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zacky chan
post Jul 7 2019, 11:37 AM

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wah....rumah baru....congrats... rclxms.gif
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post Jul 8 2019, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jul 8 2019, 01:41 AM)
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at least he got good point there.

hm....agree to much of the points he stated but saying and doing is different things...its easy to say but hard to do...even before i have heard some aide or assistant(someone involve with politician) of some politician involve with mindef acknowledge the problem with our procurement especially the things we choose instead what armed force need and want, but the deal go through. some do try and bring toward meeting but at the end of the day, its up to 'you know who'.

also...good luck trying to get the citizen to know much about defense. now its up to politician to get things done...armed force have BTDM,airtimes,FB page and other media which good job so far. hope the politician will get their act together and quote/share/support everything these media done to show support and make people aware what we have here...

the defense white paper(KPP) and the deal for LCA,MPA and MALE UAV will be the benchmark of how far can the new govt able to walk the talk. it will be interesting if the MPA and UAV will get decent enough money to get what the service want laugh.gif


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post Jul 8 2019, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jul 8 2019, 02:44 PM)
Sorry lah, article panjang2 tapi isi takda pastu selit masuk politik
in the end tulis salah previous governmnet

dengan white paper ni pun banyak highlight apa yang orang nak dengan ATM bukan apa yang ATM mahu jugak chin tong weh. White paper ni pada aku buang masa je dah ada doktrin Hanruh tu

NBOS bukan a total lost pun, it is actually promoted better relation between government agencies

cuba tengok banjir 2012 and 2013, even before MKN orders are up the NBOS formula is working

ohh I forget, you have to actually be there to see this and not sitting somewhere just make noise

KLIA Para formula was inducted in NBOS not as just show off force but as a consideration after a high profile heist in KLIA not too long before it was introduce. Plus this show off force is actually done by many country after 11 september.

Hais ingatkan ok dia sbg DMOD, rupanya kulit aja isi tarak, kosong, yilek
but still better then the MOD.. haha
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coming from the political party he is, its good enough what he write..also when compare to mat sabu,at least LCT is good laugh.gif

any good news you heard about our KPP???its silent....and i dont like when the h000haaa govt that we have silent on it...no teaser or anything even from malaysiandefence blog
zacky chan
post Jul 8 2019, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jul 8 2019, 04:04 PM)
no not yet, hopefully soon
pening skerang nih

macam headless chicken pun ada
aiyaiyai...
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pening pasal apa tu??mai habaq kat cek laugh.gif

pasal LCA ke?
zacky chan
post Jul 11 2019, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(lucifer_666 @ Jul 11 2019, 01:09 AM)
new leak???the media will have fun on this. laugh.gif
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post Jul 12 2019, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 12 2019, 01:08 PM)


"If we acquire four units of motherships we will be able to effectively manage operations on the East Coast of Peninsular Malaysia, Sabah and Sarawak at the same time. If the ship is in excess of 100 nautical miles from the coast, surveillance can be performed optimally.

"The larger capacity of a mothership, including six boats onboard allows patrols to reach a 40 nautical mile radius and that is quite wide.

"This 110-meter-long vessel can also be equipped with an unmanned aircraft (UAV) to further enhance intelligence and surveillance from the air," he said when met at his office here yesterday.

Zulkifili said he also hoped to add two units of Maritime Surveillance Aircraft (MSA) capable of flying up to 12 hours to strengthen the agency's operations.


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that is a very tall order...especially the 4 mother ship...although another MSA is logic tho...

let see how this goes... laugh.gif
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post Jul 12 2019, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jul 12 2019, 03:27 PM)
nak camping tepi kapal CCG kot
rilek je parking kat Pattinggi Ali 2 bulan tak payah resup
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idea bagus tu...tapi entah la...tak dengar lagi pasal govt ni nak beli barang untuk security force setakat ni...tu sebab rasa macam susah nak dapat...paling2 pun bawak meeting....harap2 ada la rezeki untuk MMEA ni...bawah kementerian baru mungkin ada harapan kot...

QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 12 2019, 03:33 PM)
The mothership concept itself is not that advanced thing to develop and build. Just a resupply ship/platform for the patrolling vessels to keep them out to sea longer without the need to return to port so often.
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i'm concerning about the budget...the safest way for budget and getting the ship is maybe follow the bunga mas 5 ship and KA Tun Azizan...also its better for more budget for the next batch of MMEA NGPC and OPV.i like that 2 type ship since its good on cost and capability.
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post Jul 13 2019, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jul 12 2019, 06:22 PM)
sebenarnya duduk bawah KDN ni lagi sakit pasal KDN got more mouth to feed
tu pasal MMEA dulu sengaja diletakan dibawah JPM, supaya the first 20 years depa boleh cukup dana untuk operate esp dalam pembelian aset

dalam Malaysia APMM and PM has the most operation area esp small boats, the boat operation even exceed the limit of some of the boat and maintenance need to be done more then regular

esp Sarawak and Sabah, dunno why the operation of small fast boat is high

then Malacca straits
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entah la bro....ada yang kata,bawah KDN ni patut lagi senang nak bajet sebab KDM selalu uruskan bajet operasi macam polis...jadi patut senang...tapi tu sembang politician...tak tau lagi ape jadi lepas ni...harap lagi baik la

pernah tengok dkt berita dulu bot polis ni semua tempat die redah...ape boleh buat...tugas kena dijalankan..tak buat nanti jadi macam2 lagi...

QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 12 2019, 03:47 PM)
MMEA doesn't really require high grade military-spec equipment, so it should be within the means of local shipyards to build these kinds of ships. The design however can be either local or foreign, should not be too much or costly to develop and build, unlike TLDM ships.

Back in LIMA 19, some local groups have already put forward their designs for MMEA motherships.
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you mean this ship??look like this will be MMEA want laugh.gif
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It allows the MPMS to deploy up to five CJ66 Fast Interceptor Crafts and two smaller RHIBs. The CJ66 FIC features a 12 meters-long composite hull and an endurance of 250 nm. It is powered by three Mercury Verado engines (350 hp), allowing a maximum speed of 60 knots.

But the most important structure remains the helipad mounted above the ship’s bow. According to the Muhibbah drawing, the landing deck will be strengthened enough to receive the MMEA AW 139 medium-sized helicopter.

The MPMS can transport substantial amount of fuel, water and provisions to accommodate 154 sailors, helicopters crews and supporting troops during 30 days.
https://www.navalnews.com/event-news/lima-2...n-ship-project/
zacky chan
post Jul 13 2019, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jul 13 2019, 03:06 PM)


Nak kapal besar tu jangan harap la
cerita pasal OPV pun tengah senyap je ni.

and I havent see the Bombadier flying for awhile now

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OPV MMEA yang JV THHE dan destini tu ke?ada ape2 cerita ke??effect tabung haji pun kene dkt THHE atau govt lambat bayar lagi laugh.gif
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post Jul 13 2019, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jul 13 2019, 06:25 PM)

jadi kita tunggu bersama-sama
dan tepuk ramai-ramai

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haih.... mega_shok.gif
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post Jul 15 2019, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 15 2019, 08:33 AM)
Vietnamese fishermen ram KM Pekan trying to escape arrest, MMEA Dir-Gen authorizes use of force if necessary


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time to shoot first ask question later??? laugh.gif


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post Jul 15 2019, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(miuk @ Jul 15 2019, 09:04 AM)
Didnt see this posted here, but this made the news a few days ago in the US....

All the memes now roasting the other branches vs the coasties

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saw this on reddit when its hot...nobody open at kopitiam??...

also why roast other branches tho??
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post Jul 15 2019, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Jul 15 2019, 12:07 PM)
i believe no country should ever do so.. as part of asean, it is best to do it in a peaceful manner... even towing the vessel with arrest is not as bad as shooting or sinking vessels...
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shoot here does not mean shot at the boat...before this,some of our enforcement shoot a warning shot when found stubborn fisherman in our territories. its a good and stern measure.


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post Jul 16 2019, 10:10 PM

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Tiga jam potong pukat
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KUALA LUMPUR: Penyelam Agensi Penguatkuasaan Maritim Malaysia (APMM) mengambil masa tiga jam bagi membuang tali dan pukat yang dilemparkan nelayan Vietnam ketika cubaan meloloskan diri dari penguat kuasa kira-kira 97 batu nautika dari Kuala Tok Bali, Kelantan, Selasa lalu.

Pegawai Memerintah KM Pekan Kapten Maritim Che Engku Suhaimi Che Engku Daik berkata, empat kru penyelam APMM dikerahkan bagi memotong tali dan pukat yang tersangkut pada kipas KM Pekan milik agensi itu.

“KM Pekan masih boleh bergerak cuma mengalami sedikit gegaran selepas tali dan pukat dibuang nelayan Vietnam tersangkut pada kipas.

“Sehubungan itu, empat penyelam diturunkan ke laut bermula jam 7 pagi hingga 10 pagi sehari selepas kejadian (Rabu).

