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empire23
post Oct 14 2019, 02:37 PM

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The KF-X looks somewhat interesting but I do note the lack of DSIs.

I wonder why though.
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post Oct 30 2019, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Oct 30 2019, 01:00 PM)
actually what happen at german???saw some poster on reddit before about this and most user bash german govt about it...apparently they fuck up somehow...and its become streak for them now...
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Maybe CG HAENEL will win lorh.
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post Oct 30 2019, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Oct 30 2019, 01:28 PM)
dont know la bro....i only follow if got news only...dont follow closely about this
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CG Haenel is the only major competitor for the bid aside from H&K, but as much as I love using Haenel rifles personally, I have my doubts they have sufficient production capacity to fulfill such a major contract. Even small name companies like B&T have more capacity than they do.
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post Nov 1 2019, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(miuk @ Nov 1 2019, 11:15 AM)
Interesting indeed, have not heard of CG Haenel until now. B&T does get some press due to their suppressors and their "pistols" thats slowly coming into the US.
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Haenel seem to have pricing at a level that can be considered fairly sane.

I originally wanted a B&T APR308 but the import cost was crazy and there was no reason the AXMC couldn't do the same job for less. Haenel make really good firearms and I've had the pleasure of some rangetime with the RS8 and J10, which were priced competitively.

But of course a large military contract entails a very large ramp up from their current quantities, and for all means and purposes, they make good stuff, but can they supply firearms for a national army?
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post Nov 1 2019, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 1 2019, 04:27 PM)
It's hard for these not-so industrialized companies. They may make good high quality and accurate weapons, but if they can't expect to produce the numbers a large national army wants an at a reasonable price, why bother joining the competition?

There are many armies that end up selecting weapons with lower capabilities as long as the company can supply them in sufficient numbers and most importantly, with an economical cost.
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I guess if they win a large contract they can go and tap into the equity market for funding either via floats or traded debt. A lot of places have done so, but it's a gamble.

It also greatly depends on what the German army has put forth as a supply timeline. They're probably betting that with the contract in hand and a long enough timeline, they can ramp up in time.

But with rapid ramp up, 2 things always suffer, QA/QC and the availability of spares. Both really critical points for a military supply contract.

Then again, my VP9 Tact's slide lock shit itself, so I'm not a fan of H&K either these days.



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