form that you mentioned is changes on the RSKU units only, which is floor 8-11. Other floor which are not RSKU type will not be affected.


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post Sep 29 2020, 04:38 PM

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post Sep 29 2020, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(Sunday3313 @ Sep 29 2020, 02:01 PM)
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Around the drawn circles.

Note that this is a rather old low-reso photo - even Intan hasn't been built then.

In short, if PJD is approved (I sure hope not), Miyu will be right next to it.

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