“Selepas pukat dan tali sepanjang antara 50 hingga 200 meter dan ketebalan 2 inci (5cm) hingga 4 inci (10cm) berjaya dipotong, keadaan KM Pekan kembali normal,” katanya.
https://www.hmetro.com.my/utama/2019/07/475...fYVtHBPxMXbsBoU
time for even more stern action???what your opinion bro LTZ
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post Jul 16 2019, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jul 16 2019, 11:11 PM)
We could do the stern action, as directed by the politician. But.... those politicians should understand our capabilities too. They cannot simply give order but they dont actually know that we are not that capable in term of assets & manpower  (we are a maritime nation, but our enforcement agencies are not geared towards that capability)
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haih.... really hope we will get good news on contract of new ship for MMEA or navy...
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post Jul 17 2019, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 17 2019, 09:32 AM)
None right now though, what stuff we are hearing about right now is probably what the Navy and MMEA will have for the next 5-8 years. The Navy will be busy with the remaining  LCS and LMS while MMEA can look forward to the 3 Damen OPVs and the remaining 3 NGPCs.

Beyond that probably the Navy will be looking at the MRSS and the MMEA will be planning for their 'mothership' program.

The MMEA is desperately short of funding though right now. They are expecting MMEA to be the country's peacetime navy but are allocated only a fraction of the funds of the actual navy.
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yup...been reading at marhalim blog...trying to be positive here...who know if it got funded... laugh.gif


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post Jul 17 2019, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(Protoculture @ Jul 17 2019, 10:42 AM)
Kadang aku pelik politician ngan MMEA ni. Nak 4 motherships ... padahal solution depan mata. BM5 dan BM6 RMN auxiliary ships kan ex- MISC commerce vessels.

Dok pening2 pikir baik beli ex commerce vessels from MISC fleet dan buat cosmetic sikit tup tap jadi Coast Guard mothership. Segala macam dapat jimat.
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sebab nak jimat la dorang selalu dapat kapal ex RMN ...lpas tu govt expect MMEA jadi macam navy dengan aset yang tua.

tak salah mereka minta macam ni. sebab mereka rajin mintak macam ni la mereka dapat NGPC dan OPV...kalo tak dapat kedah class ...

tambah dengan govt baru ni yang pompang sembang kencang nak jaga perairan negara, mane la tau dapat 'mothership' tu ke....kalo govt berani kata takde duit,baru la pegi plan B
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post Jul 17 2019, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(Protoculture @ Jul 17 2019, 11:17 AM)
Aku tak cakap MMEA mintak sedekah kat RMN. Sebab recurring problem dapat aset lama hibah RMN ni alkisah bab maintenance nightmare.

Aku cadangkan cara RMN punya solution pasal kekurangan hull untuk maintain ops. Sebabtu RMN guna approach macam BM 5 & BM 6. Pakai commercial vessels ex MISC.

Cer MMEA guna cara tu. Dapat ex-MISC ships dalam tempoh 6 bln - 1 tahun dah boleh operational. Tenggek sebijik kat Beting Patinggi Ali lepas tu tenggek sebijik kat Selat Melaka dan tenggek sebijik kat perairan Terengganu sebagai mobile forward base dan rotate duty roster. Kan solve banyak problem.
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aku tak cakap pun tak boleh pakai idea macam navy tu...

MMEA trying their luck since the new govt keep saying they want to give our serviceman what they need instead what govt want...its a good gamble...if they win,they got new ship with good capabilities and can be use in high tempo. if they lose, they also got ship which still can be use to complete the task at hand.
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post Jul 18 2019, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 18 2019, 10:29 AM)
Home minister: We will buy additional assets for the MMEA only if there is a special need

The Ministry of Home Affairs has informed the government is willing to increase the assets and ships of the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) only if there is a special need to combat the issue of invasion of foreign fishermen.

Its minister Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin said his agency found that the mobilization of assets and ships by other enforcement and security agencies was seen to be effective enough to address the issue of the intrusion in the meantime.

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MMEA wont ask if it got no need for it...at the end, its the same as always...

and.........if 'special need' come later on what is the alternative???hope next batch of NGPC will announce soon....then the 'special need' come, we got at least next batch vessel to help alleviate the situation...


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post Jul 18 2019, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Strike @ Jul 18 2019, 12:38 PM)
mangkuk ph

kapal dan boat tak cukup bodo..

lagi seronok penjilat prc /k dengar berita ni..
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too early to tell...better wait the RMK or next budget...still got hope...

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